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on that note, i wish you a good night. from our law colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thank you for staying up late, have a great and safe fourth of july. >> summer was full of energy, very attractive girl. she had that model look. she did not do anything low key. all of the strange twists this story took, now you know someone who's been murdered. it was like nothing i'd expect to happen. >> inside a gated community, a harrowing discovery. >> it's a lady laying in the pole. >> she's completely gone? >> yes. >> the scene of the crime scene, we were looking for anything that stood out. >> her sandal. >> tucked right underneath the hose on the edge. >> it was obvious this was
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staged. >> was there someone who wanted samira out of the way? >> there was a female standing outside. mr. frechette had multiple female acquaintances. >> they all had a common career, they were exotic dancers. >> two clues. one chilling -- >> we had an unknown dna on a rope that came off the victim. i literally looked at it and thought, seriously? >> that was absolutely stunning. >> behind the curtain was a very dark story. >> it was a cold morning in february, cold for a northern florida, that is. crisp, but sunny when the call came in. >> can i get an officer out here in golden eagle? it's a lady laying in the pool -- in her backyard, in her pool. >> it made no sense, really.
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too cold for a swim. but the lady was not swimming. wasn't even floating. down at the bottom of the pool. >> she's dead. >> she was lying, face up, her palms too. as if in supplication. her leopard print robe drifting in the water around her. >> she'd been in there -- i don't know how long. she, she completely gone. >> the house with the backyard pool was located in an exclusive gated community in tallahassee, florida called golden eagle. first responders went there and pretty soon, sheriffs detective joviality got the call. >> they said they'd found a body in a pool. and we were scrambling our investigative unit. >> was that as much as you knew when you got the first call? >> it. was >> you would discover the emts that were there by then. tried cpr, just in case. given that the water was so cold. >> i don't think they knew how long she had been in the pool.
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so, the thought process was maybe that they could revive her. >> because a persons metabolism slows down sometimes, it looks like they are dead, but maybe they're not dead. was there a serious thought that she might have survived? >> it was not the case. >> no, at the hospital, the doctors tried to check her body temperature to determine how long she had been dead. but she was too cold for the thermometer. no way to calculate how long she had been in the pool. of course, by then, they had figured out who she was. samira frasch, unusual name. they looked up online and, wow. >> she was gorgeous. and she was really a volume. >> some mirage was amazing, look at, her stunning, most certainly. and glamorous. and very french. >> it's everything or nothing. i'm french, i know.
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>> once upon a time she turned heads in paris, runway model, sultry model, a singer, or so the stories went. such a shame what happened to her. and such a mystery. >> when you think of all the strange twists of that the story took. >> he was a friend, by the time it all ended. >> the story is very sad, how it all ended up. but it is still a wild story. >> the story, her story, was not at all wild to begin with. she was born far away in french speaking madagascar. she was poor, dirt poor, like the dirt floors in her family simple house. and her story, frankly, would've ended their, anonymously, we'd have nothing to tell. where not for something in her. some drive, some desire. >> she was full of energy and
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determination, and she always wanted to be doing something. >> over here, we call it the american dream. there, it was paris. it was her own hard work that won her a spot in the paris college. it was her talents and her remarkable look that got her a place on paris fashion runways, and still, there'd be no story for us were it not for a night in 2006 in a trendy paris nightclub when she met him. adam frasch. jackie watson, a french national herself, was samara's friend. >> he was showered her with gift, love, and flowers. >> it was that ultimate intoxicant, love at first sight. she was brilliant, tall, and incredibly beautiful. and he was a prominent and successful florida doctor, a podiatrist, surgeon, and attractive, said samara's
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friend, jackie. >> very handsome man, tall, bright blue eyes, very good-looking. they made the perfect couple. >> and he was smitten. she showed him us paris he had not seen before, but never like you saw it with samara. >> beautiful way, beautiful spirit. huge. small >> adam's friend saw it to, like the reverend larry johnson. >> they were obviously in love with each other. >> the romance with adam was right out of a book. >> she said actually was like a fairytale. >> so that's how it began, and back and forth they went, he would fly to paris, she to tallahassee, florida, where he lived, just so they could see each other. adam could not stop talking about her, couldn't believe his luck. >> he said i'm in love with, i'm going to marry her. >> he was a catch to, right? oh yes. he had flown through college in three years, was the youngest graduate in his med school class.
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a workaholic in school and out. >> when he was in college, he had three part-time jobs for a while. and he never buy pop because that costume. he drank water. >> but his medical practice, said his dad, was amazing. >> he was very successful. i'd go in the office in the waiting room would be full when i got there, and 5:00 it would still be full. >> and by the time adam met samara, he was both a respected podiatrist and welcome, and with two practices in georgia, just over the florida border in tallahassee. >> i was impressed with his professionalism. he was not in a hurry to do it fast and get out, get on to the next patient. he had a big heart. >> before they got married, they had to wait, adam and samara. he was in the midst of a divorce. and when it was final, they did not hesitate. they married in vegas. and they made their home in
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tallahassee. not many french nationals here. >> tallahassee? >> yeah. talk about a cultural shift. >> no kidding. you don't say. >> annabelle diaz became some mirages soulmate? culture shock is an easy phrase to say but for french women like annabelle and samara, getting used to tallahassee was not so easy. >> all have to do is open your mouth? >> exactly. >> and you're different. >> yes. >> annabelle, who emigrated years earlier, had to give samara a tutorial on the english language, when it came to words with that began with the letter h. >> remember, in french, people to not say their h's. so imagine speaking english one inches silent -- >> it's not like you speak from ex variant? >> i do. >> so hate comes out as eight,
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-- >> do not use h words, they won't understand. you >> can hear she had friends like jackie and annabelle. and annabelle's mother who kind of adopted samara. a good life. >> we were just trying to be a bunch of french girls drinking red wine and eating cheese. >> and fortunately for adam and samara, there were babies. first came little barbara, a baby who would have the childhood samara could only dream of. >> i think she was trying to provide this will for this baby that she thought the baby deserved. >> hire a and then skater. samara pick the names. >> her entire world were those two kids. every night she would just be with her babies. >> say hey. hi! >> i don't think there's anything that she wanted to do or be except for being their mother. her whole world revolved around them. >> and then, it was that february morning in 2014, about
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11 am, it was the handyman who called 9-1-1. and hear the story seemed to end the adventures of samara dead, at just 38. though really, in a way, the story had just begun. coming up. >> it's a lady laying in the pool -- in her backyard, in her pool. >> what happened to samara? the tale told by -- >> tucked underneath the hose by the edge. >> had she tripped, chasing the family? doc would be the first. time >> i one saw her come close trying to catch. and >> when dateline continues. when dateline continues on one pizza—and a large is just $9.99?! the phrase “slice of heaven” comes to mind... marco's. pizza lovers get it. ♪ i'm the latest hashtag challenge. and everyone on social media is trying me. i'm trending so hard that
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called 9-1-1 on the chilling morning and february, 2013. >> there's a lady in the pool.
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>> he told the operator he knew samira frasch how children. two little girls, but he could not find them. >> where are her kids? >> i don't know, ma'am. i can't get in the house. i can get nothing. i just wonder in the back, in the pool. >> investigator jason human searched for clues at the place samira frasch's too shortlived came to a sudden. and >> i just looked for anything that stood out. >> and, right away, what's stood out was evidence of one of those bizarre rude goldberg tripping accidents people tend to fall prey to. this is police video, the pool deck was kind of a mess. and, look at this! one of samira's sandals was caught under a garden hose that ran under the deck and in the pool. >> stuck rendered needs the hose on the edge. and the other one was down in the bottom of the pool. >> detective tony guaraldi
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discovered the dog had escaped to the pool deck. so. >> they have the small dog and it apparently runs around if it gets out. >> i figured she fell, that's the dog they had gotten out and run around the. pool >> when he heard of samira 's, the father in law said the same thing nearly happened to him during a visit. >> i couldn't catch him around the pool. i about stumbled on the host trying to catch. him >> so, it was obvious, she must of been chasing the dog, tripped on the hose, maybe hit her head, and wound up in the pool. tragically, the one thing samira couldn't do was swim. one look at the web told detectives, this was otherwise very versatile woman. >> you can definitely google search her. youtube. >> and there she was. about half dozen music videos under the name samira ds.
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many in made in her native madagascar. but when she became a mother, her ambition shifted. now, she wanted her daughter, eventually daughters, to be the center of attention. >> i said, she so, young so beautiful, she said, let's be serious here, let's focus on the kids. >> the kids and the big idea. and that's when she first met joel silver. he's a producer. in 2012, she called him out of the blue and set up a meeting. >> she said my baby is beautiful, she should be on tv, and commercials, and. this and samira acted on this. >> she instinctively seem to understand the power of social media. >> by that time, we were starting to see those sort of things on youtube and facebook. >> true? >> famous people, famous dogs on facebook that have thousands and millions of followers. >> why not a famous baby? >> why not a famous baby was her idea. so we'll see how it works.
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>> you are in? >> i wasn't. >> the idea was to create a market of children's clothing line based on outfits that she doesn't for her child. she just saw them on her website. that youtube videos would push potential customers to her site. if the kardashians could do it, why not her? >> she said, i want to make videos of my baby. and i want to travel and make sure everyone can see how beautiful maybe because. >> it seemed to be a perfect formula. that is using the online clothing business based on her child so she could be close to our baby and adam, and see her country, and have fun. enviable. >> when i saw her and her husband and that little girl, i looked at them and said, this is what i want one day. >> they took their road show all over the country. vegas, disney world, hollywood, the kentucky derby, washington,
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d.c., new york's times square, and everybody admired the baby. even another tv celebrity. the late began from bobwhites. >> you are so gorgeous. >> i don't know if she just thought this is how you do it in america. >> there's evidence that suggests there is. or something like that. >> yes. so, right, when you come to the u.s., this is what she thought was, the best way to showcase hyra. >> in the background, adam, always a little bit off camera, quietly hovered. proud but worried a little. protective. of course, he financed the productions, big for her music videos. two out on the road, were you ever approached by people who thought this was off? >> we never got any kind of backlash from anybody about saying, this is terrible, what are you doing?
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because hyra was always the perfect tv star. she was always in a great mood, always waving, smiling. whenever you see those videos, that baby was always happy. >> and samira, over the top or not, she was somehow genuine, said silver. and he rolled the camera as she, no fuss, no furs, no makeup, doted on her baby girl. this, thought joel silver, was true love. and then there was the party, hyra's birthday party, and the biggest promotion on social media. tallahassee had never seen anything like this. >> with how much samira luck this baby, she was determined to make it the party of all parties. this was an l.a., hollywood birthday of a celebrity baby. >> samira played host a narrator. >> okay, today is what hyra's
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first birthday. watch. >> men just as egyptian guards. a sword wielding belly dancer. and samira dripping, gold wearing a gown, for a queen fit for the null. adam went for something more elvis. and there, at the center of it all, their daughter, hyra, in white feathers and for. that as they sang happy birthday, samira and adam were beaming. no one would know that in a little more than a year should be gone. the baby, without a mother. detectives had watched the videos and something like amazement. and then, they heard from the corner. and remember that rude goldberg tripping thing? maybe not an accident after all. coming up, but the medical examiner had to say --
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>> the physical finding was -- >> the questions about the fat handyman who refused to pull from the water. >> he was like, i wasn't going to touch her. >> when dateline continues. n dateline continues homeowner is turning into their parents. -not those two. -yep, they're gone. -forever? -yep. that there is progressive's homequote explorer website, where i compared home insurance rates. we don't need to print the internet. some are beyond help. i will give you $100 if you can tell me what this is. -scotch egg. -it's a meatball. progressive can't help you from becoming your parents, but we can help you compare rates on home insurance with homequote explorer. we've got a lot of work to do.
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my minions will save me. with homequote explorer. [ speaking minion ] unless they screw everything up. hello. >> there was one little thing here in the pool where samira them frasch met her and, it was
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about that sandal, there in the water, the one trapped under the garden hose, it bothered the investigator. >> there is a stripper on the hill, a lot of the females in the office would say, that doesn't just fall off your foot like that. >> that sandal looked, well, almost like someone had created a little staged setting, like it was too perfect, too obvious to be true. and, then tony guaraldi got a call from the medical examiner. oh my. why did he discover? >> the cause of death was blood forced trauma to the head, coupled with drowning. >> and such a way that it could've happened accidentally or did it seem to the emmy as though it were homicide? >> the refusal findings that there was help plan that we were looking for somebody. the causes death. >> here's what the medical examiner said, one side of samira's skull was fractured,
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which certainly could've meant that she had her head on the way to the pool. but the other side of her head was damaged to. a simple slip and fall could not account for that. but remember, the medical examiner saw the evidence of blood forced trauma and drowning, which means that she was still alive when she hit the water. so was it murder? it looked like, yes. the detectives went to work. >> we collect as much physical evidence as we could and we interviewed everybody that was saw samira last or who was close to her. like the man who founder in the pool. the handyman. gerald gardner. >> he was someone that we needed to talk to, and rule out as a suspect. >> police saw that there was something odd about gerald gardner, at least, if somebody said when he called. the operator asked him to go into the pool and pull her out. >> anyway you can jump in and get? or >> i, probably can, but i
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prefer the officer to be here before they -- before a touch. because i don't know how long she's been in. there >> nobody wants to jump and get around. >> well, ma'am, she's been in, there i don't know, she's completely gone. and i want y'all to come to pictures of it before i take her out. >> gerald gardner new samira, had worked for four years, so why did he refuse the operator's request? >> when we talk to him later said, i was not going to touch, or i didn't want my dna on her. i knew i would be the first suspect if i found her. i do not want to be involved in this. >> he was right. police would look at him and his story closely. there was someone else there with him that day, his 14-year-old son, gerald gardner junior. the boy was questioned. >> we open the back gate, and we went to the pool area. and we noticed her two sandals was in the pool. and we've seen her laying on the bottom of the pool. just laying there. >> who saw her first?
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>> my daddy. >> during a break in the interview, the boisterous. his mother telling him to calm down. police had to do their job. >> but you crying for, little gerald? >> i'm being scared. >> well, and nothing, you can't do nothing about it. you are one of the ones that was there. >> as for his father, gerald gardner, some people were saying he did more than just work for samira. >> we interviewed a couple of people about a racial asian chevron some people suspected it, gerald swears up and down that he did not. >> where the? friends >> they were friends. he would do anything she needed. >> were father and son telling them everything? maybe they would find out from the security tapes. the frasch's place was in a gated community. so there was an arrival and departure video. that's how detectives confirmed that the handyman and his son arrived at 10:51 am, ten
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minutes before calling 9-1-1. so could the gardeners have found something some so terrible and so short to tell? >> he made some statements on the 9-1-1 call that i believe sound very credible and genuine. and he's very adamant that he was worried about the welfare of the children as well. >> gerald gardner and some, they decided, did not kill samira. so, who did? the one person they wanted to ask, of course, was adam frasch. except they couldn't find him. adam and the two little girls were apparently away somewhere. there was a friend who might know where. friend who, the detectives discovered, did not like the former french model, now lying cold and dead in the morgue. not one tiny bit. coming up. and this friend didn't care who
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across the long driveway, yellow tape was put up. a number learned went for the two children, hyrah and skynaah, and it was on that day that adam's closest friend, a man named karen lindsey came up. >> he told me that he was on the other. side >> on the other side of? but >> that's what i said. what do you mean? and i asked, is she dead? and he said, yeah man, they found out the bottom of the. pull and i, said no, you have to be kidding. >> kendall confirmed it with a friend through the police force. and then he steeled himself for the call that he knew he had to make. kendle always called adam doc. >> i called him dock and he picked up. and i told him what i heard. and i told him, yeah, she was found dead in the pool. and he took it quiet. i imagine he was crying because
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his daughter said, daddy, why are you crying? >> you heard. it >> i heard. it >> adam told kendle that he was in their beach house in panama city, nearly three hours. where he told him that he took the case for the weekend so samira could rest. >> and i told, i'm just bring the kids here. just bring them here, you have to come find out what's going on. and he said he was on his way. >> soon after he shared the news with adam about his wife, kendle got another phone call. his police contact. he needed some help. >> my police friend asked me did i know who he was. and i said yeah. and he said where is he, and i said he's in panama city. but he's on his way. here >> with adam back to tallahassee, the officer asked kendle for another favor. >> well another detective wants to ask you some questions and he said yes man, i'm on. home within 30 minutes but detective was not my. don't ask me questions. >> kendle told the detectives his relationship with adam bordered on brotherhood. kendle is a car dealer and adam
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had a thing for collecting cars. >> ferrari's, some very nice mustangs, tumbling mercedes, convertibles, you name it. >> in fact, adam owned 80 cars. at least maybe 100. so at first it was a business relationship but soon they were fast friends. they went to game together, shot pool, traveled to miami, orlando, vegas. especially, they liked vegas. >> we'd go to casinos and stuff like, that just travel a lot. >> at the casinos, adam played in texas holden poker tournaments. adam liked carrying big lots of cash and flaunted his expensive watches and jewelry. >> did you find yourself sort of becoming his protector, watching out for him? >> we'd go to the casino and he'd have jewelry on and flushing like a superstar. you got all kinds of guys
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looking at the stuff, it didn't matter to him, he was just naive to. it >> then the detectives asked, how did kendle feel about samira? >> he asked, would you think about her? >> i don't like. rattle >> it was no. secret >> i don't like. rattle >> samira didn't like her husband spending so much spending so much time with kendle. kendle told adam, don't let your wife dictate your friendships. >> we continued our friendship under the radar from her. she realized that i was the one encouraging him, to stand up for himself. >> but he would say to her, hey, look, he's my friend, i will see him whether you like it or not? >> no way. no way. >> kendle said, he tried to tell the detective all that. but then it dawned on him. he, kendle, was a suspect. >> when he started asking me where was i last night, that's when i started saying, do i need a lawyer here. >> police asked him for his phone. and if he would go to the sheriff's office to take a dna test.
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questions continued there for hours. >> so, obviously, you know why you're here. >> yeah. >> hardly a surprise. >> i'm probably a suspect as well. i understand that. but about the nature of the call. how i feel about samira. >> kendall hold detectives about a time that you stood up for adam during an argument. samira wasn't happy. >> i said, you hit, me i'll knock you for the windows, that was my exact words. i will knock you for the. windows >> and then there kendall was's last conversation with samira, the night she was found murder. kendall said that it was over a misunderstanding, and then it escalated when she accused him of stealing adams closed. expletives exchanged. >> she lit into me. you don't -- you don't even know where my clothes that -- you better bring my clothes
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back. all that kind of -- so i said, yeah, i burned them. and i hung up, just like. that >> kendall said something, said something that he probably should've said. >> i talked about it this morning, i said, if it was me, they would have to be looking for the killer, because my hands would still be wrapped around her neck like that right there. and that's the truth. >> did he just say that? about his best friends wife found dead in a pool? now that got the detective's attention. time, they decided, to take a hard look at this guy's halibut. did he have one? coming up -- >> a lot of marble. gold. a lot of exotic animals that were stuffed. >> inside the jaw-dropping world of adam and samira frasch. >> >> approximately four houses, multitude of cars, anywhere from 80 to 100. high in vehicles. mercedes, bmw, homers, corvettes, even a ferrari. >> did all of that wealth
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died. >> i talked about it this morning, i, said if it was, me they would have to be looking for the killer because my hands would be still wrapped around her neck like that right there. and that's the truth. >> one thing to say? even if it was a joke. so, next question. what was kendall up to the night before and the morning that samira was found? >> i went hunting, around about 5:30. then i came home, still in my hunting gear. had to take a shower. both of my sons was there. >> all right. so the next morning, you -- you're out the house. >> right. >> you don't go anywhere. >> nowhere. >> after breakfast i kendall drove him to work. that was 11. 20 samira was found at 11. so he had an alibi. the detectives regrouped. and went back to the frasch house. let it talk to them. and top it did. >> wow.
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it was different. different for most people's taste. >> detective tony guaraldi -- >> a lot of marble, a lot of gold, a lot of exotic animals that were stuffed. >> oh wow. >> which was kind of new, it was new for us. >> but it wasn't just the over the top house. everything the detectives learned about the frasch's practically screamed money. watches, clothes, guns, a fleet of cars. >> approximately four houses, multitude of cars anywhere from 80 to 200, high-end vehicles. mercedes, bmw's, hammers, corvettes, even a ferrari. >> boats? >> he did have a boat that we discovered. >> the investigators asked kendall lindsey, and he told them, as he did us, that adam frasch would often buy a car
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when the two men were on the road and leave it behind. >> he'd go almost anywhere and would be a car there that he owned? >> that's. right >> and we just sit there. >> it would just. there he thought of collecting. i saw him as a hoarder, in a way. i know it's a strong word, but anywhere from what i witnessed, he could never get enough of buying things. not just cars, a lot of nice things. >> so maybe buying things meant some sort of psychological need? >> we would get a cut out for a couple of hours, it could be 11:00, 1:00 in the morning. and he sees it, if he's in florida, or nevada, or on a plane, road driving down that night to be there. >> to buy it. >> to buy it. as soon as he buys the car, that rush is over. okay, find me another car. >> the doctor liked to pay for these things. in fact, most things in cash.
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like the time he took samira and jackie out to dinner. >> i noticed you had money because when he paid the beer, he had a big stack of $100. and i was like, oh. you know? >> investigators quickly realized that samira seemed to share adams pension for spending. things >> she bought 1500 dollar pacifiers for the children. the shuttle years, the statues. there was nothing they wouldn't. by >> so they figured, maybe money was the clue in the frasch marriage. and sometimes, during rough patches, a peace offer ring. >> in text messages, he would send pictures of hundred dollars bills shaped and i love you. >> that was the effective way? >> it. worked >> doctor frasch was only too happy to spend lavishly the poor girl from madagascar so she could have her american dream.
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apparently could afford. >> it he was doing very. well >> how wealthy was? he >> probably one of the wealthiest podiatrist in the state, or i believe the country. >> it was true, at the, time doctor frasch was one of the leading practitioners of a cutting edge skin graft procedures for diabetics. people poured into his clinics in southern georgia. so in 2012, for example, couple of years before samira died, the doctor received more than 1 million dollars in medicare payments. >> he would start on the clock and then work till whenever he -- 7:00 before he got done. >> his sudden my have come by the stacks another way too. at the gaming table. >> he got started in texas hold'em, poker, and when he got involved like that, he won a goal until he was the bus.
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>> where he poured his money go, investigators also found out that he was generous, shared his fortune with his friends and family, and patients. to reverend larry johnson was the doctor's patient first, and then his friend. >> he came through the door, he was going to treat, you regardless. money, or no money. >> if you needed $1, 000, and you show why you needed, it he would give. it >> you couldn't just ask for $1,000? >> his heart was big. >> so, the detectives had questions for the doctor. many questions, but first, they had to find him. coming up. the doctor surfaces, but his behavior only raises more questions. >> there's a lot of factors that made you look at adam and go, what happened to you? >> when dateline continues. n dateline continues
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discovered, investigators track down adam at his beach house in panama city beach. they had told him to devastating news about sandra and then the cops arrived. >> he was packing up the vehicle, had the kids in the car. >> heading for home he told the officers, instead he was taking -- he was taken to the local sheriff's office. they recorded the conversation on audiotape. the doctor was a mess. >> the cops were all business. what they ask was adam doing the night before? aaron's he told them with sandra and the baby's, they were all together. then a pleasant lunch at an even better evening. >> actually we made love in the
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living room, on the chair in the living room. >> when you say made love, you had sex? >> i don't like to get into that personal kind of -- because it was one of the better times we had in a while. >> then adam told them that sandra asked him for a favor. >> she said that she was really tired. exhausted. tomorrow i want to break, just take the babies, you guys can go somewhere, i want to sleep in. >> so come morning, said adam, he took the girls to the beach house. >> what time was it when you left? >> it was approximately eight or so. >> and where was sam? >> she was in bed. >> there's surveillance camera backed up adams story, there's his car leaving golden eagle, but what struck the cops conducting the interview was how the doctors emotions seemed how to, put it, disconnected from his tear ducts this
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investigator wasn't in the room but his colleagues were. >> i remember saying that adam said how sorry he was, how bad he felt about his wife and you've yet to shed a single tier. >> is that a true tale about whether someone is grief-stricken or not? >> no there were a lot of other factors that made you look at adam and go, what happened here? >> other factors? well, there was as investigators discovered a whole different story about this family, very different. very tumultuous. in fact they were in the middle of t divorce, which would be divorce number three for adam, so yes they were skeptical about adam's story, they told him so. >> we know that history. >> right. i understand. >> we know how things have taken place between the two of you. >> the history, it was complicated all right. but one thing the doctor had a
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roving i. infidelities. like what? >> he had you could say multiple affairs, multiple girlfriends. >> while he was with her? >> yes. >> and said jackie watson, she could not bear her husbands cheating. >> i think it was the more 1 millionth time he cheated on her, there is only so much a human being can take. so >> the marriage turned along in turmoil, sometimes angry wife would take it out on her husband, as investigators discovered when they found this snippet of video on her phone. she has locked him out of the car. >> sam, i'm sorry. sam. >> what did you find out about that marriage? about those two people at the heart of it? >> it was a marriage that lacked trust, it was verbal abuse, physical abuse. >> six months before she died a particularly nasty fight, a call to the police and samira
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was arrested for domestic battery. >> she was a volatile person would attack adam, there was a domestic history between the two. >> she was charged a time or two? >> she was charged and arrested for domestic violence. >> and that is how samira met annabelle diaz, her attorney. >> we got her out of jail and we got served with an injunction. >> adam's attorney told the judge he had enough and the judge granted the injunction. >> annabelle diaz on her way to becoming samira a's friend now thought it was awful. >> she cannot go back home, she cannot see her kids. >> this is what the injunction said? >> yes. >> it didn't stay that way, mind you. after she filed for divorce she managed to regain custody of the two little girls and she and adam started living apart. >> was that breakup particularly painful -- >> for him? yes, he did everything he could to keep coming back.
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>> kendall watched as the doctor tried to put the marriage back together again. >> he still bought her cars, tried to buy her thousand dollar dresses to buy her back. she would take it and -- >> hold him at bay? >> yes. was there a motive and all of this? a tumultuous marriage ending in violence, a husband scorn still deeply in love with this fall a tall wife. maybe he finally snap, struck back. that's with the investigators wondered as they said in the interview room late that night. >> the best person in the world has a limit. okay? and when they reach that limit, they do things that they don't -- wouldn't ordinarily do or couldn't even think of doing. and i think you reach that limit. >> no. it's not true. >> the doctor insisted he wasn't there, didn't know what happened. but he thought it was most likely an accident. >> i'm worried that she may have tripped on the and felon.
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>> maybe. maybe not. coming up. a bombshell for the neighbor who tells police what he saw just minutes before samira was found dead. >> he observed a black female standing outside the frasch's residence. >> was it samira or possibly the killer? when dateline continues. e continues. [ dinosaur snarls ] flo: it's a good thing you bundled your home, auto, and rv insurance with progressive. you saved money and you get round-the-clock protection. so don't worry. it's all under control. [ screaming continues ] that's cool. we'll finish up here. bye! [ roars ] [ screaming continues ] that's why you go to the restroom before the movie starts. get epic protection for your dominion with progressive. >> the detectives talk to adam
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frasch for nearly two hours, he wouldn't harm the hair on her head, not samira, the love of his life. but they weren't buying his accident story, didn't buy any of it. in fact one detective said it sounded to them like it was a fatal attraction.
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>> you love her to death? >> that term is not appropriate for you to be saying that. >> police had heard enough. >> this interviews concluded at 1:37 am. >> they arrested adam frasch but not for his wife's murder, didn't have enough evidence for that. so they found another way. because adam and samira we're in the midst of a divorce and by court order he had no right to take the kids that morning he had a reason to hold him in jail. >> he was arrested because he violated an agreement having custody of the children. >> you can keep him in custody for a while that way? >> sure. he stayed in custody, we continue to work our death investigation. >> adam, in his jail clothes was pale and needed a shave when we caught up with him. he had a clear message, he would never harm his wife. he loved samira from the night he met her in paris, almost ten years before. what did you see in her and she
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and you? >> for beauty, for one. >> couldn't miss that? >> she didn't speak very good english, and i spoke no french, and we had a good romantic time together. >> once they married and started a family, adam told us there wasn't a better mother on this earth. that clothing line, adam figured samira was driven by the deprivations of her own childhood. >> she wanted them to have the opportunities that she didn't have. >> the day adam got the call from his best friend kendall about the awful news about samira. was fresh in his mind. was it like to? here >> terrible. it destroyed my world. i broke down, my little girls were saying why are you crying? >> but wait, if adam really was that loving husband and what about all the other women, the stories of infidelity? didn't happen, he told us.
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not while he was living with samira, not until they separated and he thought his marriage was over. >> i was on divorce number three, i was ready to start on with my life. started dating -- >> but you didn't have relationships all the way through? >> no. >> because this is the allegation that is out there. >> in fact, said adam, he and samira we're trying to reconcile. during that last month he had been staying at the house with her and the children. and they agreed to try again. she was going to call off the divorce, he said. >> she said that she was sorry and she wanted me back. >> how did that feel? >> wonderful. and then she admitted it was very difficult raising the two goals by herself. >> and the final night ended with them making love, nothing else. murder? wasn't possible, said adam. and before long he made bail on the child custody case. months passed, if prosecutors
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were ever to charge adam with samira's murder, they would have to get around that problem, a big one. >> a neighbor of adams came forward with some information. >> where did he tell you? >> on the day that adam left, the morning of, he believes that he observes a black female standing outside of the frasch 's residents. >> he said she was tall and then. who did he think it was? >> i never really led on to say that this is samira frasch, he just said that he saw a black female standing outside of the frasch's residents. >> but he probably thought it was her? >> i think he did. >> what time? >> he said that he and his daughter were taking a walk in the neighborhood and this was in a time period about 20 minutes before joe gardner had discovered her. >> wait a minute, that would be 10:30, something like that? >> correct. >> and he was very sure about
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the time, very sure, no earlier than 10:25 am. so, was it samira? the detectives were baffled. having checked the security cameras, they knew adam had, as he said, left the house with the two kids around 8 am that morning, and if the woman the neighbor saw was samira, that man she was still alive when adam left, and for couple of hours after. and if that person was telling the truth, or was accurate, your guy could not have done the crime? >> that is correct. >> and then there was another possibility, that the woman in the driveway wasn't samira at all, it was someone else entirely. and if that was true, the woman the neighbor saw might have been the killer. so, what did you do about it? >> for me, it was trying to figure out who it is he saw, one, was he in the right
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driveway, two could it have been somebody else? it was a tough situation. >> tough, yes, the cops had their work cut out for them now. how to track down the woman in the driveway? coming up. could she be someone the doctor knew? turns out he had no shortage of companionship. tell me about these girlfriends, who were they? >> three of them were strippers. >> the investigation is about to get a lot more interesting. >> i never met samira, she was like all again it's going to be game over, okay? it's going to be game over. >> when dateline continues. line continues
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be skeptical, and in this case their suspicions lay like a web blanket on adam frasch's explanation. one in particular, adams said he only dated over women after samira filed for divorce. nothing could be further from the truth, said the detectives. >> mr. frasch had multiple
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female acquaintances, several of which looked very similar, stature -- >> yes. were these women seen as suspects? >> i mean they are persons of interest. i wouldn't necessarily put them in the suspect category, but throughout this investigation, everybody is a potential. >> and they could not ignore the possibility that one of those other women wanted to take samira's place in adam's life. one of them could be the woman the neighbor saw in the driveway. tell me about these girlfriends, what kind of women where they? >> three of them were strippers. >> you find yourself going to strip clubs and tracking people down? >> i did. i did. not the best time. >> and for each one, a question -- >> how do you been to tallahassee, when was the last time you were in tele-hasse? >> she was one of the women, she fit the description of the
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woman the neighbors on the driveway that morning. >> i never met samira, she was like all again, it's going to be game over, okay? it's going to be game over. now, that triggered me to stay away. >> then there was erica, also a poible match fothe mystery woman. >> let me ask you this question, you know anything about his wife's death? >> no sir. i swear in my life. i don't know anything about it. >> there was also a third woman, not one of the strippers, a woman whose story was a lot more complicated. >> somewhere between the engagement and the marriage, adam had a relationship with this individual named martha and they had a child as well. >> awkward. >> slightly. >> when adam find out that she is pregnant, he does the decent thing. >> put them up in a place, got
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her a car, always gave her money. >> samira found out about martha when she moved to florida just before she met adam. but went ahead with the wedding anyway. except, these things do have a thing of warming themselves into a marriage. the issue did not die. >> she made him take a dna to find out it was his child or not, and when he did and it was, she really got upset. >> investigators naturally wanted to talk to martha, especially after they found out sam or confronted her on the phone a number of times after she found out about the baby. so, what happened then? >> you guys had a few run-ins down the road, didn't you? >> i left him alone. i really didn't have any run-ins with her. only thing i do is meet adam, once a month. pick my money up, and we go. >> and so she did, please let her go after the interview,
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like the other women, she had an alibi. which detectives would have to check out, of course. but in the meantime they had another way to get at the truth. one a bit more foolproof. >> we had an unknown dna on a road that came from the victim. >> her robe. >> if one of those women had thrown samira in the pool, she may had left a bit of herself behind. they called dna from the women. >> we try to eliminate all of them. >> no matches. not to the women and not to the handyman, or his son, and not to adam's friend, candle. all of them are clear. investigators couldn't figure out who the women in the driveway was. now they were back to square one. they figured adam frasch was standing squarely in it, when he claimed that samira let him take the children to the beach house. >> i know she would never give
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up the kids. >> and certainly not the way they were dressed. >> wasn't samira's style. >> the day that he took the children to go to panama city, they were in pajamas. >> which wouldn't happen if she had anything to do with it? >> absolutely. >> open to interpretation of course, like phone messages left by adam on samira's phone after his friend kendall told him she was dead. what would they make of this? >> samira, please turn on your phone, call me a soon as you get this message. i'm starting to worry about you, baby. please call me back. >> he had called her throughout the day, leaving voice mails, i'm getting worried about, why aren't you answering your phone? >> but in that suggest more innocence than guilt? >> i believe it's just another attempt at an alibi for adam frasch. >> he can't win a situation like that the. you believe he's trying to get an alibi and it may just be as
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likely that he is really is terrified about her condition. >> you know, when you learn that your wife is dead, i have the kids, what's going on, at that to the fact that he has not gotten custody of the kids, that does not make sense. >> you know the story adam told about the last happy day with samira? security camera tapes from late that night told a very different story. first, in an auto repair shop, adam trying to talk to her, samira driving, backs up the car with the door open and him in it, like she doesn't seem to want any part of it. same kind of thing when they got home, adam tries to talk to her through the car door. she slams it on him. and if a lot of this wasn't hard evidence against adam, it
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did make for a pre-strong circumstantial case. or so, this prosecutor believed. she convened a grand jury and put the case to them. and this was unusual, adam testified. >> it didn't surprise me, he is a talker. he is smooth, he thinks he can toxic way out of things. >> not this time, apparently. >> item was indicted for first degree murder and so a jury would decide if as when detective said, adam frasch loved his wife to death. coming up. >> did you have an opportunity to overhear an argument between mr. and mrs. frasch? >> yes, on the phone. >> damning testimony from a witness. >> during the time that mr. frasch was on speakerphone, did he make any threats to harm misses frasch. >> he did, he said i'll kill you. >> when dateline continues.
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what's happening, carrie hochul a lot of the passing of legislation by the new york senate that will entrenched reproductive rights in the state constitution. the move followed a special session called for by the governor, the measure would still be approved by new yorkers by a referendum. and at least 21 civilians were killed and 38 more injured after russian missiles demolished a residential building in recreational center in the court city of odessa. according to ukrainian officials. now back to dateline. ck to dateline >> adam frasch was in a world of trouble, charged with killing his wife and facing the possibility of a life sentence. if that wasn't enough, federal agents raided his medical office on suspicion of medicare fraud, which might explain why the podiatrist seems so filthy rich. this prosecutor became aware of
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the raid after she took on's murder case. >> he would have to be seeing two patients simultaneously, 24/7 to account for the amount of building that he was doing. so that was pretty flagrant. >> busy guy? >> yes. >> the feds investigated but did not press charges. and then as frasch's trial date for murder approached, prosecutors offered him a deal, plead guilty to manslaughter and serve a maximum of 15 years, adam said no. he was innocent. he wanted his day in court. >> adam how are you feeling today? >> fine. >> and so almost three years after samira was found at the bottom of the family pool, her husband went on trial for murder. his father, alvin, was there. >> a bad situation for the whole family and for him to. because it destroyed his life.
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>> samira's was thousands of miles away in madagascar and friends. she did have an advocate in court, a tough an experienced prosecutor. >> the cause of death as ruled by the examiner was blunt force trauma and drowning. >> basically he killed her twice, he hit her and caused such massive injuries that she probably would've died from that, very likely. but then through her in the pool while she was still alive. >> who would do such a thing to this beautiful young mother of two small girls? >> well, that was adam, said the prosecutor. >> their history was probably the biggest clue that it was a homicide. >> yes, that history of excess, infidelity and conflict, which he said led to a fatal confrontation at the swimming pool. the ugly scene was described by the handyman who discovered her body. >> there she was, laying in the pool. >> when you say there she was,
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who was that? >> misses frasch in the pool. >> how could the jury be sure that she didn't trip and fall by accident? here was the medical examiner. >> do you have an opinion as to whether she could have tripped and bumped her head and fallen into the pool? >> i don't think that's what happened. those are significant impacts that i do not think she would generate herself by just falling. >> can you imagine a scenario where she would have hit both sides of her head and managed to get into the pool? >> i can't, no. >> detective tony guaraldi testified and told us that when he first met doctor frasch -- >> he had some scratches, some significant marks that not any normal person would have. >> how did he get them? did he tell you? >> he told investigators some of the marks were from him and his wife, samira, having sexual intercourse the night before. love marks. >> my goodness. >> the specific one under his eye, he shared with us that it
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was his ten month old child who had scratch them. >> you're about to hear a recorded conversation. >> the prosecutor make sure the jury would hear the detectives skepticism about the scratches. by playing the recordings of the interrogation. >> the baby was playing around, and she always kind of graphs at my eye and face. >> so you're trying to make me believe that a ten month old has nails enough to make those types of scratches on your face? >> yes. the >> prosecutor argued that adam killed samira before leaving for the beach at 8 am. on the stand, the emmy testified that the time of death was a noble. >> there is no way to say the exact time of death, or i should say when she was placed in the pool. there is just no way to say. >> the prosecutor simply thought that doctor frasch could not be rolled out, he must of killed or before leaving the house at eight. the way he drove off with the girls that morning, very
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suspicious. >> unusual that he would depart with those kids after 8 am after getting in at midnight and to load up and pack up the kids for the first time ever off on a trip somewhere and his wife happens to be discovered that a few hours later. >> after, said the prosecutor, the doctor sped away with the kids towards all woman name martha moore, the other woman with whom he had a baby. martha was called to testify about a phone call she got from frasch that morning. >> what did he say on that call? >> he said he was on his way to my house. >> why did you put martha more on the stand? >> to establish that the defendant calls her first and was headed in the direction of her home. i believe to drop the kids off their, it was probably his intention and then to flee. >> that was really only speculation of course and martha wasn't home that morning anyway. on the stand, she acknowledged that it seemed unusual, the girls would be alone with adam.
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>> they were going through the battle of divorce and the court orders, he shouldn't have had the kids. the >> prosecutor said that it was a bad set of facts for adam, a scorn husband with ample time to commit murder before hastily fleeing the scene, with kids who were not supposed to be in his care. >> mr. frasch i will read you your miranda writes? >> yes. >> they played more than an hour of frasch speaking with investigators, honing into his demeanor hours after samira's death. >> you done up here and broke down in your own way of crying, i don't know how many times, and not one tier has dropped out of your eyes. >> well i'm already teared out for six hours, sir. >> he spoke with several law officers in the hour. king was one of them. >> he put his hands over his
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face. >> were you able to observe actual tears? >> none that we saw, no. >> then the prosecutor called a man who could comment directly on adam frasch's state of mind. that man was named stephen wilson, he helped samira set up a website to celebrate his daughter. he recounted something that he heard from his own ears less than two weeks before samira was killed. >> did you hear an argument between that mr. and mrs. frasch? >> yes on the phone. >> and during the time that mr. frasch was on speakerphone, did he make any threats to harm misses frasch? >> he did. >> whether he? say >> he said i will kill you. >> i will kill you, the words of a man that looked guilty at every turn. of course the evidence was circumstantial. but there was one more player rating on the wings, and what a story he would tell. coming up, that tail would lead investigators back to the frasch house and to a dramatic
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american insurance prudence, condemned as it is used, the jailhouse snitch, the witness prosecutors hate to love, but this one had a story just too good to pass up. his name was fulsome. yes like the prison. and he told his keepers he had something to say about adam frasch. the day spent some time in a jail cell together? >> they spent several months in a jail cell together. they did. top bunk, bottom bunk. >> he talked to fulsome in the county lockup. >> we're about the same age, we
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just hit it off real big. >> i believe the information you provided me was credible. >> and here was the story fulsome said he got from dr. frasch. on the day she died, samira discovered her husband had been texting another woman and she hurt and angry started a fight and ended up at the bottom of the pool. now, on day three of adam frasch's trial, dale fulsome raised his right arm and swore to tell the truth and told that story to the jury. >> she started a fight that night. >> his testimony about the fight between adam and samira was vivid and rich with details. he >> defended himself pretty much, they were fighting, and he hit her in the head with a club. >> what happened, he hit her in the head? >> with a club. golf club. >> he said he didn't mean to kill her, it just happened and he got scared and ran.
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>> in a largy circumstantial case, here was an account of exactly what happened, allegedly, from the killer himself. would defendant with any sense is going to say would happen before the went on trial? >> it happens all the time, you have nothing all day but stare at those four walls, you have to talk to somebody, right? >> yes. >> if it's a piece of evidence i'm gonna put it on, and it's gonna be up to the jury to decide if use credible or not. >> it was up to investigator newman to vet his story, find evidence it was actually true, and he came up with something. came up with something almost too good to be true. newman testified that one fulsome was about to be released from jail, doctor frasch asked him to take care of something, something in his house. >> i'll never forget bill telling me, adam told him to get rid of the golf club put them in the lake, the river do
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not give them to anyone, just make them go away. >> make them go way? fulsome said there was no mistaking what frasch meant, he wanted him to get rid of those golf clubs which would include the one frasch used to hit samira, the murder weapon. >> did he tell you a specific golf club? >> yes, ma'am. >> big club like a driver, big fat one. >> and now, the court, a real live moment, investigator new men took a big fat golf club out of an evidence box with the jury could have a good look. >> this is the golf club. >> purple club head? >> yes man. >> how did newman get that club? well, fulsome never did make it to the house, so newman got a search warrant and went for a little look around. >> i went to the master bedroom and there is a golf club
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sitting in the corner, and part of me laughed inside. >> bingo. >> yes, bingo. >> it must have looked like a beautiful big, fat piece of evidence that would help make the case into a slam dunk? >> i looked at it for a minute and said, seriously? when i actually went to the golf club and photographed it, it had cobwebs, it had been there for a couple of nights. >> this was one for the books. a jailhouse snitch supported by actual evidence. and caplan had one more surprise. she called crime lab analyst. >> i received or was able to develop a complete dna profile from the club portion that samie frequency was one and five in ten quintillion. >> and there it was, the story of samira frasch's murder,
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wrapped up in a tidy sum package. but did the doctor really confess? >> this was after all still a story coming from a jailhouse snitch. >> this was the golf club -- >> and the golf club with samira's dna on it, maybe not so obvious after all. defense attorneys were about to take on, dale fulsome and his story, and they couldn't wait. coming up. the prosecutors timeline on trial. >> the absence of wrinkling of fingers and toes speaks to the likelihood that she has been immersed for a very short amount of time. >> testimony that samira may have died later than the prosecutor contends. >> the greatest possibility is that she died after 8 am. >> in other words, after doctor frasch had left the house. when dateline continues. when dateline continues. uld be using the wrong detergent. and wasting up to 20 gallons of water. skip the rinse with finish quantum.
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turn, from the prosecution's theory of how samira died, to her story of her husband's confession to a jailhouse snitch, adam frasch was ready to fight back. the high powered defense team picked but frasch in part from a life insurance payout he received after samira died. hyle did he pay for his defense in this trial? >> it's not relevant. >> is it, because insurance paid out, right? which is unusual in a case like this? >> i mean, he had money, you can see the picture of his lifestyle, he had assets. >> the tailors started with this video. 8 am, his daughters leave the
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gated community, if samira was killed after this, adam did not do it. >> there is a huge problem with the timeline, that is reasonable doubt. >> the timeline presented by the prosecution was in fact quite vague, the emmy who did the autopsy testified it was impossible to say how long summer of been in the pool before she was found. that was a worry for the prosecutor. >> usually we get a window of maybe 2 to 5 hours for a time of death, so it is not precise signs. but we weren't able to do that in this case. >> the defense aggressively leapt into the void arguing that evidence could establish a time of death. >> it was performed about 3000 autopsies -- >> they brought in their own pathologist. doctor ardent focused on three things to show when samira
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died. first, recall mortise had not set in. next there was no of the tail tell skin discoloration that occurs soon after death after blood settles with gravity. >> but was the last factor? >> the rankings of the finger and toes. >> finally samira's fingers and toes were not wrinkled when she was found, not even a little bit. >> the absence of wrinkling of the fingers and toes speaks to the likelihood that she has been immersed for a relatively short period of time. >> even if you take a shower or a bat or jump in the pool, sometimes within 20 or 30 minutes, you have wrinkling of the fingers and the toes. >> even if you're dead? >> period. >> no rig more it is, no settling of blood, no wrinkled skin, it all pointed to the same thing. >> my opinion, she was dead for a relatively short amount of time before she was discovered and removed from the water. >> would you say mrs. frasch
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died before after 8 am? >> i would say the greatest possibility is that she died after 8 am. >> do we know exactly what happened? who knows. the state really wasn't specific with their theory. >> for the defense? this was a case of when? not what. >> it was after he left, there for, everything else is irrelevant. >> but, there was more. after listening to the science, the jury heard from an eyewitness. >> i decided to go for a walk. >> he is the neighbor who said he happened to be walking past the house that very morning. he was a mild mannered, measured witness but his testimony was explosive. >> what did you observe? >> i saw a woman, african american, tall, dark hair, thin. >> is there any doubt in your mind that you saw a slender tall black woman loading something into a vehicle in the
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driveway? >> no. >> between 10:25 and 10:45 on the 22nd of february 2014? >> there is not. >> he was very specific on his time, he and his daughter were walking by the house, they often looked at the house because there were all sorts of cars parked there, he looks down, he sees a vehicle by the garage door and he sees a tall slender black female who looked like a model entering her car,. >> when they showed him a photo of samira, he couldn't say for sure that was the woman he had seen. but if it was samira in her driver around 10:30 that morning it would give adam an airtight alibi. >> he couldn't specifically identify that person as miss frasch, but everything else about the description fits. >> this was a big deal. the prosecutors knew it. this was a credible person, right?
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>> yes, i think he was wrong, i don't think he was lying. >> of course you think he was wrong, but he thought that he was right. he was pretty certain. >> he was. >> the neighbor had credibility, not a quality said the defense possessed by adams sale made, dale fulsome, the jailhouse snitch. he is a witness that the defense loves to hate. we love niches, don't we? tell me what you know about this particular one. >> he is a career criminal, started with his first convictions in 1990. >> in court, attorney taylor the father went right after fulsome, he did not spare the rod. >> it's my understanding you have was it four or 40 prior felony convictions? >> 40. >> 40? >> yes sir. >> do you have any pending charges? >> i have one. >> what is that pending charge? >> possession of methamphetamine. i've done almost every drug there is, i've been an attic
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since nine years old. >> give me a break. this guy was outrageous. >> what was more, fulsome had an arrangement with the prosecutors. he was released from jail on probation in exchange for his testimony about frasch, tailor made sure the jury knew all about that. >> isn't it true that you will do anything to stay out of jail? can you raise your hand and swear to say nothing but the truth, so help you god. because your truthful guy. >> most of the time, i try to be. >> when you're writing bad checks, stealing from people and doing drugs? that's all i have judge. >> the defense may have destroyed the messenger, but they still had to deal with his message. fulsome story
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>> no. >> just touched dna? >> correct. correct. how convenient was that? >> so convenient according to the defense, but it was downright suspicious. >> lo and behold here comes fulsome, he has his story and the law enforcement guys go out and what do they find? they find the magic golf club. planted evidence, no question in my mind. >> investigators in frantic li denied any wrongdoing over the gulf club. but in the end, all that who have about the club was possibly a red herring, because the states own medical examiner
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testified that samira's injuries were not caused by any golf club. >> do you think that that purple golf club could've been responsible for the injury that misses frasch received? >> i don't think so. the pattern that she had was more diffused. in >> your opinion or the injuries more consistent with a fist than a golf club being the instrument used? >> yes. >> so that was that. the states case had taken a very big hit. so it was no time for grand gestures like defendant testimonies. >> you have a desire to testify, is that correct? >> doctor frasch remained mom, and it was with an air of confidence that the defense rested. unaware that in a case full of surprises, there was one more to come. coming up. the first surprise, the speed of the verdict. >> when they came back quick i
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thought it was going to be good news. >> the second surprise, a new revelation that could turn the case upside down. >> that was absolutely stunning, and we were like, what are they talking about? >> when dateline continues. teline continues
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duckduckgo is a free all in one privacy app with a built in search engine, web browser, one click data clearing and more stop companies like google from watching you, by downloading the app today. >> the trial of adam was a duckduckgo: privacy, simplified. closely contested affair. the verdict very much in the balance. the lawyers had one more chance to make their case, in closing arguments. clyde taylor the third would take a seat and let his father speak to the jury. >> he's one of those guys that thinks closing arguments is where you win or lose a case. >> we don't convict people because a crime is horrible, we don't convict people because they have a lot of money. we don't convict people on speculation. >> taylor returned to the medical evidence and his
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argument that samira died after her husband left home. >> what proof do we have? that she was in the pool before 8 am? no concrete evidence of that. none. scientific evidence says no. the defendant is not guilty in this case. >> prosecutor had the last word. >> all of the evidence points not to a mystery killer but to this defendant. this was a personal crime and who had the motive to kill this woman? only one person. >> she spoke to the evidence but passions were not far from the surface. and that she laid there on the concrete, fighting for her life, the man that she trusted to make her dreams come true put her body in that pool. please render a verdict of
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guilty as charge. >> and then there was nothing left to do but wait. >> it's always troublesome when the jury goes out, sick feeling until you get your answer. >> how worried was she? >> pretty worried. i mean, the neighbor in the time of death bothered her. >> both sides settled for a long wait, but just 90 minutes into deliberations, word of a verdict. >> i thought they would be out for a while. when they came back quick i thought it was going to be good news. >> i thought just the opposite. i thought they would be out for a while. but when they came back that quick, i thought it was bad news. >> as they all waited for the words. faces were anxious. >> state of florida versus adam frasch, we find the defendant guilty of first degree murder. >> guilty. frasch stared blankly and dropped his head under the
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weight of the verdict. how did doctor frasch take it? >> hard. he was believing in the jury system. >> on the prosecution side, gratitude. >> i was really happy with the verdict. it was a combination of a lot of hard work. >> please be seated. >> but was that the final word? after the verdict, a surprise, before the judge delivered the mandatory sentence, life in prison, no parole. >> for us the samira family -- >> she read a letter from samira's family, written in madagascar. >> this was not a typical impact statement, it included something that was evidence. >> according to samira, she had noticed the presence of someone crawling before her death. >> the jury had never heard about prowling, and neither did he. >> that was absolutely stunning.
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was there something -- what are they talking about? the defense never had been advised that there may have been a prowl or in the home within the day or two of the death. it has to be disclosed under the law. >> prosecutor accounted that she didn't withhold anything, the letter was written in french and sent out to translation, she only learned what was in it when she read the letter in court. >> as for adam frost? he will spend the rest of his day behind bars. when you understood that you were going away for life, was that like? >> i pray to god, you don't give me anything more than i can handle, but this is almost more than i can handle. >> so, let me just ask you directly, did you kill your wife? >> no. i would never harm my wife. i loved her more than anything in this world. >> you loved a lot of women in
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your life? >> she was my first true love. >> love of your life? >> love of my life. >> frasch is unwavering about that. convicted murderer who still saying he is innocent and misunderstood. >> i'm not saying i'm perfect but, you know, i'm trying to live a good life and help people and enjoy life. >> as for those two little girls who samira pampered and promoted and loved, they went to live with adam frasch's brother, in a state far away. an existence that was untroubled by conflict and no longer over the top. >> her children are her legacy. i hope one day to have the opportunity to tell them that they had a great mother. >> do you see mommy? >> her youtube videos are still
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online, of course on kilo bull artifacts of her broken dreams and a life that was passionate and beguiling and brief. >> i'm craig melville. >> i'm natalie morales. >> this is dateline. >> he was definitely charismatic. >> he was the new kid in town, super popular, all about adventure. >> this kid was like awesome. >> he jumped right in the culture. >> he liked to show off to the girls. >> they were the neighbors, just down the block, of family in fear. >> they had their vehicles broken into, she was scared. >> someone had been sneaking into their home and now someone was in their garage. >> i'm

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