will they or won't they? we are talking about officials in the trump white house and secret service agents writing the to go under oath before the january 6th committee. a bombshell testimony from a one-time high-level aid. another potential witness being heard. virginia thomas says there is no reason for her to testify. following the latest or axis on abortion care. new lawsuits fouled block trigger laws are now in effect in the lawyers trying to block mississippi's dam and the procedure is here with us. any minute we are set to get th update from the texas governor

into the depths of dozen migrants in san antonio. the singer r kelly is suspected to be sued on federal 6 trafficking charges. i am joined by nbc news capitol hill respondent allie. also along with us is the political correspondent michael bender. the author of the book frankly, we did win this election. the inside story of how trump lost. we have a lot to get to. let's start with the new reporting. the first report on that pushback from the secret service and the testimony from cassidy. we have new pushback from mark meadows. this has developed into a he said she said on multiple fronts. they are all reporting on the secret service anonymously

pushing back for hutchinson. what the former president did to reach for the steer wheel. all because he allegedly wanted to go to capitol hill. that pushback notably not aligning with why he wanted to go to the capitol hill but pushing back on the idea that he lunged for the steering wheel for his top security official. now with mark meadows. one of his aides testified that he had asked for a pardon but that he now has his spokesperson telling me he never thought a pardon and never planned to. now some questions on the former acting chief of staff saying that he should cooperate with the committee. that is in fact stating he's open to it.

he can't testify to the conversations and things that were happening in the white house when he was the president chief of staff. it doesn't seem like they are changing that posture. at least not right now. continues to play it out and they maintained he had more privileges in fact that the current white house president biden has weighed that privilege and it is up for some debate. they say that privilege is that they need to get the information out of the white house but we should note at this point even though he might not cooperate the fact that one of his close aides was able to testify yesterday in the way that she did shows that if they want to have him and others like him, they can do without it. >> that is mark meadows. you had some new reporting on this as well especially when it comes to the secret service,

right? >> that's right. the secret service spokesperson anthony told me this morning that the service did not receive any outreach from the committee in relation to this specific story about his drive from the rally back to the white house. at least in the last 10 days. what that means is as the committee made the decision to hold this hearing as an emergency hearing, they pulled it all together on a unusually fast timeline. that one due diligence step which they could have taken according to the spokesperson for the secret service did not take. that is important because the committee has previously spoken to two key secret service officials connected to hutchinson. they spoke to robert who is the agent for trump allegedly lunging after and that armored

vehicle. he has testified and told her the whole story. we don't know the totality of those testimonies but we do know that he said there was communication as he and trump go back to the white house and there's possibility going back to the capital. that's consistent but it doesn't confirm the most interesting part. we also know that the committee has thus far been pretty forward about trying to cooperate with the most important allegation. my sense is that if he had provided testimony in the previous month and described the type of violent altercation, the committee would just help her and show off her credibility. they haven't suggested for that and they have really outstanding questions. and one question and why they

haven't asked yet. >> that's what we are waiting to find out. you are reporting on the reaction of the hearing yesterday. the former chief of staff and what he said earlier this morning on cbs. >> i've been defending the president against the charges of inciting the riot. i've seen him accused of trying to promote violence with no violence coming from him at all. yesterday when she testified that he knew there were guns on the property and that he still encourage people to go down there, that changes my mind. >> how common is that sentiment right there? >> there is a lot of people around trump who are very concerned about the political and legal ramifications for the former president after his testimony yesterday. to your question that is far

from unanimous. we have to keep in mind this is only the latest instance of a former aide or administration official standing in front of congress raising their right- hand and swearing under oath to some pretty shocking stories about donald trump but donald trump time and again has shown a gravity defying ability to escape these kind of dire predicaments. you remember after the first impeachment when the financial bonanza for his reelection campaign and was followed by some of the highest approval ratings of his entire term. a second impeachment failed as well and in the aftermath of that he had consolidated his power and remains the most powerful political figure in the republican party. there's definitely plenty of voices around trump that are shrugging their shoulders and saying nothing matters at this point. >> you spoken to some folks if

they don't even know they are at the top of the list for the controversies. i want to ask you about the january 6th committee. we know we want to hear from activist jimmy thomas. the supreme court justice clarence thomas. her lawyer today says he has not seen any reason for her to testify. what are we hearing there? >> this is interesting because she seems to be saying she was concerned about it several weeks ago. she looks forward to clearing things up in the committee of course has invited her to come in and talk to them. they are still very interested in what she might say because of the allegations that she was involved with communicating with some of these electors and communications she had with the conservative lawyer john lynch has been the focus. now lawyer saying to the committee they need better justification and a better reasoning of how speaking with thomas speaks to their legislative bottom line in the

code of how the committees are conducted and created there has to be a legislative reason for it. something cool doesn't want to go back has referenced in their statements when they don't corroborate with the committee. that strikes me. i do think as we are watching what happens with jenny thomas. we have heard multiple times the pleas from the chair of the committee and she reiterated as early as the early hours of this morning on twitter saying that she hoped she comes forward. there is some reporting out there now that they are likely to subpoena him. that's entirely possible. they could go ahead and do that. subpoenas as we know tend to bring up witnesses that are reluctant to cooperate. we also know this committee is up against the clock because they want to be able to issue their final report at some point before the midterms in the fall and the midterm

election on this committee if they are even going to be able to work past the end of the year. when we talk about jenny thomas help us understand why the committee wants to hear from her. is it about what they want to hear about jenny thomas her conversation she might've had with others? >> they are reviewing documents showing that she exchanged text messages with mark meadows in the days before january 6th where she is passing on some conspiracy theories. were waiting for the election to be overturned. she sent foreign emails from the state legislature is urging men to pursue or dissipate in the alternate electors scheme and additionally this miscommunication between her and john eastman. what's really notable though is in almost every single case they are taking very aggressive and forward leaning approaches to reaching out to witnesses and subpoena sending them.

they might be the next speaker of the house. in the case of jenny thomas, she got unusually shall we say subdued treatment from the panel. it wasn't until after months of reporting about her connection in these conversations preceding january 6th that the committee even politely asked her to come in. that is of course different from the way the panel has been training a host of other witnesses. some reporting liz has raised concern about the committee reaching out to tthe lawyer is she doesn't want to come in suggest in my view that -- >> thank you all for taking us out this hour we appreciate it. >> thank you.

in 11 states the restrictions for abortion is taking place. that took effect after the supreme court decision. we are joined now by nbc news correspondent williams. talk to us about this challenge in ohio and what are the arguments being made there? >> reporter: similar to some of the other arguments it goes into two categories. the group of lawsuits challenging the trigger band that was idling waiting to take effect from the supreme court and overturning it. the other set challenges laws that are already on the books before that. some of them dating back some 200 years that would make abortion illegal if it were overturned and ohio is one of those states. ohio is challenging a more recent law that was passed to

limit abortion to just basically six weeks after pregnancy. these lawsuits all make a similar claim. they say while the u.s. supreme court has said there is no right to abortion under the federal constitution, these lawsuits say provisions that are different in the state constitution provides greater protection. one lawsuit in ohio says that the ohio constitution provides more protection than the federal constitution does a matter of privacy, procreation, bodily autonomy and freedom of choice in health care decision- making in the lawsuit sites some court decisions in ohio are on that basis. they've gone directly to the ohio supreme court. they can do that under a provision that if you are challenging the constitutionality it can go right into the ohio supreme court we are waiting to see if the state supreme court will take that case. that challenges a lot of what we are seeing right now.

>> what are the cases we are still waiting for here? >> reporter: he had told the president back in january he intended to step down as soon as the final decisions were announced that will be tomorrow so he will formally retire as of noon tomorrow and at some point after that i will suspect they will do the swearing in for jackson it was confirmed in april so she can take his place but we are waiting for those decisions. one is on the authority of the epa to limit greenhouse gas emissions from the coal power plants and the other is the ability of the obama administration to shut down what was called the migrant protection protocol that was started under the trump administration. this is the remain in mexico policy that people are claiming they had to be sent back to mexico to wait for their asylum hearing they were not allowed to wait inside of the u.s. both of those decisions will be at the usual time, 10:00 a.m.

>> thank you so much. some breaking news. grammy winner r kelly was just sentenced on charges of racketeering and 6 charges. ron allen is outside the courtroom. what can you tell us about the sentence? >> reporter: it amounts to 30 years, which is essentially a life sentence which is what the prosecution is asking for. it was for -- they tore into r kelly and y he was opposing the sentence. he said that she talked about how those were extreme measures saying he's been a victim of childhood sexual debuts . saying that there are all these reasons but they said those

were expirations but not an excuse for his behavior. the violence and cruelty to children. calculated carefully planned over a period of 25 years. remember the charges. racketeering he had of a criminal enterprise essentially that was his own personal 6 the sexual gratification. it is an enterprise where more people took control of it. he had enablers. he talked about the engineers, drivers, managers others who were in his orbit that described leaning out to more young people in his orbit. she wondered what was going to happen to them. how could this happen? how could all these people be around him letting this happen? she talked about a leah who was of course his first victim.

a young girl who was 13 or 14 years old when the judge said he began assaulting her sexually. she was a rising star who came into his orbit and died years later in a plane crash. there was other witnesses for r kelly. she sent the judge sent you are on the top of this enterprise and talking about his victims she said you beat them. you rate them. it was an incredible litany of debuts that the judge accused r kelly of. there was sheer brutality and human suffering. you broke lives in your wake. its serial , sexual debuts. he added it all up.

the sentences will run concurrently. 10 years for this 20 years for that. by my math it's hundreds of years essentially that she was sentencing him to but it comes down to about 30 years is the bottom line. it's the maximum sentence. he still has more criminal cases had of him but today again, the judge essentially threw the book at him. sentencing him in a way that pretty much assures that r kelly will spend the rest of his life in prison. >> strong words and a strong sentence. thank you so much for helping us cover that breaking news. >> a military base in poland is boosting its presence. the governor of texas is holding a news conference for the deadliest case and human

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president biden announced today they are increasing military operations in europe. sending more troops to armenia and enhancing other deployments. making sure to meet any potential threats. russia is officially inviting sweden to join the alliance after turkey waste its objection. we are getting a new look at the moment at a russian missile striking the central part of the country. the country. the president's announcement today trying to enforce security. what more can you tell us about

the president trying to counter russia? >> reporter: it's good to be with you. the attack you just mentioned is adding urgency. leaders today saying that russia presents the most significant threat to the u.s., its allies, ukraine and president biden today saying the u.s. will step up as he pointed out it will expand its presence in the region including a permanent base in poland. more rotation in the baltics and nato itself increasing its rapid response team from 40,000 to 300,000 by next year. these are significant moves. the u.s. has already sent billions of dollars in aid to ukraine as president zelensky addressing he needs more. meets about $5 million a month.

whether the u.s. is ready to ask congress for money to give him the aid he is asking for and he said the u.s. is not going to abandon ukraine they will continue to help and they are in the process of sending previous aid that was already approved. another big headline here. turkey dropping its opposition to sweden and joining nato that's really a new show of force against the war ukraine joining its fifth month. >> the country was announcing 144 soldiers have been returned from the prisoner exchange with russ at. what we are learning about the soldiers that were left free. >> reporter: that's right. 144 prisoners is the largest amount of prisoners that have been released from russia here to the ukrainians. a huge number. 95 of them were people that were fighting as you remember

that was a very bitter fight that lasted weeks and weeks and the ukrainians eventually had to surrender from the steal plant to make sure civilians weren't further killed in that city. 43 of those 95 are from the controversial brigade. they were fighting from the very beginning is 2014 in that region but they are coming back with some very serious injuries. they are saying most of them are suffering from gunshot wounds, shrapnel wounds. many of them have linens that have been amputated. they are coming back into ukraine and will need very serious medical attention. they barely received any attention while they were kept in russian custody but for the families of these guys and is a big surprise that they got released especially the ones that were fighting at the steal plant. it's going to be a very emotional reunion for their

families here in ukraine. i interviewed the mother of one of the fighters. she was desperate about her son trying to get in contact with him to see if he was one of the ones released. she hasn't returned our messages yet. she may not be one of them but for the rest of them at least it's good news for their families but the ukrainians haven't said how many russians were given back in exchange for the ukrainian fighters there's going to be a lot more prisoners of war going on. as the fighting rages on the eastern front of the country they are taking more prisoners and there will be more deals made for them somewhere down the road. >> keep us up-to-date on the family you are keeping in touch with think you both. >> after the break how the candidates will embrace former president trump election at the ballot box. he's on the big board.

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moments ago there was an update on what has been called the worst human smuggling event ever. the tragedy that left 53 migrants dead. he wrapped up his first news conference since the tragedy. he's putting the blame on the president. >> it is the deadliest migrant smuggling incident on u.s. soul on president biden's watch. this is harsh terrain and harsh weather and because of the way the biden administration is not enforcing the immigration laws it's affecting people and enticing people to make this very dangerous track causing them to lose their lives. >> three people believed to be involved in the operation are in custody. one of them is an american citizen currently in the san antonio hospital. joining me now from eagle pass, texas is megan.

>> the trailer was abandoned. and was slow tedious and a sad process. officials have their hands full but also with the investigation. what do we know about those that are in custody right now? >> reporter: the information received was from the mexican government at a press conference this morning in mexico city. they are involved because 27 of those that died are presumed to be mexican and they know this because of the documents they carried with them. other victims do not have documents so it will be really difficult to identify an individual with no documentation. the details that were released by the mexican government included a route the truck may have taken from laredo. it had stopped by two different checkpoints. it was that one of these checkpoints that a photo was taken of the driver driving that truck. that photo shared this morning by mexican officials and that

is the same suspect who as they said is an american citizen and was taken to a hospital in san antonio after he pretended to be one of the presumed migrants inside of the cargo truck. there's two other individuals that have been apprehended. that separate. investigators have traced the address using the tax and they identified two mexican nationals that have been charged with possession of a firearm and also we've been informed they had overstayed their visas to be in the united states. meanwhile we are waiting for an official press report confirming the information we learn from mexican officials. >> thank you so much. a new look at donald trump's grip on the republican party. they had some wins and some losses for the former president. fighting off the challenge for the more moderate republican

but the secretary of state republican voters rejected gina peters instead nominating longtime local election official anderson. they are trying to fire up their base to get out and vote in november using the recent low overturning as a way to motivate voters. steve is at the capital to help us break it down. >> donald trump wasn't officially involved in this race that you see here ron hanks who loses this republican battle used donald trump's speech in washington, d.c. as part of the group that marched over to the capital he was running against the republican who said he accepted the 2020 election results and legitimacy of joe biden's victory. it's today the republican

voters chose to go with this nominee for the u.s. senator. u the democrat in november. democrats have spent really heavily this race trying to promote hank among the public voters. they wanted him to get the nomination so he could be an easier candidate to beat if he got that nomination but he's now going to face off against michael bennet the democrat and if you look at this on paper colorado is one of the states that was trending in the democratic direction in the last 10 or 15 years. he won this state by over 20 points in 2020. if this ends up being the republican they are opening it in to be the candidate who can put the state of colorado in play for republicans. that's the question that emerges. we will see how it goes over the next few months.

a republican house primary th donald trump got directly announced here it was the republican going against a republican because they go through the map dramatically. mary miller is the winner here. rodney davis both members of congress both republicans thrown into the same district. tromping. the 2020 election meanwhile davis had voted to certify the 2020 election results. yet voted to establish the independent commission. he loses that primary in illinois. that's where trump pulls up a win. one more race for january 6. there's this one in mississippi. a republican runoff in the primary. hears congressman michael. hands of winning the runoff in a blowout. he finished behind his challenger michael in the preliminary vote for the bipartisan january 6th

commission that became an issue. as i said he finished second and a lot of people thought he might be a goner. instead he spends a ton of money and brought new voters out in this runoff. not even the biggest surprise yesterday. they want a ton of attention. hears a republican that looks to be in trouble because he voted for the january 6th commission and ends up surviving convincingly in mississippi. just a reflection yesterday we are willing to see the primary season for former president trump. thank you very much. a judge is deciding the fate of abortion. one of 13 states with a trigger lawn state banning abortions and that not only allows the procedure if the mother's life is in danger or if was reported to the police. he police.

senior staff attorney at the center for reproductive rights valerie. thank you so much for joining us. i'm going to ask you to read this. help us understand what your argument is in this mississippi lawsuit. really it centers around the state constitution there, right? state constitution that's exactly right. that's after the absolutely devastating decision of the u.s. supreme court to overturn the federal protection for abortion under the u.s. constitution it no longer exists. we have turned to the mississippi constitution where a 1998 decision was brought up by the center for reproductive rights the mississippi constitution nonetheless provides independent production

for the right to abortion. that division remains good with the law and should require a court in mississippi to block the band that we challenge. >> looking ruling how confident you feel that you can stop the law there in mississippi? >> this decision remains binding. nothing the u.s. supreme court says can change how the mississippi court interprets the mississippi constitution. it's a separate and independent right. a trial court in mississippi is bound and it requires a lot of prior decisions and it would very clearly violate the right for abortion. >> help us understand if you are a woman in mississippi and you do want abortion services what are your options? what should you do? >> there is one clinic in

mississippi and it's the only clinic in the state for over a decade. mississippi has passed a restriction on abortion to wait make two separate in person trip separated by at least 24 hours. medicine to import to induce abortion which is incredibly safe. only certain physicians only. there are numerous restrictions on abortion in addition to the van we are trying to prevent from taking effect. if someone is trying to sneak in abortion in mississippi they should be in touch with the clinic and make an appointment. the clinic is seeing women. if we are unable to block the band from going into effect the clinic and provide services until july 6th.

we are doing our best to block the bands so they can tintin continue to provide services. >> the closest open clinic is about to go forward with this trigger lot is either georgia or tennessee. it's the closest. almost 200 miles away. if the judge does not rule in your favor, what is next? what is your organization going to do next? >> our immediate priority is to keep access available or to restore access in states where patches of bands are stopping it. it's a changing landscape every day. that's the chaos we said would come if the court overruled it.

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competitive combat. that that's right. not since the mpetthird comebac he is already the ultimate political survivor. he is the country's longest serving prime minister. he took office the first time when bloke bill clinton took office. he's now eyeing a third return for the prime minister's office when joe biden is there. the parliament has not yet formally voted to dissolve itself so we don't have a date yet but it's looking like it's going to be around halloween still a ways away but showing that the good party would win the most seats in parliament in that election. now that is still five months to go in the short term we are expecting a new interim prime minister. he's the countries current

foreign minister. he is a high school dropout and the son of a holocaust survivor and he went on to become of become one of israel's most popular chat show host. he is a libero and he will be taking office just weeks before president biden touches down at the airport for his first visit to israel as president. the white house factored in there would be political chaos in israel just before the president's visit. the trip is going ahead as planned and president is seen as someone who president biden can do business with. he's not somebody who's going to embarrass the president while he is here. they actually agree on the need for a solution which would be an independent palestinian state alongside the state of israel. he will be kind of a caretaker prime minister up until the election.

he won't really have much power to push his agenda for. >> something to keep an eye on. thank you so much. up next one of the most famous marines passed away at the age of 98. he was known for the bravery and service in world war ii and a medal of honor recipient. of denied. how do we feel about getting a quote to see if we can save with america's number one motorcycle insurer? should flo stop asking the same question every time? -approved! -[ altered voice ] denied! [ normal voice ] whoa.

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of world war ii america's last living medal of honor recipient from that war has passed away. his name herschel "woody" williams. he was known as one of the most famous marines in u.s. history for his extraordinary bravery in the battle of iwo jima putting himself in the line of enemy fire to clear the way for american troops to advance. he was awarded the medal of honor because of his actions on that day. herschel williams was 98 years old. joining me now is nbc news pentagon correspondent courtney kube. what more can you tell us about the life of herschel williams and the significance of his passing? >> so woody, as he was known, he was really revered among the marine corps. young men and women marines all know his name and they are

recognizing his passing today. so you mentioned that during this battle of iwo jima it was day four. marines had just raised the flag over mount sirabachi, one of the most famous moments in the history of the united states marine corps. he was there, and he was pinned down with some of his fellow marines. the japanese were in these fortified bunkers that the marines called pill boxes and they were taking machine gun fire from these pill boxes. woody's senior commanding officer looked at him and said what can we do? is there anything that you can do using your flame thrower to stop this and woody looked back at him and said i'll try. so he got a flame thrower and over the course of the next four hours he was able to take out a number of these enemy pill boxes or fortified bunkers essentially. at one point even climbing on top of one of them, sticking the flame thrower in an air vent and firing inside, stopping the japanese enemy troops who were

inside from firing on those marines. he came back to the united states. this was february 1945, several month later, president truman presented him with the medal of honor in october 1945, but up until the daily died, woody was known to tell family, friends and even journalists like us that the reason he accepted that medal and wore it was not for himself, but for the marines he left behind that day who didn't make it home including two of the marines who were providing him with suppressive fire that day who were killed, joe. >> i mean, that story is extraordinary enough, but really his life after the marine corps was extraordinary, too. quickly, tell us a little bit about that. >> that's right. he spent the better part of the next seven decades continuing to serve at the department of veterans affairs and what was his passion in life and that was with working with gold star families. he recognized it shouldn't just be about gold star mother, but the families of those killed in combat needed support.

he with his foundation provided 100 of the memorial mono u.s monuments around country and woody died at the va facilitate bears his name. >> today we salute woody williams dying at the age of 98. courtney, thank you for taking time to walk us through this important history. >> thanks, joe. that does it for me for this hour of msnbc. "deadline: white house" continues after this break. hou continues after this break acros all your clouds... we got that right? yeah, we got that. it's easier to be an innovator. so you can do more incredible things. [whistling] moderate to severe eczema so you can do more still disrupts my skin. despite treatment it disrupts my skin with itch.

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hi there, everyone. it's 4:00 in the east. the fallout of the testimony of white house aide cassidy hutchinson amounted to the stung denunciation of a president's conduct that was frankly, unprecedented in american political history is now roiling trump world, the gop and the entire political landscape as "the washington post" puts it, former president donald trump has had some bad days recently, but perhaps none worse than tuesday when former white house aide cassidy hutchinson delivered the most alarming testimony yet about his behavior during the january 6, 2021 attack on the capitol. her testimony before the house select investigation probably left the president more vul perable legally and ultimately that will be for the department of justice to decide. equally important it threatens to further weaken him polica