for watching watching welcome to the show. i am in for my friend zerlina maxwell. donald trump's former white house counsel testified behind closed doors on friday to a january six committee. calls for wnba star brittney griner's release from russia go ladder after she pleads guilty to drug charges. we will get all of that and more this hour. we start with president biden signing an executive order to help protect american access to health care. two weeks after the supreme

court struck down roe v. wade, the president said this. >> what we are witnessing was not unconstitutional just judgment. it was an exercise in raw political power. on the data decision came down, i immediately announce when i would do. i also made it clear based on the reasoning of the court that there is no constitutional right to choose. the only way to fulfill and restore that right for women in this country is by voting. we are able to exercise power at the ballot box. let me explain, we need two additional pro-choice senators and a pro-choice house to codify roe as federal law. your vote can make that a reality. i know it is frustrating. it made a lot of people very angry. the truth is this, it is not just me saying it. it is what the court says. when you read the decision that the court has made clear, it will not protect the rights of women, period. you, women of america, you can

determine the outcome on this issue. i don't think the court, or even republicans who have pushed this extreme agenda, they do not have a clue about the power of american women. they're about to find out about you. it is my hope and strong belief that women will and that turn out in record numbers to reclaim the rights that have been taken from them by the court. let me be clear, i wish it has not come to this, this is the fastest route available. i am just stating a basic fundamental notion. the fastest way to restore roe v. wade is to pass a national law confines roe. i will sign it immediately upon its passing. we cannot wait. extreme republican governors, legislators, and republican extremists, all of them have not only fought to take away the right, but they are now determined to go as far as they can.

the most extreme republican governors have taken the court's decision as a greenlight to impose some of the harshest and most restrictive law seen in this country in a long time. these are the laws that not only put women's lives at risk, these laws will cost lives. what we are witnessing is a giant step backwards for much of our country. this is not some imagined horror, it is already happening. just last week, it was reported that a ten year old girl was a rape victim. ten years old! she was forced to have to travel out of the state to indiana to seek to terminate the pregnancy that maybe saved her life. that last part of my judgment. she was ten years old, ten years old! she was raped, she was six weeks pregnant. she was traumatized. she was forced travel to another state. and legend peanut little girl. i'm serious, just imagine being

that little girl. ten years old! does anyone believe that it is the majority view that this should not be able to be dealt with? any other state in the nation, a ten year old girl should be forced to give birth to a rapists child? i can tell you what, i don't believe that. i can't think of anything much more extreme. >> the president said that this court has made it clear, quote, it will not protect the rights of women. the answer joe biden said is for us to vote. in the meantime, his executive order aims to expand access to abortion pills, protect access to contraception, and ensure adequate emergency medical care for patients. this comes at a time when the need could not be more urgent. there is a portion of abortion banned in some states. mississippi, the states only

abortion clinic shut at stores on thursday. biden's executive order comes after mounting criticism from democrats over the administrations tepid response to the supreme court ruling. it raises the question of whether the president will also heed the calls of members of congress to use executive orders for bold action on other issues like student debt, immigration, and climate change. here to break it all down with us is doctor, ojibwe in, and reproductive rights advocate. this is a good friend. doctor, let me start with you. it's this enough? >> the executive order is a great start. i do wish it had more urgency. the patients that we see, the people that we care for, they need action right now. they need protection now. well i am so glad for some protection around the issues of medication, abortion access, and protection around travel out of state, i do wish that we

could see more broad protections and urgency in this matter. >> one of the things that i found striking, he is using this has an opportunity to use his pen for executive action. he wants to communicate where he stands on abortion care. could we expect him to do something similar to what donald trump did? trump used the power of the pen to communicate to his supporters what his priorities were, even if he knew they were going to be thrown out in court. he would make it the courts problem. can we see the president doing this now, not just on abortion care, but on immigration? maybe even on gonna for more climate change? >> sure, he could. he is doing it on the roe v. wade decision. this points out an inherent weakness. many things under presidents are under their control, he is trying to bring things into their control. he is mostly trying to convey

to his supporters and his critics on the left, the right is always gonna be a critic, he wants them to know that he is doing something. many people are upset about the way that biden's governing. i expect that if we had a parliamentary system, you would see joe biden right where boris johnson was yesterday. i think he'll be outfitted by his own party. >> would you tell him to use the power of the pen more often? >> but the president has to do is learn that he has to get out of this legislative mindset of these small process. the president has a powerful poll that he can used to convince the country of the direction in which he is going. the problem is that he has not articulated a very strong vision. yes, critics on the right will always criticize him. he will have some critics on the right left. if he can get a majority view that is a large percentage of

democrats supporting his view, people in the middle and some people on the right may support him. he would then have a governing mandate. as it is right now, he keeps peaking issues that are divisive. abortion is a divisive issue. it cuts down the middle. some people see it as an issue on both sides. they will be motivated to vote. they cancel each other out. it is not a winning issue for a presidential mandate. >> i don't know if the majority of folks are right down the middle of that. we know that a majority of americans do believe in abortion accents, men and women. i want to ask the doctor about how we are fighting the noose -- if women take certain medication, they may be denied certain access, it can cause a miscarriage. talk about that. >> that is a great example about how legislative interference in the medical process has a far-reaching impact. nine medical people could not

anticipate it. when we try to legislate medications around the issue of pregnancy, people who have the ability to become pregnant will be denied basic health care like the medication you are referring to. the people who are trying to provide health care are worried for their own safety in their own legal status as they are trying to navigate this new world that we live in posttrial v wade. >> rick, i want to ask you this, one of the things that was most striking with the president, he said, quote, and we heard this at the beginning of the hour, quote, what we are witnessing was not a constitutional judge judgment, it is next size and raw political power. here he is talking about a court that is supposed to be nine political. he lays out that we now have an activist court. what does that tell you? how does that implicate the court itself being impartial? >> i don't think that is true.

i am surprised that the media is so surprised that a conservative court has conservative rulings, one out of the other. conservatives could argue that it is joe biden who is exerting raw political power by trying to override the courts decisions via executive order. he can certainly do that. this is a tool that he can use. it is a weak tool. any of the next presidents in line can easily withdraw those mandates. they are not codified into law. it took congress nearly 50 years to codify roe v. wade into law, they never did it. they could have done it in 2008 when barack obama had almost the majority in the senate. he didn't do it. they are now scrambling to get it done. this decision goes back to the states. to clarify, i didn't say that access to abortion may or may not have a majority area in position. what i am saying, what

motivates people to vote or cast a ballot, that is a small percentage. those people do indeed cancel each other out. look at the states. the majority of states actually have restrictions for abortion. i think there are 13, maybe 16 states have actually codified roe into law. most have not, most have restrictions. >> all right. thank you for your clarification. thank you for joining us. >> coming up, japan former prime minister was assassinated. we go to the ground to cover the latest in japan. we will be right back. e latest in japan. we will be right back. we will be right back. hi, we have an appointment. and every new business that just opened! like aromatherapy rugs! i'll take one in blue please! it's not complicated.

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in decades, and decades. i am told going all the way back to the late 30s, mid 30s. and it is a homemade weapon. i've only seen a photograph of it. one thing that did strike my, get my attention. that this is the first use of a weapon to murder someone in japan, and i think that we have thus far had 3688 or between three and 4000 cases in one. but one. >> that was president biden friday, speaking about the stunning news of the assassination of japan's former

prime minister shinzo abe. he was the longest serving prime minister, leading the country for almost -- years. he was leaving for health reasons. he was campaigning when he was shot from behind. he was airlifted to the hospital, and later pronounced at. the shooter was taken into custody. but it is important to note, that this type of violence is extremely rare in japan. a country that has one of the lowest rates of gun crimes use for who staked gun laws. joining us now -- . can you tell me right now, what is the situation? >> the situation is that the country is in disbelief, disbelief that of former prime minister was gunned down in broad daylight by a gunman who is now in custody with the police which is in the western part of japan. the police have told us that he used a homemade gun made of wood and metal to fired two rounds. the doctors that treated the

former prime minister said that there were two bullets ruins around here, from the neck area. that pierced his heart and had rounds and rounds of transfusions. the former prime minister blood out and was pronounced dead about 5 pm local. we also know from police that they have found other weapons in the home of the suspect, who is a 41 year old male. unemployed, he said that he had a grudge against the up group that he believes had some kind of relationship with mr. abe but we do not know. as you say this kind of violence, let alone gun violence, is unheard of in japan. i fear we will wake up tomorrow and japan is gonna be waking up to a new reality. >> all right, thank you so much for joining me kaori. and my heart is with you in the folks of japan, it is an incredible country, and i know that abe was able to bring so much into the 20th century.

he described the rights of women and the democratic principles. my heart goes out. >> also joining us is clint watts, senior fellow at the forward policy research institute. he is also an nbc analyst. i wanna talk to you about what we are learning from this gun. as you heard it kaori say, this incident. civilians having access to that is so highly rare. can you talk about this? >> yeah, what's remarkable when you compare the united states versus japan or the european union is the lack of access to weapons, which really is commensurate with their low level of mentalities in using such weapons. if you're in the uk during the terrorism era, during al-qaeda, it saw daily attacks. or you would see smuggled in weapons that were in the paris and russell attacks. japan is even lower. it is probably the most controlled subsidy for weaponry

across the board. and in terms of handguns, or even long guns, it's not press it there. so i think it is highly unusual. but i think that what makes sense is when you look at it, it's a handmade weapon. something somebody created. cause you wouldn't be able to go out, like you can in the united states, and buy a weapon. >> so clint, i want to talk about the psyche that happens for world leaders when they see someone who is held in such a seam gunned down in broad daylight in. i know one of the things that the united states, and a lot of public officials behind closed doors are rattled by, is the decreasing stability for the political volatility that we are saying. can you speak to that? and what we can learn about the japanese reaction from this potential killing to what we can do in the united states? if any new rules should be applied or lessons learned? >> yes, specifically the japanese environment and

political officials there. i do not know. but the consistent trend worldwide, since the age of social media, has been increased violent rhetoric. particularly around political speech. and what you see overtime, is what we call star casting terrorism. which means up target is picked, and it is part of a broad of's social media discussion. it brings anger. and there is an unaffiliated, or random actor who chooses to take on violence for behalf of that cause. i think that's what we're gonna be looking for in the next 2 to 3 days. will investigators get a better handle on what motivated this person to kill in this way? a connection to a group, the group is now well-established or said as of now. but i do worry about the connotations that we hear in the west of people being associated with anonymous, or unknown groups. political conspiracies if you will. i think that would be the key thing to flush out. because this is an individual that was no longer in power.

no longer ruling over the country. so it's a little curious that he was targeted in such a way. and i think the motive, when they start to boil this down. it could get quite confusing quite quickly and be similar to what we have seen, really, in the united states over the last few years. >> clint watts, thank you for the analysis. i know what we have seen in other countries is often targeting -- as a potential to kill potential public servants. thank you so much. coming up, white house counsel pat cipollone sits down on the record with the generous's committee. what this means for his next public hearing. we'll be right back! generous's committee. what this means for his next

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donald trump's former white house counsel, pat cipollone, he was on white house -- he was behind closed doors in front of the committee investigating january 6th. his testimony comes after last week's blockbuster appearance by former white house aide, cassidy hutchinson. it included this account of a conversation that she said she had with the white house counsel on the morning of january six. this was prior to the rally in the attack of the capitol. take a listen. >> i saw mr. cipollone right before he walked out that morning. ministers if alone is said something to the effect of,

please make sure that we don't go up to the capitol, cassidy, keep in touch with me, we are going to get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen. >> can you imagine, every crime imaginable? joining us now is a former u.s. attorney. what can we expect now from cipollone now that hutchinson has testified? she basically said that the president knew the stakes were. >> yeah, i think her testimony was really essential to shaming pat cipollone into testifying. he had spoken informally with the committee before. he had dodged a subpoena before now. he finally agreed to voluntarily sit down with them. i think it was because she came in and put him at the heart of all of these meetings. they worked out an agreement where he does not have to testify about everything. he does not have to talk about, for example, his conversations with donald trump. i believe the committee could win court battles over whether these conversations are --

whether they go through that delay, they have agreed to talk about certain topics. those topics are important. one is the meeting with the doj officials. pat cipollone referred to the plan as a murder suicide pact. they wanted to reach out to georgia and tell them there were irregularities in the election. the other was the meeting with john eastman, he is the architect of the plot to throat electors that did not go trump way in swing state. there was meetings with members of congress that could support that theory. finally, january six itself. there are lots of grounds for fruitful disclosures to come from this testimony. this is someone who is in the heart of these conversations. >> barbara, as someone who has practiced law and heard this, we are closely following this, what would you be looking for out of this testimony? >> the thing that they want to

know it is donald trump's intent. we mostly know what he did. we know about the rally, we know about his failure to stop the attack. we want to see indications that he knew what he was doing was harmful. we want to know that he did not have authority to do what he was doing. we need to know that he knew the election was not stolen, that he had legitimately lost. i think that those conversations may have included members of congress or department of justice officials, john eastman could really show what was really going on at the middle of the schemes. was this a good faith effort to challenge a close election? was this an effort to overturn an election? i think that is the kind of evidence that we're looking for today. >> barbara, one of the things we have on record is encouraged by trump. don't worry, we will take care of the rest. what does that mean? is that not enough of a smoking gun? >> i think it is really

powerful evidence. i don't know if it is sufficient to prove a criminal case of guilt beyond reasonable doubt. it certainly suggests the fraudulent intent. there's the context of that statement. it comes after the justice department keep telling donald trump that none of these schemes that you keep raising have any merit to them. we have run these down. there is nothing there. i think it came right after jeffrey rosen said that he can't just snap his fingers and find fraud. that is when donald trump said i, well, can you just say there is fraud and leave it to me? this is different from what we are seeing with the committee or in media reports. you have to disprove the negative. is there any good faith defense that he might raise here? that is what you have to anticipate in the trial. you really need to talk to any one. read every document to try to ascertain whether there is any possible innocent explanation for what he did. >> do you have one so far from

what you have heard? >> no. >> i just wanted to hear. >> he had to turn over every stone to make sure you won't be surprised in trial. >> barbara, thank you for your time and your insight. coming up, britney griner is still in russia after pleading guilty. what is this mean for her chances for getting back home? we will talk about that right now. back home? we will talk about that righ now. now. -seriously? -denied. can we go back to meeting at the rec center? the commute here is brutal. -approved! -[ altered voice ] denied! [ normal voice ] whoa. hi, i'm eileen. i live in vancouver, washington and i write mystery novels.

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nationals. >> of course, griner is not the only american wrongly detained in russia. another -- guy they express their frustration after britney griner's wife got a call from the president and vice president last week. they spoke with members of the administration, including some white house aides. joining me now is david roe, he is the executive editor of the new yorker.com. thank you for joining us. what is the situation? and was it appropriate for her to plead guilty or come home earlier? >> it is. i think it's a strategy that resolved the court case. which the russian system can drag on for months and months. roughly 99% of defense and are found guilty in the system. it's really not a good system for the fans. so she's trying to resolve this legal question. and then see if the united states and russia can do some

swap to secure her release. in the beginning, her wife and her family were very quiet. and hoping that there would be some quiet moments to get her released. but that did not work. i understand the guilty plea, and i understand what's she is trying to do. and you mentioned yourself, the biggest issue worldwide, the not just people run held in russia, but there are at least 40 americans held around the world in foreign regimes. it's not terrorist groups anymore. it's venezuela, it's russia, it's iran. and it's a huge problem for the biden administration. and i think the way to resolve this case is in a prisoner swap. >> but i think the prisoner swap, the person that they are talking about, seems to be quite something. he is a former arms dealer, victor. and they say that the russians are saying that maybe they should exchange people for her. it's delicate. but he is a real bad guy. and tell us about it. it seems like an asymmetrical

swap. >> it is asymmetrical. and i think that they unfairly arrested brittani. she mainly had traces of a small amount of marijuana in her baggage. that does not deserve a russian jail sentence of ten years. she is a political prisoner, upon. she is very prominent. and putin is using her. and to be honest, i was held captive myself. but i told them many years ago, there is a big debate. the reward people who carry out these things? i think there needs to be a long term strategy from the biden administration that punishes the governments that do this. for the person that trains and puts sanctions on them. the but i think the only way to resolve the case that this point are prisoner swaps. it is lopsided. i would like to see britney griner and paul traded for victor. he is a very much more serious criminal. he served 15 years of his sentence. i am biased, but this is a

growing problem for the united states. so many people, and such an amazing person, athlete, like britney griner. being top caught up in this terrible situation. >> the fact that you bring up that this is increasingly a tactic used by foreign regimes. you are also touching on the point that putin is doing this in relation to the war in ukraine. can you connect the dots for us? and what is the administration do to prevent this from happening for? there >> i think it started with iran. iran is the biggest defender. they her held american journalists for many years now. there are least four americans that remain there now. they are incredibly frustrated as well. there are multiple americans being held in venezuela also. so it has been a radical change. five years ago, certain groups were insurgence. and now governments are trying to do this.

and i guess i would repeat again, i think there has to be a long term strategy where, the u.s. government focuses on. not on the search term to just resolve one or two things. but there are countries in the long term who do this. and that is the only answer here, a long term strategy. it's an unacceptable behavior by states. it has to end. >> david you are absolutely right because as the world goes on, it is horrible. we seem to have more increases and fascist regimes. we don't want them to use it as a tool. and thank you so much for joining me. coming up! derek's fellow tensed in a federal courtroom. is this the beginning of shift when it comes to the treatment of law enforcement from the law system? one activist has to say about. this will be right back! gives us the dual action effect that really takes care of both our teeth sensitivity as well as our gum issues. there's no question it's something that i would recommend. system

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thank you so much for joining me today. what is your reaction to the sentence that derek chauvin received? >> in many ways, this is a good thing. there is accountability for derek chauvin. here is the thing, -- the highest number of convictions ever in a given year since we started recording in 2019 is 11. that is just 1%. derek chauvin's conviction, now twice at the local and federal level, these are allies. we don't see this happening. derek chauvin's case, it took the police chief himself testifying to even get this. it is good. it is running concurrently. this is still really rare. i don't want people to think that this happens often, it does not. >> you and i both know that it is super air. i want to talk to you a little bit about digging into a chant time machine. you and i were in a room with president biden. it was president biden and then president barack obama. we were talking about reimagining a 21st century

police force. in that, there was talk about collaboration with communities about holding cops accountable for killings. can you talk about where we have come and what needs to finish in the biden ministration to address these fundamental pieces that we can say a broken when it comes to accountability? >> one of the saddest thing is that we have pumped into policing. outcomes and data show that more money leads to more safety, not more money for the police. there was an executive order around policing. the use of force was good for the federal agencies. president biden only has control over the federal agencies. border patrol has 20,000 officers, it's one of the biggest agencies in the united states. that executive order is a good model in a lot of ways. in terms of what we see around the country, there are 16 or 18,000 police departments. accountability has not changed much.

think about maryland. it is the first state bill of rights for police was appealed. it was just repealed a year ago. that is probably one of the biggest winners that we have got in the past couple of years. >> what would you say right now they were to reconvene that task force? will you tell the president needs to happen? >> so many things. i think the president should model what accountability looks like. think about those border patrol agents who are bidding up haitian migrants. they should fire those people immediately. think about what they are doing in communities around the country. it is not too late to discipline those people. i think the government can very quickly model what it means to hold police accountable, what it means to put the money that is devoted to policing in other places that we know actually do stop crime. there is a study out there that shows for every ten community groups that do nonviolence work, community building work, violent crime decreases by 1%. this is proven, this is not

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protecting those brought into the u.s. as children. a policy that was made temporary, but legislation that was never passed. now thousands of recipients born in the u.s. and gone to school here, work here, have family here. are anxiously awaiting the decision that could end their lives and lead to 6000 deportations. joining us now is what, he is a former -- and a former daca recipients. great to have you with me today. talk to me about where we are right now with this court case. >> well, we just came off the oral arguments. so we are expecting some type of position from the fifth circuit of appeals court. any day now, we didn't expect one then. but unfortunately, the trajectory of the wait for the way that they behave on immigration specific cases does not give us a lot of hope that this court will ruled in favor of daca recipients. which puts it back in the court

of congress to and that immigration legislation that would offer -- for daca recipients and dreamers as soon as possible. >> one thing that is striking is so many of the individuals that receive that are no longer in their teens. some of them are now in their mid 30s. and that's why i can't understand. can you speak to how that experience has impacted your life and the decisions that you have made? >> yeah, i'm so glad that you bring this up. because when i decided to do this work on immigration, and the dream act. and it eventually led to daca. i was 17 years old. i am now 32. i recently got married, i was able to adjust my status through my spouse. unfortunately, it's not the reality for a lot of people. and due to the lack of immediate legislation from congress. people have been facing a lot of fear, and a lot of, stress. about very common things that

happen in everyday life. family planning, buying a home. you know, building a new business. because they don't know whether or not this program, and how large longer it is going to last. so the absence of any kind of congressional action, and legislation of it being signed into law. people who lived their lives, basically from court case the court case. and that is one of the most un-american ways to live. these are young people like myself, who came here, grew up, went to school. built a business. but, homes continued to contribute to the communities. and unfortunately, this is the reality that we are facing. back here, ten days to await another court decision that will impact the future of daca recipients. >> what, i think one of the things that people don't realize is really much terror in communities with daca folks.

over 16 million americans live with mixed status families. and then we have people like governor abbott, who yesterday announced that he was going to allow state troopers to have the function of immigration enforcement. because that is federal law. can you talk about this? because people forget the real terror that we are living in until congress does the right thing to pass comprehensive immigration reform? >> absolutely. i think governor abbott in the state of texas are probably one of the most glaring examples of what happens in the absence of federal law. going unchecked. texas has, unfortunately, continue to be antagonist. towards immigrants. specifically undocumented immigrants, refugees, asylum seekers. and it is becoming a very hostile environment for anybody to essentially go there and try to build a better texas for everyone. same thing is happening in my home state of florida, for example, were governor desantis

has taken a heavy hand. we just came out of a very dark period, four years of the trump administration antagonizing, and trying to criminalize immigrants. and i think, you would've thought that congress would take a page from that, for years that we lived down there. and try to prioritize something as quickly as possible. even if it's to protect a sector of the community. and for us, it is an unfortunate reality. we're gonna have to continue to witness a lot of this cruelty at the head of state, and local elected officials. going to the congress action. which is why i'm calling on congress to help on this as soon as possible. we cannot wait until, a new president or a new congress is set. we need to make sure that we take it action as mediately as possible. >> juan, here's the thing what we're seeing right now with governor abbott. what he's increasingly saying is if you look undocumented,

you could be asked for your papers. not only is that against the law, but that is racial profiling and being bold. and we don't have anything from the government on this, and they're not being as outward as they should be. if you were to sit down right now with members of congress, or even the president. the president today made an unprecedented move and he used his pitch to talk about women getting abortion care. would you like to -- and i'm gonna use the power until congress sorts itself out and remedies the problem. what would you? do >> i think ultimately, it is up to the community to stand up to governor abbott and to any sort of republican that is trying to essentially exercise very beautiful -- brutal immigration tactics. we saw what happened in arizona, espy ten 70. ultimately, he got voted out of

office. and i would very much worn governor abbott about how history repeats itself. and look at what happened in arizona. for the democrats? i have to be honest. i think ultimately, they have to essentially take a page out of their basic community organizing. they need to listen to the means of the people. and make sure that the president does not wait, congress does not wait until another crisis unfolds. until another governor passes another executive action. until another radicalized state legislature passes a bill to take action. we can take action right now! the situation does not have to get any harder for hardworking immigrants. hopefully americans. for them to take actions, whether be by executive action through the white house, or through legislation in congress. all they need is pulled decision making, and making sure that they are sure of

other convictions which is standing with a community across the country. >> juan, thank you so much for being and i have the kit, and standing on with a real values are. thank you for joining me today. before we go, the supreme court's most recent term officially ended officially last week. and this week, we saw a handful of defeats to americans rights. we saw a constitutional rights with abortion, and striking down gun measures. they weren't exactly surprising. again and again, the court has launched the country to the right. and just before the clock ran out this time, we got on the side where the court will push us next. on the final day, the court agreed to hear a case called more versus harper. we need to pay close attention to this one. it's about congressional maps drawn by republicans after the census. but the case is much bigger. it will test a doctrine known

as the independent state legislator theory. and what powers state legislatures have to make the rules gathering federal elections. it's worth calling out the supreme court's decision to hear the north carolina case for what it actually is. it is a power grab. the supreme court already ruled against the republican case, but here we are. bracing ourselves for the supreme court to strike another powerful blow to our voting rights. president biden can expand the court. he keeps the meringue. but we are at war for publix democracy. he can also have jurisdiction in cases. as it does before. it all comes down into what happens in november. that does it for me! i'm in for zerlina. be sure to follow us on facebook, twitter, facebook, and youtube. you can stream the show, and a lot of your other favorites nbc host anytime you want. there endless send the hub. find it on peacock, and stream it all whenever you want!

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