that's a whole lot of happy campers out there. and it's never too late to join them. get unlimited data with 5g included for just $30 a line per month when you get 4 lines. >> that is it for me. switch to xfinity mobile today. i am alicia menendez. i'm gonna see you back here, next weekend, for more american voices. but for now, i handed over to mehdi hasan. ame >> good evening, alicia. >> how are you? >> i am well, how are you, mehdi? >> i'm very good. it's a very, very busy sunday. i've been watching your show. so much we need to cover. so much more to cover in the next hour. so i hope you stay with us. at least, have a great night. >> really busy week. thank you so, much mehdi. >> oh, yes. tonight, on the mehdi hasan show -- trump makes the rounds as we prepare to learn more about his ties to extremism in the next

set of 16 public airings this week. his niece, mary trump is here with me to discuss it all. and boxes stuck rawlston gave a rare interview this week. but he wasn't really challenged on some of his most offensive and extreme views. later tonight, i will break down what i would have asked him. and we will preview joe biden's politically whiskey trip for the middle east this week. you know, israel and saudi arabia. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> good evening. i am mehdi hasan. it is easy to forget the decline of u.s. democracy isn't just happening in washington, d.c., or via the federal judiciary. it's also taking place at the state level, where gerrymandered state legislatures and gop state courts are also steadily undermining the rights of american voters. take what just happened in the great state of wisconsin. on friday, the state supreme court there, not only banned most drop boxes, and also

called president biden's victory in the 2020 election, polluted, and illegitimate, simply because it make voting easier, and more convenient. but with a far-right justices, saying it could get so much worse than that, because this slate, first highlighted, these justices, appointed by the republican party, also compare the use of drop boxes to elections in the totalitarian regimes of cuba, of the castro, syria under assad, and north korea under kim. no, i'm not getting. these are the comparisons that were made. quote, and i quote, examples of such corruption are replete in history. north korean leader kim jong-un was elected in 2014 with 100% of the vote. raul castro 99.4% of the vote in 2008. while syrian president bashar al-assad was elected with 97.6% of the vote in 2007. even if citizens of such nations are allowed to check a box on a ballot, they possess only a whole right. i am sorry. but if you seriously think the

u.s. electoral process anything like bashar al-assad, if you think our elections in 2020 were anything like north korea 's, then you are not fit to sit on the state supreme court! you should be working, i don't know, infowars. the truth is, in the u.s., in our democracy, how waning it might be, the rise and the use of trump boxes in the 2020 election gave voters in key swing states and access to vote. 24/7 option for returning their ballots, for having their voices heard. in the midst of a global pandemic, lest we forget. look, making voting easier, matters. giving people more options, more days to vote, more ways to vote, that matters, it has value. democracy is supposed to be about having as many citizens as possible, vote, not limiting the poll of voters to a privilege few. so you're updated and outrageous beliefs in an effort to cling to power by minority rule. and if you think this is just a

wisconsin problem, think again. former president trump took to social media platform to argue that the wisconsin supreme court ruling should offend the results in the state, and change the outcome of the 2020 election. if the vote in wisconsin was illegitimate, trump intended, then joe biden wasn't the winner. and he called on the republican speaker of the wisconsin state assembly to act, which is trump and his allies have said before, means decertify the wisconsin 2021 for biden. and they want other states to do that this too. it's bonkers. the former guy was also busy on the rally circuit over the weekend. in part, using his microphone and las vegas to fight the new york state civil investigation against him. take a listen. >> in many cases, however, racist prosecutors should also be vigorously investigated further brazen violation of federal civil rights laws. it's happening to me with a racist attorney general in new york, who campaigned solely on the fact that he would get

donald trump, i'm gonna get him -- nothing about me. i said, who is this woman? is she crazy? little bit, no, a lot? it's been going on for years, this violent crime has gotten worse, and worse, and worse. they devote their time and energy. we're gonna get donald trump. they've been trying a long time to have at that thing. >> such an interesting word from trump to choose to use to describe laetitia james racist. she's a racist. interesting word from the prosecutor of new york state, and she's african american. i'm sure it was purely a coincidence. and the claim that trump made there is -- but he is right that prosecutors have been unable to make any charge against him stick so far. there is a reason he's called teflon dog, which makes it all the more important that merrick garland, the attorney general in d.c., pursue a case against him. and actually prosecute donald trump. imagine, just imagine what trump would feel he be able to

get away with, if he was sitting inside the oval office unprosecuted for a second term. and not just him, but any american president. are our leaders going to be above the law from now on? is that what merrick garland's justice department is prepared to make our standard? is this standard? prepared to decide for the rest of us? i'm not okay with that. are you? this week, we are set to learn more about what happened inside trump's white house on and before january the six's former white house counsel, pat cipollone, sat down with the 1/6 committee for eight hours on friday for a taped interview. >> the overall messages that we have been gathering out of all these witnesses, is that the president knew he had lost the election, or that his advisers had told him he had lost the election. and that he was casting ballots in ways in which he could retain power, and remain the president, despite the fact

that the democratic will of the american people wasn't to have president biden be the next elected. >> that was 16 committee member, congresswoman stephanie murphy of florida, who said she mentioned we will hear some of that testimony from pat cipollone, at tuesday's public hearing. the first of two 1/6 committee public hearings this coming week, which will focus on the role of the oath keepers and the proud boys, in carrying out the attack on the capitol, and what fellow committee member congressman jamie raskin called, it convergence in interests of those domestic violence extremists and donald trump. the indictment against the oath keepers already tells quite a tale. as the new justice department filing in fact, in which prosecutors in the, the violent extremist had a death list. they plan to start killing u.s. government officials on january the 6th, and they did not intend to stop until trump was returned to power. this, in addition to the weapons. we know that stockpiles. this 42 points on the outskirts of d.c., with teams, members ready to ferry them to the

capitol, once it had been secured. we already knew about that. aaron minder, if we need one, of how many lives where a true risk on 1/6. so let's hope that ag garland will not be traveling abroad again on tuesday, or be otherwise engaged. because i, for one, want him to hear what else the committee and its investigators have learned about these domestic violent extremists, who carried out the violent insurrection. i happen to think it's important that the attorney general of the united states they attention to this committee. there is about any convergence between trump and the groups who tried to, and thankfully failed, to overtake the capitol on january the 6th. about their plan to bring firearms to the capitol, it kill officials, until trump was given a second term. these two public hearings, coming up this week, could be crucial. perhaps, we should all stand back, and stand by for them. joining me now is donald trump's niece, author mary trump. she is the host of the mary trump show, and founder of the democracy defense fund, which

would work to elect pro democracy candidates. mary, thanks so much for coming back on this show. i want to start with that viral tweet, which i'm sure you've seen, about your uncle, former president trump, that says, quote, well i'd like to see old dharmi trump wriggle his way out of this jam! trump wriggles his way out of the jam easily. a, well, nevertheless. and we kind of laughed at how teflon he is. but it's dangerous, is it not, to have a former president who sees himself as about the law, and then, isn't actually prosecuted for the crimes that he seems to committed, the federal judges suggest he is committed, and we are no closer to the prosecution of donald trump, as far as i can see? >> mehdi, it's incredibly of interest, but this is not an isolated incident. not only has donald gotten away with doing all sorts of nefarious things his entire life, america has never held powerful white men accountable for anything, going back to robert e. lee. so, it is extremely important

that he be held accountable. but we've heard a lot about the fact that these upcoming hearings are going to connect the dots between donald, the proud boys, the oath keepers. but again, if donald is finally, that is a good thing. but if republicans are allowed to use that as an excuse for them not to be held accountable, we are still in very serious trouble. hundreds -- 150 house representatives, ten senators are basically seditionist's. so, if we don't connect the dots to them, then i'm deeply worried about what's going to happen in this country, going forward. >> well, it's so amazing, mary, is that it all happened in plain sight. i mean, i appreciate the work done by the 1/6 committee and their investigations, to bring out so much of the detail, and the detail is important, especially for prosecutions. but in terms of the big picture,

i don't need to wait for the verdict of history. you and i saw donald trump in a live television debate, tell the proud boys to stand back, and stand by. and you mentioned, we all watched members of congress, hundred, more than 100 of them after the violence, still vote to try and overturn the election. we saw donald trump continue to perpetuate the big lie. we saw him say, go out and fight like hell. it's all there. i feel like, sometimes, you get away with stuff. and when i have discussed this before over the years. he gets away when he gets away with, because he does it in the open. people almost feel numb to it, that it can be that bad. we are used to scandals being behind the scenes, or controversies. >> yeah, he does it in the open, and he does so much of it. so, he's an expert at flooding the zone. but what we see, with what happened in wisconsin that you mentioned, that it's also something we need to pay a lot of attention to, is that he is being enabled at every level, it seems. we have a states supreme court,

essentially saying that we voter suppression, voter subversion are perfectly legitimate tools, but allowing people to vote, legally, is not legitimate. so, it's this entire ecosystem of badness, and that's why we need to -- yes, focus on donald, but not lose sight of everybody, who has enabled him, supported him, and used him at every level of government in this country. >> you are an expert on psychology, aside from being an expert on donald trump. people say, well, if we prosecute donald trump, it will tear apart the nation, it will make the divisions in our nation even worse. it will lead to all sorts of chaos that we cannot foresee. there is a counter argument, is that if you don't prosecute donald trump, it will lead to all sorts of huge problems. we are do you stand on the fallout from the prosecution of trump? i mean, this nation has endured a lot of trauma over the last

seven years, since he came down the escalator. how much more trauma can endure, trump related trauma can endure? >> unfortunately, we have no choice. either way, we have to endure more drama. and on the one hand, though, the trauma will be two more division, and i believe the end of american democracy. and that would be the side of not holding him accountable. holding him accountable will also lead to more problems, potentially violence, because his supporters are the ones who owned the 390 million guns in this country. but that would at least give us some possibility of figuring out a way forward to preserve american democracy. and remember, we are where we are now because of the failures of the accountability throughout history, because people like robert daly were allowed to stay free, and who are pardoned. he was pardoned by president,

jefferson davis was pardoned by president carter. i mean, you know, nixon, yes he resigned. but it was also ultimately rehabilitated. that is one of the massive fundamental problems that has led us to this incredibly dangerous period in our history. >> one last question. you've got steve bannon claiming that he wants to testify, as long as it's in front of the committee. you've got stewart rhodes, the imprisoned, waiting for a trial charged, indicted, head of the founder of the oath keepers. he wants to testify in front of his committee. everyone wants to come in front of the committee on tv, which i assume the committee won't allow. but someone who will be testifying on tuesday, is a former spokesperson for the oath keepers. i just wonder, how much do these is gonna come out about the impact, forget the connection between trump and the oath keepers, just the impact that a trump presidency had a recruitment and energy levels, and enthusiasm amongst these violent far-right groups? you see them as a hero. >> i mean, mehdi, we already have evidence of this. i believe it was one of the

oath keepers, the leaders of the oath keepers was interviewed about the impact after donald said, standby, stand back and stand by. and you know, they started selling t-shirts, and recruitment went through the roof. i think it will be simply just adding more information into the mix, which will be really helpful for people who don't necessarily know the impact donald has had. so, i believe that tomorrow, sorry, tuesday's testimony and there is a system one will be increasingly damning to donald's position. and again, hopefully, to those not just in his inner circle, but those republican members of congress, who have been with him every step of the way. >> whenever i've called donald trump a fascist in the past, or so, he cannot be a fascist. he does not have his own set of militia groups. and i think tuesday, are gonna see more information of the fact that he did, and does. mary trump, thanks so much for your time. always a pleasure. >> coming up, pennsylvania

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roe v. wade, as well as ongoing publican attacks on our democracy. they're not loudly fighting back more. well, here is the one state democratic lawmaker who seems to have that covered. >> we're talking about women dying. we're talking about more than half of the population not being able to make decisions, when not even half of this body has a uterus! but here we are being silenced yet again, and understand when you are silencing us, we are actually elected officials like y'all, so you are silencing millions of voters from every corner of the commonwealth, when you silence us and don't allow us to amend bills that won't let people vote, that won't allow women to make their own decisions. you're silencing all of us! >> that was a house democratic leader, joanna mcclinton, and she joins me now. congresswoman, thanks so much for coming on this show. let's start with what we just heard there, that moment that

went viral. you know, was it planned on your part? were you surprised of the reaction you've had? >> definitely wasn't planned. i'm entirely surprised. all it was with just a natural frustration, because republicans in harrisburg, once again, at a late night, on the last day of our legislative session, angel lie, until we come back until september, or ramming through bad legislation. and i was so frustrated, not just that they were ramming it through, but i'm the leader of 90 colleagues. and they were not allowing our members to seek on the issue or event the bill. it was outrageous and ludicrous. >> on friday, president biden announced an executive order aimed at preserving the right to abortion. do you think, though, that his administration, the white house has done enough. has it shown the same kind of passing that moral outrage that you show in your speech? >> they definitely have a lot of time to get planning, with

the lead of the draft that we all received in april, you don't, we were shocked. we were outraged. people took to the streets, immediately, to let the president know that we want action. so, i was very glad that on friday, he announced an executive order, to add protections to women, particularly in states where the law changed immediately over that weekend. >> yeah, so, having said that, i want to read to you's statement from white house communications director, kate bedingfield, that was made to the washington post. they published a piece on biden's kind of response, slow response, many would argue to the roe decision. quote, joe biden's goal in responding to dobbs, that is the decision to overturn is not to satisfy some activists who've been consistently out of step with the mainstream of the democratic party. a lot of people are angry about that quote. do you think that's the kind of messaging the white house should be using right now? attacking activists, attacking the base, rather than the republicans? so, that is the key. we have to be clear who our

common enemy is. it's republicans, it's not the activists, and certainly not people who are getting people engaged and ready to vote this november in this critical midterm. so, while we could take up time trying to figure out of the statement was right. it is important to know that we are all in the same team, and we have the same common enemy, and that is republicans, who promised to do this for decades. >> before i let you, go and have to ask you about pennsylvania gubernatorial candidate doug mastriano, he supports a six-week abortion ban. he said he believes the life starts at conception, and there should be no exceptions for rape or incest. he is, reportedly, someone who is very close to kristen nationalism, and qanon, even. do you think women in pennsylvania should be worried about the prospect of governor mastriano? >> every woman in pennsylvania, and we're more than 50% of the population here. should be very concerned. not only for ourselves, but for our sisters, daughters, girls

not even born yet. because, he is very clear on where he stands. and the fact is that he's not only close to qanon, but he was at the united states capitol on january the 6th with insurrectionists, we should all be alarmed. >> a good reminder there, pennsylvania state -- joining clinton, thank you for time. stick around, the president defends his controversial trip to the middle east, this week. first, richard louis is here with the headlines -- >> stories to watch for you, firefighters are struggling to protect a grove of giant sequoias, from raging wildfires and yellowstone national park. they're clearing brush around the landmark, as of now, none of the sequoias are severely damaged. at least 15 people are dead, and dozens feared trapped after a russian rocket hit out of our building in eastern ukraine, rescuers are searching the

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beginning in israel, biden's visit follows the killing of palestinian journalist -- on monday, the state department announced that the bullet that killed her likely came from israeli military gunfire, but stopped short of any definitive conclusion. instead claiming her death was the result of tragic circumstances. . meanwhile, israeli officials say that their own investigation was unable to determine who is responsible for her death. biden's visit comes in his another shake up in israel's government, which dissolved last, month paving the way for the fifth election in four years. and, as the israeli military appears to be escalating its policies in the occupied west bank. with the government debating more fines for settlements there, but the last leg of biden's trip could prove even more acceptable. he's set to become the first president to fly from israel to jim, not a radio. a flight which he calls in an op-ed, a symbolic step towards normalization between israel new arab worlds.

biden penned that op-ed for the washington post, the very same paper which employed jamal khashoggi, which according to the u.s.'s own intelligence agency, were murdered by those hired by -- direct knowledge of khashoggi's murder. again, that's not the view of u.s. intelligence. despite all that, he pledged to meet with all the saudi arabian leadership including mbs. responding to criticism, he always said that human rights is always on the agenda. we'll talk with the palestinian lawyer who specializes in the middle east, stay with us. palestinia palestinia lawyer who with nicorette. which can lead to something big. middle east, stay with us. start stopping with nicorette.

>> we are talking about joe biden's upcoming and pretty controversial trip to the middle east. his first, as president. joining me now is diana buttu. she's the palestinian human rights lawyer at the former spokesperson for the palestine liberation organization. the below. diana, thanks so much for coming on the show tonight. do palestinians have any real expectation or hopes for this biden visit? how many american presidents have you seen come and go to the region, without affecting any real change on the ground in the occupied territories? >> well, thanks for having me, mehdi. it's nice to see you again. but i don't have an expectations, president biden, he's made it absolutely clear that all that tends to do is continue along the same path. and that president trump took, by pursuing normalization, by pushing for more and more,

israeli settlements, not doing anything to stop the israeli settlements. he hasn't even made it on his trip to say that is going to stop and see the family of four shireen abu akleh, the palestinian american journalist was killed by israel. it's clear to me that he's going to do absolutely nothing. it's not gonna reopen the embassy, the consulate. all the t's simply doing is, once again, paying service to israel. >> i will come back to serena's death in a moment. i just wanted to another section for president biden's op-ed that i mentioned to you a moment ago in the washington post. he claims, quote, the middle east i'll be visiting is more stable and secure than the one my administration inherited 18 months ago. and then he then touted his administration's accomplishment in the region, such as ending the war in gaza, he says quote, just 11 days. and rebuilding u.s. ties with the palestinians, noting the restoration of a approximately of a billion dollars in support, he and he also mentions the over four billion dollars of aid israel has received. do you buy when the president

is selling? is the region more stable because of his leadership? i mean, obviously, we can refer it to donald trump, but that's a low bar. >> it is indeed a low bar. and i think it's important to bear in mind that under president biden, we've actually seen more and more settlements go up, more and more israeli settlements go up. and we've seen the that israel has used this opportunity to destroy more palestinian homes. there has been no qualitative difference between him and president trump. we haven't seen the embassy move back. we are not seeing the consulate we open. all that we're seeing is the palestinians are getting a few crimes here and there. but the big dollars are going to israel, and the unbridled political support continues to go to israel. so, i haven't seen any qualitative change between the two. in fact, so much so that in this very op-ed, there used to be top of them supporting a two state solution. we don't even see that any longer because president biden has made it clear that he intends to do nothing during his time in office. >> it's a very good point, yeah,

we don't even hear the other side of it, which as you say, it's all with the line, well, we're working on a two-state solution. they don't even want to stress that because they know it's nonsense. let's talk about the tragic, horrific killing of shireen abu akleh, and that report last week on the 4th of july from the u.s. state department. what did you make of their quote unquote, conclusion about israel, likely being responsible, to the tragic circumstances -- i should point out plenty of other media organizations, including al jazeera, where she worked, cnn, the ap, the washington post, the new york times, they've all come to the conclusion that the israeli bullet killed her. cnn said she was targeted by the israeli military. what do you make of the u.s. state department's response? and what should joe biden say or do about her death while in his role? >> you know, i've grown really tired of this sort of word salad that they are trying to toss around, to somehow make it as though israel didn't intend to shooter. this was a very clearly unintentional shooting. she was wearing a flak jacket with the word press marked on

it, in the front and on the back. she was wearing a helmet. and the fact that a bullet managed to go between the spot of where her flak jacket is, and her helmet, and shoot her, this is very intentional. it was clear from the minute that she was killed, and we heard with the eyewitnesses said. and we've seen investigation, after investigation. but what's clear is that the united states continues to want to do israel's bidding. it continues to want to sweep this under the rug. and they put such emphasis on this bullet, as though, in the words of the family, as though it was some whodunnit csi investigation. and no emphasis has been placed on whatsoever on the idea of who did the shooting, the gun, and whether there were high-level orders behind this? instead, they simply ignored it, ignoring years of attacks against palestinian journalists, and other journalists as well. they simply glossed over this, of course, on the 4th of july in order to try to make this issue go away. when i think the president

biden should be doing is a few things. i think first and foremost, he should be meeting with the family. they have very real concerns. they have very real things that they need, that the president needs to hear. but beyond that, i think there should be a real investigation as conducted by the fbi, and by others as well, blas, i think that the united states should not be standing in the way of other attempts to hold israel accountable. it's this accountability that's absolutely vital, and as you know, mehdi, this isn't the first to a citizen to be killed this year. >> but it is a u.s. citizen, so such an important point to make. so it's a u.s. citizen that was killed, and we expect the u.s. president to take it more seriously. diana buttu, thank you so much for the time for analysis. appreciate it. >> thanks. >> next, ben smith had an interesting interview this week with fox this tucker carlson. and i have some thoughts. i actually have a lot of thoughts about how that interview should've gone. which i would've asked? stick around for that. and don't forget, you can listen to the mehdi hasan show,

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many of you who watch the show, you know my background. you know that i love to do tough interviews, hold people to account, ask follow-up questions, and push back against bs. but, i also have a policy on this show of not interviewing people on the far-right. rights white supremacist, as conspiracy there, is bad faith actors. because, there is no point. it doesn't achieve anything other than give them another platform from which to spout there are bile, and normalize their awfulness. if you are gonna do an interview like, this you need to be prepared of what's coming your way. yet, look what happened at the knight foundation this, thursday when ben smith, cofounder of the new news organization some of, for interviewed tucker carlson.

that is a smart guy, and a great journalist, but it wasn't the most promising start that interview. >> i'm just hoping you will let me ask questions, and not steamroll me, because your professional and i'm not. >> here's the thing. tucker carlson may not be good at the kind of things that we expected tv journalist to be good at, but he is good at steamrolling people, especially people operating in good faith, like ben, unlike carlson himself, who again, is a bad faith actor. look at what happened when ben asked carlson to respond to a clip of the fox host, espousing as he does shamefully over the many times this we are so, the white supremacist great replacement theory. >> the center of the democratic electoral strategy, going forward. i'm guessing, they talk about it constantly. you're journalist, you must know this. is to bring in new people who will vote for them. >> let me just finish, if you don't mind. this is not something that i've made up, or found on the internet, i didn't even really

go on the internet. >> okay, first off, that's not true, of course. tucker carlson goes on the internet. most of his show, every night, is dedicated to amplify and some lame right with me more conspiracy. just as past, week he was plain a viral video of the torquing democratic state senator from the internet. second, when you heard him just say, is something you just made up. democrats aren't the ones pushing the great placement theory, neo-nazis. our white supremacists are. racists are. the kind of racists who worked for tucker carlson. ben smith gently tries to raise that issue with the fox host. >> you are, mr. stood perhaps, a lot of them, both by your success -- in [inaudible] also, you keep having but explicit white supremacists, on secret message boards who work for you. >> i've never had a white supremacist -- i've never even met a white supremacist. [inaudible]

>> i'm curious why you've been this flypaper for these people in your stuff. that was the question, why the bin flypaper for the racists? >> i've never had a white supremacist work for me. i don't think i've ever talked to a white supremacist. >> but you may have heard there, in a matter of carlson lovely talking over ben, and laughing weirdly, was been mentioning scott greer and blake matt. if i was doing that interview, i would not have moved on at this point, was to stop and acknowledge scott greer and blake matt -- it emerged that he had said things like, gender equality would, quote, allow for the continuing growth of non white hordes in formerly white countries. greer later apologized for those who remark. and of course, blake matt, who is a top writer for carlson on the show, had to resign after was revealed he sent racist

things to. after it was revealed that veto games were one of only things -- online remarks, as wrong. and, having no connection to his show. but then also attacked nests critics as ghouls. there's a point in the interview when carson wentz out to say, that he was against nazi ideology and racism. that was a moment, that tucker carlson mentioned nazis, i'd love to ask, why so many actual nazis and white supremacist these days, seemed to be quite big fans of, his duty repudiate and condemn their support? instead, he got to freely stay soft like this to this reporter. >> this is why you are considered, correctly, a propagandist, and not a journalist. because i just explained, indeed he tail, with total sincerity, when i believe. you ignored it and invoked mass shooters. >> he is calling other people propagandists. you know what i would've done there, undermined reminded

tucker carlson in front of his own audience. that is open -- as non literal commentary. as exaggeration. in fact, carlson even had the audacity and shamelessness to make this claim. i mean, you will definitely catch me making mistakes, i do five hours live every week. but you will never catch me lying on purpose -- i don't think. i mean, if you can find an example, throw it at me. but, i really try to tell the truth. >> wow. carlson is taunting the interviewer. find an example of me lying. i mean, it's actually not that hard. because, there is so many. here's a full statement a carlson is made on his sharpie, deadly despite the fact checks again and again, despite being told it is false. yet, here he is just last month, making it again. >> just to be clear, in terms, an insurrection is when people with guns try to overthrow the government. not a single person in the crowd, on january 6th, was

found to be carrying firearms. not one. >> that is not true. many people had guns. they've been convicted. he knows it is not true, he's been told is not true, but he keeps saying it. then, again there's just so minute much to hold carlson for account for. there's a new york times deep dive into more than 1000 episodes of the show, which revealed how carlson pushes extremist ideas and conspiracy theories. there's him accusing immigrants of making america dirtier in poor. him suggesting the illinois march should not have been allowed into america. his describing of the threat from white supremacist terrorism as a hoax. his hosting a fox nation documentary, suggesting that 16 was a false flag. that time he told parents that they should hit teachers. or the time he hosted conspiracy theorist michael in del and his big election -- or the time that he claim that getting vaccinated may be more likely to get covid. or, all the times he's found over four in authoritarians

like viktor orban and yair bolsonaro. but but we got saturday, was 90 minutes of carlson's team really the interviewer. it was painful to watch, but at least carlson had fun. >> i appreciate it, i'm glad you could join us, thank you. >> that was fine. [laughs] >> coming up. at the top of the hour, with ayman mohyeldin. breaking news that the former spokesman person will appear as a witness at the january six hearing, ayman will discuss that with a senate panel. i'll be back in a moment with a man to talk about donald trump and vaccine. you will want to hear and see this. trump and vaccine. and vaccine. yo kidding me?! instead, start small. with nicorette. which can lead to something big. start stopping with nicorette [whistling]

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be right back next sunday on a pm in eastern. you can now find a show on the msnbc hub on peacock, stream it anytime. new episodes of the mehdi hassan show on peacock will post every evening on monday through thursday, now it's time to hand it over to my friend ayman mohyeldin, before i go, i have to show you this clip. it's a hilarious clip from a trump rally on friday night in las vegas. have a listen to trump having success in fighting the coronavirus, when he ignored, downplayed, and suggested we could beat it with disinfectant. listen to one part of it, and you will notice where it is missing. >> we did so much in terms of

therapeutics, and we're not allowed to mention, but i'm still proud of that world. is, we did that in nine months, and it was supposed to take five years to 12 years. nobody else could have done it, but i'm not mentioning it for these people. >> i don't know about you, ayman, but i find it hilarious that trump is both so scared of his bags, so scared of the monster he helped create, that he won't even say the word vaccine in front of these crazy anti-vaxxers. but, he is also such a narcissist, that he has to take credit for the vaccine, even if he can't bring herself to say the b word allowed. but i also want to emphasize how much trump is really worrying about ron desantis beating him in the 2014 primary, and running a more explicit anti-vaxxer platform. >> absolutely, it is truly like the mauve has gotten out of control, trump's chickens are coming home to roost. and the irony is that governor ron desantis will devin definitely lead in to the anti

vax movement, and use it as a wedge issue in the 2024 campaign, -- even receive the booster vaccine shot. i'll share your you remember, those trump even called the politicians who weren't the main their vaccine status as got-less. it's interesting to see if desantis uses trump's own and oh against, him with his voters. and, speaking of the next presidential campaign, i'm not sure if you've seen this clip from the new trump documentary, unprecedented, yet. it actually revealed something that i think is very dark about just where trump's has bases >> right now, watch this. you can't have elections that are meaningless. you can't have elections that, if somebody controls the state of georgia, because you know, we have a governor that the poor guy is not knowing what the hell is happening, and the secretary of state, this guy is like a hardheaded rock. >> i think i learned with a 2020 election that you have to be very untrusting. i assume it would be a

straight-up election. it wasn't. it was very unfair. >> i mean, he says it right there. he has learned not to trust elections. and i have a feeling, we will see the maga mob do the same thing with election integrity, that you just highlighted with vaccines. trump and his sick offense that spread lie after lie about our election integrity, the only people who can win elections fairly to the, to that mob are republicans. and we are going to dive even a little bit more into these revelations from that documentary, later in my hour, my friend. so, appreciate it. to you? >> thanks so much. eight mubarak, a man. >> to you as well my friend. coming to you at home. welcome to ayman but. tonight, as abortion rights act advocates -- will speak to an advocate who's been fighting for five tickets on the frontlines. plus, boris johnson steps down as prime minister. why did this play out differently for buttons donald trump? and for political rising star to outspoken mental health advocate, i'm gonna be joined

live by jason kander, about his new book and much more. i am ayman mohyeldin. let's get started. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> it has been just over two weeks since the supreme court overturned federal abortion rights, upending nearly five decades of precedent and ushering in a post roe america. and since then, we have discussed the existential threat that decision poses to the human rights and civil rights of millions of americans. but tonight, i actually wanna focus on often overlooked, but critically important aspect of abortion access in this country. the economic impact. to start things up here is treasury secretary, janet yellen, speaking on this, very issue, just back in may. watch. >> i believe that eliminating the right of women to make decisions about whether to have children would have very