instagram, twitter, and the ticking talk. right now, i am happy to hand things over to my friend reverend al sharpton. i know you have an interview with the wig, congressman jim clyburn coming up. i will be watching. >> well, i thank you for watching, and i certainly enjoy watching you. lady in blue tonight, i see. thank, you symone. good evening, and welcome to politicsnation on the eve of independence day, two nights lead, independents for whom? right now, the country is celebrating its independence from tyranny and absolute rule. tomorrow's july 4th is likely to feel different for millions of americans who have watched

weeks off a supreme court decision to point the nation down an onshore path. among them, millions of wisdom now subject to the courts decision, overturning roe v. wade. many having already watched trigger bans on abortion taking effect in their states, while conservative lawmakers dream up cartoonish methods to keep women from freeing to blue states where abortion is still legal. president biden must not only preside over the scales, but use it to drive voters to the polls, leading up to a midterm elections in november. of course, national abortion fight is far from his only domestic challenge, as this july 4th weekend has been curtailed by the same record inflation and rising gasoline prices that have tended the presidents approval numbers for months now.

i would be lying if i said our democracy was not in peril this independence day, and i want patronizing with the easy prescription of vote harder. because, marginalized communities will tell you, it's not that simple. and so, as we mark the nation's 246th birthday, what does fighting back look like? two democrats have enough time to do so before it's too late? that's the big question on politicsnation. also tonight, police in akron, ohio, just believed, released body cam footage of the fatal arrest of jayland walker last week, as another shooting death cast a spell on july 4th weekend. we bring you the latest from act grin later. joining me now is congressman jim clyburn, congressman of south carolina, and house majority. congressman clyburn, we

appreciate you joining us as always. and of course, we have a lot to get to tonight. the eve of -- again, thank you for being here. on the eve of a tense july 4th for the nation, it is very tense. i want to start on a hopeful note. ketanji brown jackson, now officially installed as u.s. supreme court justice, is no small feat because you lobbied president biden for her on the advice of your daughter, dr. jennifer clyburn read who lobbied you. you both joined my colleague lawrence o'donnell hours after judge jackson was sworn in last week. folks at home, take a listen. >> with the nomination, we knew that representation matters a lot. and, the representation just wasn't there. so, it was an argument that the

congressman had no answer for. anything is possible. justice jackson -- let's say that again. justice jackson is a representation of what is possible for all americans. >> now, given how close you were personally to this process, congressman. how are you prosecuting this coming just a few days before the nation's birthday? >> well, thank you very much for having me. you know, watching that a swearing in, reflecting on the discussions we had back in 2020, when a lot of people were saying that this sounded like a commitment could not be made in public, i thought it was very necessary for people to know the real joe biden. and so, i urged him to do it

because i thought it would help to change the narrative. it did. i was so proud of that moment. this justice is going to do for the families, for the communities, this nation, real proud. i am so so pleased to see it come. you are right. i have three daughters, and all three of them are involved and invested in the discussion. jennifer is a little more outspoken than the other. so, she kind of took the lead in the argument. but, i listen to my daughters. i talk to them often. jennifer is here with me now. we spent july 4th together. we hope that many others show up. [inaudible] >> yeah, i'm still here.

i saw that proud father lucky you had, and i must say, your three daughters came from to activists, you and your wife. so, it's in their blood, and i certainly remember that you were the one that helped to put that president there when you endorsed joe biden and his campaign for the nomination of the democratic party. i will never forget the morning that you did at the endorsement, the national action for the south carolina ministers breakfast, and we gave you the award in the name of your activist wife. congressman, let me not diverge too much. justice jackson joins the court as one of three, contrasting with a conservative majority that has issued several controversial decisions here in the last few weeks, not the least of which being that reversal of roe v. wade.

other than altering descends to future opinions from the conservative wing, how does justice jackson hold the conservative wing in check? >> well, i think that, you know, people with an open mind, and most of our justices do have open minds, they may have opinions. conservative versus progressive, but their minds are open. i think they will listen to the argument. i think what justices can bring to the court, their experience, it can allow her to make the argument to make a decision with the other justices. she was born down in southern florida. she has had a great educational background. she served on the court. she has been a prosecutor. she has been a public defender.

she just has the experiences that allow her to sit around and say to the other justices, let's take a look at this possibility. let's look at some what ifs. maybe, we will be able to convert some of their thinking. >> now congressman, another big thing today, hours ago, the akron police department released body camera footage of the fatal shooting of motorist jalen walker. last week, and i must warn you, our viewers that this footage is disturbing. the video showing from on our current police officers perspective or appears to be the car chase and the on foot pursuit that authorities say proceeded officers, ultimately opening fire. on jayland walker at least 60 times. according to akron police chief,

right now, eight unidentified akron police officers are on administrative leave. akron's mayor is calling for peace earlier, as protests go into their fourth straight day. this police department maintaining that walker fired a gun during the pursuit, claiming the, acclaim the family pursuits. congressman, failed -- despite the house passage thing -- still, there was an effort, no doubt, made possible by democratic majorities in both house and senate. but, it will publicans retake congress, can we assume that even that effort will become impossible? >> well, let's see. what you are looking, at what the supreme court just did say new york law, you've got to know, they are in for some very hard times if we do not. you know, i've been talking a

lot about the pendulum swings that to take place in this country. our country does not move on a limb airplane. it has always gone from left, to write, back right again, back left again. that's the way it's been. what's tends to check that is -- if the voters see it in november, i think we have a real good chance of -- when it comes to police behavior, when it comes to guns on our streets, if we let out of this process and continue to be lackadaisical about hoarding, then we are in for some hard times ahead. i think the house is demonstrative of the fact that you can't get things done when the democrats have done it with a majority. we do not have a clear majority in this senate. it's 50/50.

we have two democrats who are not willing to tackle the so-called, whatever you call that vote, the filibuster. we needed to do something, and do it real quickly. >> all right, thank you for being with us on the eve of the fourth. congressman jim clyburn. joining me now is democratic strategist james, co-host of 2020 politics war, were broom. thank you for joining us, mr. carville. i have a lot of topics i want to cover. let's start with the big one, inflation is at a 40 year high. and, a new report says black and brown voters who make up the backbone of the democratic party are being squeezed the most. they could soon see hard gains in the job market erased by a possible recession.

you are the man who coined the phrase, is the economy stupid, during bill clinton's successful 1992 campaign. are you hearing a strong message from democrats on the economy in these midterm elections? >> well, yes. ask yourself this question. any kind of question, low income, middle income person. who do you think is going to help more to get through this, president biden and the democrats, or the republicans? you've got to really ask yourself that. to, me there is one thing we can do. the tories did in the uk. if we have all time high gas prices, and all-time high company profits, my idea is, let's attack these profits and give people some relief. we can do that. that's things you can do. we have some tools in our tool box. let's use them and go to work. >> now, let's talk about abortion. new polling shows, the number of americans who list abortion

rights is a top priority for the government has doubled this year to 20 22% in anticipation of the overturning of roe v. wade. most americans support some kind of legalized abortion, but there is very little agreement on how broad or narrow reproductive rights should be. we'll defending a woman's right to choose b that winning issue many democrats hope it will be, or what should they be saying about it? >> well, let's start. i am confident in telling your viewers that the democratic political position has improved over the last month. is it still powerless? yes, it is. it is better today than it was a month ago. you cannot take the abortion decision, but you can't forget the political decision. as you know, marginalized communities are affected by gun violence for more than other communities, and marginalized communities are far more

affected by pollution than other communities, too, both from the standpoint of clean air and climate change. basically, the supreme court has cut that. standpoif you think about it, n sense tells you, we shouldn't be restricting peoples freedom. we don't need more guns in this country. we have 400 million guns, something like that in the country right now. comments tells you, we need less pollution, if not more. it's just going against common sense. people -- i like to think that i do, too, are the people that are going to be most adversely affected by this. >> all right, now let's look at republicans, and specifically the top of the party, former president trump remains the standard ballot. but, it does seem like the accounts of him throwing food, and wrestling secret service agents put forward by the january 6th committee are getting under his skin. the best evidence for this is that he is now reportedly

itching to launch his presidential campaign before the midterms are completed. in the meantime, florida governor ron desantis, best known for waging war on mickey mouse and micromanaging elementary school lesson plans is ranking in millions. he's also raking in millions of dollars from trump donors. my question to you is, are democrats better off battling the party of desantis or the party of trump? >> well, let's start and get professional a bit here. i have news for republicans. the end is near. you understand what i'm saying? the end is near. this committee is like in the fourth or fifth inning. there's a lot more to go, and there is a lot more that we are going to find out. that is -- i think that's going to have a pretty significant change. we are starting to see that now.

i'm so proud for benny thompson from mississippi. that's a state i've spent a lot of time in. i have a place in bay st. louis. they are showing what it takes to people in the middle of the country, they are showing what it takes to get this thing in the right direction, and i think these people are just getting warmed up. this is the end of nothing. this is the beginning of everything. the end is near. >> repent, the end is near. wow. from james carville. before i let you go. later in the show, i am going to have a special listened to those that are feeling concerned about our country on the 4th of july. i want to give you take. in 2020, i remember you are a voice of calm, telling democrats that if they stick to the plane, trump would be defeated, and joe biden would be president. what is your take now, as we head into these very important midterms? >> i am not a voice of calm. i'm petrified.

i will echo with my friend congressman clyburn. if this country does not have a voter intervention, i am not optimistic. if people, and particularly young people, if they care any about this country, they should know, once a young person on the forefront of the civil rights movement, they don't get a hold to this and boost something, i am mortified. i fully endorse a strategy of voter intervention, but i am not a voice of confidence at all. i am very afraid right now. >> yeah, it's a scary time. you are right, i've been -- i'm still at the forefront, but i'm not that young anymore. you, james carville, are unified. very few people know, you are the only man in america that could be roasted at the kennedy center and have al sharpton and other speakers on the same stage for the same event. i don't know anyone else that could pull that off. >> that was a big honor to have

you there. rip, and the end is near. i'm. right >> all right, thank you for being with us. we won't get you up to date on breaking news out of akron ohio now, where the akron police department has just released body camera footage of the deadly shooting involving his officers. maggie vespa is there now. maggie, we know there was a peace march scheduled after the press conference. what are you seeing? >> sure, well reverend, as you can see, this is happening right now. people have been going around several blocks marching and yelling. when we want? justice. when we wanted? now. also saying, jalen walker, he just heard it over number again. that was the 25-year-old, who early monday morning was shot and killed by akron police. the thing that is really interesting, hear the numbers to this story. police confirming, eight akron

police officers firing roughly 90 rounds, excuse, me 60 times. 25 years old. those, 60 wounds, obviously fatal, the 65-year-old darling of his injuries. in akron ohio, later today, police released body camera video, including those moments where he was shot and killed. it was just a barrage of bullets, as expected. they also say, they released details of what led up to the shooting, say they pulled him over for a traffic violation, saying that he said he shot at them and appears to show that in the video, out of his car widow. but, what people here can't get past is that again, he was wounded at 60 times, according to official autopsy reports. 90 rounds fired, and again, also police pointing out that they believe he was unarmed when he was shot, that he was actually running away from police. so, this is the city of akron right now. people are furious. they've seen the video.

they've heard what police have to say, and they say they don't care. they feel like the level of violence against 25-year-old jalen walker was disproportionate. they are planning to keep protesting throughout akron throughout the evening. we are going to stay on the ground and absolutely keep an eye on this. back to you. >> all right, maggie vesta, thank you for your reporting. still to come, why it's time for the true patriots to stand up this 4th of july? but first, my colleague cory coffin with today's other top news stories. cory? >> thanks, rob, stories we are watching this hour for you, russia has taken control of the last city in the luhansk region that was still under ukrainian control. ukraine's military says it had withdrawn from the eastern city hours after russia's defense minister said his forces seized control of it. ukraine president told the australian prime minister today, the city is still being fought for over the border.

explosions rocked the russian town of belgrade, killing four people there, as well, according to officials there. fourth of july is in full swing, and there are plenty of travel headaches with air travel numbers approaching three pandemic levels. hundreds of flights have already been canceled this weekend and thousands were delayed. that's according to flight aware. more than 50 flights are already canceled for tomorrow as well. and, tropical storm colin is ruining barbecue plans along the eastern seaboard. the storm has drenched parts of the carolinas. although the system is weakening, dangerous rip currents and high waves are still possible. more politics nation with reverend al sharpton after the break. reverend al sharpton after the break.

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there will be flags and fireworks as there is every july 4th. but given recent developments and our court and in our politics, many americans will

understandably be concerned about where we are as a country. some of the rights we took for granted are now repelled by the supreme court that no longer seems guided by the will of the majority of americans. the house committee lie and cheat to remain in power. and the angry mob willing to follow him into the abyss that lies beyond democracy. all while calling themselves patriots. these feel like dark times. but i remain heartened by the fact that we have been here before. angela of 1861, america had gone to war with itself. president abraham lincoln traveled to the north and saw citizens gripped with nationalist fever, waving the flag and cycling themselves up for war with their rebel

neighbors to the south. but as one historian notes, president lincoln was unimpressed with this. and he, quote, repeatedly emphasized in the 1850s, american freedom above all, maybe unalienable right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness of any human being regardless of circumstance. a country founded by -- deserved not only to survive, but to inspire the world, unquote. and lincoln's a quest on 24th of that year, he said his fellow countryman, quote, it is now for them to demonstrate to the world that those q can fairly carry an election can also suppress a rebellion. that balance on the rightful and peaceful succession -- and when ballots are constitutionally decided, there

can be no successful appeal back two bullets, unquote. his word still resonate more than a century and a half later. those who resort to violence and coercion cannot wrap themselves in the flag and claim to love this country. it is those of us who uphold the principles of democracy, universal liberty, who are the true patriots. we are the ones -- the ambitious principles laid by the founders of the country. even if they didn't fully live up to them then. and we still struggle to fulfill them now. let's celebrate this independence day by rising up and continuing to fight to make this country the unique and exceptional nation it has always aspired to be. happy july for. let's do it right. we will be right back. it right. we will be right back. we will be right back.

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i want to bring in my political panel to weigh in on today's big topics. joining me now is former republican representative david -- of florida. he is also an msnbc political analyst. and former democratic senator, doug jones of alabama. dog, let's start with the legal battles the supreme court has fought by overturning roe v. wade. this week, judges in florida and kentucky blocked abortion bans from taking effect. but supporters of abortion rights face an uphill climb with bans and restrictions on their way in at least 22 states. do you think there are still pathways to protect abortion rights in the courts or should the focus shifts to legislation? >> i think there are very few -- thanks for having me this sunday afternoon before the fourth. i think there are very few

legal avenues. some of the states will go too far. especially when they're talking about banning travel. when they get into contraception. those will be the main legal battles that will be fought. there are still a lot of legal battles out there, but the fundamental right will be left to the states. i think that we have to figure out how to do this on a federal legislative level. and otherwise, we will have chaos. justice alito's opinion, thought that he would settle this issue down and what he has done is really thrown gasoline on a fire because we are about to have chaos in 50 states. the red versus blue is going to be very strong. people are going to try to can stroll and influence their state legislatures to do what they want. it will be a real battle in the state legislatures. >> now, david, the supreme court leader in another move this week -- that could prove to be almost as consequential as his decision of reversing roe.

the high courts said it will hear arguments in north carolina in the north carolina case involving what is called, quote, independent legislature theory. now, which gives states the sweeping powers over how elections are conducted, legal experts warn this could open the door to even more partisan gerrymandering and the siri was cited by some trump lawyers in their efforts to send the 2020 election back to the states. how deeply do you think the outcome of this case could affect our democracy? >> this could be a groundbreaking praise -- case and i would expect the -- what this would basically do as say, a state legislature could actually pass any version of voting, election administration laws, so long as it does not trigger across the line in the voting rights acts and protection of minority voting rights that the supreme court

has declared as a federal issue and up -- what does that mean? that means in states where, for instance, citizens have petitioned to put an amendment to their state constitution to prohibit gerrymandering, to require geography as a fairness test. when states that have pursued open primaries or rank choice voting, now, if they have a sufficient majority in the legislature, they can undo all of the citizens wishes. if the supreme court goes in this direction, it would suggest a state legislature can do whatever it wants, -- which we know in red states will ultimately be used to reduce turnout amongst democratic and minority communities. >> let's stay with you and talk about the january 6th probe. in surprise testimony last week, a former aide to trump's white house chief of staff mark meadows gave a shocking account of the former presidents

actions that day, when the secret service officers refused to let him vallow protesters down to the u.s. capital. take a listen. >> mr. engel grabbed his arm, said, sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel. we are going back to the west wing. we are not going back to the capital. mr. trump then used his free hand to lunge towards bobby engle and -- he had motioned towards his clavicle's. >> just as troubling as his own violent behavior, was the presidents apparent knowledge of his supporters violent intent that day. and he knew they were armed. the president was told many in the crowd he had assembled were armed. and yet, according to the testimony, he demanded the removal of screening devices that would have detected those weapons. what should the consequences

before this type of behavior from the commander in chief of the united states? >> i think if you accept cassidy hutchinson's testimony, and granted, it has to be tested against other peoples memories of those days, it means the department of justice needs to investigate whether or not the former president, while he was sitting in the office, knew that there was an attempt to use violence to prevent the certification of an election and said, i am going to help advance that violence. i'm going to reduce the security blanket. one of the most damning thing is that cassidy hutchinson testified that pat cipollone -- heard donald trump agree with the fact that mike pence should be hanged. i think ultimately the reason the january 6th committee called her to testify so quickly as they wanted to send cipollone a subpoena to say, we believe you are interim and heard donald trump endorsed violence. is that true? >> and we do know for a fact,

david, that the president himself, we can dispute her testimony, but the president herself -- himself that at that rally that he was going to the capitol, which a president cannot go to the chamber of the house and senate unless he is invited. so, what was he going for? and we do know he knew they were arms. let me go back to you senator jones while i have you. i want to mentioned a significant development in the 1955 lynching of amid tell. last week, -- for evidence about the case, found and unserved warrant, charging a white woman in his kidnapping. the relatives of emmett reportedly want authorities to finally arrest her, nearly 70 years later. now, you successfully prosecuted to kkk members for their roles in the 1963 birmingham church bombing, nearly four decades after the attack took place.

talk to me about why it is so important that justice be served in these cases, even so many years later. >> justice should never be denied. it can be delayed, but it should never be denied. and i think the finding of this warrant is a really important development. i have for a long time felt that it would be very difficult to prosecute that woman for murder, with away it turned out. she had made certain admissions, but the murder case, there is no statute of limitations. it is tough. right now, with this warrant, what you have is that authorities felt at the time, in the 1950s, there was enough evidence to charge her with kidnapping. later mississippi laws, there's no statute of limitations for kidnapping. that is a very different crime that you could possibly prove, given her testimony, that she lied to authorities, dealing

with the fact that she talked to her husband and the other man, who has admitted that they killed emmett till. the earliest opportunity -- whether or not a local da or a state attorney general can do that or a grand jury would actually indict with a lady who is in her 80s now, but frankly, i just think that age should not matter at this point. justice should still be served no matter how long it takes. >> doug jones and david -- thank you so much for joining us. coming up, the supreme court after the roe v. wade hearing -- does not want to hear from those who disagree with him. later, i will explain. o disagree with him. later, i will explain. all night ♪ applebee's late night. because half off is just more fun. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood.

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we have been following breaking news on -- police and akron ohio have released body cam footage and additional details on the death of jayland walker, a 25 year old black motorist who was shot and killed by police. on monday after officers sought to pull him over for an unspecified traffic violation, -- eight officers have been put on administrative leave as the ohio -- meanwhile, protesters have been peacefully demonstrating in

akron for days, demanding more transparency and accountability in walker's death. joining me now is -- he is an author and is the former ceo of the robin hood foundation. he is also a democratic candidate for the governor's race in maryland. thank you for joining me today. >> i want to start with this already out of akron today. you have work to address urban poverty. you understand all too well the impact of police brutality and the criminalization of black youth. in your home state of maryland, you have seen this fair share -- immediately, your thoughts go to the families. and you know that we have to move with urgency. we need a federal and an

independent investigation as to what happened. and i talk often about policing with appropriate intensity, appropriate intensity, but absolute integrity and all of this. we have to be able to get to the bottom of this because the reality right now is we keep on seeing the same things happening in our communities. and for us to truly create a situation where people can feel safe and communities, and their own homes, and in their own skin, it means that we have to have these thorough investigations as to what happened and make sure true justice -- >> switching gears here, i want to ask you about another problem that is hitting americans hard. as the united states inflation rate has hit record high in recent -- consumers have felt that financial burden, especially in black and hispanic communities. in your experience of being the

ceo of the largest anti poverty nonprofit, what can be done to help vulnerable communities right now? >> yeah, the reality is that, as i'm going all around the state of maryland, i keep hearing people say, things feel like everything is more expansive. the reality is is because it is more expensive. too many of us cannot afford gas, cannot afford food, we watch gas prices rise. just 35% in the last month. there are a few things that we can do on the state level to be able to address these issues. as you're watching inflation rise -- and affordability for our families. the first is, we need to get people back to work. and the reality of having a broken childcare system continues to bear on all of our society because not only -- 150 childcare centers closest covid -- that is one of the core reasons we are not getting people back to work. we also have to focus on job

retraining. get people back to work in this economy. and we have to raise wages. right now, we are talking about a minimum wage that is still not keeping up with an inflationary growth. so, to make things more affordable, we need to relieve the pressure evolve. of the working families who are struggling to survive in this moment, and that needs to be done with a sense of urgency. >> quickly, i would like your take on another story in your state right now. a supreme court martial has asked the governors of maryland and virginia to curtail protest activity outside the homes of supreme court justices. what is your take on this request and dozen impede on the first amendment right to protest? >> i vehemently support the first amendment. i support the right to assembly and the right to free speech. and i also support safety.

and i think that when we are talking about the confluence of what this is right now and what we are looking up, i know people are angry. and yet, intimidating and threatening judges is not going to be the answer as to what we are going to do to be able to express that anger. we see it in the state of maryland, where we have physical violence against the children of judges. this is the type of thing that, while we have to protect the first amendment, we also need to support the safety of our judges have all. >> all right, former ceo of the robin hood foundation, currently candidate for governor of maryland, thank you for being with us. up next, my final thoughts. stay with us. next, my final thoughts stay with us

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thanks for watching. i'll see you back here next weekend at 5 pm eastern. american voices with alicia menendez will return next weekend. instead, we will re-air one of the january 6th hearings on trump allies, who requested pardons before