that wraps it up for me everybody. i'm yasmin vossoughian. i'll be back here tomorrow 2 pm eastern. symone starts now. >> good evening. i'm michael steele in for who symone who is off today. coming up this hour, wrongfully detained, that is how the u.s. government describes the imprisonment of britney griner, paul wayland and other americans. now they're griner has admitted to drug possession, -- >> donald trump's former white house counsel pat cipollone is

cooperating with the january six committee. what is more than eight hours with the panel signals for next week's hearings. plus president biden signed an executive order protecting health care access, and important move, but not's -- your you're watching symone and we have a lot to get to. the wnba is holding its all-star weekend this weekend without one of its biggest stars, britney griner, who has been detained for nearly five months in russia. this past thursday, grander pleaded guilty for the possession of vape canister, which russian authorities that contain cannabis oil. though she insists the canisters were packed

inadvertently. the author, -- writing in part i'm terrified and might be here forever. the president hasn't written back to britney griner and spoken with her wife cherelle griner, who expressed hope and resolve to -- and wrongfully detained americans in russia. here she is at a press conference yesterday. >> i want to make it very clear that our next move in supporting bg's to make sure the administration understands as they have our full support in doing anything and everything is necessary to bring bg hone and as well as any of the lawfully unlawfully obtained detained american. >> -- he's a national action president and host of ms beasts politicsnation. reverend al, thank you for being here. paul whelan does another

prisoner detained. his brother just cried the deplorable conditions he was living. and you mentioned it yesterday's press conference that britney does not have access to the news that isn't aware of the million standing with her. can you speak to the level of isolation that griner is experiencing right now? do you have a sense of the conditions that she's being held in? >> well in speaking with cherelle his or wife, i know that she has not been able to even have a phone call in almost five months of being incarcerated. with cherelle. she has not been able to talk to her parents. she has no idea what's being done to get her released, other than through her attorney's. she is in a jail where 98% of the people cannot speak english. she has no way of communicating. she, i understand from cherelle, she is transported from the

court hearings which are two and a half hours away from the prison in a vehicle too small to handle her six foot nine frame. so it is a very bad. i think that is even more frightening as she expressed in her letter. one of the reasons that i am the national action network got involved is that when it first happened, we mentioned it, i mentioned on politicsnation even, that we heard radio silence. finally, after about four months, i said, wait a minute, let me try to go visitor her. -- that of course britney's letter to the president got a lot of attention. the lack of public outrage and response from the highest levels of government is well was something that i felt had to be dealt with. i agree with the whelan,'s they've been there four and a half years wayland's been in jail. we cannot normalize people

being held in russian jails on very, very suspicious reasons. >> reverend, you mentioned that you've reached out to the russian orthodox church to advocate for griner. what has been their response? will that also translate for will and another? so >> i think that the response has been courteous but not really answering the appeal. i reached out to them to say, when i would like to help is to get release of all those are held, which is where london britain are, as well as the least you could do is support, because they do have influence untold with putin, that we can at least have a clergy vicious it. everywhere in the civilized world, prisoners are given the right to talk to clergymen for their spiritual nourishment and to really exchange with them what they need to go through whatever they're going through. and i talked to some of the

heads of the russian orthodox church in the united states, as i said, they were courteous, there were noncommittal. we'll get back with you reverend. we'll get back to you. i heard nothing that has been conclusive for even encouraging. we intend to share and stand with cherelle and others. and president biden, who has now made his commitment to do whatever is necessary. now that britney has pled guilty, should the towards the end of the trial. she will be making a statement i understand on thursday, which is the next court date on what was her non-intention, where she was not intentionally breaking the law. then we will see if that leads to a verdict. once that happens, it opens the door we feel, we hope, we don't, know no one's said this to me, but we hope, once that trial is over, it opens the door to begin negotiations with russia. you have two people in jail that are no longer under any kind of trial situation. >> reverend al sharpton, as, always thank you very much sir.

here to unpack renders detention and what it means is historian -- and former state department senior adviser maria -- welcome to you both. now pull back the curtain for us for just a moment, and help us understand. what do these negotiations look like in situations like this? one of the options that are available to the biden administration to bring britain in the others home? >> this isn't about rule of law and whether or not would britney did was wrong or not. kimberly can speak to that also, about what actually is russian law, versus the amount of time that brittani has already had to put in jail which is somebody will be on something domestically somebody would have to pay for a small amount of marijuana. this is about -- and the orthodox church is -- but but also the oppression of lgbtq people. britney griner was somebody who

had been going to russia for ten years to play sports, to make money that she could not make here in the united states. she is a known public figure in russia. putin took the opportunity to scooper up, put her in prison, and turner into a political hostage. what is left is now to deal with this in the context of the war between the united states, nato, and russia, which putin has very little leverage against united states. so he's going to make the united states pay for britney griner. >> kimberly, what does this tell us about this type of detainment and how it might unfold? especially given that britney's pleaded guilty and that impact as may have have getting your home? >> the russian legal system, you acknowledge your guilt, acknowledging your guilt as kind of its way to signal to the core, especially this early

in the trial, they're looking for leniency. but we have to emphasize that leniency in the russian court is not necessarily us sentence below the just prescribed sentence, which in britney's case, it's 5 to 10 years. -- you have to kind of keep that in mind thinking about her upcoming trial on the 14th. another issue is, this isn't an issue, it's a positive thing when you think about the strategy for what she would acknowledge her guilt, but also emphasized that she did not end to break russian law. this shows that she respects russia law but also it allows this process of a possible prison exchange to start happening quicker. when she's convicted, it's usually when we start seeing russia engaged in any type of conversation about a prisoner exchange or presidential pardon from president putin. >> --

miss griner being there for ten years. very few people know she's been going to rush over for sometime. this was not just a pop-up trip. when athletes like her, prominent athletes like her americans visit, when you speak to the preparations they undergo? is any of that done through the state department for example? today help them understand the dos and don'ts of the don't get caught? >> they are worn and prepared to deal with the fact that you cannot express your full identity in russia. you are not supposed to be carrying a massive amount of marijuana. but the local rules are. that you have to respect the local rules. but the whole reason she was there is because she, as the star of the wnba, makes $250,000 a year. she makes less than a starting player on the nba. there is a domestic aspect to it that we can rectify. everybody wants to talk about free britney griner, the activism has been graded by

keeping this on the radar for russia, but it doesn't solve the problem that we face here at home of wage disparity, discrimination. start going to wnba games if you really care about. there are lot of funds. it's a great, different style of play. we have to put our money where our mouth this, if we want to support female athletes here at home, not just when they become political hostages. >> there is a lot of talk about the prisoner swap that -- kimberly, given his high level crimes, you think there's a chance administration will make that kind of swap for him for griner? another americans like paul whelan and mark fogle? is that conceivable? >> i think it is conceivable because thinking about -- and he's already served over half of the sentence in federal prison. you put that in perspective. he is not getting clear of any of the charges he was convicted of. you've got to compare that to

paul whelan and -- brittney can be facing anywhere from 5 to 10 years. you have to think of the lights the can be saved by having victor released. because he has been an american prison for so long, his connections with russia and around the world are probably nil. so you have to look at the potential harm of releasing victor and the benefits of releasing britney griner and having your home. >>il of what the january six select committee is planning, after eight-hour deposition former white house counsel pat cipollone. what we are learning about how cooperative he was. plus in georgia, fulton county da has her eyes set on key trump allies. the latest round of subpoenas and is it just a matter of time

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efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election, but he was with trump as the violence of the capitol unfolded on january 6th. cipollone's name repeatedly came up during the testimony, a former mark meadows age, cassidy hutchinson. last month, let's take a listen. >> mr. cipollone said something to the effect of, please make sure we don't have to the capitol, cassidy. keep in touch with me. we are going to get charged with every crime imaginable, if we make that movement happen. >> he had something to the fact of, and very clearly had said this to mark, some of the effective, mark something needs to be done or people are going to die in the blood is going to be on your effing hands. >> here to discuss all of these developments and more, is our political panel charles blow is a columnist for the new york times. keith blinken is a former clinton white house aides, and author of the book race against the politics of a darkening

america, and former congressman carlos -- is an nbc political and littlest. welcome, gentlemen all. so keep, it is rare that the white house counsel is called to testify before a congressional investigation. committee members zoe lofgren said after the deposition that cipollone did not contradict other witnesses, which everyone that was going to be a thing. and the committee learned some new information. what do you think the potential significance of cipollone's testimony is at this moment? >> i think pat cipollone's testimony is incredibly important. it corroborates the testimony of cassidy hutchison, it corroborates the information, the case that the january six committee is already making against donald trump. and his inner circle. and, you know, i think it is also important to understand that he came to the committee to testify only under subpoena,

and only after weeks and weeks of the hearing sort of banned during clinton trying telling him to do something. so i think it is critical information idiotically have. we don't know what he said but, if it is not contradictory to what has previously been said, that seems to suggest that the committee is on the right past. also, i just wanna say that i don't think that pat cipollone's hero, in order think that anything people have testified our heroes. because i think that they should have said all the stuff a long time before, before the january six committee hearings actually to park. >> so charles, can he keep is actually making interesting point for me. it is never a sure thing that cipollone was going to testify. so i think a lot of folks who made a big deal about that. is this a situation where loyalty are countries forgiven loyalty to trump, or is there something else at stake for cipollone in office. >> well, i think that during the trump years we got so used to people not doing the right thing, not telling the truth, bowing down to donald trump, that it is sometimes racing to

see people actually do the right thing until the truth. and so, that is a category that supple and even some self in, but he didn't do it until he was subpoenaed to do so. it was an informal conversation earlier, but not this kind of on the record testimony to, before congress. also, i think that we have to just wait to see what this testimony bears out. according to the new york times, he invoked executive privilege several times. he is not apparently the divulging much about his conversation with the president himself. some of what we have heard before our conversations but he supposedly happened with the president directly, others with other people. as for cassidy hutchison, the tides also points out that, although she may not, he may not have contradicted her, they were not asking questions specifically about corroboration. they did not ask him to

cooperate her testimony. that is big, right? so, we have to wait to see what it means to not contradict, but also not the act to corroborate. and that may simply be, it may sound like artful language but it may be that they don't go directly at the issue that a lot of people want to know. can we add people to cassie hutchinson's testimony to say, this is not one person saying this, this is corroborated by several people. they say that what she is saying is in fact true, and they are testimony that is similar. we don't know if we're there yet. >> well, speaking of being there, we know republicans have been there for trump. their loyalty knows no bounds on that. and i want to bring attention to this recent piece from mark leverage, which i thought was absolutely fantastic in the atlantic about trump's self-defense within the republican party. he writes, quote, without the

complicity of the republican party, donald trump will be just a glorified geriatric fox watching golfer. now, in contrast you have the uk prime minister boris johnson, recently resigned this week after mass resignations from his government. and after other conservative party members revoked their support. so, a congressman curbelo, why are republican members of congress so unwilling to follow the summer of example when poor leadership takes the party in the wrong direction? and on seats trump as we saw in the case of boris johnson in the uk? >> well, michael, what a lesson for american conservatives from british conservatives. the idea that integrity is more important than power. the idea that if someone is unfit to lead, or unfit for office, that they should not be followed. the idea that even if it is a little bit painful on the front and, doing the right thing is always better long term.

those are the lessons from across the pond. republicans here have to decide if they finally want to learn those lessons and put them in practice. obviously, some republicans have. but the vast majority have not. i will say about the cipollone testimony, i think michael does have the possibility of being as powerful in terms of the imagery as ivanka trump's testimony, where you have the president's daughter saying that she disagrees with her father in the lie he's promoting. bill barr, who is the presidents attorney general, saying that what the president was doing was terrible and insane. cipollone's testimony can have that impact. and although we know that the trump base will remain, on the margins, this is making a difference. and i don't know it's gonna make a difference for the 2022 election, but the implications for the 2024 election michael are huge. >> so, charles, i want to end up, because we've got about 45 seconds left. lindsey graham, senator lindsey

graham about a republican heavy hitters justify the refusal to cooperate. since we're talking about republican cooperation, with subpoenas by saying, the investigations are politically motivated. how confident are you that the georgia subpoenas, that lindsey graham and others have received will be enforced? >> well that is a whole different ball game, right. so congress mechanisms for enforcement are basically the sergeant in our parliamentarian. that is not what georgia has. so, this is a whole different ball game. this is a subpoena by a grand jury. this is a criminal case. you will show up, he will show up, he will respond to that subpoena. a congressional subpoena is not the same thing as a grand jury subpoena in a criminal case brought by a -- state prosecutor. this is old in ball game where everybody out there in your -- is to keep an eye on what's happening in georgia. what's happening in georgia is very serious for trump, and for

the people around him. >> charles blow, keith blinken, and former congressman carlos kubela. thank, you very much. next, the battle over abortion rights, women here in the streets to urge present biden to push its authority to the limit. i'll ask one of the leaders at the women's march about the president's new executive order, right after the break. march about th march about th president's new executive order, we exercise. i noticed i wasn't as sharp as i used to be. my wife introduced me to prevagen and so i said "yeah, i'll try it out." it works for me. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. how come we don't call ourselves bikers anymore?

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executive order on friday. here is an abbreviated look at what the order does. it expands access to emergency contraception, ramps up outreach in public education efforts on abortion, increases privacy for consumers and patience, and protects mobile clinics. now you are, you are still protesting the president today. in your eyes, has the president done enough? what more is there to do? >> we are calling on president biden to continue to step into his leadership role on this issue so that he can be our champion. and what we are looking for here is a continued path towards executive orders that moves towards his role of government commitment that he made in september of last year. that would also include some more specificity about commitments that he made, and then also some details around the fta approvals, abortion on federal lands, exploration. and basically, we understand you know, we are a realist, we understand there's limits to

the president power. but we do want him to go up to the limit of that power. >> well he went a little bit there, the president had some harsh words for the supreme court. here, let's take a listen to what he said. >> a patient's interim urgency room, in any state in the union. she is expressing, experiencing life-threatening miscarriage. with the doctor is gonna be so concerned about being criminalized for treating her, they delay treatment to call the hospital lawyer was concern the hospital will be penalized if the doctor provides lifesaving care. it is outrageous. i don't care what you position is, it is outrageous. and it is dangerous. >> so rachel, the president can't overturn a decision of the supreme court by signing an executive order on for reproductive rights. it is also a significant political risk for the president. so, what more do you think the president can do? i know you mentioned federal lands legislation or something

like that, but how does he work in the space where he is caught literally between, you know your protests on the streets, and the supreme court on the other side? >> well listen, we are not expecting him to pull a rabbit out of a hat. again, we are realist. we understand that this is a long fight and we are entrenched and ready to make that fight. and what we are looking for from the biden administration is to meet us in that struggle. and so, the best time to have a plan would have been years ago when it was clear that this was the republicans vision or years and months ago when trump packed the supreme court in order to bring this plan to fruition. or, 60 days ago when the leak happened. you know, or two weeks ago when the decision itself dropped. but, the fact is that barring all of that, the next best day is today. and so we would like to see continued use of the bully pulpit, continued pressure on

the democrats, continued executive orders. and so it happened on friday, we want to see that happening every day. and we want to see progressive steps moving forward so that we can get to a place where abortion is as protected as possible. and we have a clear, vision from the administration about how we are gonna get those rights back. >> you talk about planning and, that is an excellent point. you've got cvs, rite aid, an amazon all reporting massive increases in sales for plan b emergency contraception. people in every state are starting to stock up. there is a general interest among republicans to do something more nationally about abortion. so how concerned are you about the potential for a national abortion ban, and what planning steps do you think will be necessary to confront that? >> i am very concerned about a national abortion ban, and the gop's efforts to get there.

which i think is also something that we should be concerned about more deeply. as a pertains to democracy. 80% of the american people did not want roe v. wade overturned, and so this is the action of a number of right-wing extremists who aren't even being responsive to that needs and wishes of their own party. that is 80% of americans, not 8% of democrats. and so i think that, we all need to be very concerned. we all need to be very concerned about the other signals that the supreme court gave in the decision. that lets folks know that they are coming for lgbt rights, marriage equality, perhaps even birth control. and so, i think that having a cohesive plan, both in the streets all the way up to the hill and the white house, it's critical. for us, we are looking to build political power, electoral power, and economic power. we will deliver consequences on all three of those lines for anyone who is not with us. >> rachel, a lyric ammonia, thank you very much for being with us tonight.

after the break, we are heading to highland park illinois, where people are gathering for our rally to honor the victims of monday shooting. and to demand an end to gun violence, and how the communities go coping with the tragedy. and the new information we are learning about the suspects access to guns, stay with us. access to gives us the dual action effect that really takes care of both our teeth sensitivity as well as our gum issues. there's no question it's something that i would recommend.

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you are starting to see some people behind me trickling in, there is scheduled to be a gathering here, to demand change. to an awareness around gun violence. i am here with rachel jacoby, she is one of the organizers of this rally happening today. and rachel, just a month ago you organized another rally around gun violence after those horrific events in buffalo, in uvalde. and have it happen in her hometown, so soon after, what was that like? how are you feeling right now? >> honestly, it is just devastating. we know that gun violence is a contract in american life. and we were here organizing against the horrific shootings that we saw in buffalo, uvalda, tulsa, too many to name, but even then you never really expect that it's gonna happen your hometown. and when it does, our communities just shattered. >> but are you asking for today? how does it go beyond words into tangible substantial change?

>> yeah, we are in a country where there is extremely high levels of gun violence, and guns and the leading cause of death in children. it doesn't have to be that way. so we are here today to fight for a future free from gun violence. every kid, and every single american, can go to a movie theater, go to a mall, go to school, can go to a parade, and not a fear for the lives. >> you know illinois has pretty strict gun laws compared to some neighboring states. some people say that kamala's don't work, they can prevent tragedies like this. what do you have to say to them, what is your response to that? >> well, first we know that that is simply not true. the research shows that gun laws save lives. and in all of this talk about illinois having strict gun laws, what is often failed to be mentioned is that in our neighboring states, there are significantly less strict and more relaxed gun laws. so that means that in states like indiana, iowa, wisconsin, ohio, missouri. they are more lax gun laws make all of us here in illinois even more unsafe. >> so, certainly i'm so sorry

for your community. thank you so much for spending time with us. and will definitely be a long road to recovery, but the message is clear, a lot of folks here demanding change. wanting more gun control. >> nbc's louis mclaughlin, thank you so much. we know now robert chroma was under 21 when he bought an ar-15 style rifle. he did so with help from his father who acted as a sponsor for his son's firearm owner, firearm owner identification. right now the daily beast is reporting the suspect had a long history of mental instability, including several attempts to take his own life. and his family, was aware. this raises some very interesting legal questions about where the suspect's family could be held legally responsible. i am joined now by christine roe think fighter, the cofounder and ceo of moms rising. illinois state police confirmed that the suspect's father helped him with his gun permit when he was under 21 years old.

do you believe that the father, the suspect's father, should face some criminal charges here? some responsibility for? this >> this is such an important question, because as we just heard, guns and the leading cause of childhood death and the united states of america right now. so, trying to figure out how to address this issue should be the top priority for america. to put this in perspective, and i think respective is so important here. there have been 322 mass shootings so far this year, and nearly 23,000 guns in 2002 so far. in that question, this very complex question about how to solve that gun violence epidemic in america, we can inadvertently prepare and pretend that the gun violence epidemic can be solved by parents alone. and that question is at the core of what is happening right now. to put that in context, the overwhelming majority of mass shootings in america, which include racial and religious domestic terrorism, take place

by guns purchased by the shooter who are over 30 years of age. so, as the parents, to your question, who don't like up their guns or who provide access to weapons to kids who have no intent to harm, yes. i believe in many cases, there is absolutely responsibility. but all told, we can't make this into a small personal responsibility problem. the reason we have so much gun violence in america, frankly, compared other nations, is it because we have uniquely bad parents, it's because we have uniquely bad gun laws. there are more guns than people in our nation right now, with very few restrictions on weapons of mass killing. so, to get to the core of the issue, to get to the solution, the age of saving lives, we need bold, federal legislation that the carnage. we need beds on assault weapons, and high capacity magazines like the shooter just used. we need bans on ghost guns, and we need to raise the age at which people can purchase -- 25. that was a long answer, i know. it's a complicated question. >> no, in fact you touched on

the number of things that really kind of draw our attention to the responsibility and role the parents play in all of this. because this is the first time this question of charging parents has come up. ethan crumbley's parents for example were just in court a couple of weeks ago. they have been charged with involuntary manslaughter for not telling the school that they gave their son a weapon before he killed four students in oxford michigan in november. if they are found guilty, do you expect more of these types of charges coming forward, and will that begin to make a difference to the broader point that you are raising. >> i think the crumbling case is an important one in michigan. their son, after they had heard from the school more than twice was a threat to the school. killed four of his classmates, it is awful. it is devastating. and they, got their son for christmas a gun. even though they knew that their son was a risk to the

community. and so i think we are looking at here, is that anytime any person is known to be a risk to the community, and somebody else parents, or other provides them with a weapon, then there needs to be responsibility. now, right now we have other cases where parents or grandparents have turned in their children for being a threat to the community, and save lies. so there are stories on both sides. but the key thing here is, again, we really need to take a look at our gun laws. right now, we have weapons of war in the hands of people of all ages. and that is not okay. >> christian roth and think binary, thank you so. much really appreciate. it for our audience, if you are anyone you know is having thoughts of self harm or harming others, albert bailable. you can call the national suicide prevention lifelong, the numbers there on the screen. one 800, she 73, top. you can also text them. coming up, i will be talking to a wisconsin state senator about

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i am joined now by wisconsin state senator, melissa a cart. senator, welcome. republicans in the state said that the bellagio of boxes were rife with fraud. imagine, right. you're governor tony evers said removing them puts a dent in the armor of democracy. here you is after the ruling. >> i'm just disappointed. i think the decision was wrong headed. anytime we decide to take away one of the things that me an election work in the stay, to make sure more people vote, and many people eligible people to vote is possible, that is a step backwards. so i am really disappointed with that decision. >> so senator, i just want to say that the former national chairman of the republican party, i rely very heavily on the access the drop boxes allowed our voters to have. number one, and number two there has been no fraud

evidence associated with dropbox is. the dissenting opinion for example, called the decision disappointing. but not a surprise. do you agree? >> i do agree. this was not a surprise, to me. though, it is very disappointing. i'm concerned about our democracy. in wisconsin, and frankly across our nation. we know that there were over 3 million people who voted in wisconsin, and 40% of them, roughly, use of ballot drop boxes. in 66 of the 72 counties in wisconsin. we have the most studied election in wisconsin history after the 2020 elections, and we know that our elections were saved, secure, and fair. anything that we do you that is that another road bump, speed bump to democracy, a speed bump presenting people from being able to cast their ballot, or eastern confusion and chaos within the voting realm is backwards. that is not what it is that we should be doing in our nation,

and certainly not in wisconsin. >> so, senator, this ruling leaves a number of questions out there. how election officials know if the ballot person is, it is being dropped off by a person is actually from them. will there be some type of i.d. requirement? how will the board of elections in force this ruling? >> we are waiting for some details to come down from the supreme court ruling. it is very clear that our hyperpartisan supreme court was making a point. a political point as opposed to figuring out how it is to streamline voting in the state of wisconsin. we know that people are still going to be able to put their ballots in mailboxes. and unfortunately, as we saw during our elections in the fall of 2020, our usps ilya system was not reliable in delivering the mail. ballot dropbox as we know, they have been used for quite a long time. not just in this election. and those are secure.

oftentimes, on the patients, libraries, fire stations, most often they have security systems watching what is happening there. and they go directly to the -- offices. we have decentralized elections in wisconsin and we know that it is a system that works. and this is frankly, another ingredient into the pot of the big lie that is being perpetuated by republicans. >> justice bryan hayden wrote a concurring opinion that said in part, this case is about applying the law is written. that, the legislature and governor may wish to consider resolving some of the open questions, the statues present. so, will you and other members of the legislature get at resolving the problems that this really presents? >> i wish i could say we were going to be convening in the capital building tomorrow to take this up and to address these concerns.

i do very much agree that the legislature should be doing its job. but unfortunately in wisconsin, my republican colleagues who control the senate, and the assembly in the legislature and our calendar are refusing to bring us back in. to make sure that we are addressing these very real concerns that our families and our citizens in wisconsin are facing on a daily basis. i know that an election commission is safe, and they are taking everyone's best interest in making sure that our elections are safe and secure. >> so, just very quickly because. did you may mention route mail-in ballots. the court ruling on friday comes one month before the swing states primary elections. the court did not address mail-in ballots, will there be any coordinated effort to collect ballots from the disabled or elderly, and put those in the mail? >> so, we do you know that this ruling does not usurp what the federal government has done to protect people's abilities to

vote. and we know that our disabled runs the neighbors need to have that assurance, that their votes are gonna count in the same way as other folks. so we have a lot of information that we need to be pushing out to folks within our communities, to help them understand how it is that they can vote. and, the disability community and wisconsin is going to be having those backs, and my colleagues and myself on the democratic side of the aisle are gonna do everything we can to pass that message on as well. >> excellent, wisconsin state senator melissa agar, thank you. we will be right back. wisconsin stat wisconsin stat senator melissa (young woman) three? (grandmother) did you get his number? (young woman) no, grandma! grandma!! (grandmother) excuse me! (young woman vo) some relatagar, thanionships gr with time. that's why i got a crosstrek. (avo) ninety-six percent of subaru vehicles sold in the last ten years are still on the road. (grandmother) i'm so glad you got a subaru. (young woman) i wonder who gave me the idea? (avo) love. it's what makes subaru, subaru. you.

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