good afternoon, i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters. we start with breaking news. two sources telling nbc less than an hour ago that the january 6th committee is rescheduling thursday's prime time hearing. it's a fascinating development at a time when the committee appeared to be on the verge of wrapping up its case to the american people. instead, we're now looking at just one hearing that's actually on the calendar and it will be starting just 24 hours from now. what happens after that is unclear. we do know there's been lots of new testimony coming in along with new pictures. this is video from the new trump documentary unprecedented released on sunday. it's a stark reminder of the

dangers the men and women in the capitol faced that day. the perils that our nation faced as a whole and the former the president's justification for what happened. >> i went to washington because they were angry with an election that they think was rigged. a very small portion went down to the capitol. a very small portion of them went in. but they were angry from the standpoint of what happened in the election because they are smart and they see and saw what happened. >> among the crowd that day, far right extremists like the proud boys and oath keepsers welcome the focus of tomorrow's hearing along with trump's role encouraging them to march on the capitol. >> the president tweets on the wee hours of december 19th to be there and be wild. it was a siren call to these folks. and we'll talk in detail about what that caused them to do, how that caused them to organize as well as who else was amplifying

that message. >> the committee member who will lead tomorrow's hearing says the committee concept they will explore is the convergence of trump-led efforts to overturn the election and extremist led efforts to carry out an insur rest ex-at the capitol. the only witness know of is a former spokesman for the oath keepers% keepers pictured here on the left. he will testify live tomorrow. what we don't know is we'll hear from the group's leader who is+s something th agreed to. then there's that major about face by steve bannon, and one of the mosted a mapt and vocal opponent's of the committee's worknen who is saying he would testify as well. according to letters, that decisions sa comes after trump he would waive his claim of

executive privilege of so many other republicans and former supporters.iv among the key questions the committee will want to ask, what bannon knew before january 6th. >> on the evening of january o 5th, the president's close adviser, steve bannon, said thic on thiz podcast. >> all hell is going to break loose tomorrow. >> i want to bring in capitol hill correspondent allie vitali, former prosecutor glen kesher in, former communications director for the are rnc doug height, and vaughn hilliard who has been traveling with president trump and joining us from las vegas. let's start with that breaking news. thursday's hearing now being rescheduled. do we know why?enith trump ing >> reporter: my colleague and iy were the first to report that e that hearing is being rescheduled.ring nows it was never officially noticed by the committee. they typically do that a week

out. now they are saying that it is postponed. our sources telling us it's postponed to a later date. you have to enfer thatw they at reason for that is because they are getting new cooperation, not least of all, from the former white house counsel cipollone.r we saw how people were pleading with him to come forward and dom another deposition with the committee. on friday, they got that to the tune of eight hours of questions andhey answers that spoke to, the words of a spokesperson, every key point of the committee's investigation so far, and importantly, that cipollone's testimony didn't contradict any of the testimon a we have already heard, includinv from people like cassidy hutchinson, who made many claims during her testimony, including that cipollone said things like, if trump were to go to thny, capitol, they would be charged with every crime imaginable. andbe what c cipollone allegedl an told mark med dose on the the day of the 6th as the insurrection was happening, if

they didn't do more, there would be blood on their hands. all of those key points in the testimonyappes. and the committee's findings overall. the fact that cipollone can't contradict that is notable. while the committee thought they were doing two hearings, it looks like they will do one as they try to wrap up all of this new information that they are getting and that they could hope to gett o one in fromg an possie steve bannon, though there are some hitches in his testimony that he wants to do this live and in public and the committee has effectively said, not so fast.bannre arehis he >> i just want to make shower we're clear. there's the hearing tomorrow. but another we one could possibly be held maybe next week.bu >> reporter: yeah, it will eek. likely pop up. again, the fact that they are fact finding in realtime as they are telling this story has always been the balancing act e that i have been most fascinated by with this committee. the last hearing is one that we have been looking ahead to for some time now hea it's supposed to focus on those

key 187 minutes while the capitol was under attack and congressman adam kinzinger is supposed to be one of the members who leads whatever that final hearing is and whatever it's rescheduled. he said it's going to focus not just on what was happening here the at the capitol, but heavily juxtaposing what was happening at the white house. it's, but heav why this investi wanted to get close to the former president as they can, as close to being in the room for the key conversations. they managed to successfully do it for things like getting to te inside the department as th of o justice, getting inside the pressure campaign at the state level, but now on this key day of january ofth, itessure makes why they would not just want to pull all the pieces outside the white house to a potentially full insurrection, but alsoing to get as close as they can to the innerts circleide thoing ofn house.le if they can't get mark meadows, the fact that they now have pat cipollone is substantial andt g could make sense for why they

want to postpone the final hearing or what could be the final hearing for this krit 187 minutes that they are planning on doipg. >> the committee has built its case meticulously up to this point. if you weretteecase presenting a closing argument at trial, but maybe witnesses, what would make you stop and reschedule now? what's your thought about what's being big enough? what's important enough or is it maybe just a matter of logistics and beijing able to get everything done?mportant >> not so long ago, they were a imploring pat cipollone to comea forward and testify. then what happened?testif cassidy hutchinson testified about some dramatic communications with pat cipollone and it feels like he then folded his cards and came l in for eight hours of testimony. it seems like they are

collecting information in realtime. i have had this happen in my trials when i was litigating a lengthy case and something a came to our attention. we would say, we are going to need a day or two to corroborate it. and i find ppenhe of feel like the january 6th committee is in a similar posture. >> if you're a member of trump'i innerf fe circle orel a l republican member of congress, does this eo make you nervous? >> absolutely, you're getting more nervous every day. glen used the word presentation. i think that's the exact right term for what the committee has put together. these aren't hearings in the traditional sense. these are presentations of what the committeerm for wittee ha h know is that the committee knows a lot more than we do. we're learning theywhat don't k everything. they get caught by surprise so they have to process new information before they put that back in front of us. and the information clearly the going to be damaging to members of the previous administration or all the way up to theg to president himself.

>> and if you want to talk about steve bannon, this does seem like a bit of a ident hilast-di effort by trump to get somebody out there to defend him. there are people who gave ther incriminaing testimony who said, frankly, they would still vote for him. so does that indicate to you im that trump or people who have his ear are already really nervous about what they have seen let alone what might be coming?real >> obviously, it was a total 180 by steve bannon and speaks to with what we saw in the previous testimony from hutchinsonted spm lot of republicans are nervous. clearly, steve bannon is not testifying to do the committee any favors. i think we can all agree on that. so there will be more of a circus-like atmosphere. i we don't know what he's going to say, but there's nervousness there over either what he knew and when he knewat h it or othe people as well. >> congressman swalwell interviewed bannon during the russia investigation. durin he was on msnbc last night and said, quote, i would expect

zero, absolutely nothing. this guy was like interviewing the joker.rviewi he is insane. what do you think is behind this move? >> chris, this is a ruse. is cs this is a ploy by steve bannon to try to come up with a u half-bake defense. he wants to try to present to the jury in his contempt of i congress trial, look, now i'm willing to testify because now donald trump is suggesting he will waive executive privilege. let's set aside the fact steve bannon never had exec ty privilege to assert in the first place. just today the prosecutors in pr bannon case filed a motion to prevent steve bannon's re defense team from even offering this evidence to the jury that now he's willing to testify. this is a ruse and it will fail. steve bannon really is not somebody who is to be credited. th >> you have been following the former president.

what's saying about all of this? >> reporter: the former president is making himself the martyr in this investigation. he's not running from the existence. he's going to the likes ver the weekend to nevada and alaska and exist>> repr theat'st inth tensee li aignin of the investigation. there's a persecution effort against him.rsec talking about donald trump, ta there's no vailed reference to the way he perceives these political opponents of his. he calls them, quote, evil people. take a listen to him this weekend in alaska. >> the way they go after people that are innocent people, political people, yet they leave killers on the street. they shoot people. despite great outside dangers, our biggest threat remains the g sick, sinister and evil people from within our country.ns t but no matter how big or powerful these radicals may be, you must never forget this nation does not belong to them. this nation belongs to you.

>> reporter: there are no wordso ofng remorse or regret from the former president as it pertains to january 6th. he's openly talked about in the last month issuing pardons if he were to become president again for those charged. the 800 charged by the ut in dor are their connection to thege events that took place that dayo again, when we're talking about donald trump being the martyr for political purpose, that's exactly a what we saw him do with therpos mueller probe and impeachments in the 2020 election. >> let's be clear, in that audience he's speaking to the choir. it's note' like people are comi out to hear him speak who have o to be convinced of what he's say ing. >> reporter: this is also the establishment of the republican party today. that nevada event there where wh hear his remarks this weekend, he had the u.s. senate candidate, he had the gubernatorial candidate, the

secretary of state candidate, the chairman of the cagop partyn here, essentially the republican party of nevada was standing right there alongside of him as he's making this case to the broader lek trait. when heim a comes in to stops, hitting the local air waves and he's pressing the case he's the victim of a political attack here. talking about a sustained effort over the the course of the years, the question is how manyn vil atta more people is he able to bring on board and actually believe that he was, in fact, being area target here by democrats up on capitol hill. >> such important context. let's talk about catomorrow. 24 hours from now, this hearing should be underway. i think one of the interesting aspects here is that theseut tws groups like the proud boys and oath keepers have argued in court. they were calling to washington on the 6th. they believe that because of that they were justified in being there.n 6 so what are the key connections between these groups and the trump inner circle, if not trump himself?key co

>> this is a chain i contend has three links. we know roger stone, among others, had some close associations with the oath keepers. then the kno otse third link in that chain will be from the willard war room right into the white house itself. ch so that's some of what we're hoping for when we hear from people who were high up so in the oathtc(+q)s organiza that's some of what we expect to hear tomorrow. >> we don't know a lot about pat cipollone's testimony. only he did not appear to contradict previous testimony in anypollt ap meaningful way, ape heard from ali. where dwrou think his testimony plays into the the hearings, maybe tomorrow, maybe next, where are they going to focus? >> cipollone's testimony is going to be key for that. not just for donald trump, but

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buildings, but to also direct the fire away what you're talking about. the 3,000-year-old trees that draw so many visitors, also worth mentioning they take out so much of the carbon from the air. it's a climate story. these fires burning hotter and longer. it's something on the mind of the front line firefighters who have been doing this now year round. take a listen to what one firefighter toll me over the weekend. sglz climate is making the fire season longer, hotter and making firefighters exhausted. we have been fighting fires for months already and it's july. we have many more months to go. >> reporter: we were covered in smoke earlier in the day. that has cleared out. which is bad news because the wintd is picking up. so the wind is taking this fire and moving it pretty quickly in

one direction. more than 2,000 acres burn sod far. we have a fresh number. there's 545 firefighters on scene. a lot of that is regional support. >> let me ask you more about that regional support. i know when i was there in l.a. and i fire, you'd get reenforcements from oregon and washington after their fire seasons were over. but because as a guy you just interviewed said, the fire seasons are lasting longer, how much more difficult is it to get outside help? >> reporter: you're hitting it. it's really hard, especially when there are fires elsewhere. you have some fires raging in the american west. not as bad as we have seen last year or the year before, but it still is early in the season. so when you'd normally have crews from the state of washington and oregon or utah, utah has two pretty big fires burning right now. the american west, as you know, is heating faster than any other

part of the continental u.s. so the fire season is year round and it's going to take more and more resources, both on the state and on the federal level, especially when you talk about places like yosemite, where you have natural treasures. it's going to take federal and state resources year round to protect them from fire. >> stay safe out there. thank you for your reporting. california isn't alone in concerns about what the national weather service is calling the oppressive and dangerous heat waves. now sweeping across the country. 50 million people are facing either heat warnings or advisories. over the weekend, at least ten records were broken in cities across the southwest and in the middle of the u.s. some of those records had stood for more than a century. in texas where triple-digit temperatures are pushing people to amp up air-conditioning, officials are asking to cut back energy dwruz ease the strain on the electrical grid. coming up, new pressure on president biden as his poll numbers slip and more democrats say he shouldn't run for reelection.

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with bth president biden's performance, a majority don't want him to run for reelection. there's growing sit schism of his actions and administration messaging. so let's start with "the new york times" poll analysis. quote, president biden is facing an alarming level of doubt from inside his own party u with 64% of democratic voters saying they would prefer a new standard-bearer in the 2024 presidential campaign, as voters nationwide have soured on his leadership giving him a meager 33% job approval rating. he did tout a win this morning at the white house. a new bipartisan gun law. excuse me. the biggest advance in 30 years, but it's under the shadow of the latest mass shooting in highland park. and critics who say he's still not done enough. like a father who lost his son in the parkland shooting and who briefly interrupted the president's speech this morning telling him to do more. there's also the larger concern, which is the response to the

supreme court overturning roe v. wade. two weeks after the ruling and about ten weeks after a leaked opinion gave them time to prepare, biden is still decide ing whether to declare a public health emergency for abortion. msnbc contributor, krystal light is a democratic strategic who served for priorities usa, the largest democratic superpac in the 2020 election cycle. she's also worked on the presidential campaigns of hillary clinton and former president obama. good to see both of you. so sam, it was nearly eight weeks between the leak your publication reported on roe v. wade and the opinion itself. the question a lot of folks are asking is why wasn't the message crafted then so the minute the decision came out, they would have a response and why the ongoing indecision. >> that's a create great question. it's kind of befuddling for a lot of people. especially after the president himself took a week to come out

publicly and say he would endorse scrapping the filibuster if it meant codifying roe into law. he could have said that after the decision. we have done a bit of reporting on this. my colleague today has a story out. some of this is simply they are petrified of the conservative judiciary, knowing the court that struck down roe in the first place would end up being an impediment for action they took. that was aggressive. ep opening up federal lands in red states would get a legal challenge swiftly and could be held up in the court because of the kourlt's conservative tilt. but that's a policy response. the messaging response is a great question because you're right, it had eight weeks to prepare for this. and for the past two week, they seem incredibly reactive, capped off yesterday with a quote from the departing comes director, which basically admonishinged the abortion rights activists within the democratic party tent saying they were living in some

sort of unreality. >> let me read specifically what that statement said in part. joe biden's goal is not to satisfy some activist who is have been consistently out of step with the mainstream of the democratic party. two things this. a lot of people would say if the democrats are aligned on anything, it's abortion. and is calling a key part of your party some activists the best way to keep them on your side. >> that's not the best way. and actually, what it reflects is that this white house is not prepared to meet the moment that they are in. that statement by the white house communications director is signaling that the progressive issues that the base of this party cares about are not the priority of this administration. that's why you see a 64% disapproval rating for this president. that's why you see these articles and these calls about having a different person being at the top of the ticket for

2024. these are challenging times that the country is facing right now. on top of the economic issues, on to of inflation and to not have a president who is aggressive, who is on the offense about issues that the base cares about is really unfortunate. it's just not meeting the voters where they are right now today. >> there are a lot of people who argue. they do have a story to tell. they just need to be better prepared. so who or at least what kind of person do you think they need heading the communications office now? >> it has to be someone who has been in the ground in the states. someone who has their ear to what activists are saying. someone who has the ability to work with all members of the party really not only opt the democratic side, but also understanding what the other side is saying as well. i think when you have an administration that has not gone out and touted what they have actually done, they cannot go back and speak to those same

people about those > sometimes if there's one controversy right, this seems to be this series with abortion, again, knowing what was coming, the president only signed an executive order friday. he only mentioned the public health crisis yesterday. and fellow democrats brought that up weeks ago. the news he was considering an anti-abortion judge for a federal kentucky judgeship. do you think at this point, sam, would the democrats just rather see the white house kind of throw in everything but the kitchen sink and fight even if

they fail rather that be sort of slow roll a response? >> uh-uh think there's something to that. the idea here that the they are so reactive to news they could have been much more aggressive in responding to. especially because they had the leaked draft. the reason joe biden was elected is this idea he would bring some sort of stability to the country. he wasn't a big -- he wasn't the candidate of the party's base. he was the candidate of the party's majority. and that's why he won the nomination. that's why he beat trump. i think what they are suffering from now is a sense that things are creating out of control at large. it's not just abortion. the coronavirus continues to be a problem for the country. obviously, the drawdown from afghanistan, you started this. and gasoline prices and inflation, what this white house could benefit from is a sense he has brought stability to the country, but there's not many tools to produce that. >> i want to dig more, if i can,

into the "new york times" poll, only 26% of democrats think the party should renominate him in 2024. now given the choice between him and trump, 92% of democrats said they would stick with biden, although they are within the margin of error on the ballot. the bottom line is, if not biden, who and is it too early for democrats to be panicking? >> i do think it's early for the party to be panicking. there's still enough time for this administration to turn the curve and go out and show exactly what they have done. what the guest just stated is the economic situation, it's not the best right now. inflation is high. the cost of groceries and everything is high. but what the administration can do is show how they have stabilized this country under a crisis like the pandemic. there were still living in. but without those messaging tools, without the things to

show specifically what has been done state by state, it's no wonder that many americans don't understand what this president has done. miranda rights are under attack, abortion rights are under attack, the george floyd police act has not passed. thr a number of things this administration has not done, but the things they have done, they have not messaged it well. so voters do not know. if voters don't know, they will not be excited to go to the polls in november. they definitely won't be excited to go to the polls in 2024. >> thank you both. what a great conversation. coming up, with covid restrictions and contact tracing programs rolled e0e÷back, could u.s. be caught flat footed by new covid wave? why many epidemiologists are sounding an alarm. you're watching "chris jansing reports," only on msnbc. ports,".

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as we'd like to put covid behind us, right now it's hard not to feel aceps of deja vu when you look at the most transmissible variant yet. chuck schumer says he has tested positive for covid. he is boosted. he says he's fine. but with a senate heading toward another break, we will have to work remotely. new york city, his home and the epicenter of this pandemic in the u.s., is again recommending mask wearing indoors as this omicron strain fuels a sixth wave there. and this variant's impact in china is reverbuate raiting through financial markets around the world. as china reimposes curves. three cities have already have partial lockdowns. i want to bring in dr. gupta, a medical contributor. it's always great to see you, but it's always something like this that i'm not happy about

it. if you gauge by most people's actions like around new york covid seems to be under control. my question for you is, is it? >> great to see you. good afternoon. for your viewers, what's the situation right now? what's not going well? we know this newest sub variant of omicron has a longer contagiousness period. so if somebody watching now has been infected, they can be contagious for eight days or longer than that. we know 75% of adults are not up-to-date with their vaccines. 30% haven't gotten one shot. and also looking around the winter, flu spikes are happening earlier in certain parts of the world like in australia than we would normally see them. so that heralds something potentially concerning in the winter. covid and flu potentially. what's going well? the treatments still work.

whether it's omicron or delta, it doesn't matter. the omicron still requires a same viral machinery. in the cell requires the same type of machinery to replicate those treatments prevent viral replication in the cell. it doesn't matter what type of variant it is. luckily our treatments work. when we use that term immune, yes, antibodies are not that present in our nose and our nostrils here. so the ain't bottom bodies aren't that numerous so they prevent an infection or positive test when you swab your nose, but our immune defenses are deployed in the lungs. so the vaccines still work. the purpose of vaccination is to prevent pneumonia, ending up in the hospital it's not to prevent a positive test. that's not what they are designed to do. >> the "washington post" has a pretty concerning summation. i'm going to read it for you. nearly one-third of the u.s. population lives in counties

rated as having high transmission will levels by the cdc. cases are rising in the south and west. the death rate from covid-19 is the death rate from covid-19 is still much higher than the&ú mortality from influenza or other contagious diseases. officials warned of a possible fall or winter wave as possible health measures have fallen by the wayside. what some say is we cannot measure the risk right now by how many people are dying. so how should we be measuring our own personal risk and how concerned should we be? we don't want people to die from the flu every year. more people are still dieing from covid. >> chris, let me frame it like this this is what we need to do to prepare for the winter. a lot of people are not as protected today as otherwise could be. so what can we do as a country or forward thinking? we need variable dosing of the therapeutics that work. so if you're older, it you might have a preexisting condition,

five days may not be enough. the fda is thinking variable dosing for certain people. they may need more of it. we need guidance because it's happening as we speak. there's some confusion there. pharmacists need full discretion on pribing authorities. meaning there's some positive movement from the fda last week allowing pharmacists to prib packs of it. other therapeutics. but they need proof of blood work within the last 12 months. that's a barrier. me as a physician, i don't need that proof. i can use clinical discretion. it's more liberalization of the ability to prescribe medications. telehealth is critical. it's a critical access point for people to get care. only 12 states allow out of state clinicians to practice telehealth. what i'd like to see is a driver's license paradigm for medical licenses, nurses

licenses, mental health licensing to get people the care they need regardless of whether they may reside. let's make it easier. >> common sense, dr. gupta, thank you. great to see you. appreciate it 37. meantime, elon musk seems to be setting up an epic battle over he will be allowed to walk away from his plan to buy twitter three months after both sides reached a deal. the founder filed paperwork on friday to back out claiming the company is in breach of multiple provisions of the sales agreement. ben collins joins me now. first of all, haven't seen you in several years. it's good to see you. i want to show you a meme that he sent out because he's elon musk and that's how it goes. he references bots and spam accounts. what is going on here? >> so let's back up to how elon processes twitter as a rich person. as the richest person, actually.

>> thee richest person. >> he lass lots of people impersonating him on twitter. there are a lot more of those bots than regular people. thaps not true. when twitter measures users, they measure daily active users. those bots don't fall into that category. but in elon's brain, he sees the lots of people impersonating him. so when he bought the company, he was like i'm going to get rid of these things he tried to get data after the fact. he signed a binding agreement saying i'm going to buy this company for $54.20 a share. now he's trying to back out of that. you can't really do that. you're supposed to do due diligence before you buy. >> what options does twitter have in? >> twitter is going to posture that we want you to buy this incredibly marked bought this for. if that meme price. so they are going to keep saying buy us. we're begging you.

the end of the day, this is going to be about a buyout. to get out of the deal. it might be more than that at the end of the day. in the process, the issue is the people i have talked to at twitter are very upset about what happened. they were told this company meant more to the world than just some website. once they got sold out and said we'll offer you double, that company got thrown under the bus. >> let's look at this as one company that has one of the largest platforms for free speech and how that's interpreted and how that's enforced. even how or if donald trump could be on that platform or others like him who repeatedly post things that are untrue, there are consequences beyond the economics of the stockholders, the people who work at that company, not to

dismiss that, but this is a big deal. this that sense. >> absolutely. elon is going to open this back up. what he wanted to do with this company, he wanted to verify every single person on the platform to turn it into a payment platform. he wanted it to be like these much larger nationalized platforms. that's a fundamentally different service where you can be anonymous. if you're in a country where you're not allowed to talk about gay rights. you're allowed to be anonymous in that space. what he's offering is a very different idea. he might still make that thing, but it's not what twitter is. he figured that out in the last few months. >> ben, it is great to see you. thank you for all of that. appreciate it. and coming up, a stunning rescue in eastern ukraine. this man pulled from the rubble of an apartment building destroyed by a russian missile. look at them getting him out of there. we have detailed on that attack next. you're watching "chris jansing

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