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an off the rails oval office meeting between rudy giuliani and sydney powell that almost erupted into a fistfight between mike flinn and a white house aide. and new allegations of possible attempted witness tampering by the former president. >> president trump tried to call a witness in our investigation, a witness you have not yet seen in these hearings. that person declined to answer or respond to president trump's call. and instead alerted their lawyer to the call. their lawyer alerted us. and this committee has supplied that information to the department of justice. president biden is in israel today, the first leg of a middle east trip that includes a controversial visit to saudi arabia, the oil-rich company he said during the campaign should

and pariah for killing jamal khashoggi. but now the president does plan to meet with the crown prince the cia concluded was responsible for khashoggi murder. another big goal for the white house is to get the saudis to pump more oil and try to lower gas prices here at home. and here's why. there's more bad news today for consumers with today's monthly inflation report showing an inflation spike more than 9% in the last year, a new 41-year high. and there is new frustration and anger among uvalde, texas families after the leak of a 77-minute school video showing the shooter entering the corridor with heavily-armed police officers waiting more than an hour while students were calling 911 and calling for

help. by then, 19 students and two teachers had died. let's start with what we heard from liz cheney. what do we know about how the justice department is handling this new allegation, about when a witness was tampered with by the president himself. she sort of drops these teasing items at the end, and it's calculated to raise interest, but people like andrew weissmann, and chuck rosenberg have said this does not rise to the level of criminality because it was an attempt. there was no phone call actually

made. tell us what you think. >> yeah, it doesn't get through. it's certainly something to look at, but in terms of prosecution, that's going to be a pretty high bar just trying to make an attempted call. we don't know exactly the context of that discussion. we don't know what the former president wanted to say in that instance. i think that's not something we could see a criminal prosecution come from right now, but it fits a broader pattern. >> exactly, it's the pattern that we've seen already. and we know it's happened with cassidy hutchinson and some of the other witnesses. we don't know who this witness. >> we've seen more reporting come out basically saying, trying to discredit her by saying she wanted some sort of financial help. what's sort of interesting to me is that a lot of this, they basically are highlighting the fact that they had an

opportunity to prevent her from putting forward this damning testimony. this was a young aide, who doesn't have financial resources to lean on. this new reporting suggests that she had her aunt and uncle try to go forward and re-mortgage their house. that's how much of a situation she was in. she was basically waving this red flag in front of the committee, and the committee took advantage of the situation. so it seems like a botched opportunity from trump's orbit to prevent some of this damning testimony from coming forward. >> and of course the trump inner team, of trump world provide an attorney initially and then she had another attorney. ashley, let's talk about, you know all these players.

let's focus on that unhinged meeting. here are some of the highlights from this long compilation of recorded testimony that the committee played to show what happened in this crazy meeting that went on for hours. and it was the president and his conspirators. >> how much time did you have alone with the president, i say alone, you had other people but, but from his aides before the crowd came running? >> probably no more than 10 or 15 minutes. >> was in that -- >> i opened the door and walked in. saw general flynn, saw sydney powell sitting there. i was not happy to see the people in the oval office. >> whether the democrats were

working with hugo chavez and whoever else. and at one point, general flynn took out a diagram that showed all over the world who was communicating with whom and some comment about nest thermostats being hooked up to the internet. >> ms. powell talked about voting machines and various countries. >> cipollone and whoever the other guy had nothing but contempt and disdain for the president. >> the three of them were sort of forcefully attacking me and verbally. we were pushing pack and asking

one question as a general matter. where is the evidence? >> we both challenged what she was saying, and she says, well the judges are corrupt. and i was like, every one. >> every single case that you've done in the country that you guys lost? every one is corrupt? even the ones we appointed? i'm being nice. i was much more harsh to her. they screamed to me that i was a quitter. at a certain point i had it with him. so i yelled back. come over, set your effing ass back down. >> it's extraordinary. cassidy hutchinson actually took a picture of mark meadows, her boss, escorting rudy giuliani

out, because at one point he was alone, and he thought it was kind of cool. they wanted to make sure he didn't circle back and get in the residence and alone with the president again. >> i think it's important because former president trump shattered so many norms. the idea that people who to not work in the administration and people who come bearing conspiracy theories would be allowed to kind of wander into the oval office is just an extraordinary breach to begin with. and any traditional white house, even if it is someone who is incredibly well-known. the partner of the chief of staff or a member of congress, there's a procedure. you have to send your name, social security number, date of birth. let's just start there. and then it builds to in an oval office known for chaos,known

for tumult, known for screaming, a six-hour meeting that people left in tears, that there was almost a fistfight in the oval office. it shows you how the president could ask for people to march on the capitol and leading to the insurrection. >> he tweeted that at 1:46. so approximately, less than two hours later he's pushed back the white house counsel, says can you not appoint sydney powell to be a special counsel and can you not have defense department confiscate the voting machines. so an hour and 46 minutes later he tweets, come on, it's going to be january 6, it's going to be wild. and we saw what then happened. >> yeah, andrea, as extraordinary as the details around that meeting were, we

should keep focussed on what president trump himself was doing and the way that altercation, the fight around him inspired him to dig in. to lean in towards the path to violence that resulted on january 6. these were the actions that the president took. he issued that tweet to his supporters to come to washington on january 6, to be wild. he decided to side with the conspiracy theorists over his own counsel, other his own public servants, who were making the case to him privately, that this was a bunch of balony and trump believed what he wanted to believe and acted the way he wanted to act. but he's a grown adult obviously and was influenced by what he was hearing. >> as liz cheney pointed out, he's a 76-year-old man, not some impressionable child. so charlie sikes, i want to play

the reaction in the right wing, extremist community compiled by the committee. this wasn't all underground. this was far out for everyone to see. let's watch. >> donald trump is calling on his supporters to descend on washington, d.c., january 6th. >> he is now calling on we, the people, to take action and to show our numbers. >> we're going to only be saved by millions of americans moving to washington, occupying the entire area if necessary, storming right into the capitol. you know, there, we know the rules of engagement. if you have enough people you can push down any kind of a fence or a wall. >> this could be trump's last stand. and it's a time when he has specifically called on his supporters to arrive in d.c. that's something that may actually be the big push trump

supporters need to say this is it. it's now or never. >> you better understand something son, you better understand, something, red wave, there's going to be a red wedding going down january 6. >> so charlie sikes, we're talking about, you know, an immediate reaction. and so you can see the whole flow of what's happened. >> i knew that was one of the most- most-. >> two witnesses yesterday, one in particular, steven ayers who listened to the call and believed it. >> i thought that was one of the most extraordinary moments yesterday. i played that on my podcast today. for people who aren't familiar with what a red wedding is, that's a reference to "game of thrones," where you had an extreme act of violence where everyone is killed. one of the thing this committee

has done is connect the dots, the timeline, where you have the president of the united states who has sided with some of the craziest, most reckless and most dangerous domestic extremists in the country. and i think this is what's important to underline phil's point. don't take your focus off donald trump, what donald trump was doing, all the steps he took to overturn the election and how he pivoted to insurrection after that crazy meeting >> ryan riley, phil rucker, ashley parker, charlie sikes, i can't think of better people to talk to in the fallout of this incredible hearing, and of course there will be another one next week and we believe that will be in primetime on thursday. and overseas and under scrutiny, the backlash president biden is facing scrutiny, the backlashrms aroun, could we put little handles on our jackets?

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high-stakes visit to the middle east. topping his agenda, trying to speed up the flow of oil and redefine the relationship with the saudis. it's been pretty rocky since he took office. he had a short brief interaction with benjamin netanyahu, who's jockeying with lapid for power. netanyahu is looking for a way back. >> greater peace, greater stability. greater connection. it's critical. it's critical, if i might add, for all the people of the region. which is why we'll be, we'll discuss my continued support even though i know it's not in the near term, a two-state

solution. that remains in my view the best way to ensure the future of equal measure of freedom, prosperity, democracy for israelis and palestinians alike. >> president also laid a wreath at the world holocaust remembrance center in jerusalem and briefed on israel's iron dome and air defense systems. joining us from jerusalem, peter alexander, traveling with the president in that beautiful setting. so peter, the president in the middle east. a lot of pressure back home to bring down skyrocketing gas prices, which is the saudi piece of this. he's going to tackle ha there. but it's a difficult balancing act with saudis, human rights violations, and we're not going to get a normalization of relations between saudi arabia and israel. but he's going to fly there. >> the president making that trip between israel and saudi

arabia, the first to go that direction. part of his effort to bring israel and saudi arabia together as israel has built relationships, formal relationships with others like the united area emirates, bahrain and morocco. remember 2019 as a candidate, a windy one here, as president biden said i would treat the saudi kingdom as the pariah that they are for their human rights abuses. he said his goal in visiting was not to rupture relationships but rebuild them, especially with energy security, the relationship with israel and saudi, trying to advance a truce between saudi arabia and yemen and ultimately beyond that to sort of restore the broader alliance, to push back against

iran's strength in this region. there's been a lot of criticism. one analyst described the campaign rhetoric meeting the reality of a trip like this. adam schiff only a month ago saying that he wouldn't go, he wouldn't shake hands with mohammad bin salmon, obviously the crown prince will be there for a visit with royal leadership. and specifically, as it relates to the issue of oil, the president's tried to down play his effort to get the saudis to produce more oil. but it's his hope they will produce a more sustainable level of oil. >> a lot on the agenda. joining us now is john brennan, the former cia director during the obama administration.

director brennan, jake sullivan said this week iran is selling drones to russia to use against iran, rather to use against ukraine. this is the latest iranian threat and reviving the iran deal is all but dead. >> it continues to be a national security concern for saudi arabia and the other gulf states. and i think there's more of an impetus states and i think there' to everyone sure that there's going to be a consensus among partners in the region about what to do to confront this iranian menace this that continues to grow. israel's concern about iran with no brakes on the nuclear program being developed, and the saudi

concerns, does that bode well for at least bringing israel and saudi arabia closer together? they've been working covertly for quite some time. but israel has been an extraordinarily successful in taking out, i mean, iranian scientists, nuclear scientists, leading, we believe, to the firing of iran's long-standing intelligence chief. >> yes, israel has been very aggressive in taking actions to mitigate the iranian threat, but this is where president biden can push the israelis and especially mohammad salmon to see if they can work together. there are a lot of downsides to president biden's trip to saudi arabia and meeting mohammad salman, because of nbs's personal responsibility for the horrific murder jamal khashoggi. but this is where he has to extract some tangible means

that's going to advance the interests of the united states in the region as well as regional stability. that not only includes increased oil production but also whether or not there's going to be movement toward a relationship between israel and saudi arabia, that the saudis will become part of the movement for diplomatic relations with israel and whether or not there's going to be some meeting between saudi and israeli diplomat or business men or something else i do think this is something president biden should push. >> one of the main reasons the saudis have been so angry at joe biden, of course donald trump went overboard favoring the saudis, but this was the moment on the campaign in 2019. the state department says the

saudi government is responsible for executing non-violent offenders and torture. >> khashoggi was murdered and dismembered i believe at the order of the crown prince. we will make them pay the price and make them in fact the pariah that they are. there's very little social redeeming value in the president government in saudi arabia. >> director brennan. your former colleague, ben rhodes wrote that the president should not be making this trip. >> well, if i was still in government i would not have supported the trip to saudi

arabia and the meeting with bin salman. holding hostage the children of a former saudi official because is he a petulant individual who is a real narcissist and is trying to exert his influence, not just in terms of political power but suppressing political voices in saudi arabia. therefore i think president biden does not like the idea that he's going to be meeting with him, yes, but presidents are elected to make tough decisions, and clearly president biden made the decision as tough as it might be to him, that he needed to make the trip and continue to try to try in the future, particularly at a time of such global turmoil with the russian invasion of ukraine, the situation in yemen and other issues. this is something very much on

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like i did with preservision" dire new numbers this morning, showing inflation costs soaring to new heights. it rose to the highest level in four decades, since ronald reagan was president. gas prices dropped from last month, which is good news. joining me now is president biden's senior advisor and top economic advisor to president obama and clinton.

it's a bad number any way you look at it. >> i mean, andrea, the average for the 38 top countries in the world is 9.6% inflation, and it is unfortunate, but americans have not escaped that. the fact that it's global, we know very well is little comfort to the american family going to the gas line or the grocery line. but i think the point on the outdated was just to say we've seen gas prices go down about 40 cents. there are $10,000 stations selling under $4. in that sense, i think is what the president referred to them be being outdated.

i think you're also seeing the president make clear that it's time for us to work together as a country. we could be reducing utility bills, health premiums, and with that 40 cent decline in gas prices we could add another 50 cents if both governors and the u.s. congress heeded the president's call for a federal gas tax holiday. so there is progress we can make, but of course the president's focus is on working americans. and he knows for working americans but even with this very strong job market that we have, and 3.6% unemployment, people are getting hit in their pocket book with the higher prices, and that's why that's his top priority for helping middle class and working families right now. >> are you less worried now

about a recession after the good jobs report last week? >> you know, we were doing some of our own research and noticing that there really had never been a period that was a recession where you'd had even over a hundred thousand jobs created. here we look and it's a million. and 372,000. so i do think that when youlook at the job market, it does slow a strength and resilience, and you have a lot of americans working. and as tough as it is, if it were higher prices and certainly there will be a transition to more stable economic growth, having americans working, people having saved up a little, these are all things that we think put

us in a position is that better. it's clear this president has engaged diplomatically to try to increase supply. when he released 100 million from the strategic petroleum reserve, he ensured that the rest of the world was adding 60 million. so through that diplomacy, ensuring that we have 240 million more barrels a day on the market due to the

president's executive action on the strategic petroleum reserve and pushing other countries to do their part. so that's certainly part of the strategy, but on the particular saudi arabia trip, i'm going to leave that to our national security team to speak on. >> thank you. and next, they did nothing. more outrage in yew val tee as the police didn't do anything as the shooter opened fire. victims' families demanding action. you're watching andrea mitchell reports on msnbc. l l report and support vaginal health. welcome to an align gut. before treating your chronic migraine— 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting 4 hours or more

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here in our nation's capitol, families from the highland park, yew val uvalde a

communities gathered. we should warn this video is hard to watch. it was edited and aired by the austin american statesman shows the alleged shooter and a child darting into a doorway doorway o escape. the police officers are there for more than an hour. he used hand sanitizer. while teachers and students were being killed in the classroom and repeatedly calling 911 for help. they did try to break into the classroom 77 minutes later. by then 19 children and two

teachers had tied. nbc news has not independently received the video. uvalde's mayor attacking the media outlets to published it. >> it's a pretty chicken [ bleep ] action in my view. it's pretty lowlife. >> joining us from uvalde, antonia, this is appalling. they not only were there but were heavily armed. they had body, you know, body jackets on. i'm sorry. i'm just so upset by watching it again. and they retreated. they went forward and came back and stood around for 77 minutes, and the kids were calling for help. >> reporter: that's right, andrea, and here in the community, there is incredible

pain and anger right now, as you mentioned. families, community members were expecting to see this footage on sunday morning, but, you know, they've been fighting for more transparency and for the release of these materials now for seven weeks. it's been well over a month since the shooting happened. and authorities could have shown the families this footage much sooner. now it's been leaked. it was a shock to many members. family members scrambling and calling to let their loved ones to not go online, not look at what people were saying on the internet. asking friends on facebook please don't re-share this video. they were worried it would be traumatizing for themselves and for their children. some of the anger is directed of course at the reporters for releasing this, because families expected to have a bit more time. as you described, andrea, this

is incredibly disturbing stuff. you see the gunman enter completely calm and collective, not someone who's afraid of being imminently pursuedpy law enforcement. >> it was horrific. it was disturbing. it was the worst thing that i could have possibly seen. i am so disappointed. >> it's going to be in our social media forever. not just us. it's our kids at home. >> reporter: nbc news has reached out to law enforcement for comment, but over the last several weeks, they've consistently defended themselves. chief pete arredondo said that he agonizingly went through key after key trying to get into the classroom. people had described the officers initially as heroic, putting themselves in the line

of fire, but when you take a look at the video, you mentioned the hand sanitizer, an officer checking his phone. >> and those two mothers that you interviewed. they must be horrified. and we have breaking news in washington, another push by steve bannon to try to delay his trial on contempt charges that is supposed to start next week. pete williams joins us. how can he try again? the judge was pretty definitive. >> all the attention he could be getting from the january 6 hearings could influence the jury pool, but the judge said steve bannon's name has come up all of about 30 seconds.

bannon says now we've seen yesterday's hearing. bannon was mentioned a lot more plus what the lawyers for bannon say, cnn intends to run a documentary about bannon that could be highly critical and influence the potential jury pool. so once again they ask the judge to delay the trial. bannon is asking the judge to let him tell the jury that he is now willing to testify before the january 6 committee, because he says trump's earlier assertion of executive privilege has now opinion waived and lifted, so he's free to talk. the government says, a, you never really had a blanket assumption of executive privilege, and b, it says what you're willing to do now has nothing to do with the crime you

committed in october when you refused the committee's subpoena. so we're waiting for the judge to rule on these latest two motions, andrea. >> well, more to come no doubt. thank you very much, pete williams for the breaking news from the newsroom. and we have more reaction from the uvalde video in a moment. plus chris murphy, his take on the president's trip to saudi arabia. you're watching the andrea mitchell report, o saudi arabia you're watching the andrea mitchell report,

the u.s. is calling on russia to immediately stop it filtration operations. this is the massive forced deportation of ukrainians from russian held areas of ukraine, including 260,000 children.

the secretaries of state says it is a grave breach of the geneva convention. it is estimated that russian authorities have interrogated, detained, and deported of up to one.6 million ukrainians narrow. joining us now is democratic senator chris murphy. he was such an expert on ukraine. this russian filtration policy is outrageous. we have no way of helping these people get back to their homeland. >> the numbers are stunning. upwards of 1.5 million ukrainians, hundreds of thousands of children, who have been uprooted from their homes, families, and have been driven away too far off places, never to be seen or heard from again, likely uprooted from their family members and their community.

these are the tactics of joseph stalin. undoubtably a war crime. more evidence of how unhinged vladimir putin has become. more evidence of why we have to stay in this fight and make sure ukraine will lead . it is just the tip of the iceberg. by the end of this year, we to be talking about up to 4 million ukrainians uprooted and taken away from their homes. it is unconscionable. >> i know you're really outraged by the video that we just played earlier from uvalde. for 77 minutes, these heavily armed law enforcement officers looked at their watches, went and clean their hands, and did not try to breach that classroom while children were calling 911. >> the video is jaw-dropping. i don't necessarily recommend people watch it. it is hard to watch. it is proof that this myth

perpetuated on the country for 30 years that the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun was a gun industry fiction created to sell more weapons. there was one teenager with a military style assault weapon. there were multiple trained law enforcement officer outside. not just with high-powered weapons, but body armor and shields. if one teenager with a high powered weapon is so scary as to prevent all those highly trained adults from going in and saving lives, maybe we should try to stop the teenagers from having those guns in the first place. clearly, we can never have enough good guys with guns to stop an assailant if we couldn't get the job done in uvalde. >> you have been meeting with parents from uvalde and highland park this week. what can you tell them about

any possibility for an assault weapon ban? we have been repeatedly told that it will not happen in this congress. >> we are just weeks away from passing the most substantial change in gun laws in the last 30 years. that bill is going to save thousands of lives. i argue to you that, had it been in place, it could have stopped both the uvalde shooting in the highland park shooting. there are elements of that bill that, frankly, address the fact patterns in both those cases. but we need to do more. i am in awe of these families and survivors here right now walking around the capitol and demanding that congress do the right thing and join the rest of the industrialized world and ban high-capacity weapons. i don't know something douglas will be able to take up in the

next several weeks, but we have crossed the rubicon. is not a question of when we will pass at the gun violence legislation, it is what we will do next. i am hopeful these parents join in this movement. i'm confident these parents will allow us to do a lot more to save lives. >> a few moments ago, the former c.i.a. director, john brennan, said that he would not have taken this trip to saudi arabia. and that is because of the human rights abuses and the murder of jamal khashoggi. i know you feel the strategic challenges are such that he should, the president should make this trip, but how does he handle the difficult human rights issue? >> i think the president needs to get some real, meaningful

commitments from saudi arabia. not just on their human rights worker, but also, the way in which this regime has conducted itself in the region. i know the administration is talking about renewing the cease-fire in yemen. we have to be better. we have to get saudi arabia committed to a political path in yemen where we can permanently bring this war to an end. the yemeni people can be back in charge of running the country . my worry is that the saudis get a lot of credit for this very short-term cease-fire, but they aren't taking the hard steps necessary to put it in place with a long-term political reconciliation inside yemen. my belief is that the president has every right to go to saudi arabia . it is an important country and security partner,

but i am hopeful he will come out of these meetings with some significant commitments on human rights reform and how we bring the yemen war to a complete hard stop. >> senator chris murphy, as always, thank you. we will end the show with a bright spot. a moment of inspiration. unbelievable views of our universe looking deeper into space than ever before. these incredible images taken by the james webb telescope. scientists believe they could one day prove the existence of life beyond earth. nasa also looking at a planet with potential clouds and water vapor. this is a group of five galaxies. another image shows a star slowly exploding as it dies . it is so deep into the universe. more than 2000 light years away. new stars are being born here. this is an active starforming region. hubbell was never able

to show this amount of detail. impair the top image. scientist say this is just a preview of what the new telescope can do. truly breathtaking. congratulations to nasa. remember, follow the show online. chris chancing starts right now. >> covid-19 moves fast as a business owner, >> your bottom line is always top of mind. so start saving by switching to the mobile service designed for small business: comcast business mobile.

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good afternoon. i am chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. we start with breaking news. the stock market has been all over the place today after we got that labor department report showing inflation is even worse than experts projected. the numbers speak for themselves. the consumer price index jumping 9.1%, a new 40 year high. will have much more on that a little later on in the program. but first, as we speak, the justice department is digging through a pile of new evidence and new testimony courtesy of the january 6 committee. three hours dedicated to make its case that former president trump was the driving force behind the events of january 6.