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right now, two weeks of seismic supreme court decisions, starting with the reversal of federal abortion rights, have left americas political fault lines even deeper. on the one side of the divide, our blue states, racing to codify the abortion rights. and offer safe haven to women who may now have to cross the state lines for the procedure on the other side. on the other side is mostly red states, that have already seized upon this moment to ban abortions, with some conservative lawmakers in those states contemplating punishments for those that seek the procedure elsewhere. it's not just an outright national ban. of course roe v. wade's reversal was just one

overruling of the by the court's conservative majority. -- guns, the environment, and voting rights, that illustrate just how conservative the supreme court truly is. by all accounts, will be for sometime. is america being remade by these rulings? that's the big question tonight on politicsnation. and another big question. just how damning was this week's bombshell hearing in the congressional january 6th investigation? as a former white house aide recounts outrageous behavior by donald trump on january 6th, nbc's reporting that some donors may finally be backing away from trump, as a growing pack of republican challengers looks to take him on. all that tonight. joining me now is congressman

troy carter, democrat of louisiana. congressman, we appreciate you joining us on this holiday weekend. i spend usually, the first time since the pandemic, i'm back in new orleans for the essence festival. >> welcome back sir. >> thank you. since we are here, and it has national ramifications, let's get to your state supreme court battle over voting rights. but i have to start with our escalating abortion rights fight but i want to get into that. but have to start there. as states continue to wrestle with last month court overturning roe versus wade, this week a district court in the person of a judge in district court blocked your state, right here in louisiana, blocked your states trick ban on abortion from taking effect.

as abortion providers in states, the state has filed a lawsuit calling the ban unconstitutional. for now, abortions continuing in your state of louisiana, but how are democratic lawmakers in your state preparing to for what comes after? >> unfortunately, my state happens to have one of the most egregious abortion laws. one that has been triggered. thankfully, we have a district court judge in new orleans, that is halted that for the time being. the legislature is ultraconservative in louisiana and has passed several, going back all the way to 2006, several very agree, just very damaging laws as it relates to reproductive freedoms on the rights of women to choose. we will continue to fight in

the u.s. congress, but as it relates to the louisiana legislature, unfortunately the votes just aren't there. >> congressman, i want your response to another of the supreme court's decisions this week, to reinstate your states republican drawn congressional map. -- found the map to be racially biased, in violation of the voting rights act. the supreme court's decision also blocks the lower courts ruling that a second majority black district need be drawn in louisiana, with november midterms elections looming, anything i'm missing here congressman? >> we are missing basic math. the supreme court is missing some basic math. if you look at simple math. african americans make up 33% of our state. we have six members of

congress. i happen to be the only african-american democrat by just pure math, and reapportioned numbers, the growth of african americans in louisiana clearly didn't know that we should have a second seat, that an african american can elect someone of their choosing. two thirds of six is gonna be two, everywhere you slice, yet we only have one. for the supreme court to act in this way as they did with roe versus wade, removing the precious right of a woman to choose, and now denying african americans the right to choose a second member of their choice, clearly [inaudible] >> this is the same court, i just want to emphasize, this court, with the 6 to 3 conservative majority, -- this matters.

not only are we dealing with roe v. wade, we are dealing with cases right here in louisiana, where the population with call for at least two black populated districts. we are down to one. congresswoman, i want to get your reaction also to the death of delivery driver jalen walker earlier this week, shot and killed by akron police, and akron, ohio, after a car chase and on foot pursuit. walker was fired upon nearly 100 times, more than 60 shots hitting his body. the akron police department maintains that walker posed a threat to its officers. still unidentified officers are suspended. i want to get you to view this in line of the case that the fact that you have cases right in louisiana that you have had to deal with police brutality.

as we have dealt with police misconduct, missed police killings, over the last several months, how do you react to what we are hearing in akron, ohio? >> horrific. it is horrible to see yet another young black man shot down like a hunted animal. louisiana asked for -- after the apparent cover-up in the ronald green case. yet here we go again. another case in another part of our country where black male is shot, multiple times, like a virologist animal on the street. we are trying to do something in washington. we have passed the act to make sure george floyd will never be just another name. it now waits on action in the u.s. senate. we codified roe v. wade to make it a law. it sits and waits in the u.s.

senate. we have to make sure that people know elections have consequences. we have to demand that the other side listens. if they don't listen, we have to make this november an absolute, an absolute case where everybody goes out and votes and demonstrates that the supreme court seeks to take our rights away, we will remove them with new legislation, with new members of congress, with new members of the senate. >> if that message is not set, it will continue as business as usual. i think that if people are angry, they need to vote their anger. thank you congressman troy carter. you congressman troy thank you congressman. joining me now is jaime harrison, chair of the democratic national committee. mister chairman, you are here in new orleans, you addressed

the essence festival this afternoon. i addressed it after you. vice president harris is addressing it this afternoon. thank you for joining me. i think it is safe to say, the recent events have gotten, it is given democrats a lot to campaign on and against. between the continuing revelations coming out of the january 6th probes, which i will get to later, and the past two weeks of controversial supreme court rulings on climate, on guns, and of course the reversal of roe v. wade. it's widening impact. it is easy to assume that national outrage over the courts recent rulings will inevitably translate to turnout in november. but how does the dnc and the

party sees this moment? i'm hearing a lot of people saying we haven't seen anything, nothing is coming to us, one of the democrats doing? they're beating up on us. they're taking away our rights and where the democrats? >> well rev., i think you said it perfectly. what we are seeing is the full frontal assault on american democracy and the freedoms we enjoy in this country. i know that so many of us are angry. i was angry after the dobbs decision came down, when it was, leaked and then when it came out, it felt like it was a gut punch. what we've gotta do rev. is tap into that energy and tap into that anger and channeled that into real action. it is very simple. the steps that we have to take in order to codify roe v. wade, in order to caught a voting rights and so many of the things we have been fighting for four years, because we are seeing for the first time in my lifetime actually taking away

right from millions of women across the country. the court, with clarence thomas, signals that this is just the start, so what do we need to do to take the steps to get our rights back, to solidify the rights that we do have. it is a really five steps. the first thing is we have to organize. that's with the dnc has been doing for well over a year and a half since i've been chair, putting boots on the ground. we've gotta register votes. for the first time in 20 years, the dnc is registering voters across the country. we have to mobilize those voters, get them to vote. once we get them to vote, our next step is we have a large center, if we can get two more senators in the united states senate, and keep our house majority, -- on a federal level in a state level, in january we, can begin to codify roe, we can get voting rights done unapproved in this country and push back against this radical, ultra

maga, right wing attempt to take away our rights. we've got to be just as relentless in terms of protecting freedom and protecting our rights just as they aren't taking those rights away from us. >> and we've got to be speaking that on the ground so people will understand that the democrats are standing for something, if they're gonna stand for that. earlier this week, the president called on congress to and the senate filibuster, to pass abortion rights legislation into law, something we wanted him to do around the george floyd bill and the john lewis bill. he conceded yesterday that democrats do not have the votes to do so, so they need to deal with the filibuster law. the filibuster rule. that's important because you have moderate democrats in the senate who continue to support the filibuster, despite the thought of blocked many democratic priorities. i have asked this queson

before. as wapproach midterms and 2024, at what point does the party make the filibusters removal part of the platform? a determining factor in what ultimately trying to send to washington? >> well we know that the leader of the set to, chuck schumer, has been pushing and pushing hard. he had a vote up in terms of the filibuster on voting rights. right now the d sc has been working hard in terms of the recruitment and candidates running from the senate. we've got some fantastic candidates that i know will do the right thing. people like sherrie beasley in north carolina, -- federal men in pennsylvania. we've got some great candidates who are running hard. and we know that when they get elected, in those states, and we need to keep warren knocking --

make sure that the john lewis voting rights bill gets done, and that is why it is so important. folks have to understand this rev.. fighting for democracy, and protecting democracy is not something you just do in one election. it took republicans 50 years to really chip away roe v. wade. we've got to be just as relentless. we cannot give. up we cannot say just because we voted in one election, that's, it i can take a break. because the other side is not taking a break. and we can't either. >> they took some losses in those 50 years but they never stopped and they never turned on what they want to. mister chairman, voter advocates are alarmed in arizona, that's goes there. they are alarmed that the supreme court ruled this week. in a conservative majority 63

opinion to a poll state election laws that have some critics have called indiscriminatory and in violation of the voting rights act. with one law rejecting ball x ballots tasked in the wrong precinct, the other restricting anyone but family caregivers from turning in another person's mail-in ballots. with the court set to take up another controversial election case out in north carolina, what's your reaction to this ruling mister chairman? how are democrats handling all the new voter restrictions republicans that put in place for this election cycle? well rev. since i've been chair, we've been fighting in the court system to fight back against. this we've had a case in arizona where dnc suit against the efforts that really hurt native american communities on the way in which they vote. when you are out on the reservation, you are not close to the election precincts, so

you need folks to gather the ballots of elders in order to get them to the polls and make sure that their voices are heard. we are gonna continue to do. that we have put aside millions of dollars to fight in the courts. but, folks bottom line is this, we have built a larger voter protection team that we have ever had at the dnc. we started doing that last year rev. we have to trainees on the ground and all of our battleground states ready and willing to push back on these republican efforts to strip or way our rights to vote. but the bottom line is this. the voters the at the heart of this effort. that's why the republican is taking the stack. they want to diminish the vote. they understand they cannot win on the merits of their arguments. the merits of their policies. but we know that we have to get people and localized them and get them to the polls. that's why we have to get more people register to vote. that is what we are focused on right. now we need to make sure that we have the bodies and the state houses in the governors

mansions, in the house and the senate in washington, d.c. to codify the john lewis voting rights act. it is the most important thing we can do between now and november. >> dnc chair, jaime harrison, thank you for being with us. after the break, a war of words in texas. an outrageous suggestion shows just how some are willing to go to silence discussion of race in the classroom. and abortion rights advocates fight back. find out what's being done to mobilize valoras after the supreme court's reversal of roe v. wade. but first my colleague cory khalil often with today's top news stories. >> thanks. here's the top news stories we are watching at this hour. right now we are learning the u.s. has approved a package of more military aid for ukraine of 800 and $20 million. that includes new surfaced air missile systems,

counter-artillery radars to respond to russia's heavy reliance on long-range strikes. this comes as russia launched dozens of missiles across ukraine and pin down ukrainian forces with fire, sometimes icing hours at a time. many americans are set to travel for the 4th of july holiday, even with record high gas and inflation rates. ford car travel will set a record, as an estimated so -- nearly ten people pandemic levels. flyers across the united states are experiencing hundreds of canceled flights in a few thousand delays on friday, kicking off the holiday weekend. also record number of airports screenings, almost 200 a half million, that's number before the pandemic. and tropical storm collin has blasted to coastal south carolina and headed to north carolina. impacting travel and celebrations this holiday weekend. according to the nation's hurricane center, collins

heaviest rains in the strongest winds were along the carolinas coast on saturday morning. those heavy rains caused his still be expected to the weekend. more politics nation with reverend al sharpton after the break. nati wonit reverend al sharpton after the break. welcome back to politicsnation.

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let's bring in my political panel for their insight on today's big topics. i'm joined by susan hill pressure, republican strategist, and juanita -- democratic strategist. susan, let's start with former president donald trump. it's hard for me to be shocked by anything about the former guy. but this week's former this week surprise testimony by the january six committee described from throwing plates in the

white house, took things to a whole new level. and some republican insiders are saying they finally had enough. nbc news reported quote, though many republicans aren't watching it in aren't likely to be received believe its findings, they say, the hearings are still creating all welcome pressure, leading some mega donors to say, aliton anonymously, that they are backing away from trump. unquote. do you think january 6th probe is hurting trump in any way past scandals have not? do you think this time it's hurting him? >> i do think it's hurting him. not in a direct way. but rather that his supporters, the ones that you mentioned, who were one-time supporters, they have had enough. and there are certain things. yes the throwing of plates which is really easy to reimagine trump doing, and maybe the story about him trying to reach over and grab

the secret service agent, are really kind of salacious, but the fact that he knew that people were armed, and going to the capitol armed, and he did nothing, it's something that really shakes people to the core. >> not only did he not do nothing, he knew it was clear he knew they were armed, he told them to march over there knowing they were armed. he told them to march over there any meet would need him there. >> that's absolutely right rough. that's absolutely why this testimony on tuesday is so important. because right now, even the republicans who say their vote for trump again, they've had enough. and not only that. they've had enough of trump talking about. it every time there's a hearing, donald trump find something to say, and he pulls themself back there and having a discussion that people don't want to half. so what it does is that it makes people want to move on.

donald trump want doesn't want to move on, but as people do, so they will. i think it hurts him in that regard, because he is stuck in 2020 and he isn't going anywhere and people are looking to 2024. >> juanita, yesterday florida's don't say gay bill took effect, severely limiting what teachers can say about sexuality and gender to students in kindergarten to third grade. some teachers say they will even than asked to remove pictures of same-sex spouses from their desks. meanwhile, in texas, we learned that the state board had pushed back on a proposal to slavery as quote involuntary relocation, that's what they said, in voluntary relocation and quotes. as educators try to conform to a new law that bans teaching subjects that with make

students feel discomfort. how do democrats push back on this culture war that is going on in our schools? >> take it beyond calling it a culture war, and name it for the erasure and discriminatory harm that of this. call out republicans for its effort to erase lgbtq people, erase black history, american history, that happened. this full, utter rejection of truth has become the premise for the gop in everything that they are doing in putting forward. naming it for what it is, and then pushing back on, not only through elections, but organizing around the school board hearings and meetings, so that more and more people can speak up in realtime, because we know republicans are gonna keep doing this even if they're checked by the courts. we saw with the book bans, we are seeing it with the anti lgbtq legislation, also in the

way these legislative pieces are being deputize, or allowing parents and other people to be deputized as the reporting parties. it's not even -- it opens it wide open with this don't say gay bill for any parent to say oh my child is uncomfortable, and now they get the file a lawsuit against a teacher,, schooler school district. -- same with the antiabortion legislation. i think framing it for the republic, to erase the -- the this is the republican push to erase marginalized communities, to harm marginalized communities. this is the republican party rejecting reality yes again. >> with and to say let's not talk about slavery, let's not talk about lgbtq, let's not talk about women, i mean we are

heading to let's only talk about white male landowners. >> name it. >> susan and juanita, let me pose this to both of you. and i want you to answer quickly if you could. the legal battle to ban abortion in many states is underway now that the supreme court has overturned roe v. wade. this week judges and florida and kentucky blocked abortion bans from taking effect. but supporters of abortion rights faced an uphill climb with dance and restrictions on what way in at least 22 states where they're going to be. there's been some debate on how far abortion opponents in the republican party will go. and whether they will be content with dance in deep red states, or will they push for a nationwide? susan first your take. and then we go to you juanita. >> what [inaudible]

president biden will veto that. so that won't be the biggest challenge. if i was a democrat right now, and i was trying to make abortion rights an issue, i would go into the red states and go after the register legislatures on rape, incest, and the life of the mother. try to get a win. similar to the way we got a win on gun safety. you have to start cracking it open a little bit, so you can continue to move forward. if you show that there is an opening, there is more hope and i think that will rally people together and bring a message that this is such extremism that when needed was talking about, that not even in rape, incest, or life of the mother, can these people see fit to let her woman controller body. >> juanita? >> look rev., i agree with you

susan as far as the strong small winds, but i think that democrats need to fight and go down swimming swinging if that's how it's gonna pan out. i hear democrats talking about -- but there still actions that can be taken today, in conversations that can be taken today. president biden already talked about the filibuster, which he doesn't have the votes for, but making sure that women half protections -- to get care right now, -- so that federal funds could be used for the transportation, housing, and calling on an expansion of a supreme court that has made it explicitly clear that they're going to go for other protections in our basic autonomy in our basic privacy. expanding the court should absolutely be something that democrats are talking about right now that we know they are steering clear of rev. the need to stop operating from a place of fear and start talking through action. even if they lose, taking that action shows voters you are

fighting for them, and shows that you will keep that and injured xi when you get those two additional senators. >> they have already taken women's right to choose, they have already said out loud they're going to go after lgbtq rights, voting, rights and other things that go back to states rights -- what do you have to lose if they've taken everything? you need to fight to make sure they don't cement would've taken. juanita, susan, a lot to leave it there. thank you both. still to come, how the supreme court's reversal of roe v. wade threatens more than just abortion rights. threatens more [ screaming ] [ growling ] shh. nice and quiet. hey! look! it's your mom! hot dog? [ growling ] abortion rights.

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to new reporting conducted by all and together at emerson college. as midterm election season heats up, how does this outpouring of emotion for abortion rights translate into real political action? joining me now to discuss that is the founder and ceo of the nonprofit all in together. thank you for joining us. let me get right to it. president biden said on thursday, that he would support suspending the senate filibuster to codify roe v. wade into law. you recently wrote an op ed for elm agonizing, titled turning grief and rage into power and progress, where you write that quote, we need a long game and quote. codifying roe versus wade, the kind of long when you are referring to? or do you think democrats also

need to be getting more involved in state level fights on this issue? >> absolutely. all of the above. part of why we are where we are is because republicans have taken this fight to every level of the political infrastructure over the course of 50 years. it really started with the rise of ronald reagan, the political power of the christian right in the 80s, this is been a steady drumbeat. while republicans have done very successfully is to look at every lever of power in our political process, not just the court system, but also state politics. at the state level, democrats are under representative at the state legislature. even in states that are supposedly all red, they are underrepresented. in states such as texas and -- democrats didn't even feel candidates. that is just an of

responsibility. it is just irresponsible. ultimately, part of what we found in our polls this week, is that democrats are really motivated. the coalition of voters that helped get the democrats the majority in 2018 and the white house in 2020 is that coalition of black voters, young voters, especially young women, democratic women, and independent women. that coalition is gonna be essential. >> the challenge with that coalition's turnout. and new research suggests that says trump significantly improved his standing with women, specifically white women in 2020, as more women women voted for him in the last election than they did in 2016. with that in mind, how do you believe the supreme court decision to overturn roe versus way it's going to affect voter mobilization against women for this year's midterm election?

does this really change anything for the women who sided with trump in higher numbers in 2020 than in 16? >> i think that is hard to know at this point. our poll stephanie show that -- those reliable, democratic voters, even among independent and suburban women who swing at the margins at times, this is an intensely galvanizing issue. we pull poll voters in december, and then again this week, and among young women it was a 26 point increase in the intensity to vote because of this issue in the midterms. democrats do tend to wind up winning and small margins, and that incremental increase in turnout, especially among younger women, could blunt what has been the advantage that trump's hat among white women and particularly white republican women. that turnout is potentially the game-changer here in the midterms. we are also seeing an intensity

of voting for democrats. another measure rat, in the first 24 hours after the dobbs decision, -- has reached $20 million.24 hours. there's no question this is galvanizing. >> all right lauren leader thank you for being with us. just ahead, the high cost of inflation for black communities and what can be done to address the issue. can be done to addres the issue.

as we continue to cover the supreme court's decision on abortion and the january six committee hearing, i want to remind viewers not defunct that about britney griner, the star who is still incarcerated in russia after marijuana products were allegedly found in her

luggage at an airport in moscow. the trial began on friday. she's facing a possible ten years in prison. the state department said last month that griner is being quote wrongly detained, and they are working to get her released. i am one of many americans were deeply concerned about the fate of this young woman and the slow pace of efforts to bring her home. i interviewed her wife, brittani's wife cherelle on my radio show this past wednesday. she had this to say. >> the public pressure you know, to let them know that you know, brittani matters, we're never gonna shut up about this until she's back, we're never going to allow them to take their precious time because every second that goes by, bg is struggling. >> we cannot allow the case of

britney griner for her to be used as some prop by volodymyr putin. we want to see her released. we want this united states government to do with it can and there should be no swapping deals, that does not include britney griner we are going to stay on this we in the civil rights and faith communities her having a lot more say in the next few days about freeing britney griner. we'll be right back. y griner we'll be right back.

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inflation is at a 40 year high. many black and brown americans are feeling squeezed. report from the new york fed finds these communities are the hardest hit by rising costs for just about everything. the study goes on to warn the economic ripple effects could

erase recent gains that have been made in reducing the racial employment gap. join me now is alfonso davey, president and ceo of the global black economic form and former chief of the civil rights bureau of the new york state office of attorney general. alfonso, let's start with the basics. why does inflation hit black and brown communities so hard? why were efforts to fix it lead to job losses for some vulnerable communities? >> read, first, thank you for having me on your show. it is a pleasure to be here. if you see in the background, i am currently at the essex vegetable of culture, where i had the privilege of introducing a segment, where the vice president of the netted states was speaking to a large group of people about issues that are affecting black and brown communities all across the country.

as udder relates to inflation, i think you are right. like most economic downturns, including the great recession or the pandemic, black communities are disproportionately impacted. what this means is that black communities are spending more money on basic necessities, such as food and lodging and energy and transportation. it is not just about increasing gas prices, it is alal an increase in rent and the cost of food. your question is, so why are black and brown folks spending more? it is really because of the wealth gap. the fundamental reason why inflation is disproportionately harmful to black communities is because of the wealth gap. there are studies that show why's households have more than $800,000 in net worth and then black households. this requires creative solutions. >> political reports the july 4th cookout is expected to be 17% more expensive than last

year according to a recent survey. president biden, as we argued gas prices increase in the united states as part of a global problem, do you agree with the president? if so, we'll are the right steps to deal with, if you have a group that is really dealing with this? >> i just recently took on this weekend, the role of president and ceo of the black forum global. what we are doing is looking at systemic problems affecting the black diaspora. we are working with business experts, entrepreneurs, activists and consumers globally on the leadership, corporal entrepreneurial ship developments, advancing social and economic justice for martinez communities. we have a global academy for advancing excellence. we recently acquired the center for workforce excellence. that is a country that has been in business for more than 20

years, providing consulting, executive coaching, it multimillion dollar company that we just required. you can find out more about what we are doing at www. the -- it is not just one solution, there are multiple we need to implement here. we are dealing with systemic problems. we are talking about redlining practices and barriers to access the capital. >> as we talk about black communities worldwide, my thoughts turn to our nearby neighbors in haiti. the island nation has been devastated by economic problems and political upheaval, causing many to flee, including the young and educated that represent the country's future. i, myself, have met with haitians trying to escape to this country seeking a better life and learn about their harsh treatment in the hands of our border patrol. what are your thoughts about this situation, since it is global, the group you lead?

>> rev, the point that you are making, unfortunately, is not something unique to haiti. we only had to look what we saw in ukraine, where we saw black people being treated differently, even though they have lived in ukraine. we are seeing the same thing with haiti where our immigration policies, unfortunately, have been discriminatory. we had to not only look at policies on paper fair, but we have to make sure that they are implemented in a fair way. >> alfonso david, thank you for joining us tonight. we will be watching this group as it fights this economic issue. we will be right back. s economic issue. issue. and forms an antibacterial shield. try parodontax active gum health mouthwash.

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