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welcome back to "morning
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joe" on a friday morning, this first day of july. it is 6:00 a.m. in san diego, 9:00 a.m. here on the east coast. it is a holiday weekend but busy friday morning as we talk to governors across the country to talk about abortion. two states had their ban blocked. that important nato summit for the president ended yesterday but less than 24 hours after the alliance meeting wrapped up, russia ramping up attacks on civilians in ukraine striking a residential building in odesa and killing at least 19 people amid a new report from amnesty international that declares russia committed clear war crimes in the attack on the theater in mariupol and while the january 6th committee is taking a break for the july 4th holiday, new questions who exactly is paying for the lawyers representing some of the witnesses and whether that is
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impacting their testimony. meanwhile, vice chair liz cheney is defending the committee's actions during a debate for her political life. >> we need to recognize that if we're not faithful to the constitution, if we embrace lies, if we embrace the lies of donald trump, if we tell the people of wyoming something that is not true, we will soon find ourselves without the structure and the basis and the frame work of our constitutional republic. >> and in just a few hours, president biden is scheduled to hold a virtual meeting with the democratic governors of seven states on abortion ts all seven governors attending the m t protect access to abortion in their states following the supreme court's decision to overturn roe v. wade. the white house has engaging with officials for ways to protect access to the procedure. joining us from the white house, politico reporter eugene
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daniels. good morning. good to see you. obviously, this meeting with governors that's about to take place in the building behind you is a group of governors in states where abortion rights are protected and for people seeking to protect abortion rights, the problem actually lies in other states where that right is being taken away. >> that's exactly right, willy. good to see you. this is a continuation of what the white house has been doing for months. kamala harris has been talking to different constituecy groups and clergymen and different abortion rights groups and more importantly, last week, last thursday they talked to state a.g.s about kind of what the president is going to talk to these governors about today, hoping to find a blueprint. what are the things they're doing in their state to protect the access to abortion and where are the places the federal government can help and places the federal government has more power to do so. i can't over state and everyone
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knows this well. we've seen this and talked to different groups but also, i was out last week on the day that roe was overturned and the left is looking for president biden to be swift in his action, they have said they are not happy
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with what we've seen people who want to see a woman's right to choose, a pregnant person's right to choose enshrined in law are hoping for more action. they want to see it quickly and the president is going to have this meeting today. they're going to continue on this issue but the frustration is that they haven't seen an executive doesn't
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want to be and their own investigation so they have to strike the right tone. it probably going to happen after we see the hearings conclusive which is probably going to happen in september, october, depending how much new stuff they're finding, they say they continue to get new information but i think this country does want to hear from its current president about democracy and more importantly, what are they going to do both here and in congress to make sure that something that happened on january 6th and the months preceding it doesn't happen again. >> in the meantime, the committee is taking a bit of a break. next on the agenda will former
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white house counsel pat cipilloni show up and answer the subpoena? a lot of questions for him after cassidy hutchinson's testimony. eugene daniels, great to see you. enjoy the holiday weekend. thanks. turning now to the economy heading into this fourth of july weekend. the market set to open moments from now after posting the worst first half of a year in half a century. that's because of inflation with people nationwide said to pay 17% more this year for their fourth of july barbie cues from last year. airline delays and cancellations are snarling hundreds of travelers across the country, thousands of them. "the washington post" headline says it all, welcome to summer travel, it's hell. joining us now is our friend andrew. good to see you, my friend.
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>> great to see you. >> let's talk first about the markets. the worst first half of a year for the markets since 1970. things get better from here? >> there are parallels that suggest things do get better. in fact, the idea inflation may get tamped down and that you could see the markets rise a bit from here, the question is how much will they rise to the point where people actually are flat by the end of the year? i don't think most economists expect that but as we do see inflation coming down, a bit getting tamped down a bit there is hope. having said that, you mentioned it, you know, we're going to be seeing inflation in very real terms this weekend. i think a lot of folks in washington and administration are looking to see what the polls will look like next week, in fact, as a result of the experiences that folks have going out and buying food, getting on airplanes, all that travel that you talked about the
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travel from hell and how they feel about where our economy is because they're going to feel it in a way that i'm not sure people appreciate just yet. >> so andrew, on the question of inflation, there was some numbers that came out this morning from europe. the eurozone is up to 8.6% inflation matching where the united states is right now. obviously, there's a lot of pressure on this administration to do something about it, they say there is putin's price hike. what are the hopes for people going into this 4th of july weekend that may tick down? we've seen gas prices coming down slightly. what else can we look to? >> there are signs things are going to tick down. you're also, by the way, seeing there are retailers unfortunately that actually bought too much merchandise people aren't buying. that will go on sale and push prices down for certain things. you'll see that. there is a lot more chips coming
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online. we talked about the covid restrictions in china, perhaps getting lifted or easing up should help on the manufacturing side. there are things happening and by this fall, i do think we're going to see inflation looks a little bit better. having said that, you know, interestingly, the american airlines pilots are in the middle of renegotiating their contracts that would help how much money they're getting paid. if you're a top pilot in american airlines flying a wide body plane, top captains could be being paid $425,000, a $64,000 increase. that's great for that pilot and i appreciate all pilots especially when i'm flying but those will get passed onto the consumers in the cost of travel and people need to understand those dynamics. >> nice catch there, andrew. be nice to your pilots. >> always be nice to your pilot. be -- always be nice to your pilot.
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>> before i let you go, andrew, let me ask you about this supreme court decision and the epa that came down yesterday. boom to the fossil fuel industry but the bottom line is the supreme court says the eps has limits to the restrictions it can put on power plants and what they spout up into the atmosphere. what does this mean for obviously has implications for the environment but also for the economy and business. >> well, you know, i think what it does mean is it's going to create uncertainty for a lot of companies across the country that have made various pledges around carbon emissions and the like and what they may or may not do as a result of it. it also creates a whole other level of question about disclosure by corporate america about carbon. the scc, the securities and exchange commission is pushing companies and been talking about creating requirements for companies to disclose what carbon emissions are. that would, of course, change
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the dynamic how companies approach carbon. if in fact, this ruling changes that dynamic, which is to say does the scc back off of those disclosure requirements, does that loosen the way corporations think about this, all of that is now in play in a way that it was in just a day ago. >> yeah, and obviously, this hurts the biden administration which made a big pledge and push to turn the economy greene and get rid of the fossil fuels. andrew ross, always good to see you. enjoy the weekend. >> have a great weekend, my friend. >> you, too. happy 4th. coming up next on "morning joe," the war in ukraine stretching into day 128. ukraine is facing one of the most crucial periods since the invasion began. what exactly is the path forward as russia again attacks civilian targets? retired admiral james will be here next to break it down. d ad here next to break it down
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to the war in ukraine, russia continues to assault civilian areas with rockets and missiles. the latest strike overnight hit a residential building and a recreation center near the port city of odesa killing at least 19 people and injuring 31 others. ukrainian officials say two children are among the dead. one ukrainian general said russia has more than doubled the rate of its missile strikes in the last two weeks. said many of the russian ammunitions being used in the attacks date back to the soviet era and lack accuracy resulting in high civilian casualties. the human rights organization amnesty international meanwhile says russia committed a war crime when it bombed a theater in mariupol in march. hundreds of civilians were sheltering in the theater when russia attacked it during a siege of the southern ukrainian port city that russian troops occupy.
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that strike killed at least a dozen people, likely many more. amnesty international says russia blocked the crisis response team from entering the city after that attack. russia has denied carrying out the attack where amnesty says russia did not respond to letters summarizing evidence it had gathered in seeking information about potential criminal investigations. let's bring in former nato supreme allied commander retired four-star navy admiral james stavridis. great to have you with us this morning. what's your read on these stepped up attacks, clearly from russia deeper inside to ukraine, going after civilian targets, trying to spin them as oh, the mall was actually a weapons depot. it was closed at the time. that's plainly untrue because of the dead that are still being counted in that mall. what are they doing here other than showing we can still do this to you? >> they are showing us that
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russia is a terrorist state. they are attacking civilian population centers and it's clear that it's a part of the strategy that vladimir putin has taken to terrorize the civilian population. in some dark corner of his twisted mind he must think if he scares the people of ukraine enough, they'll back down. they're not going to. this is yet another stack of lies from vladimir putin when he says that is not part of their strategy. it's endless these attacks and it needs to be addressed on kind of a separate track willy from the military operations to diplomatic operations, economic operations. we ought to have a track for addressing these war crimes, bring the indictments and bring the indictments against the generals down to the sergeants and from the generals up to vladimir putin. >> and, you know, no conscious
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about it. obviously, just about three days ago he attacks a mall and then today in odessa, he's attacking a residential building and killing children. how much of this admiral in your eyes is about what was going on west of odesa? was going on in nato in my drid and the g 7. there was a commitment to more military spending, the deployment and finland on rush -- russia's border. was he counter programming and sending a message? what do you think he was up to? >> that's definitely part of it. he needs to be able to turn to his military and say we're not losing this thing except in fact, they are. their object was to take over the entire country to put a puppet regime, president putin probably promised president xi a three or four-day war. he's got a five to six-month
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debacle on his hands and therefore putin is when he sees finland and sweden joining nato, he says the germans doubling their defense budget. he sees the unity of the west economically and continuing to impose the sanctions. he feels he's in the category of i've got to do something and all he can do is lash out against the civilian population because his forces are effectively bogged down in the center of u -- ukraine. putin has a bad hand of cards and it won't get better. >> you have a better view of the alliance than anybody in the united states. what did you make of everything you saw in the last couple days, the unity and expansion and everything else historic that we saw in madrid? >> willy, if we're allowed to have good news for once, this is it. the expansion of nato with the
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joining of finland and sweden, these are high tech, highly capable countries. that long border complicates putin's military planning immensely. these are key militaries ready to go. they operated with us and fought with us in afghanistan and libya. huge plus up when you add that to the defense budget increase going on across the alliance and unified tone and finally, willy, the issuing of a new strategic plan first time in a decade clearly lays russia at the top of the stack of threats. this is an exceptionally good week for nato and kudos to the president for pulling off the finland, sweden joining nato. >> as presidentmadrid, putin is getting the opposite of what he hoped for in terms of nato.
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admiral, wnba star brittney griner arrived this morning in a russian court for the start of her trial on drug charges. she's been in custody for four months now. many expert the believe she's all but certain to be convicted. keir simmons has details. >> reporter: in a moscow courtroom this morning, appearing for the first day of her trial, wnba super star brittney griner. grine was arrested at a russian airport in february accused of carrying vape cart takes that contained cannabis oil in her luggage. the charge large scale transportation of drugs. if convicted, she could face a decade in a russian prison and griner has to remain in custody for the entire criminal trial. griner's wife says the two-time olympic medalist is struggling and terrified. >> i told her, i said i saw a picture and honestly for a second, i thought you was insane. i want to tell you one thing, if you are losing your mind, just
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be gracious with yourself because you're human and that's okay. >> reporter: her detainment comes amid russia's on going invasion of ukraine and strained diplomatic relations with the united states. the state department saying griner is being wrongfully detained and we have no higher priority than the safety and security of u.s. citizens overseas. in june, i asked president putin's spokesman about her arrest. >> she was coming to take part in sport in russia effectively trying to build bridges through sports. it a terrible message, isn't it, that she should be arrested? >> also a terrible message to bring some forbidden essences and materials to this country. it is prosecuted by russian laws. >> reporter: the kremlin is not commenting on russian media reports it hopes to exchange griner for an armed trafficker in the u.s. denying she's effectively a hostage. >> nbc keir simmons reporting.
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it is maddening to see a bright american star in handcuffs for having some residue in her luggage and we're getting reporting from "the new york times" this morning the kremlin is sending signals to the biden white house that we'll let her go if you release this international arms dealer called the merchant of death from an american prison as if there is some equivalence in the two crimes. how does this play o, admiral brittney griner home. >> one, we have hostages that are held all around the world. we need to address all of them with equal. this particular case, willy, appears even unusually trumped up for a russia that as i said earlier is build these days on a stack lie after lie after lie and then thirdly, the point that kier made, here is a woman, a
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fine athlete going over there as he said to build bridges, participate in international sport. boy, in my view, every international athleic association ought to begin by dropping russia. some of them have. some other events are allowing the russians to participate saying oh, sport rises above politics. evidently it doesn't in mscow. she's being used as a bargaining chip. we need to step into this, lean into this and find every means to put pressure on the putin administration. >> as i said unless something changed, she could be convicted of this crime and put in prison for a decade. retired four-star navy admiral james strvridis. enjoy the fourth of july weekend. good to see you. >> you, as well. still ahead on "morning joe" a historic moment for the supreme court as judge ketanji brown jackson is officially sworn in. that moment wrapping up one of
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the most consequential terms for the court ever. trump allies might be trying to influence witness testimony in the january 6th investigation. what that means for the probe's next steps when "morning joe" returns on a friday morning. "mo returns on a friday morning. the unknown is not empty. it's a storm that crashes, and consumes, replacing thought with worry. but one thing can calm uncertainty. an answer. uncovered through exploration, teamwork, and innovation. an answer that leads to even more answers. mayo clinic. you know where to go.
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unlimited cashback match... only from discover. we have to codify roe v. wade in the law and the way to do that is make sure the congress votes to do that and if the filibuster gets in the way, it's like voting rights, it should be we provide an exception for this requiring an exception to the filibuster for this action. >> president biden speaking at the conclusion of the nato summit in madrid yesterday saying he is willing to take a big step toward protecting federal abortion rights. the president now willing to change senate rules to make an exception, make it easier for democrats to enshrine the rights into federal law. this marks a shift in his
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thinking as he's resisted calls to scrap the fill buls filibust past. that comes a week after the supreme court overturned roe v. wade, a week ago in fact. democrats do not have the votes to change the rules in an evenly divided senate and lack the votes for the women's health protection about that would have codified roe's protections already. we're watching the state fallout from the supreme court's decision to overturn roe after judges in florida and kentucky blocked laws that restrict access to abortion care on those states. that brings the total number of halts up to five after judges also blocked abortion restrictions in texas, utah and louisiana this week. abortion has been banned in these six states since the supreme court's decision with restrictions either in place or pending in about half of the state's in america. in kentucky, the judge's decision blocks two so-called trigger laws. one would ban abortion out right
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and make it a felony to provide abortions in the state and another outlaws abortion after a fatal heart beat is detected. and now that it is july 1st, the supreme court's term officially is over but it did not end without reaching a historic milestone. justice ketanji brown jackson now officially the first black woman confirmed at the nation's highest court. it comes nearly three months after the senate confirmed her to replace out going justice stephen breyer. that came after a slew of major decisions by the court this month including several that will fundamentally shift american life. chief white house corespondent peter alexander has more. >> reporter: the supreme court's term may be over but the impact on american life rages on. president biden before returning to washington condemning the abortion ruling. >> one thing that has been destabilizing is the outrageous
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behavior the supreme court of the united states over ruling not only roe v. wade but essentially challenging the right to privacy. >> reporter: he's urging congress to guarantee the right to an abortion calling for a limited change to the senate rule known as the filibuster but even though democrats control the senate, they don't have the votes for that. abortion is now prohibited or likely to be banned or restricted in roughly half the country. in other states, the future of abortion rights remains uncertain. virginia's republican governor glenn youngkin is pushing lawmakers to ban abortion after 15 weeks with exceptions for rape insist and the life of the mother. >> virginians want fewer abortions not more. >> reporter: the court now delivering the biden administration another gut punch in its effort to fight climate change with a 6-3 ruling limiting the environmental protection's agency's about toy to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. the president pledged to shift
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energy away from colburning plants toward renewable like wind and solar slamming the ruling as another devastating decision that takes our country backwards. still the court also handed the white house a political victory ruling that president biden can end a trump era program that forces migrants seeking asylum in the united states to remain in mexico. all of it as the court begins a historic new chapter. >> so help me god. >> reporter: newly sworn in justice ketanji brown jackson is the first black woman on the court replacing stephen breyer. >> pleased to welcome justice jackson to the court and common calling. >> reporter: the court will look more like america, justice jackson won't change the conservative majority. >> nbc's peter alexander reporting. still ahead this morning on the fourth hour of "morning joe" we'll bring you details into the investigation on the capitol attack on january 6th including the tension between the select
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6:41 in the morning in los angeles gearing up for fourth of july weekend this friday morning. "the new york times" political allies with more than a dozen witnesses called in the january 6th house select committee's investigation. "the times" says in may alone mr. trump's save america political action committee paid $200,000 to law firms. more than a dozen witnesses before the january 6th committee have also received free legal advice and had attorneys paid for by the american conservative unions first amendment fund
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which consults with mr. trump's team whose fees to cover from the seven-figure finances. a spokesman for the former president trump declined to comment. republican congresswoman liz cheney meanwhile faced off against four primary challengers in a debate last night for wyoming's loan congressional seat. cheney stood by her work as vice chair of the january 6th committee and cast the republican party as threatened by its loyalty to former president trump. on the stage with cheney was former republican national committee chairwoman from wyoming herriot hagueman endorsed by trump. she appeared at trump's rally in casper, wyoming last month and joined the former president in dismissing cheney as a rhino in her words, republican that name only. cheney was quick to defend herself and her record. >> people need to know something about me. i will never put party above my duty to the country. i will never put party above my
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duty to the constitution. there is a real tragedy occurring and the tragedy is that there are politicians in this country beginning with donald trump who have lied to the american people. the truth matters. and the claims that mrs. hagueman is making about the 2020 election are the same claims for which the president's lead lawyer rudy giuliani was disbarred. >> wyoming's primary takes place next month and congresswoman cheney is trailing in every poll as she tries to hold on to her seat. a new piece in the "new york times" highlights tensions between the january 6th house select committee and department of justice. something brought to the forefront this week following the testimony of former trump white house aide cassidy hutchinson. "the times" article reads in part committee members repeatedly suggested attorney general merrick garland has not moved fast enough to follow up their investigative leads but for reasons that are not entirely clear, classic washington bureaucratic
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territorial, the department's unwillingness to share information or the desire to stage manage a successful public forum, member haves resisted turning over hundreds of transcripts until they are done with their work. joining us now is one of the co-authors of that piece, "new york times" congressional reporter luke broadwater. luke, good to see you. we heard publicly and privately from members of the committee and democrats at large saying the justice department needs to move on this especially now given everything we've seen from cassidy hutchinson and other witnesses this week. where is that tension? >> yeah, it's fascinating to watch. there are two parallel investigations going on here. you have the january 6th committee's investigation and then you have the justice department. and the justice department is fanning out across the country and issuing subpoenas that. we saw more subpoenas that go out just recently but at the
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same time, they have asked the select committee to turnover hundreds and hundreds of transcripts of these interviews that they've done with their witnesses and they haven't done so so far and the justice department is getting increasingly frustrated about that and that sort of came to ahead during cassidy hutchinson's testimony because they hadn't seen those transcripts where cassidy hutchinson lays out very damming information about what donald trump was doing and what other top officials in the white house were doing and they felt that if they could have access to the information earlier, they could accelerate their investigation. so the committee is calling on them to do more but at the same time holding back information from the justice department there is tension there. i'm told these things will be
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resolved eventually. they haven't shared transcripts. >> help our viewers understand that because as you say, on the one hand you have members of the committee says let's go merrick garland, get moving on this. we've given you everything you need. on the other hand, they won't give the transcripts. is that a procedual problem? why would they not hand those over? >> they say congress is a separate branch of government. they have worked very hard to do all these interviews, more than 1,000 interviews. it's a huge logistic effort to create the transcripts and manage them and they feel like they want to get the hearings done before they share the work. i think one thing that the committee wants to do is preserve certain surprises in the hearings. you know, at the end of each hearing there is a teaser about things that might come in the future, you know, a tease at pardons or witness intimidation, things like that. i think that they might be worried about some of that
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information getting out and maybe ruining the impact of their hearings if they start sharing these transcripts and perhaps that information were to get out. >> certainly the department of justice has a lot to work with whenever they get the transcripts but even with their own investigation. congressional reporter luke broadwater appreciate you. coming up next on "morning joe" we have stories making headlines including democrats blasting president biden for planning to nominate an anti abortion republican judge to the federal bench in kentucky. one democrat calling it quote a deal with the devil. details when "morning joe" returns. s when "morning joe" returns. ♪ it wasn't me by shaggy ♪ you're never responsible for unauthorized purchases on your discover card. my mom says that breyers is made with real milk.
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is entering a recession. to kentucky the courier journal said democrats are blasting president biden for nominating an anti-abortion republican judge to the district court for the iron district of kentucky. the congressman says it's part of deal with mitch mcconnell to push federal nominations. kentucky's democratic governor says he opposes the pick. democratic senate kand booker said the white house is making what he calls a deal with the devil. some big news in the world of college sports. from the la times, ucla and usc leaving the pac-12 conference and heading to the big ten in 2024. creating a powerhouse 16-member conference.
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the big ten said in a statement the vote was unanimous. it leaves the pac-12 with ten teams. in colorado the gazette with a front page photo of yesterday's parade in denver celebrating the colorado avalanche. estimated 500,000 fans showed up to the downtown parade honor the third title in its first in 21 years. in mississippi the paper has a story above the fold nearly 70 years in the make jeff gordon the family of emmitt till is calling for that woman's arrest after finding an unserved warrant from 1955. nbc news correspondent ron allen has details. >> reporter: some 67 years after the kidnapping, torture and murder of 14-year-old emmett
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till a document reigniting the family's quest for justice. >> we dropped to our knees, prayed, shouted. >> reporter: till's cousin said they found an unserved arrest for the woman of kidnapping that supposedly made a rude gesture to in a store in 1955. her husband and half brother abducted and murdered till. the killers both now dead acquitted by an all white jury and confessed in interviews. dunham was never arrested or charged. do you think this is a turning point? >> i do. there is a note on the reverse side of the warrant that indicates that she was not found in the county.
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>> reporter: from comment from state and federal investigators who have reopened and closed the case. some legal experts say prosecutors would likely need a new warrant. >> i believe mississippi has blood on the hands and has an opportunity to clean that up and to make sure that justice prevails. >> reporter: a fight endures in the killing of a young boy that changed a nation. >> a new twist in a case 67 years old. have a great holiday weekend. we'll see you next week on "morning joe." for now the coverage continues with jose diaz-balart after a quick break. (♪ ♪) how do we demonstrate our unmovable strength? (eagle call) nope. how do we show that we'll stand tall through the storms?
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hmm... back to the miro board. dave says “feed it?” and dave feeds it. just then our hero has a breakthrough. "shoot it, camera, shoot a movie!" and so our humble team saves the day by working together. on miro. good morning. sock a.m. eastern, 7:00 a.m. pacific. good morning. i'm jose diaz-balart. 48 million people are set to travel this holiday weekend. everything you need to know before you hit the road. heart broken family members of the 53 found dead in texas in what's believed to be the deadliest human smuggling operation in u.s. history. this amp a high stakes meeting