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online, of course on kilo bull artifacts of her broken dreams and a life that was passionate and beguiling and brief. >> i'm craig melville. >> i'm natalie morales. >> this is dateline. >> he was definitely charismatic. >> he was the new kid in town, super popular, all about adventure. >> this kid was like awesome. >> he jumped right in the culture. >> he liked to show off to the girls. >> they were the neighbors, just down the block, of family in fear. >> they had their vehicles broken into, she was scared. >> someone had been sneaking into their home and now someone was in their garage. >> i'm sitting there panicking,
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he's coming after me. >> in a flash, it was over. >> that charismatic kid dead on the floor. >> fits -- it was terrible, i think i screamed for an hour. >> what happened in that garage that night? >> it was the last person that would come to my mind. >> a neighbor protecting his home or preparing a trap? >> makes the statement it's showtime. >> it showtime? >> exactly. >> a teenager, a father, a murder, no one would be the same. >> we were all taken aback. >> welcome to dateline. he came to america as an adventurous exchange student, but he took one risk too many and it cost him his life. was his death a case of a homeowner protecting his family and property? or something far more deliberate. here is josh mankiewicz with
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deadly exchange. >> it's a dilemma that confronts every teenager, how to simultaneously fit in with your friends and rebel against everyone else. that two step is made easier by the knowledge, maybe the certainty, that you will live forever. >> kids do dumb stuff all the time. sneaking out of the house in the dead of night to meet other teenagers to drink, party or just hang out, that is nothing new. usually teams sneak back home, safely. this wasn't one of those times. >> i thought it was some kind of joke, i just couldn't believe it really. >> i was freaking out. i was like, it can't be, it can't be. >> it was april 2014 when to bright foreign exchange students living in montana slipped out of their house. >> he's lying face down. he's barely breathing. >> minutes later, their amazing
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american adventure came to a sudden and tragic and. >> and where she bleeding from? >> everywhere. >> it was horrific. >> no one ever knew that he would die. >> it was the worst thing that could've ever happened to us. >> it all began so differently for him, a dream come true, he was an exchange student from germany. excited to soak up anything and everything american, at 17, he had landed in a special corner of the west, montana. >> he was definitely charismatic. >> dana, anna and chance were three of his closest friends at sky high high school. >> he was way different than all the other foreign exchange students at usually come, he was really outspoken and outgoing and he jumped into the culture. >> he wanted to do everything that there was to do. >> and he was a terrific
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athlete? >> yes. >> it was no coincidence that the teacher who recruited him to big sky also happened to be the school soccer coach. >> he just gets it done, and when he played that ihow he played. the guys were immediately like, this guy is cool, about us. >> he was a stocky kid, liked to lay people out. >> he was tough, for sure. he threw down. >> according to his friends, his soccer skills and his good looks definitely helped him with the opposite sex. he was always talking to girls,. >> a man of the world. >> the other soccer girls always said that he would never miss a chance to take his shirt off and run around the field, they knew that he was going to put on the show. >> he lived with his host parents, randy and kate in the
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prospect neighborhood, a subdivision of missoula. >> it was -- he was such a terrific kid, you could see it right off. >> he called you mom and dad? >> he did, he really became our son, no doubt about it. >> but he was more than just a fun kid, he was engaged in the world's, this was not your typical american teenager, wants to talk about sports stars and maybe the latest fashion -- >> no, not at all. >> would you think about the situation in ukraine, you know? >> by the end of the school year in 2014, he had a solid circle of friends, he was tightest with another exchange student, this one from ecuador, robbie. >> we had so many things in common, the same personality, with the same wishes and dreams. >> they were a package deal. >> you see one, you will see the other? >> yes. >> saturday april 26th 2014 was
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no different, the boys spent the evening playing video games and listening to music in randy and kate's basement. >> i went down, 10:30 or so that night, told them crank the music volume down a little bit. >> but around midnight, he was bored, restless and suggested he and robbie take a walk. >> and i was kind of like, i'm really tired, come on, okay. >> so while kate and randy slept upstairs, robbie and him slipped out the back door for a walk around the neighborhood. they headed up the nearby hill and then turned to this road. then robbie said he walked into a different direction, robbie lost sight of him. >> i said he is not coming, i continued walking. robbie said he called out to diren dede, so he kept walking figuring out diren dede would catch up. >> that is when i heard someone
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yelling, you're there, i see you there, something like that, after that just the shots. like three or four shots. i started running. >> gunshots in a quite, residential neighborhood. and now terrified robbie ran back home. >> he was faster than i am, i said he is probably coming. i was sure that he was coming. >> but diren wouldn't return and what happened to the german exchange student would simultaneously make headlines around the world, and get americans asking, how far can you go to protect your home and family? >> coming up. >> 9-1-1, what are you reporting? >> a robbery. >> an urgent call to 9-1-1. >> somebody entered into our garage. shots were fired. >> when dateline continues. when dateline continues
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hour old. when the sound of gun ricocheted from the prospect neighborhood of missoula, montana. >> 9-1-1, what are you reporting? >> a robbery. >> what's going on? >> somebody entered into our garage. shots were fired.
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>> a robbery was rare in prospect, but a shooting was unheard of. dashcam's captured the chaos of first responders racing to the scene. >> stop! >> it was all happening just a few hundred feet from where foreign exchange student diren dede lived with his host family. >> i woke up with a start, heard for loud pops, fairly close together and a pause and another bang. >> randi heard the sirens and got out of bed. >> i went downstairs to make sure i could lay my hands on robbie and diren. >> he came downstairs with me and said where is diren? >> he said he did not know. >> he didn't know? >> i thought that was weird. i looked into the room and didn't see diren, and i came back to him and said what is going on?
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where is diren? >> robbie fest up, and diren i had sneaked out, he said how diren had walked out by his own. and then robbie said he had heard gunshots. the three of them went to the road. how far is it from your house? >> 80 yards, directly above, next street above our house. >> this was a neighbor's house? >> a neighbor's house. >> when they there, police stop them. >> we were just hoping diren would walk out, somewhere, show up and come out the door. >> i walked up to the police officer gave a name and a description and that's when she went, wait here for a second and then came back and said i think you guys need to go to the hospital and that it was not good. as soon as she said that i thought, gosh, we just passed
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an ambulance running up there, he must of been in the ambulance. >> what happened on that quiet street? did diren and robbie stumble onto a robbery in progress, or some violent home invasion? the police asked robbie to answer some questions. while caden rushed to the hospital. >> it wasn't long after we got there that the er doctor explained that his wounds were fatal and he was no longer alive. >> terrible feeling? >> it was horrible. i went outside the hospital many times to scream. we lost our son to. sorry. >> when they brought us to identify his body, it was horrific. looking at his beautiful body, no longer complete.
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it was terrible. i think i screamed for hours. >> diren dede would never make it to his 18th birthday. >> i thought it was a joke, i said there is no way possible, nothing like this has remotely happened to me or anything in missoula growing up. and so, it was obviously a shock. >> it was the last person that would come to my mind, i guess. >> diren soccer coach assume that whatever happened to his star player it wasn't a diren's fault. >> i'm trying to imagine, did he go to a party, get shot by another kid? was he downtown missoula and got into a scuffle? i didn't understand it. >> what did happen? police on the scene quickly concluded only one person was shot, the intruder mentioned in that 9-1-1 call. >> who got shot? >> the robber. he's badly injured. >> okay. he entered your garage and who
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shot him? >> my husband. >> and cops quickly learned something those who thought knew diren well could scarcely imagine. diren wasn't a random innocent victim. the young exchange student was the apparent opposite. he was the burglar. >> it's like somebody trying to break into your car right now. >> police were about to hear a story from the man holding the gun that night. a story of terror and a family under siege. >> and we've been sketched out, we don't feel safe, i'm on edge about everything. >> two frightened homeowners victimized, two times before, what had happened inside that garage? coming up. >> i'm sitting there panicking, he's coming at me, when dateline continues. dateline continues (shane) don't use spray paint. cpr is not mouth to mouth. it's mouth to stoma. (shawn) be very careful shaving. (announcer) you can quit.
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>> hello, markus. the >> home owner was markus kaarma, kaarma and his common wife law janelle pflager had just moved to missoula, they were looking for a quiet, safe kid friendly place to raise their child. police spoke with janelle and recorded their top with kaarma at the station. >> we want to talk about what happened tonight at your house? >> the couple told investigators the story actually began with a burglary three weeks earlier, and then just ten days after that the burglars returned. >> somebody has trespassed their vehicles and in their garage which was unlocked. >> cash, credit card and a cell phone were taken. the couple filed a police report, but the burglaries remained unsolved. now, markus kaarma said he feared that they were being targeted. >> we have been living in fear
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and it sucks, and to know that we are being watched and targeted and knowing how hard it is for you people to catch a burglar with no evidence. >> they said they no longer felt safe in their own home and were terrified that they would be robbed again. >> we have been sketched out, we don't feel safe, i'm on edge about everything. >> the couple even emailed their neighbors to warn them about the strain of burglaries, and to suggest everyone lock their cars and garages. having someone burglarize you, is a terrible feeling, it leaves people feeling violated and angry. >> yes. i would agree. >> that's not uncommon for people to be upset and extremely vigilant after burglary? >> i would agree. it is not. >> more time that pass the burglars were at large, more fee for markus and janelle became, in part because he was a seasonal firefighter and would have to travel for work soon. leaving mother and child alone for months. >> she was scared that markus
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was going to be going off on a seasonal employment soon, so kaarma told police that his wife decided to put together a homemade security system that would warn them if another intruder showed up. >> she has motion sensor one, motion sensor to. >> she had placed a baby monitor on the east wall of the garage. >> a video baby monitor? >> once the alert sounded to that motion detector, they could see what the baby monitor could see. >> all of that was connected through a smartphone app. so when the motion sensors were triggered, an alert would allow them to view live video of their garage. that saturday night, kaarma they were trying to relax after putting their son to bed. >> had recorded the movie lincoln, we were watching that, about a third of the way through that, i'm not sure with the time was, we went outside had a smoke in the garage, like
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we always do, we usually leave the garage door open to air it out. >> but five minutes later, an alert from the motion sensors, someone was in the driveway, an intruder. perhaps the same one who had targeted them before. these photos are from the home security system, that is diren entering the garage. markus kaarma said he grabbed a loaded shotgun he had for protection. >> i'm sitting there with the shotgun, i'm staring at the lock at the front door and i can't tell if it's locked or unlocked. and i'm starting to shake at that point, the adrenaline is coming like, oh my god, these guys came back to the house. >> kaarma said his wife stayed back while he went to the front door and turned to the garage. >> a few quick steps around my front, i saw where my truck was parked, pretty much [inaudible] that's where i stood, and then she flipped on the light.
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>> he told the detectives, he was blinded by the sudden light and realized the only way for the intruder to get away was to go past him. and then -- >> i heard something move like a piece of metal hit the summoned, either that or a metal hit a piece of metal, it sounded like either a metal ranch being picked up or axes. >> so markus kaarma said he did the only thing he could to protect himself. >> immediately, i fired high up into the right corner of the garage. here i am looking at my garage, i think four rounds were shot. all directly one, two, three, four. >> if i live in montana, what right do i have to shoot someone who has entered my house? >> you have the right to use any force necessary in defense of yourself, but no greater force. >> okay, but i mean, this was a burglar who had broken in, you
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don't know who he is, you don't know if it's someone -- they have crossed that invisible line from outdoors to indoors and they are by that definition alone a threat to me. >> you have to be able to articulate the threat. >> and kaarma told investigators there was a real threat, the garage was full of tools the intruder could grab and use against him. >> i imagine, and acts flying through the air hitting me in the skull. >> he said that he was positive he heard the scraping sound just moments before he fired the shotgun. >> i'm describing the sound, when i'm picturing in my head is i'm going to die. >> to hear markus kaarma tell it, he had faced down a threat, it was kill or be killed. and that was just the final word. >> the young soccer star who was in the morgue must of had a darker side that many did not
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see. detectives decided to dig deeper into the lives of both diren dede and the man who shot him. what they learned would only deepen this mystery. >> coming up. >> true or false, false diren was committing a crime? >> true. >> but was diren the only one -- >> it showtime. >> exactly. >> there would be anger and astonishment on both sides, when dateline continues. eline continues. . despite treatment it disrupts my skin with itch. it disrupts my skin with rash. but now, i can disrupt eczema with rinvoq. rinvoq is not a steroid, topical, or injection. it's one pill, once a day, that's effective without topical steroids. many taking rinvoq saw clear or almost-clear skin while some saw up to 100% clear skin. plus, they felt fast itch relief
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committee, they quote wanted her to do the right thing in her interviews, it was initially shown anonymously during the hearings on tuesday. now back to dateline. teline welcome back. i'm craig melvin. homeowner marcus carmen told police that he was living in a state of fear. his answers raised more questions. what really happened in that garage? and, what was he doing there in the first place? to find out the truth, they needed to learn more about their german exchange student. here, again, is -- make a wets. >> when he was killed in a neighbor's barrage, exchange student diren dede was just two months away from returning to his family in germany, men who shot and said he feared for his life. robbie, they did enter the
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garage to seal. as you described, diren wasn't the first kid and missoula to sneak into a mcgraw xi's. the kids were after money and valuables. the stuff up happened often enough that had a name. garage hopping. the target was usually deer. >> the reason for garage having and garage shopping was for kids to go in and find alcoholic beverages if they could go in and take. >> until that happened, it wasn't on please radar. >> now. >> these three friends of diren said that they had not gone garage hopping, but they know all about. >> you know people who do it, or have done it. >> yeah. >> they know it's illegal? >> yeah. >> but it seemed harmless. >> yeah, exactly. i mean, they're just like, hey, dude. it's a way for you to get some extra beer when you are on a saturday night.
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>> did you think that there was, you don't know how dangerous that could be? >> but no one knew. no one would ever, ever ... there, like no one would shoot you. >> bobby had said that diren had done it before, but never took cash or valuable property. >> he wasn't a criminal. he was a kid. he was a kid trying to have fun and being the group, do it difficulties do, trying to be part of them. >> wasn't really that innocent? true or false. diren was committing a crime. >> he was. >> entering someone's home, even their brush, that is a crime. >> yes. >> even at the doors open. >> yeah. >> if kaarma's life was threatened, he had the right to shoot. didn't he? as placement over kaarma's story just before the confrontation, something stood out. kaarma was explaining someone
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was approaching their garage. >> she was like, showtime. it was like, i see something. a flashlight. >> he says she makes the statement, it showtime. >> showtime. suggesting what? they have been getting ready for this on the? >> it seemed like a very interesting statement. to me, it showtime. >> it didn't seem to fit with someone claiming to be terrified in his own home. then, kaarma told police, he took his time going out to come from the shooter. >> i set up off the coach and slowly walked over towards the front door. she's like, hold on. hold on. >> all of which might make you wonder. with all that time to think, why not just stay inside, lock the doors and called police. >> i think the easiestance of ty call 9-1-1. >> and while kaarma said he feared for his life, police
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found no weapon, no tools near diren's body. the teenager was unarmed. >> another red flag. kaarma said he can see into the garage. the cops talk to the doctors who treated diren. they examined the shotgun patterns on the wall. >> he said, he can't see anything. yet, he's able to track a moving person in the garage. he hits into it four times. >> one, two, three, four. >> i don't believe he was randomly shooting from right to left. >> you're thinking to yourself, this is not look like a justifiable shooting. >> no. it looks like he is a deliberate homicide. >> the tierney's office agreed. detective baker gave the news. >> so, we just talked to prosecutor. she wants you to be taken into custody. so, that's what's going to happen. >> for what's? >> for homicide. >> what? >> seemingly stunned.
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kaarma for the detectives home phone to phone general. >> i'm being charged with murder. >> no. what is that? deliberate homicide. >> it's how the statute reads. >> he was surprised. >> yeah. he was surprised. he was very emotional that point. that's the most i saw marcus be emotional during this whole investigation. >> diren's whose parents had a tangle of emotion as they process what they said police have said happened. >> not the kid we knew. >> they were disappointed with diren's actions but livid with kaarma's. >> i just got more ingrained were angry that that happened. i mean, who thinks like that? >> just that, why? it was the why at that point. why would someone feel compelled to do this?
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>> markus kaarma faces a deliberate homicide charge for killing a 17-year-old german exchange student. >> many were outraged that a homeowner could be arrested for defending his property. this is a crime reporter from the missoula. >> some people were like, of course we can shoot someone in our home. that was at the very beginning of the case. i received a lot of angry phone calls from people. a lot of people were afraid that this would intrude on their own rights to protect their home with a gun and their own gun rights. >> the german press also followed the story closely. their take echoed the thoughts of many in this country. that diren was the victim of an american cowboy culture that glorifies gun violence. >> and they were really incredulous that somebody could just shoot somebody for coming into their house. they just didn't understand how that worked in montana. >> but this is america, not
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germany. aren't you allowed to protect yourself, your home, your family? was even that on trial new? dogma and kaarma we're about to collide. coming up, battlements are drawn. the revealing recorded. >> then i heard the kid yelling, no, no, no. please. >> did diren plead for his life? when dateline continues. dateline continues. bundled your home, auto, and rv insurance with progressive. you saved money and you get round-the-clock protection. so don't worry. it's all under control. [ screaming continues ] that's cool. we'll finish up here. bye! [ roars ] [ screaming continues ] that's why you go to the restroom before the movie starts. get epic protection for your dominion with progressive. eight months after diren dede's
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death, markus kaarma went on trial, seeking -- to montana courtroom. where they were befriended by the same group of kids who have loved their boy. >> a lot of us copper chance to meet his parents when became fraud. there really, really awesome. they were a lot like diren. >> the parents watched as the man face the charge of delivered homicide. kaarma's defense, team headed by paul ryan, that was outright excessive. >> was a man who is fearful. >> ryan laid out a basic narrative. markus kaarma, twice a victim of burglars, reasonably thought diren dede was another one. and dangerous. >> he thought he was dealing with drugs seeking type individuals that were erratic and who knows how they were going to respond. >> he told the jury that his client had reason to leave that
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diren dede was armed and ready to attack. >> because he felt his life was threatened by the movements, specifically, of mr. diren dede, he had to take the steps, unfortunately, to take his life. >> the danger of a burglars when there's a confrontation. they all want to escape. they will do whatever they can to get away. >> the defense said there was no debate over one central fact, diren dede went into that garage steel. on the stand, kaarma's lawyer got bobby to say that despite warnings, diren dede didn't see much wrong of grad shopping. >> he didn't feel it was a crime. >> you are warning him. you are telling him. it was reckless, dangerous, right? >> yeah. yeah. i understand this way. he maybe didn't understand. >> in fact, the defense suggested that diren was part of the local berkeley ring that was stealing more than just beer. and may have been behind the
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previous break-ins at the kaarma house. >> they all knew each other. they all went to big sky. >> defense attorney ryan argue that the police never really investigated those burglaries at kaarma's house. with no arrests, his client was left in a fearful, agitated state. a psychiatrist who examined kaarma diagnosed it as high magnitude stress. >> your body changes dramatically, as far as how you are reacting to think, fight or flight. while some people may have retreated or call the police, whatever. he came forward and confronted the individual. >> he can't control it. his body went into fight mode. >> the defense said that kaarma felt threatened in his home and was it within his legal rights to shoot. under something called the castle doctrine. >> the legislature has made decisions that it should be easier to protect yourself within your house. you may or may not like the castle doctrine. i never actually like the law,
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the judge doesn't either. but you have to follow the long. >> defense attorney reince insists that markus kaarma was guilty of nothing more than perfect checked in his family. >> this is your house. you defend it within your house as you choose to defend it. >> by the time the defense rested, those closest to diren dede thought that markus kaarma 's lawyers had redefined what this case was about. >> who diren was kind of got lost in this. >> a lot of the things i heard about him sounded like some foreigner who came here to stir the pot and make trouble. actually -- >> a commit crimes. >> right. >> and to prosecutors, the real criminal in this case was markus kaarma, who was, plain and simple, a murderer. >> the fact is, the defendant was angry and vengeful. he knew it was a kid coming into his garage. it is 12 gauge in his hand.
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he waits. >> to counter the defenses suggestion that diren was some ring of thieves targeting markus kaarma, investigators track down the teams who had hit's garage. the ones who checked the cash, credit cards, and -- >> we had a bong and ajar voyage and smoke a hole. >> did you know a man named diren dede, not personally. no. >> chief best supernaturals, he involved in a burglary? >> no. >> so, did kaarma really fear for his life that night? prosecutor said, ballistics told the story. the first shot that hit diren, was to the back of his left arm, meaning, he couldn't have been charging towards markus kaarma. >> and then he has to do it one more time. he has to make that final blow. >> and the final shot was straight to the head. prosecutors weren't down. they had, but they thought, was
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explosive evidence. just before the trial began, a recording surface. made the night of the shooting. of a conversation an officer at the scene had with janelle. in it, she reveals that just before the final shot, she heard diren back for his life. >> and then i heard the kid going, no, no, no, no. please. and then, by then, there is already a shot fired. >> and the prosecution said after the shooting, kaarma sounded like a man who is proud of himself. >> there's an article online already. and the comments are only in your favor. >> really? >> and this is a jailhouse phone call between kaarma and his wife, talking about the news coverage. >> why is he being charged? >> why is even arrested? >> hey, tomorrow morning, well you, by 100 copies or something of the paper? >> why did you say, hug? >> dvr, records the local news
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marcus kaarma's defense tried to paint a man exercising his rights when he shot an arm arm teenager. no, it was the prosecution's turn to convince the jury that he was a man bent on revenge. and they had four witnesses who they thought could show kaarma's actions in a whole new light. here is michael woods with the rest of the deadly exchange. >> markus kaarma was on trial for killing an unarmed teenager in his garage. the prosecution was going to argue that not only was the shooting unjustified, it was planned, premeditated murder. to prove it, they put the defendants wife janelle pflager on the stand, as a reluctant key witness. janelle told the jury what the
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defendant had said all along. you are living in fear of intruders. >> literally, every day i was a paranoid person. i was looking over my shoulder all the time. very worried all the time. >> so, why did they leave their garage wide open on the day the shooting? especially after they had warned their neighbors to keep their garages locked. janelle said they smoke cigarettes in the garage and wanted to air it out. >> i believed it would be my right to have my garage door open to arrow for a few minutes at a time. >> the prosecution argue that janelle and her husband opened the door because they were setting a trap. janelle denied it, but admitted she deliberately left her purse in the garage with items in it that could be traced back to her. the prosecution said that was bait. >> you wanted to catch them
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that's why you left the purse. >> the purse was for them to take the they went come into the house. so i could call the plays and say, here is something traceable. >> so, an open door and a person plain sight. the prosecutor said janelle and her husband set the stage, and waited and watched. so, when diren wafted, they weren't scared. they were excited. >> she was like, showtime. >> on the stand, janelle denied saying those words. >> do you remember saying, showtime, when he saw something outside? >> no, i don't remember saying the. [inaudible] >> in court, janelle change her story over what she heard in the garage that night. now, she denied that diren had been play pleading for his life. >> then i heard the kid yelling, no, no, no. please. >> your testimony here today is
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that you never heard him say the words. >> i got the feeling that janelle didn't do you a lot of favors in the witness stand. >> she denied saying something that could be played on tape. >> right. janelle talks a lot. as a defense attorney, that often that doesn't work out very well. >> janelle wasn't charged in the case. >> why wasn't janelle charged in this? >> and her statement to the officers, she wanted to catch the burglars. she wanted to identify them. >> prosecutors said they had evidence that janelle was going to harm someone. >> so what was markus kaarma thanking? they brought into witnesses to support the argument the shooting was nothing short of a planned execution. >> he said he'd been sitting up for three nights with a shotgun, waiting to kill some kids. >> she works in the salon where mark kiss kaarma pat's haircut just days before the shooting. the woman said kaarma came in
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ranting about recent burgling's aunts his chilling plan to fix them. >> i did to say to him, oh, my gosh. have you called the police? >> while the police won't do anything about in. and then he had mentioned that he wouldn't mind of a couple to come by. he wouldn't mind killing a couple of them, also. >> he was gonna kill them. take care of it. >> did you use those words? take care of it. >> i think it was, dickson. >> do you recall him saying anything else? >> he said, i'm not kidding. you're gonna see this on the news. i'm not kidding. i'm not kidding. we're seriously going to see this on the news. >> it's intent to kill. right? he is announcing it. >> he's lying in wait. >> he's telling them, you wait and see. and you see this on the news. >> that is a defense attorney's nightmare. >> yeah. >> testimony that your client
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told someone, i'm going to commit this crime. and then later charged with that crime. >> correct. >> as the trial came to an end, diren's friends gathered to support the visiting parents. >> we came to support them on the last day. we filled up the stand, or the seats, with how many kids. >> it became a memorial for darren. more and more showed up. we felt more and more loved by missoula than we ever have. just because they were trying to show support for us. >> jurors had to consider the law and nothing else. here's how the prosecution laid it out. >> the issue in this case, what the defendant believed at the time he shot and killed diren dede. was that believe reasonable? was the deadly force used necessary? that is your issue. >> jurors want to deliberate.
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after eight hours over two days, they returned to court. >> we the jury find the defendant, markus kaarma, guilty. >> the courtroom erupted in applause and in tears. while they say the verdict was really, diren's host parents still feel the rap parent grief. >> nothing brings diren back. it's just heartbreaking that someone felt compelled to do this. >> which should be host to another foreign exchange student? >> no. my heart is too broken. couldn't do it. >> two months after the verdict, markus kaarma a jury's addressed diren dede's family. >> a check another man's life. i'm sorry. i did what i felt was necessary to protect my family and myself. i hope that no one ever funds
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and solve in the situation was placed in. >> the judge sentenced him to 70 years in prison. >> i almost wish he never said sorry. it was so empty. his face had no expression. it was scary almost. we were all taken aback. i was like, take it back. there was no meaning in that. >> they say garage hopping is no longer popular. >> have attitudes changed about all that since then? >> of course. >> i haven't heard anything about it since. >> it's unheard of. >> now it is? >> yeah. >> diren's friends help that people won't forget the one deadly mistake he made. and instead, the bright, charming guy they loved. >> you know, you are all pretty and to go through this. do you feel like this has changed you? >> yeah. >> one hunted percent. yeah. everything, every day you think, obviously, something the fact that happen. and you would do things that
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matter. >> life seems more precious now? >> it's encouraging us to do a lot of things. i think is still pushing us. >> that is off at this edition of dateline. i'm craig melvin. thank you for watching. welcome to the show. and zerlina maxwell. the supreme court this week and to determine that will likely go down in history as one of the most consequential and most destructive ever. this hour, we'll look at all of the repercussions for some of its far reaching -- including immigration, and reproductive freedom. we start by taking a step back to consider our country is different now from when

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