more than 90 rounds fired by police. adding that he is worried about how he will people react the footage. police are expected to hold a news conference in the next hour. protesters have been counting the last few days and protests are expected this afternoon. the attorney who has seen that video says that walker's body was riddled with bullets. i will speak be speaking with that pastor in a few minutes and the walker family lawyer in about half an hour. george -- joins us. police are claiming that they found a gun in walker's car that he fired at them. >> yeah, cory, and so far there have been more questions than answers in the shooting investigation of jalen walker. there is hope that the release of this body cam footage will hopefully answer a lot of these questions. there is that fear that many will not like what they see once that video is released. >> say his name! jalen walker! >> anger and frustration only expected to build this morning in akron, ohio.

>> no justice no peace! >> police expected to release body cam footage in the shooting jalen walker this afternoon. >> the public has legitimate questions, i have questions. >> the 25 year old was killed by police last monday following a car and foot chase. police say that walker shot at officers during the chase, later finding a gun in his car. the family attorney says that -- seen the v and there's no evidence for those claims. >> but -- reloads and full clip and all him within six seconds. >> coachella says that officers fired more than 90 shot, striking walker more than 60 times. walker's cousin has also seen the footage. >> i broke down after that. it was just, it was just shocking. >> police said walker posed a deadly threat starting with the refusal to comply with the traffic stop. the pursuit ending in a parking lot where walker was handcuffed.

>> he's talking a shot, as we get shot he falls on the ground. he is not cuffed in till after the gunfire abates. >> is there any chance of the fire that he fired at the police officer standpoint. >> i don't know, i didn't see anything like that. that is where we have to allow the investigation to play itself out. >> black people account for 27% of those fatally killed by police last year. protests could turn violent, leaving the city to cancel july 4th celebrations. but the family calling for calm. they want to be peaceful but we need answers. they want accountability. 's police department has said that they have put those officers on leave, administrative leave, and expecting release of that video sometime this afternoon. we will have to wait and see what that reaction will be. >> we will be following this closely with you, thank you so much george fillies for reporting and starting us off this hour. joining us now the pastor of second baptist church in akron.

thank you so much for your time, for being with us. now, this video has not yet been publicly released but you have seen. it police elsewhere you saw and what stood out to you. >> well, first of all, thank you very much for being a voice with us in the voice of so many. i've seen the entire video and i can only liken it to, perhaps, another george floyd or emmett till type of shocking experience of a young black male body riddled with bullets and fire and heat over six seconds or so. -- >> now afghan police are claiming that walker fired a gun at them, there been some questions as to that account. what are you hearing on that front? >> i have seen the video that the world is about to see in minutes.

i have seen none of those claims. actually, i saw the opposite. that he was running away from the police and not causing any visible threat as he was running away. -- and ferociously shot like an animal over 6 to 7 seconds. so, i saw the video we're all seeing. he is moving away from the police and not -- in any kind of way. >> now walker's family has also seen the video, in addition, calling for accountability and justice. they're also calling for people peace. they're worried about how the city will react. have you been in touch with them and you know what they are hoping for with the release of the video? >> i have been in touch with, not only the family, but i am in touch with the city. with these peace-loving

christians, i'll turn the camera so you can see everyone. [inaudible] >> as you can see, this is not audience of black people and christians that love justice. we honor the police, but we honor justice more. we are here and we will be watching -- we will soon, because we are concerned about agents of peaceful and dignified is the young man once. he was peaceful and dignified and intelligent, we will do the same. >> i really appreciate that perspective that you just showed us with everyone in the community catherine. on that note, you have called on 60 passwords pastors representing 60 bullets to show up the protests today. let's listen to what another local pastor said, yesterday. >> i have got to say or accurate male mayor has done an efficient job. i don't have a problem with the

police, i have many friends and i honor and respect them. sometimes we make mistakes. the concern is, why didn't tasers work. our concern is, why so many shots? our concern is, why every officer has to shoot? >> we want the truth to come out. we don't want any camera flash and should it be that something in those guys did something wrong? we want them to be held accountable. >> now, are you and your fellow pastors in close communication with the city? if you are, do you have a sense that officials have been forthcoming here? >> we are very close to the community, both pastors and the community itself. we have been walking side by side. i sense that we are not trusting here, the system. we have 400 years of distrust.

but we respect the rule role of the officers -- we are trusting. we cannot and until they demonstrate that they are trustworthy, then we can trust them. i have to be -- for the community for the afghan community. we are not trusting. then you turn the trash, we're not trusting them now, but we are a man demanding that they are accountable. >> i want to thank you again for your time this afternoon. pastor roderick pounds we will be closely following developments in akron with you and we will check in again as soon as we can. i want to remind viewers that the press conference with authorities in akron's expect to be out at the top of the hour. we will bring that to you, live. i'll be speaking with the family's attorney, as well. that will be at the half hour. make sure to stay tuned for that, as well. >> we want to take a look at the top political stories we

are following for you today. that's beginning with the january 6th investigation. new stark comments from one republican member of the house committee saying the justice department should not avoid prosecuting donald trump in relation to the capitol attack, if warranted. while it may be difficult for the country, the alternative would be worse. >> i think it's a much graver constitutional threat if the president can engage in these kind of activities and, the majority of the presidents party looks away. or that we as a country decide we are not actually going to take our constitutional obligations seriously. i think that is a much more serious threat. >> plus new reaction today from the biden administration amid growing calls for democrats to act on protecting abortion rights. -- secretary javier cell telling todd easier said than done. >> i think we are beginning to

explore everything that's out there. the difficulty is, simply because it is an idea doesn't mean it can go out into practice. but we want to make sure is that we can put it into practice because we have people who are, right now, in need of abortion care services. we are going to do all we can to give people something as quickly as we can. and even if i may not be everything they like. >> also new today national security council's john kirby is defending president biden as the president faces backlash for a tweet urging gaslight companies to lower their prices amid a busy travel weekend. >> the american people are facing paying at the pump, clearly now with over $5 a gallon. the president is working very, very hard across many fronts, mike, to bring that price down. if everybody cooperates on this we can bring the price down at least by about $1 a gallon. so, he's working very, very hard to do this because he knows the impact that gas

prices have on the american household. >> i want to go now to and msnbc.com -- who is at the white house forest. how is the administration facing that growing pressure that we're talking about coming from democrats to do something about abortion rights? >> they are certainly a lot of pressure, the meeting on friday president biden met virtually with several democratic governors. kathy hochul for example asking for more support, for more protections on federal lands. that's something that the white house shot away from committee to but they have to ask the 80s s with ramping up access to medication of abortion, for example. protecting the right for people to travel state to state and make for that state governments can't ban that interstate travel if someone needs to seek an abortion. they are also working on some other options, as well. they've updated their patient privacy data protection guidelines the other day, also saying that you basically can't -- the health care system can't at specifics on if and when a

patient goes to another state to get abortion. there are a lot of state small actions that the white house is trying to support and the hhs is trying to support. i want to hear more from secretary becerra about what he says is the solution. >> yes, we are going to explore everything we can. i also would ask that -- a lot. they have it in their power if they can find the votes to actually codify roe, the roe decision, which is what we need more than anything else. we will find ways to make sure that women exercise the right and that women are protected. it is just not going to be easy. the fastest route is to reinstitute that writes that women had. >> now, the hiccup with that fastest route is the fact that they don't have the votes in congress right now to codify roe v. wade, even with biden saying that he would support carving out the filibuster to make sure that happens. that is why we are seeing this continued division between americans across the board, we will continue seeing that

leading to the midterms. we are already seeing a push in fund raising in messaging from democrats voting to elect a majority to the house and senate come november, because otherwise, as biden warns governors on friday. if republicans take over majority they would pass a federal ban against abortion, making that more permanent. this is just something that we are going to see over the next three months leading up to the midterms. >> those for sure and even more questions coming to abound with this attempted patchwork of laws being put in place, lauren thank you for checking in with us on that. new pieces of the january 6th puzzle are being fanned. what one committee member says that her -- bill on a talk show says that there may be more surprises ahead. ahead. when you have technology that's easier to control... that can scale across all your clouds... we got that right?

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hill for us. ali, congressman adam kissinger says, more witnesses have come forward. >> yeah, cory. quite a few january six committee members on the sunday show this morning, really making a splash of news this holiday weekend. one of, them republican congressman adam kissinger saying that since haugen soft money on tuesday, no witnesses have come forward, quote, every day. listen here. >> it happens every day. every, day we get new people that come forward and say, hey, i didn't think maybe this piece of the full story that only was important, but now that you guys are -- like, i do see this place in here. but yeah, i mean, look, she is going to go down in history as -- i mean, people can forget the names of every one of us on that committee. they will not forget her name. >> of course, hutchins that has come under fire sensitive testimony on tuesday, with several anonymous secret service agents coming forward and disputing part of her testimony. congressman kinzinger really

defending her testimony, calling this essentially expected and normal for these former members of trump brought it to come out and to speed them, challenging those disputing her story to come forward and testify under the committee under oath like she did. cory, also, numbers were also asked about those messengers of possible witness intimidation that we talked about yesterday. congressman adam schiff, who also sat on the committee said, anybody telling these messages a possible witness intimidation should be prosecuted by the justice department. another topic on the sunday shows this morning was whether there should be a criminal referral for the former president himself. the committees top republican liz cheney asked about this on abc. she said, one of this was all said and done, when the investigation is over, when these hearings are over, the committee may come to an agreement to send criminal referrals, possibly more than one, to the justice department for president trump. she said that it wouldn't be necessary for the committee to do so because the justice

department can go ahead and get to that themselves. and then, asked whether she is concerned whether it will create a division, this decision to do this. what sort of division it will create in the country, she said that it would be quote, a much graver threat to not prosecute trump after laying out the evidence that the committee has presented in these hearings, the. cory >> yeah, this presents a lot of caution about what the department can ensure do. so, let's bring in melissa moreno. by the way, ali, thank you so much for that wrap up. this is -- she is also now and where you are professor, and msnbc contributor. welcome. in have you heard anything in cassidy hutchinson testimony that would tell you that this could be used to secure an indictment against donald trump, or would you rather characterize her testimony as one that offers possible leads for further investigations? >> well, to be clear, cory, it's really important to stress the differences between congressional testimony and criminal prosecution. both requires foreign testimony under oath. but again, congressional

testimony and congressional hearing is not the same as a criminal trial, so the proof is going to be different. you are going to require much more. that said, what's she discussed in her testimony really does help to flush out the questions of whether the president knew or had reason to know that the violence at the capitol, how it was incited, what it was intended to do, to really give more context to that mental state of the president at the time all of this was unfolding. many of that various criminal statutes that are being contemplated, as possible lines for prosecution, require some evidence of a criminal intent here. i think we got a lot closer to getting a clearer idea of what the president intended through miss hutchinson's testimony. yesterday the washington post editorial board wrote this, quote, we can no longer avoid criminal investigation into donald trump. they went on the say the justice department has investigative powers that the january six committee does not. as you mentioned, critical can questions remain.

you just touched on that, but lay out some of these critical questions for people following these hearings. >> again in the criminal prosecution, the prosecution has to establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. that is a very high standard. possibly high, in some cases as we've seen another famous criminal trials across the years. that said, the -- has it -- as you say. he could have more of an opportunity to probe some of these questions. some of those critical questions is whether or not the president intended for all of this to unfold, whether not he had some duty to act. but they're not his words exacerbated the violence. if he indeed corral the mob to go further and do things that were criminal and would challenge the integrity of the electoral college, indeed the -- there's a lot to flesh out. again, the washington post editorial makes it clear that some of the staff is a matter of politics. it also sees that some of this

is a question abroad, if is it clear that something is afoot here, do they have an obligation to investigate and bring criminal charges. >> is there clear and convincing evidence of potential witness tampering in your professional opinion? >> we have to know more, but i think one has been coming out about the efforts to stop people from testifying, the effort to perhaps intimidate people as they prepare to testify. if those allegations are correct, then yes, that would certainly suffice to constitute with this tampering under most federal statutes in the statutes of the most of the states. again, i think there's a lot here and more likely that will come out as all this unfolds. i think there's a lot to think about. >> just one compounding question that i can't seem to understand. why does the department of justice appear reluctant to prosecute mark meadows for defying a congressional subpoena? >> so, one, mark meadows is the

person was perhaps closest to the president here. the reluctance to prosecute mark meadows for failing to comply with the subpoena, i think also relates to the general reluctance or clear decision to proceed carefully and deliberately determining whether to prosecute the president. this could be seen as political gamesmanship. it could perhaps raise the political temperatures in a lot of ways. i think more importantly mark meadows offering some arguments based on opinions from the office of legal counsel not necessarily presidents of courts, but opinions from legal counsel that suggest that the aid to a president, even a close aide, is not required to provide this testimony. it is a kind of testimonial immunity argument that is supported by some opinions from the office of legal counsel. i think that is one of the reasons why the department of justice is treading carefully here because of those

presidents. because so much of this is unsettled. >> this talk of potential other witnesses coming forward to offer their testimony as well. is there something that needs to be even more solid than the testimony we heard from hutchinson order to bring charges moving forward? >> i don't know that it's necessarily that something needs to be more solid, but obviously the more people who can corroborate hurricane out and provide a firmer footing for going forward. i think these additional witnesses are -- her testimony to the extent that's -- heard parts of her testimony countersued hearsay. having individuals, including individuals who heard it firsthand would be very important. >> there is this talk that her testimony could potentially be a smoking gun, while others say that no, much of that was through a third party. it might be more difficult in that sense. all right, we'll leave the discussion right there. melissa murray, thank you for your time today, we appreciate

you laying that down for us. >> authorities nakano highly holding a news conference at the top of the hour show police body cam footage from the deadly shooting. we will be speaking with the family's attorney seen that video and calls it -- we stick around for that. stick around for that

>> now to today's other top stories. tropical storm colin, which has been bringing heavy rain and winds to the carolinas this weekend has been downgraded to a depression. all coastal warnings are canceled, and the storms conditions are expected to dissipate by tomorrow. the storm is still expected to bring some rough surf along the carolina coast. borders are advised to stay out of the water till tuesday. more areas of yellowstone national park and reopen to the public after major flooding forced evacuations, and damaged roadways two weeks ago. on saturday, the park north opened to visitors for the holiday weekend. over 90% of the roads have been restored. the remaining repairs are extensive and could take years

to complete. and, emergency rescuers have saved three crew members from a ship that sank in the south china sea. more than two dozen people are feared lost after the industrial support vessel broke apart and sank. while it was caught in a severe tropical storm about two miles south of hong kong. a challenging weekend ahead, as we get behind, us and still with us as nearly 50 million americans travel across the country for the 4th of july holiday. from airport delays and cancellations to record high gas prices, and severe weather along the east coast, and even some fireworks shows scrubbed because of wildfire fears. nbc's kathy park joins us from new york city where the big macy's fireworks show will take place tomorrow. kathy, tell us more about some of these challenges. >> well cory, after a long pandemic pause, demand for travel and celebrations have really come roaring back this weekend. but for so many, this holiday has been a real stress test filled with unexpected turns at airports, and rising costs. >> this 4th of july weekend is

off to a rough start. severe weather, giving us a shout, striking the northeast with heavy rain and flash floods. the storms only making the journey worse for the record number of americans driving or flying to their holiday destinations. >> our flight got canceled yesterday, so now we are hopscotching around to get around. >> the tsa reported nearly 2.5 million passengers went through airport security friday, the highest number since february 2020. that's just before the pandemic. >> the line at laguardia for the tsa was really wraps around the entire terminal where the back-check was. i've never seen anything like that in my life. >> road trips are kicking into high gear, too. aaa predicting nearly 40 million people will drive at least 50 miles from home this weekend, even with gas prices averaging around $4.82 a gallon. >> many folks didn't really travel much over the past couple of years, so this is the

summer they are going to make up for lost time. >> thanks to inflation, it's turning into a summer of sticker shock. the price of hotels, and airfare sort at least 14% from last year. and, july 4th celebrations or more expensive than ever. the basics for a backyard barbecue, including chicken, ground beef, checks, snacks, and soda, are all up, at least 13%. while fireworks skyrocketed to about 35%. it's not just added cost putting a damper on the festivities. potential fire risks in the cities out west have canceled fireworks shows altogether. but, one colorado town is turning to drones to keep their tradition alive. >> looks amazing. looks like fireworks. look at that. >> speaking of traditions, a 46th annual macy's fireworks spectacular returns on monday night. it will be complete with music, celebrities, of course, and a dazzling display of life. we learned that 48,000 effect

that will be launched from five different parks right. here of course, you can watch the show live on nbc. cory? >> all, right now back to our top story. we are expecting a news conference in akron, ohio, at the top of the hour. officials say, it will review body cam footage showing the killing of a black man by police last monday, and they will be releasing that to the public. bobby dicello is the family for the attorney of 25 you'll jalen walker. he has seen that video. he joins us now. bobby, welcome in. thank you for being here. thank you for your time. first of, all hell is the walker family doing, especially as the city prepares to make this video publicly? >> the family is close, holding itself together, and sharing time, crying, remembering all of the good memories that they have with their loved one, and they are right now at their home away from all of what we hope will be a very peaceful press conference. >> okay, so you say that walker was shot more than 60 times. police say walker fired a gun

at them. have you seen any evidence to support that? also, was he armed while he was shot? >> jalen was absolutely unarmed at all times that the officers were chasing him and shooting him. there was nothing found near his body or on his body, nothing found in his pockets, nothing anywhere around him or with him. as far as any evidence of a gun being discharged at officers, we've never seen anything about that yet. we anticipate that the police press conference scheduled soon will clarify or at least address all of that. >> now, there are reports that he had a gun, or at least police are saying that. would have a police told you? they mentioned a gun being in the vehicle? >> so, there was a vehicle that was found in the backseat of the car that had no bullets in them. we can confirm that at this point. that is all we know about the weapon. we know that there is a report from the video that they showed me that says i shot is fired. that was the language used,

shot fired. we have no evidence of a gun being waved at a car that we've been shown yet. that can happen at this press conference. we don't know. >> did you see that video, that particular part of the video, where you hear the audio, shot fired, during the pursuit? >> yes, we did see that video. it was provided to us. >> what did you see in that video? >> you only see the hands of the officer ripping the steering wheel as you hear him recorded the moment. there is no raise in his voice that sounds alarmed. there is no issue or description of him being pointed at, or any mention of a gun in anyone's hands. it's just that word shot, fired and it's a curious question that we are going to ask you have answered. what does that mean? where was this gun, and where was it supposedly pointed? >> what about the rest of the video? what did that look like? >> the rest of the video is the most brutal, terrible act of violence that i have ever seen in 22 years of being a trial lawyer, being a former prosecutor, handling different crimes. look, the family wants peace.

they want dignity, and they want justice. all they want is peace, dignity, and justice. they want akron to not burn today. they don't want the angering, kind of, disturbing images that you are going to see to set up a firestorm of hate or property damage. they want none of that. they want their loved one, jalen walker, to be remembered for the good young man that he was, and they want this process to sort itself out. so, we want to make sure that that happens for jalen. >> what can you tell us about jalen walker, the young 25 years? >> jalen was a young man who likes music, and he liked working. he worked for doordash at the time. he worked for amazon before that. he was a wrestler when he was a kid in school. he loved his mother and sister very much. he visited with them regularly, a quiet kid. no criminal record, no problems, not a troubled kid, as he was growing up. and, so we are all very, very

sad to see this good, young american leave us, and that's exactly the message here on the 4th of july that we want to send. he is not only a black american, he is an american. he is our neighbor, and your brother, and our nephew, and he is part of us, and we needed to celebrate his life today in a peaceful way. e needed>> we appreciate your t, today bobby, who is the family's attorney for 25-year-old jalen walker, and a reminder for everyone, we will be following this news conference that is expected to be held at the top of the hour, where akron police are expected to release that body cam footage. we will bring that to you live. and of course, mr. to tell our, we will certainly be talking to you again, to you again soon. we appreciate your time. >> thank you so much. >> well, it was an american experiment hatched 25 years ago, but now a case impending the supreme court could greatly threaten it. that's next. greatl threaten it. that's next.

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sounding the alarm after the supreme court agreed to take up a case next term that could have major implications in 2024. the high court will hear an appeal in a north carolina redistricting case that could give state legislatures power over federal elections. president of the brennan center for justice telling nbc news, it could be, quote, one of the most significant, if not at one of the most destructive cases on american democracy. joining me now, don calloway, democratic strategist, and founder of the democratic voter protection fund. -- msnbc political analyst, and it david jolly, sorry, excuse, me former congressman from florida, and msnbc political contributor. welcome into all of you. i want to get all of your reactions to all. this town, you first, how much does this concern? you >> it concerns me very much. it goes back to 2013's decision and shelby versus holder, which essentially dismounted section

five of the voting rights act. would you have after that, it's like cutting the grass. , now you have a lot of hedges tomorrow as republicans attempted to dismantle the rest of that one, man one vote, and idea of voting rights being consistent across the country for all. what this case is going to do, is take away state court's ability to review, redistricting, as it was set in place by these predominantly republican legislatures throughout the south. these supreme court, as it is currently constituted, even with the inauguration of the honorable ketanji brown jackson as, week will not have the ability to overturn, what we expect will be to conservative majority on upholding shelby, and extending into the state legislations to give them the final say in redistrictin not reviewable by state court. so, this will very likely be a disastrous decision by the supreme court, which will continue to erode voting rights and take away the effectiveness of the voting rights act of 1965. so, it's really bad. >> susan, your thought? >> well, i agree with don.

it is really bad. it's really bad because it comes down to this fundamental core value of, should everyone have a vote? shouldn't we be asking for more voter participation? taking it to the legislator makes it completely political, and it's basically letting the legislature pick who they want to vote, and who, whose folks they want to disqualify. i think it's absolutely horrible, and it very dangerous for the reasons that don brings up. when you look at the supreme court right, now how far are they willing to go? >> it leads me to ask, if every person would then have a vote. david? >> yeah, so the impact of this could be significant, and i do think that the conservative supreme court will decide this in favor of state legislators. e brief history of considing gerrymandeng ses is the federal courts have wrestled with, they even have jurisdiction, or is it simply a political question for the states? this takes it one step further, and says, in states where, for

instance, citizens have put into the state constitution that anti gerrymandering positions requiring geography, or some type of balancing test to outline of their drawing, the federal court, the supreme court, is now going to consider, canada state court even have jurisdiction over the state legislature? what that means, is that if you obliterate any state court jurisdiction, then yes, partisan legislation can do whatever they want, up until the limit of federal voting rights protections. this would be a huge partisan grab for likely republicans. but listen, either legislature, republican or democrat are going to use the power, if the supreme court gives it to them. an or >> now, this comes as dond trump is reportedly eyeing an announcement for another run at the white house. in a series of damaging revelations from the january six committee, and despite it, susan, what do you make of? that to think that the revelation from the committee and possibly an indictment may speed up that announcement? that way, if it does happen, he could frame it as another witch hunt to stop him from running

again? >> absolutely. i think that's exactly with the former president is trying to do. say, look, they are coming after me and my jurisdiction. they are coming after you. all donald trump has done is create division this, country and he wants the us versus them fight. the problem is, is that with the january 6th hearings happening, people are just wanting to get past them, even republicans who have supported donald trump. i shouldn't say not everybody wants to get past him, but republicans want to get past them. donald trump just wants to litigate the past. so, whether or not he goes up to the line, and says something or not, i don't know. but, i do not believe he will be the candidate on the ballot in 2024. >> certainly playing test you find out, okay, if then, i could do this. if this happens, and i can try that. the article goes on to say, quote, the timing would be extraordinary. presidential candidates typically announced their candidacy in that year before the election. kind of, immediate implications

for republicans seeking to take control of congress in november. trump, as an active candidate, would make it easier for democrats to turn midterm races on a referendum on the former president. some republicans fear that would distract from pocketbook issues that are given their party a strong advantage in congressional races. david, how bad with this before anyone else looking to run? this trump announcement, other republicans who have previously supported trump, now are hoping to have a platform themselves, so they have to step back? >> donald trump is going to plan an announcement for two reasons. one, vanity, secondly, strategy. the vanity, as he can not let cammack are the and mitch mcconnell retake congress and make the story about mccarthy and mitch mcconnell. he has to make republicans resurgent in november about him, so he has to jump in from the parade. that's vanity. strategy is because ron desantis lit, nipping at his heels. as soon as rhonda sanders is reelected in florida, for that

happen, all eyes will turn toward whether ron desantis is running. i actually think ron desantis is running. i think he is currently passing donald trump, and it's very easy for desantis after his november election. he can say, i'm running. i think trump should run, too. if trump wins that primary, i will support. tim >> that's an interesting perspective. i can see, don, you have something to say. here >> yeah, i've got to jump in here real quick. i've learned over the last two years of doing this. nothing to talk about the political spectrum here is wrong, but this is donald trump elongating his time to raise money. he does not care about the republican party. he does not care about the house of representatives. we saw how he treated the, speakers the republican speakers on his. what he cares about his opportunity to extend the grift. the moment he declares, or even insinuates, let's fire up that, tax law to fire up the coffers, and not started bringing money. and the trump brand, the trump business is deeply wounded from his for years, not great, not eight, but four years of fascist rule.

so, how is he making money today, as a business person, i don't know. i know the hotel here in d.c. just sold, and other properties are in jeopardy, so he's got to reopen the grift here as a way to raise income for himself and his empire. >> extend the grift, reopen the grift. i think you are going to have to trademark this. don, let me follow up with this. what about speculation of president biden running in 2024? there's been reports. obviously, traditionally, it would be expected, but there are no reports that he has been trying to sell it. what do you make of? that >> you, know joe biden, joe biden is still the man. as a democrat, and i am going to go down on that, you know, traditionalist thing here, and say, if joe biden -- until he says he is not running, joe biden is the man. he shouldn't have to sell it to anybody. because, electing a president, even weak president, or an unpopular president is a much easier task than generating name recognition new bus for a new candidate. if there would be a new candidate, it needs to be kamala harris. because, i see all of this stuff about the various

secretaries, and mayors, and cool kids up there learning out, and thinking with the president's weekend. but, the proper order, here and we will expect, is the vice president of the united states. >> i will leave the final word with you, don. i am shaking my head here with agreement, and we will bring you guys back here in just a moment. thank you for being here for these really important issues. stick around. don't move. also coming up, with a country so divided over so many issues, like abortion, and guns, can we still rally around the flag? just how patriotic are americans as we approach the fourth? a new poll has the answer. that, what do the findings really mean? we will break it down. really mean? we will break it down. at's easier to control... that can scale across all your clouds... we got that right? yeah, we got that. it's easier to be an innovator. so you can do more incredible things. [whistling]

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weekend, national pride in this country has had a 20-year low. a new gallup poll shows, only 30% are extremely proud to be an american. 27% are very proud. it's a volatile time into that u.s., with people still reeling from the pandemic, facing record high inflation, mass

shootings, and now the supreme court overturning roe v. wade. our panel is back with me, and we are going to make this a quick ones we are so much talk about in our last block. i want to ask you all your thoughts on this message, this holiday, this 4th of july, during such a challenging time for our country's history. david, i will begin with you. >> i don't think those numbers surprise us, and it should be a sad moment. i would should asked it's reflective in the fact that we no longer elevate aspirational voices to leadership within the country. we elevate voices that say they wanted to fight, fight, fight, and divide us. so, we get what we created. it should be a calling for us to change course. >> how about you, don? >> i think the great james arthur baldwin says, i love america more than any other country in the world, and for that reason, i insist on the right to criticize her perpetually. if we are going to improve this country, we have to start with issues, and criticizing, and putting those criticism into action about driving us toward a more perfect union. but, without the right to

criticize, we might see that reflected in that patriotism numbers. we never make positive change. i think the first part is missed, i love america. i love, is why we must continue to criticize. >> how about you, susan? >> i'm just hoping that looking forward this is just a time of healing. because, we were so divided under the previous president. we were a nation that could not come together to k fight covid, a disease that was non partisan. was it that, i think that broke a lot of peoples hearts, frankly, and i think we are looking forward to something to get us all rallied to gather. i don't think it will be our political, process, but hopefully it will be something else. >> yeah, just think of the humanitarian aspect of our existence just kind of reminds us that we need to bring each other together. that's where we find it most versus politics. if we could reject a little bit of humanity back into politics. don, let me ask you. this one president biden took office, that was one of his biggest rallying things, we need to work together. it doesn't seem to have happened.

despite that president's best efforts. what is going on? here >> you know, this is -- it's a process, the political process, as aided by the 24 hour news cycle and gerrymandering. all the stuff work together to create an environment, and ecosystem, that one presidential election cannot change. so, joe biden was a stabilizing amateur candidate when we had not seen him for the last four years, but he still inherited a system that is a product of a corrosive politics, and an ambitious culture, and a media culture, that we are trying to put together how to get past all of that. so, we've gone to a place now where these systems, particularly political and media, and entertainment, are so interconnected, but they are beyond the reach of one politicians ability to fix, even our most powerful politician. joe biden has not failed at his job, but this is a much bigger and more comprehensive ecosystem that we've ever faced before and that universal could've affairs. >> and david, quickly, your thoughts? >> i think historically, our

culture has defined our natural politics, and how our national politics are defining our culture. i do think we have to disrupt our national politics. i personally believe in working toward a multi party democracy. i think if we have more than two major political parties we will create more homes for people and mark consensus around policymaking and hopefully national policies. >> last 15 seconds, susan. >> i think we've actually gotten things done. when you look at the support for ukraine, when you look at the infrastructure bill, when you look at -- those are things that people came together on, being honest people with a solution. so, i think it's possible. it's just that we are all a little disillusioned right now. >> let's end it with that positivity. thank you so much. we will bring you that news conference that we've talking about here, as soon as it begins, in just a moment. for now, we are back in a bit. in a bit

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world headquarters in new york. we are expecting a news conference at any moment out of akron, ohio, to show the police body cam video from monday's deadly shooting of a black motorist. we will bring it to you as soon as it begins. until then, we are bringing you a re-broadcast of the january 6th hearing on president trump's pressure campaign on a states to overturn the election. >> i now welcome our first panel of witnesses. we are joined today by distinguished legislators from

arizona, bowers, who is a speaker for the arizona house of representatives. mr. bauer was first elected to the state legislature in 1983, and has served as a speaker since 2019. welcome, speaker bowers. -- is a secretary of state of georgia, serving in this role since 2019. as an elected official and republican, secretary raffensperger is responsible for supervising elections in georgia and maintaining the states public records. welcome, mister secretary. april sterling is a chief operating officer in that secretary of state's office. mr. sterling was a statewide voting systems implementation manager for the 2020 election in georgia, responsible for leading the secretary of state's response to the covid

pandemic and rolling out organized voting equipment. i will swear in our witnesses. if the witnesses would please stand and raise the right hand. do you swear on, that the testimony you are about to give is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you god. thank you, please be seated. let that record reflect that that witnesses answered in the affirmative. speaker bowers, thank you for being with us today. you are the speaker of the arizona house, and a self described conservative republican. you campaigned for president trump, and with him during the 2020 election. is it fair to say that you wanted donald trump to win a second term in office? please. >> yes sir, thank you.

>> and is it your understanding that president biden was the winner of the popular vote in arizona in 2020? >> yes sir. >> thank you. pursuant to section five c eight house resolution 503, the chair recognizes that the dental gentleman from california as mr. schiff for questions. >> mr. bowers, thank you for being with us today. before we begin with questions i had prepared for you, i want to ask about a statement that former president trump issued which i received just prior to the hearing. have you had a chance to review that statement? >> my counsel called from arizona and read it to me, yes sir. >> in a statement, i want to read it in its entirety, former president trump begins by calling you a rhino republican in name only. he then references