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warn you. we won't show the moment that walker is shot, but this footage is still disturbing and might be difficult for people to watch. here it is now. police say walker's car had been involved in a police chase the day before, but it's unclear what that traffic violation on monday was for when walker drove off, when they tried to pull him over. police also reported a gunshot from his car during their pursuit. you cannot see the angle of walker's vehicle or the gunshot. walker's family lawyer says it is unclear if he accidentally fired the gun. now, eventually police say walker ran from his car wearing a ski mask and officers say they first tried to use tasers on him which did not work. they eventually opened fire after police said walker stopped and appeared to turn quickly toward them. but just yesterday during a press conference, akron police chief made the crucial clarification that walker was unarmed at the moment of the shooting. >> as you could see in the

video, there was a gun recovered from mr. walker's vehicle at the time of the -- at the time of the shooting he was unarmed. >> let's get to kathy park in akron for us. is there going to be a probe of the officers? what do we know about the probe and what else do we know about the investigation? >> reporter: cori, good morning to you. i should preface by saying we are still early on in the investigation. they released camera footage yesterday. the ohio criminal bureau investigation along with the attorney general's office, meantime here on the ground here, you can see the landscape is quickly changing. so right now they are bringing in reinforcement to kind of block off some of the streets. we're in the downtown corridor right now. this has been essentially the scene for mostly peaceful protests over the last couple of days. yesterday we had a chance to speak with some individuals who were out here protesting shortly

after they saw the body camera footage. take a listen. so what's the message that you have for police in this community? >> police in the community and across the country use discretion, use common sense. don't go out there. i know you're excited for the chase. you could hear it on the audio. >> once he got on the ground you couldn't see nothing. all you could see was smoke. >> reporter: and, cori, we should note that eight officers are now on paid administrative leave. they have not released any statements at this time. however, the union representing these officers have said that their actions were justified. meanwhile, right behind me is justice center. last night it was the scene of additional protests. at times it got a little heated with officers who were in riot gear as well as members of the

community who were clearly outraged. and later on today as you mentioned, there will be additional protests. we'll be monitoring all of that. cori? >> yes, they said they will lead a transparent investigation. thank you, kathy. pete arredondo of the school district force has resigned from his job on the uvalde city council barely a month after being sworn in. arredondo is at the center of the widely criticized response at the may shooting at the robb elementary school that killed 19 students and two teachers. he is believed to make the call to officers as a barricade situation rather than an active shooter situation. for more on this, i want to bring in zack from the texas tribune. thank you for being here today. what do we know about why arredondo is stepping down? >> good morning, cori. chief arredondo sent a letter to

city hall in uvalde on saturday saying he felt it was best for the community in light of the shooting for him to step down from his role on city council. he was just elected to that position a few weeks before the shooting. a few weeks after the shooting, he has been avoiding any public appearances whatsoever in the past month. many people had called on him in town to step down from the city council, but a lot of people we spoke to said we want him to step down from his actual full-time job, the one that's most important here, being the school district police chief, the role in which as you said, state police said he was the main reason police did not immediately go in and engage the shooter during the shooting. >> what is his current status with the police department now? i do know many in the community feel the city council seat doesn't do anything with regard to the decision that he made that day. >> i checked with the school district on saturday.

they said that he remains employed. he is on administrative leave that the district had placed him on a few weeks ago. they did that the day after, the head of the state police testified at the capital in which he had said that, contrary to what chief arredondo had said, that police could have engaged the shooter win three minutes of arriving on scene. they had enough firepower, they had enough officers and there were no locked doors preventing them from entering the classroom. arredondo's narrative to myself and my colleague james in an interview a month ago, there were extensive comments arredondo made since the shooting, he said that two locked classroom doors were the reason that officers waited more than an hour to ultimately engage the shooter because he spent so much time looking for keys to open the door. the state police ultimately said they were never needed. >> all right. so, the misinformation, the lack of information being released from both the department and the city. what's your reporting telling

you about the latest on the people's effort to get more transparency in this investigation? >> sure. there have been many, many frustrated residents in uvalde who we have spoken with who had essentially said, look, the city is not releasing any information whatsoever. the state and other law enforcement agencies are also choosing not to immediately fulfill records requests from us as journalists, or the regular public. there is some pressure in the legislature to get more transparency about this. like i said, in that legislative hearing, the head of the state police surveillance footage from the school so long as he gets permission from the local d.a. she has not commented about, you know, if she is going to give that permission. it's like a whole circle of not providing answers right now to the public. >> incredibly frustrating for those families who are still waiting for some moment of peace

here, which will never come unfortunately. zack despart, thank you for being with us this afternoon. we appreciate it -- this morning depending where you're watching us from. one of the people who is pressing for more transparency is texas state senator roland gutierrez. thank you for being with us. what are you hearing from the uvalde community whether arredondo resigning is a good step from the city council? >> my constituents have been demanding this change obviously and demanding his resignation. that said, there is much more accountability to be had here. we had 91 d.p.s. troopers that arrived. there were 12 of them in that hallway. as zack just suggested to us earlier, there are certainly people that are asking, i think mccraw had suggested he's okay to releasing the body cam as soon as the d.a. releases that information, the fact is she said she's not having an

investigation as of two weeks ago. and so we're just getting so many different answers from the district attorney, from d.p.s., from the governor's office, and none of it leads to the global accountability that we need from all law enforcement into this, including the department of public safety. >> let me ask you this, senator. what can you and your constituents do in that -- in the light of being blocked by all other local authorities in regard to this case? >> well, i filed a lawsuit about ten days ago. this tuesday, tomorrow, we will be asking for a hearing date so that we can have at least a district court judge hear what we're asking for, which is documentation, who was what, when and where. we'd like to know where the troopers were situated because those are the guys most immediately accountable to me, body cam footage. all of this information has been shielded. i was listening to your previous report where it suggested that

in akron , ohio, they released body cam footage within a day or two. and here we are more than 40 days out, and we have yet to understand what went wrong in this horrible systemic failure. we know now that not one single radio worked inside that building. we further know that the governor's office knew for the last seven years that the radios were not doing well and the community was asking for more resources in that regard. we have a systemic failure that needs to be addressed so that this never happens again in rural texas or any part of texas. >> building on that, i'd like to get your reaction to some of the texas tribune reporting on the city's controversial handling of the investigation. the texas tribune saying, quote, the civil uvalde has refused to immediately release any records, even those unrelated to the shooting and has hired a private law firm to assist in an effort to withhold information permanently. this has to be losing trust within the community.

>> certainly. i think credibility is in question here. i've talked to the mayor and i continue to communicate with him and the county judge. the mayor has suggested to me, and he has showed me letters from the district attorney and from the department of public safety, that are not allowing him to show us any information. and so i've asked him to, to potentially join our lawsuit, and his lawyers are interested in looking at that situation. i think it is absolutely clear the d.a. here has tried to conceal what truly went wrong here, and i think it was at every level. >> very quickly, the last few seconds that i have you. last time we spoke about this, you did mention all of the people involved, not just arredondo. there are several law enforcement entities also involved. but speaking specifically from him, do you think he needs to step down as police chief of the schools? >> i'll leave that up to the school police. but certainly we need

accountability. the school district needs to assure us that. we need accountability here. greg abbott needs to reveal what went on with the department of public safety. this is his operation lone star. these are his special task force troops that were there en masse, and they alone didn't do anything either. so we have a lot of accountability to spread around here. >> state senator roland gutierrez, we appreciate your efforts and your time with us today. thank you. >> thank you. still ahead, new abortion bans and restrictions going into effect in states across the country. we are already hearing stories of people being denied care. what you need to know. plus, a record breaking weekend of holiday travel causing major headaches in many airports nationwide. this is the moment. for a brand new treatment for moderate-to-severe eczema. cibinqo - now fda approved 100% steroid free not an injection, cibinqo is a once-daily pill for adults who didn't respond to previous treatments.

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this supersedes the texas heartbeat act known as the six-week ban. across the u.s. a patchwork of bans and restrictions are taking effect. after the texas ruling, there are now six states that have an outright ban on abortions. a ban after 15 weeks takes effect as of this weekend in florida. and another ten states have bans or restrictions that are in waiting periods or facing litigation. already patients are being denied care in all of these states, including the most vulnerable patients, like a 10-year-old rape victim in ohio, who was six weeks and three days pregnant and unable to get treatment in her home state just hours after the supreme court ruling. she has to travel across state lines to indiana for care. and it's not just extreme cases like this one that abortion rights activists are concerned about. right now one in four women who give birth in, quote, trigger law states live below the poverty line according to a review of census data by nbc news. compare that to one in five

where abortions are legal. joining me national correspondent sarah and mara gaye, members of the editorial board. thank you for being with me on the important topic. sarah, i'd like to begin with you. you saw the map, the patchwork of laws a cross the state -- the u.s., i should say. they are surrounded by states with bans or restrictions. what is the likelihood states with bans will limit residents for traveling for care? is that being talked about? >> it is absolutely being talked about. it remains to be seen whether it would be enforceable. there are so many legal questions, so many questions all over the country right now about which bans will remain in effect, even the ones that are already on the books. but yes, just this last legislative session, a missouri lawmaker proposed trying to restrict traveling across state lines. her proposal wouldn't have stopped patients from traveling, but it would have allowed people

in missouri to sue people out of state for helping a person travel out of state for an abortion. and this is something that's being talked about at the national level by some groups, various ways of limiting access to abortion for people coming from other states. >> now, mara, the case in ohio is extreme, but it is reflective of what could happen in the wake of states banning or restricting abortion access without exception. two things. how could this be? how can abortion opponents justify this? and what's your reaction? >> i mean, i think that gives you a sense of what anna means unfortunately. so much of this movement of radical americans who are trying to limit the rights of others, which is not always about saving babies or fetuses, but is actually punishing toward women. and this is about control. this is about power. this is about punishing women for having autonomy over their

own bodies, over their own reproductive freedom. and, of course, over their own futures. and i think that's really where the focus should be for those who want to fight back against that movement, which is, of course, you know, really laying down the law in terms of the cruelty that is really animating some of these laws. and it really does go beyond protecting fetal life because you can't say that you only protect life up until a child is born, and that there's no protection for a 10-year-old, for example, who has found herself in a horrific position of facing, facing birth or abortion or anything like that. i mean, this is really about controlling women, and this is about controlling women's bodies, and i really think we should really focus on the power dynamics here. and i also just want to say

that, you know, i wrote about this this weekend, and i'm very frustrated because women have a human right to, you know, enjoy their own sexuality safely and a right to privacy. and our human rights are at stake, and ultimately, you know, until we recognize that, we're going to be debating these conversations and the terms of those who would take our rights away. so i think we need to find new language to really define these fights. >> and new language that can rally -- that voters can rally around come the midterms. i know that's something democrats are seeing as a challenge and they're trying to push forward with. sarah, this morning there are several states where abortion bans or restrictions are not yet in effect. what's the situation on the ground at places like louisiana, for example, that can still, for now, offer care to patients? >> right. so much is in flux. i was in louisiana in the aftermath of the dobbs decision

that overturned roe v. wade. what happened at the clinic i visited in shreveport, the day of the decision they had patients in the waiting room waiting for procedures that had to be sent home. there was a lot of sadness and anger, i was told. i wasn't there that day. i was there monday. after the clinic's legal team filed some challenges in state court arguing essentially louisiana's multiple abortion restrictions are unclear, it wasn't clear what was legal, what wasn't legal. they won at least a temporary reprieve. new orleans' judge issued a temporary restraining order allowing procedures to resume on tuesday. and i was there that day. i talked to a patient who said she traveled from out of state, she traveled from texas to get her procedure. she has very difficult pregnancy she told us and already had three young children and just couldn't have another one at that time in her life, she said. so at that clinic and others in louisiana and others in states, there are a couple other states like utah and kentucky that have

gotten similar reprieves. work is underway to call patients back and reschedule procedures. it's all very tenuous and probably very temporary. >> and, mara, i want to show viewers something you wrote in "the times" warning us how serious this could be. the radical minority including the right-wing faction on the supreme court won't stop banning abortion. if we take justice clarence thomas at his word, and no reason not to, the right to contraception could be the next to fall. do you think that that's the end goal? what's the end goal here? could it be further down the line? >> the end goal is complete control over the lives and bodies of women in this country. i think it's clear that that's the case. i do think that this is about punishing women who compete against men in the workplace, punishing women who have sex outside of marriage, punishing women who cannot be controlled, who are independent, and, you know, one of the reasons i wrote this is the vast majority of americans not only support

abortion rights, but also do not share that draconian vision for america. nor do they share that draconian vision for christianity if they are christians. and, by the way, we do still have separation of church and state in this country, or we should. so i think it's a really important time to talk to people in your lives, men especially, and ask them to join with you in support of actually putting forth a different vision that is more egalitarian in the united states. there are more who support women's rights in the united states than the radical right minority trying to i can to them away. >> sarah and mara with us this monday, thank you both for being in. as americans get ready to celebrate the fourth of july, they are facing sticker shock for holiday staples. what the biden administration is saying it is doing to bring down prices.

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facing trouble nightmares with cancellations and delays from coast to coast. nbc's isa gutierrez is at newark airport. what's the situation there? >> reporter: cori, as you can see this is a completely different scene than what we've seen throughout the weekend, and even in just the last couple of hours. things have been smooth sailing here at newark this morning. i've been at two different terminals speaking to dozens of travelers. i did speak to some people who have experienced those headache moments with their flights, delays, cancellations, flights grounded. a couple of honeymooners i met from san diego who are waiting 12 hours here for a rescheduled flight, take a listen. >> it was actually crazy. we had been to europe and amsterdam -- from amsterdam to jfk, it's been hard all week. everything has been delayed by one day. >> reporter: that was a family that i spoke to here that had come -- traveled

internationally. but this is looking a lot better today so far, right. a lot of people don't actually travel back home until tuesday, so things are expected to speed up later tonight and tomorrow. however, throughout the weekend, over 17,000 flight delays across the country, over 1500 cancellations. and record numbers hitting pre-pandemic numbers here as well. on friday we saw the most travelers with nearly 2 1/2 million people flying across the country. hadn't seen that since february 11th of 2020. those numbers going down slightly according to the tsa over the last few days. but again, as people start to go back home, we're expecting to see them bump up in the next couple of days. cori? >> yeah, we know with airports you're going to see the crowds behind you bump back up as well. isa gutierrez, thank you very much. americans not only facing travel nightmares, but high prices, too. joining us is gary from delaware

and cnbc analyst ron insana. holiday cookouts are going to cost more. tell us about that. >> cori, folks at beaches across the country are going to be enjoying fourth of july. hotels are up 30%. and food, your favorite fourth of july foods are up about 17% compared to last year according to the farm bureau. we have a fancy graph to show you. 36%, the difference in ground beef from this year to last year. pork chops up 31%. your favorite glass of lemonade may cost you more than last year. why is it? we spent the week in bethany beach talking to farmers, growers and consumers. fafrmers, of course, it always starts with them. that's where the crops begin. they say their issue is getting the pesticides and the fertilizer from ukraine. they say because of the war. cori?

>> that is a really interesting angle i hadn't heard yet. ron, let's go over to you. president biden is under mounting pressure for soaring gas prices and inflation. amazon mogul jeff bezos slamming the president on twitter for blaming gas prices on big oil companies. writing, quote, it's either straight ahead miss direction or a deep misunderstanding of basic market dynamics. but white house press secretary corrine jean pierre firing back, quote, oil prices have dropped $15 the past month, but prices at the pump have barely come down. that's not basic market dynamics, it's a market failing the american consumer. separate fact from fiction regarding oil prices, ron. >> they're both wrong in a certain sense. the president has a political issue on his hands where he has to show he is doing something to counteract the increase that we've seen in the price of oil that goes back really to almost november of 2020. it's been steadily rising as supply and demand have gotten considerably tighter.

market dynamics are such with respect to what the white house spokeswoman had to say are prices have gone up and it takes longer for the price of gasoline to come down because oil companies are sitting on more expensive inventories as prices ran up over the last year and a half. so to work those off, the price at the pump stays higher a little longer and as oil prices do come down, gasoline prices fall with them. so they both have an agenda here with respect to what's going on. very simply, the supply/demand dynamics in the world oil market are very tight. because of the war in ukraine, because of a wide variety of other issues is keeping prices elevated at the pump relative to what we've seen the last many years. >> gary, you talked to people at the beach specifically. what is hampering their plans to having fun today? >> i'm not sure it's hampering their plans. the price has to go somewhere. it goes from farmers and growers down to the consumer. it ends up with a situation no

one is happy. the farmer doesn't want to have to charge more. consumers don't want to have to pay more. here's what they had to say. >> i bought apples the other day, $8. they were honey crisp. >> reporter: did you buy it anyway? >> i did. i'm by myself, so i want to have what i have. with everything going on in the world and stuff like that, i just accept it. i'm not going to complain about it. you want it, you get it. >> we've cutback on a lot of things. we're eating out, it's so expensive, but we look for bargains and that's what you do when you cutback. >> unfortunately i don't think we've seen the end of it either. i think it's going to keep going. the demand is there. they know, too, when we go to the store, people tend to buy in bulk, too. >> so what is the biden administration doing about all of this? that's the big question everyone is asking us this weekend. president biden has said these

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>> this happens every day, every day we get new people that come forward and say, hey, i didn't think maybe this piece of a story that i knew was important, but now that you guys -- like, i do see this plays in here. >> will we hear from witnesses that you did not know about, with stories you did not hear because of the hearing so far? >> yes, yes. there will be -- there is -- there will be way more information, and stay tuned. >> all right. joining me now is nbc's joy. that was an interesting tease of what's to come from congressman kinzinger. do we know when the next hearing could be and what to expect from it? >> yes, cori, nearly half of the panel teasing us all weekend long in their sunday show appearances. the next we expect could be in mid july. it could be in the next two weeks or later. we don't have an exact date yet. but as far as the substance of that hearing, when you look at the ones we've had already, six

of them in total so far, they've had different themes when it comes to each hearing. one of them on how former president trump used his pressure, used his allies to pressure, to try and subvert election officials. the department of justice in another one, the former vice-president, the role mike pence played, not going along with what president trump wanted had i am to do in the hearings as well. the next few are expected to continue to focus on hour by hour of january 6th. and especially what we haven't heard yet in terms of the rioters themselves, who funded them, how they were organized, whether that had anything to do with former president trump himself after cassidy hutchinson's explosive testimony last week. we expect them to tweak the upcoming hearings in terms of what they learned. and you heard adam kinzinger lay that out. they're learning a lot of new things day by day. >> it will be interesting to see if any witnesses came forward as a result of her testimony. now, committee vice chair liz cheney was asked by abc's

jonathan karl whether the committee would ultimately send the justice department a criminal referral for former president trump. here's what she said. >> we'll make a decision as a committee about it. >> it's possible there could be a criminal referral? >> yes. >> the committee would say, he should be prosecuted and this is the evidence -- >> the justice department doesn't have to wait for a criminal referral. there could be more than one criminal referral. >> what do you think when you hear that? is congresswoman cheney sending a message to merrick garland? >> yes, absolutely. that's why they're talking about a criminal referral. garland probably doesn't want a criminal referral. getting a criminal referral would put them on a spot -- think political pressure to make charges. and then whenever he does charge, there's going to be suggestion he's doing so on behalf of a partisan committee. basically what she's telling garland is, if you don't want us to send a referral, go ahead and start getting off your butt and investigating this case more

aggressively. >> and, julie, the january 6 committee subpoenaed trump white house counsel pat cipollone to testimony. question is why him? we've heard that he could be a key witness here. and is there any indication from what you're hearing in your reporting that he might comply with that? >> yeah, cori, it's a great question. the interest surrounding pat cipollone has been percolating quite sometime. remember, the committee spoke to him behind closed doors in mid april. he refused to cooperate any further. all of this came to a head during cassidy hutchinson, the former meadows' aide and top trump aide during her testimony because she revealed in plain english that pat cipollone had a big role to play in terms of trying to get former president trump to do, quote, unquote, the right thing on january 6, to call off the rioters in the capitol, and that sort of put public pressure on pat cipollone. and then the committee issued their subpoena to him. they said he left them no

choice. he is just way too crucial and critical to their investigation to not come forward and talk to them again. so that subpoena was issued a couple days ago. we heard from his lawyer who said he probably, interesting word choice, probably will sit down with the committee for at least a written testimony, but remember, that subpoena has some weight. he does have some standing in terms of executive privilege and something he may be able to use because of his proximity to former president trump. we'll have to see how that shakes out. >> the word probably is interesting there. renad 0, we heard some things in plain english from cassidy hutchinson, former top aide to white house chief of staff mark meadows. she said, we learned she was one of those witnesses who had been contacted ahead of questioning in an apparent attempt to influence her testimony. let's listen to what congresswoman zoe lofgren told chuck todd on "meet the press." >> if witnesses are being intimidated, we don't plant to

just sit by and allow that to happen. we're going to raise a stink about it. we're going to refer information publicly to the department of justice if witnesses are intimidated because it's a crime to do that. >> renado, how difficult is it to prove witness intimidation? >> it can be difficult to prove, particularly when, as in the case that we heard in the last hearing, the person who is trying to intimidate the witness is deliberately setting it up to make it hard to prosecute, right. there i think it was mark meadows had a oral conversation with the lower level aide who sent a text to cassidy hutchinson that he deliberately worded in a vague way to try to influence her testimony. could she make a case out of it? yes, potentially. what i think the committee was actually doing is putting a marker down and basically telling anyone who is trying to intimidate their witnesses, we will call you out. we will make this public. we're putting a shot across the bow. if you do this again as love

again just said a moment ago, we're going to make a stink out of it and call you out publicly >> and we're going to continue to follow that and see what the other witnesses have to say, how many witnesses come forward, and when we can expect that next hearing which i know julie will be closely following. julie and renado, thank you both for being in today. >> thank you. and up next, a warning from health officials about the monkeypox outbreak. we'll be talking to an epidemiologist who is studying the disease and tell you exactly what you need to know coming up. this is the moment. for a brand new treatment for moderate-to-severe eczema. cibinqo - now fda approved 100% steroid free not an injection, cibinqo is a once-daily pill for adults who didn't respond to previous treatments. and cibinqo provides clearer skin and helps relieve itch. cibinqo can lower your ability to fight infections, including tb. before and during treatment,

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action to stop the spread of monkeypox. joining me now, an epidemiologist. doctor, thank you for being in. the cdc says there are 460 cases in the u.s. but you warn that could be much higher. is the fear that could spread as rampantly as covid? >> thank you for having me? and good morning. and it is true that the testing -- the scale of testing in the u.s. is very small compared to the size of the population that is at risk for monkeypox. it could -- could monkeypox be as transmissible as covid? i don't think so. covid is a respiratory infection. and monkeypox, at least the way we have seen it seems like it is associated with skin-to-skin contact. it doesn't mean it is not harmful and dangerous to deal with immediately. and we are -- so that's what we are doing. we are trying to -- we are

trying to find out information about it. because testing is so bad, we have had to mounted our own study in the community, a community-led study called the respond si study. and what we are going to do is get a sense of how widely people experience monkeypox-like symptoms and how people are connected socially and sexually across new york city to begin with. the idea is to make up for the fact that testing is so bad it doesn't allow us to understand what's happening. but we are fund-raising. i urge all of you to go to mpx response.org and contribute to the effort to help protect our community. >> doctor, let me ask you this, who is most at risk for monkeypox? >> at the moment, in america it is mostly gay and bisexual man. it has been detected in large cities in europe first, and

increasingly in the u.s. and canada. >> what is your general advice today? how easy is it to get testing even though it didn't prevalent here in the u.s.? would recommend the vaccine? >> i would recommend the vaccine. i would recommend to get tested. the problem is both of those are scarce at the moment. we wrote a "new york times" opinion piece warning about this exact scenario that we are experiencing now. and it's not a scenario that was unavadible. it's actually just an outcome of the failure of government to set up follow sees quickly that can allow to us expand testing and get vaccinations into people's bodies instead of in a refrigerator in denmark in a stockpile where the vaccine currently is. >> on that note, is it your

professional opinion that the biden administration is responding to this outbreak too slowly? do you feel that they are doing enough? what do you make of the plans from the administration to send vaccines to hot spots? >> i think they are responding too slowly. i think there are 1.6 million doses of vaccines sitting in a warehouse in a fridge in denmark. and the reason it's there and not here in our bodies is simply because the fda failed to inspect that facility in time for a certification to not lapse. so there is a certification called current good manufacturing practices which has lapsed because the fda failed to inspect. now, the european medicines agency has inspected that facility and has found it to comply with that certification. so one thank this the u.s. government could do today is to

recognize that inspection, to recognize that decision by the european medicines agency, and bring the vaccines over to the u.s. so they can be distributed in large numbers. it's great that a vaccine has been take tony hot spots we immediate more vaccine. and we need to have a predictable supply of vaccine. what's been happening is vaccine will be announced on the same day, and will run out of both doses and appointments on that day and people don't know when next it will be available. >> doctor, thank you for that warning and for your insight here on this. this is something the u.s. needs to get ahead of sooner than later. that wraps up this hour. i will be back after a quick break with more news including what you need to know including how big tech could monitor people looking for abortion care. stick around. you are going to want to check that out.

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