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from vice chair liz cheney. we'll talk about how the justice department can handle that information now that it has been passed along. but with steve bannon now on to judge to do as of today, had incentive his contempt trial. president biden making his first trip to the middle east is present, on the ground in israel as we speak, that country prepares for yet another national election. what he is not saying about iran, and that key meeting with the saudi's, new this afternoon. plus, and abc news exclusive you only see here. one on one with an american freed from a russian prison. her advice to wnba star brittney griner, and what she is telling us about her own ties behind bars. i am hallie jackson in washington, with minnows nbc news sr. national political reporter, silas kapoor. justin corresponded key reporter for the washington post in front of the show, josh softy. good afternoon to all of you. let me start with you with the landscape on capitol hill. we have now heard from

committee chair bennie thompson is is next week's hearing will be, quote, the last one at this point.". okay, so the last one for the summer? last one until the final report comes out? what do we know, what are we hearing? >> there may be more to come after the final currently scheduled hearing next week , halle, and the possible future hearings fall into two broad categories. the first is when that report by the committee comes out regarding their finding that could be in september, it could even be in october. the committee leading the door wide open to holding another hearing to disclose some of the findings. the second is the category of what you might call the known unknown there is no information coming to the attention on a regular basis. they say their witnesses are coming forward as these hearings move forward. some people like steve hannon who didn't want to cooperate in the past suddenly say now they want to talk to the committee. they are subpoenaed, in the eyes of the committee, that have not been fulfilled yet including from mark meadows, a big question is also jeffrey clark, who didn't appear to disclose much when he did speak to this committee. there has been a possibility of

a contempt referral for him? all this new information is coming to the committee's attention, and just as we got a couple weeks ago, they did that deposition with cassidy hutchinson and suddenly they decided that was enough to hold an emergency special hearing so there's always a possibility that depending on the information they come by, they will try that again. and as you mentioned, the last year he left us with something of a cliffhanger when congresswoman liz cheney talked about the contact with a witness. let's play what bennie thompson had to say a little bit more about that. >> reporter: in your opinion, is there enough evidence to say enough evidence to intimate the witness? >> well, from my vantage point is kind of unusual. to do that. and that is why we boat put that in the hands of the justice department for them to make that decision. >> reporter: and this was just one missed phone call from the former president? >> that is all i am aware of. >> reporter: and yet another possible topic for a future hearing as the committee sees fit, howard.

>> thank you, stand by for a second. pete, we'll go to you . we just heard from chairman thompson, who says this is essentially in the hands of the justice department. how does this go? >> they will look at it, i think obviously they will consider it important because of the importance of the hearing, i think there is a misunderstanding here, though, that somehow the committee has referred this to justice. there is no formal referral process, anybody can call something to the attention of the justice department. obviously they're going to pay a little more attention to something that comes from congress than, say, somebody crossed the street. but they will look at it. the fact is, the call was never completed, who knows what the president had in mind with that call. that is part of the problem here. but justice department will certainly look at it. >> he, now, get is asking for a judge to delay the start of his truck, right? >> yes, you may recall he had done this once before, his trial is supposed to start

monday. he asked early for it to be delayed because he said the january 6th committee hearings are all about him and mentioned him and could potentially take the jury pool, the government said his name only came up maybe a total of 30 seconds. and so it wasn't that big of a deal, and the judge denied his request, he is back today saying okay, it is different now for two reasons. one is, he says, yesterday's hearing mentioned him a lot more often, and secondly, he says, on the eve of his truck, cnn plans to run an hour-long documentary about him, cnn has been running promos for this on cnn that he says it could really damage the potential jury pool, influence people about him, he says it is sure to be very negative, and so he wants the judge, again, to delay until mid-october. and he also says he wants the judge to allow him to tell the jury, as his trial, whenever it is, that he was willing to testify before the january 6th committee after all, and that should make a difference. the government is opposed to, the government said no, that is

not an issue the jury should even hear about, because what he is charged with his stiffing the committee back in october and whatever he did month later doesn't count for the initial charge. so the judge is going to have to decide what to do about that. >> and presumably, pretty quickly before the weekend, no? >> i think the judge made a series of rulings yesterday on , the day before on requests from abandoned, and i'm sure he will act on this one pretty quickly, too. >> pete williams, thank you very much. josh, let me get to you. your super well sourced, just on the committee side but also incredible source on the trump world site, if you will. tell me what you are hearing from all of those folks here about the impact that these hearings, so far have had on former president trump and let's say his prospects come 2024. >> well , i think accelerated his schedule. he is looking to try and announce sooner rather than later presidential bid for the presidency. he certainly has been paying attention to these hearings and

doesn't like what a lot of the revelations have been, but not giving him significant to say, republicans who want to try to get him to his base because they want to run for president as well. i think currently what you see with these investigations, investigation in georgia, for example, the january 6th activities that are unfolding, new york investigation, the various things going on, i think if anything, it is accelerating his timetable. mean currently having to pretty much they can not to announce that he is running for president, have been doing this for a a while now. they want him to wait, a lot of them want him to wait after the midterms. and we will see if they can make that happen or not. >> you know the other interesting moment , let me say that again, there are a lot of interesting moment i think over the last 24 hours. one of them i know you have covered, and i think, josh, covered in real time along with many of us who are covering the

trump administration then with this meeting that happened on december 18th, that was just straight up bananas, right? you zeroing in on that. the idea that it was, it went even further than what the committee painted it out to be. people were screaming and swearing, so loud you could hear them from different parts of the white house. tell us more about that. >> it was a fairly remarkable meeting, even bystanders of this white house. never been in a meeting like that in the trump white house. it went on for about five or six hours, in various rooms, including in the residence. outside advisers led by sidney powell, but also including michael flynn and patrick are in, the ceo of overstock.com showed up for announced at the white house, found themselves with an audience of the president of the united states. for many hours, they tried to convince him to authorize sidney powell to become a special counsel for voting matters, they tried to optimize seizing voting machines, they pushed a whole range of the

bunk series about fraud. and a team of folks from the white house, led by pat cipollone came in and pushed back on a lot of those claims, and tried to dispute some of the far-fetched nature of it. and then after midnight, at the end of the meeting, they get up with no resolution, and former president trump soon tweeted after that folks should come to the capital on january 6th, and it will be wild. a little unclear why he tweeted that. i talk to multiple people yesterday with direct knowledge of that meeting and he said that january 6th was not a topic of that meeting, that i didn't come up that night. that night, the election had already been, the congress already moved on december 14th, and you had the final throes of a pretty far-flung conspiracy there, president looking for answers there. one point he said to folks and lawyers, i don't know if any of this is true, but at least they're fighting for me, what are you guys doing?

so he was desperate, throwing things against the wall, and he had been in the company of some fairly conspiratorial minded folks who are pushing unsubstantiated claims. asking him to take extraordinarily and potentially illegal actions to overturn the election. >> i want to go back to prison, because nbc news is confirming from thomas that house speaker nancy pelosi apparently made in a closed caucus meeting early today, where she told members, quote, republicans are not capable of governing a democracy. my ascension is the hope from democrats is that what they are learning in these hearings, what america is seeing as these hearings are going to get laid out, a rallying cry as we head into november. >> that is the hope, halley, that it will help them. democrats also recognize that january 6th and issues like this are not going to be enough to hold power, to hold on and win crucial seats in the midterm elections. yes, there is a core democratic base that can be energized off of these trump and his movement as a threat, maybe even some college educated suburban

voters that used to vote republican but are turned off by trump. democrats want to remind those voters that trump is still in some ways the de facto leader of the party. the democrats recognize that this issue is going to be fought not economic and pocketbook issues. voters are worried about gas prices and food prices than they are thinking about january 6th right now. and even the democrats who believe that this investigation is massively important, that there is a threat to american democracy, admit that voters in their home districts are not primarily thinking about this, that they are worried about inflation and paying their next bills. lifers on the hill, josh dottie, great to see you as always, thank you. president biden, today trying to shore up relations with our closest mideast ally, israel. tried to deice the u.s. relationships with saudi arabia. he is going to be traveling to the palestinian west bank tomorrow before heading on to this important, pretty controversial trip to the oil- rich saudi kingdom.

domestic pressure on the president, of course, to lower gas prices. remember, as you'd seen the president doing some greeting there, as he landed today, back in 2019, then candidate biden labeled the saudi's and its de facto leader a pariah after the intel report from the u.s. concluded that they were responsible for the murder of washington post, khashoggi. even with these high gas prices, oil is not going to be the focus of the meeting, he is hoping to make gains on ending the war in yemen, trying to normalize relations with countries in the region. i want to bring in now nbc news senior white house correspondent kelly o'donnell who is with the president and jerusalem. bucket one or some the new comments that president has made now about chiron. also a key player in the region. let me start there and then let me key up bucket two with a handshake, and i think i know you mean by that, we'll talk about that in a second. >> let's start with ironic, because of course i ron is one of the shadow figures of any of

the meetings here in the middle east, because for israel, iran is the next essential threat, and for the u.s. there is a great concern about iran's nuclear program and can there be a way to stop them from getting a nuclear weapon after getting out of the nuclear deal under the trump era, and the lawns long talks knock on forward. so it is a concern, and the president was asked in an interview done by an israeli journalist in advance of this trip, but airing tonight in israel, about his concerns on iran, his nuclear potential, and how far the president would go. now these always said they want to stop that from happening, but he used some new language in that exchange with the reporter. here is a clip of that, and i think you will know what will stand out. >> reporter: you come in the past, you say again that you would assure iran would not acquire nuclear weapons. it also mean sir, that you would use force against iran,

is that what that means? >> if that was the last resort, yes. >> reporter: a last resort. the president has always been clear that not taking any options for the u.s. off the table, but when the president says it in an affirmative way like that, even though it is not new policy, it was a new sound to how he responded to that. so that is getting attention here. it matters a great deal in this part of the world and around the world. so saying to iran and all the other players listening that he would use of force as a last resort to stop them from getting the nuclear weapons. halley? >> bucket two, kelly, relates to the white house before this trip talks about this new policy, per doctors orders. covid concerns, that you are not going to see president biden shaking hands. rather conveniently, that man would avoid a potential landmine with nbs. we showed the video, going in for the whole handshake there. tell us more about this, kelly, and how this

>> you and i might fist bump when we bump into each other at the office or at the white house . >> we had, kelly. >> that's true, we do hug. but you don't typically see the fist bump in this kind of a setting with world stage leaders. but the white house was careful to say that they intend to have limited contact for the president because of covid. at the same time, when he saw benjamin netanyahu, it looked to me that night jan who went in for the grip and the grin and the fist bump philly for the moment. the president was careful even in kind of an awkward, accountable way of doing the fist bump with other readers. you may continue to do that. but we have also seen them embrace holocaust survivors, the international holocaust memorial site. so it is not an absence of closeness, necessarily, but it certainly was preparing us for not seeing a handshake. and as

you point out, that might not be as important here in israel, but it will be certainly be watched very carefully on the next leg of the trip, where we know the president is expected to meet not only with the king, but the king's son, the crown prince, and often there are those exchanges that happen, and when you are a guest in that country, i think that we are trying to prepare the sort of political reality that he may not have a handshake at the same time, who knows what will happen? we saw his play out today where in the moment, it is instinct, it is the moment, it is relationships. we will see what happens. but the fist bump strategy is something we're talking about, it kind of comes and goes, at this point, as far as we can tell. but it may have a much more important purpose to not offend in saudi by talking about covid. kelly o'donnell life for us with that jerusalem, dealing , kelly, thanks so much. still had her on the show, new testimony on capitol hill today from state officials from abortion advocates for legal experts on the effect of post-

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developing news out of ohio, just the last hour or so. 27-year-old man has been arrested and charged with a 10- year-old girl, you can see the charging documents on the new screen. a little girl became pregnant and apparently had to go to indiana to get abortion care, since ohio had recently activated six week abortion back, according to reported around the story initially, ohio's attorney general staying in a statement just today, just this afternoon, quote, i heart aches for the pain, suffered by this young child i am grateful for the diligent work of the

police and securing a concession and getting a off the street. this is the same attorney general who initially appeared to be skeptical about whether this case even existed. casting some doubt on its legitimacy on another national cable news outlet, the story become a flashpoint in the heated abortion access debate after the supreme court overturned roe versus wade. president biden mentioning this 10-year-old girl and the story around her when he saw that executive action to protect some abortion rights we are following the story as we follow the one you see on your screen, lawmakers in washington today holding a hearing on the impact of that very decision. the decision to end roe, or overturn it, rather, with the senate health committee hearing from key witnesses before and against abortion rights, here are some of the opening statements from the leading lawmakers. >> republicans are going to force women to stay pregnant, not only when they don't want to be, but even when it could kill them. >> republicans want contraception and family

planning. nine states have banned birth control altogether, the procedure for the second time. want to bring an nbc news reporter julie sirkin. talk about the significance of today's hearing, because there's a lot of anticipation around i think we initially found out, back then in june, that the supreme court was in fact moving and did in fact decide to overturn roe talk concrete specifics, what might get done if anything, the democrats want to see, try to protect abortion rights. >> this was just one of three hearings that happened this week alone on roe v wade on what democrats can do to protect abortion rights in the wake of this decision. but the reality is, halley, as you know well, they don't have the votes to do anything meaningful in congress, which is why we have seen such a push to the ballot box in november, and by doing so, they are still trying to show their voters that they are doing everything they can, there is a couple you see request unanimous consent

request coming up on the senate for this week. one to protect women who are traveling across state lines. another measured the house picking up the women's health protection act again, which failed earlier this spring in the senate. i want you to take a listen to part of my conversation with one of the witnesses in today's hearing. sammy jester. i asked her straightforward, i said do you have any confidence at the ballot box, are you motivated to go out and vote despite the action from democrats over the last five decades to codify roe, here's what she told me. >> i'd be lying if i didn't say i was little bit edge. the last, the certainly last month, six weeks, and in fact the last two years have made me deeply afraid for what antiabortion lawmakers and activists are trying to do. >> reporter: sammy is a regular person, quote unquote, actually heard her story a month ago, she received an abortion in 2015, her mother received an abortion before roe, and now she is looking at a future where her future kids, her niece, aren't going to be able to have access to abortion, and she says that president biden

should be doing more democrats in congress should be doing more, as well. julie sirkin, julie, thank you. next appear on the show, the fury in uvalde today. one texas lawmaker joining us after the release of security footage from inside robb elementary school. stay with us. us.

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outside the capital of, evolved and highland park shooting, as you can see rowling for a ban on assault weapons. one child, a survivor of the attack at robb elementary, and his grandmother speaking to our nbc news team. >> i was in the rob school shootout . i felt sad because most of my friends passed away >> band of firearm weapons now. we want actions now. not later, we don't want any other families to go through the same thing we have been going through. >> some of that frustration, the holly sonders yesterday to show just how long officers wait outside the classroom as that shooter kept up his

rampage. to hear law enforcement gathered in the hallways, waiting. city of uvalde victims were caught offguard by the funds, parents, talking with nbc, wanting some answers. >> [ crying ] i don't know i didn't go in there, i don't know why. >> heartbreaking, it is heartbreaking to watch and hear about it. i want to bring in taxes state senator roland frontiers who represent uvalde. thank you so much for being back on the show. >> thank you. thank you. >> reporter: so a lot of topics are, let me what happened here in washington but some of your constituents are here, right, they were here at the capital today, they're demanding this assault weapons ban, what you want to tell them? >> yeah, i just got in real late last night from washington, myself. advocating for my constituents. they are so, they are tired of this roller coaster, this emotional roller coaster that they have been on with the state, the government in the state of texas. they were promised that they were going to be told this information on sunday, in a

private setting, and here, someone in government leaked that information out and that information is in few hands, and it is very sad right now that that happened, the way it did happen. and then you have the video itself, it is almost made-for- tv in some instances, tell some of the story, not all of it, but 48, 50, 70 so minutes in total of just police doing nothing. not doing what they were supposed to do under the active shooter protocol. while children died, while children bled out, it is disturbing. >> reporter: it is disturbing, to say the least. was one moment, there were a lot of moments i think are essential. one of them is what we are about to show, which is a little person, a little student coming around the corner. i think from the bathroom, reportedly, coming around the corner, showing up, seeing the shooter, seeing the gun man, and the basically freezing, blurred, obviously here in the bottom left of the screen, turning around and running

again away. you call this video, and pieces of it disturbing. so what you want to see happen in light of it? do you want anybody else to step down besides what we have seen from pete arredondo on the city council? >> what is interesting about this video is we don't even see pete arredondo at all. we see isd, police, state patrol, dps. we see the border patrol folks, and we see them all kind of doing the same thing, asking each other what is next, what they are going to do, strategizing. i get all that, i see that here, but we don't see pete arredondo at all. we see a dps trooper in some instances, a texas ranger giving orders to several people. so we have been told this narrative that the school cop that is in charge of the cafeteria school fights in charge, but i don't even see him on this video which raises yet another round of questions. my hope is that what is next is we get the full picture, do we

get the videos that i have seen, i saw three minutes early on in the first week inside of a dps technical trailer. and i saw the sheer power of the ar 15 as it tore through that construction material. so no matter the police stayed out. it is unfortunate that the little babies had to deal with all that and had to be the brave one in the scene. >> reporter: the question is on accountability, it sounds like you want to know more about this. i think one of things you have done is file a lawsuit, you are suing dps, basically, for not releasing more. you want to see the shooting records, et cetera police say in the suit, the state of texas failed these families and those families deserve to know the complete unalterable truth about what happened that day. this is the suit to demand just that. can you give us an update on the progress of that litigation? >> yes, holly, you're the first to know, we go to court on august 4th, we just got off the phone with the court in travis county. we are sending notice of hearing opposing counsel for august the fourth, we try to get them to agree to a court

setting a date, but the attorney general's office and dps has refused. so we have had to set it on our own for august the fourth. we will be subpoenaing steven mccraw, we want him issuing a subpoena for him to show up. we feel that they have had this information and keep doling it out and tranches that they want us to see. yet, not its totality. there was 91 dps troopers on the scene, and we don't see any of them in this video. but two, we know from steven mccraw's own testimony that there were 12 in that hallway. and so it seems that whoever is editing and piecing this material out is showing us what they want us to see, not the whole, the entire truth. >> reporter: are you confident that subpoena you just mentioned? and in the overall itself, that you will be successful, especially given that it is happening during a time of an active investigation into the shooting? >> i have no doubt that state will try to quash mccraw's

testimony, or his presence. we're going to keep moving forward. we are going to demand that he be here, we're going to be in travis county, and we're going to demand that we get to the bottom of the truth as best we can, because my constituents deserve to know real answers here. >> roland gutierrez, thank you. we appreciate your time. next here on the program, what life is like inside a russian prison. one american who made it out , shares her story, and her advice to others like brittney griner, who are being detained for the very first time, exclusively with nbc news. >> if you talk to brittney griner out now, what would you tell her? her?

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jail cell. after pleading guilty on drug charges last week, the state department is trying to get her out along with the white house president biden and others. greiner is in prison, rather, showing just how limited in some ways the american government power is when it comes to protecting the citizens. an exclusive interview, she tells nbc news about how confusing it was when she was first detained. >> it is a bit terrifying because they don't tell you anything. right? so i find it insane that i was detained for almost a full day without knowing that i was detained without actually being told you are under arrest. >> reporter: joined me now, nbc news sr. national corridor, who of course, it conducted that

exclusive interview. it is so interesting to hear from somebody who has been behind bars overseas in russia, now has brittney griner, what did she tell you about her time there, any similarities you reiner? >> there are a lot of parallels, holly, i should say that not, i venture has never spoken up before, she is doing so now, in large part because of the greiner, she understands that she is going through something very similar to what she went there, and she sort of wanted to express her camaraderie and tell her it is to be okay, that you can get through this. so her situation was, she, an american raised in new jersey pictures living in israel. she was traveling in india, and on her way back, she has a layover in moscow. thinks it is just going to be a few hours, the next thing you know she pulled her out of the boarding line, they take her to a room, they searched her back back in front of her, and they find a small amount of

cannabis, a third of an ounce. and that is where her saga begins. she described being in at least six different institutions, including the one that we believe that brittney griner is in right now, and not having a lot of axis to the outdoors basically being allowed one hour a day in a cell that was outside but only had an open air roof, you could actually go outside she decide being limited in terms of what you have in the cell, with 40 other women living in there with her only food was provided, everything else had to come in from your family, and i asked her, what she would say to brittney griner. >> reporter: if you could talk to brittney griner right now, what would you tell her? >> just to be good, first of all, to herself. to try to see things in a light that won't make things worse for you to come if possible, as i did. >> reporter: was actually sentenced to seven and half

years in prison, holly, but before that could happen, she was given a pardon by vladimir putin. she now inks that this was political, that she was essentially a political pawn in a larger international affair discussion between primarily russia and israel, because she has joint citizenship and also the u.s. was involved. you will hear much more about it later on daily news, holly. >> thank you so much, we look forward to see more of your reporting on nbc nightly news. our thanks to kate for that. a couple of minutes when i, 15 or so from the closing bell on wall street, and check out the markets. reacting to that new spike in inflation. we'll show the big board in a second. the prices for literally everything going up. grass, rent, grocery, even a trip to the dentist. what does this mean? it is adding pressure to the feds to do something. the next meeting later on this

month. today's number boosting the chance of another hike in interest rates. i want to bring in several, nbc news sr. business analyst and host of msnbc's 11th hour. i am glad to see you. as we can, were going to pop up and look at how the dow is doing. the question everybody was to know is related to the dow was down about 160 point, is is this the peak of inflation? i know you don't have a crystal ball but what are experts in, and what does this mean for the feds? >> well, i called miss cleo, i sent some other psychics that i know, and we are ready to go. listen, we knew inflation, we all know inflation is a problem, right? it was worse in the month of may, june is worse than we thought it was going to be, as well. and that is across the board. gasoline, goods, everything you're buying at the grocery store, and issues are all the same, it is the war in ukraine, it is supply chain issues. and really, it is demand for labor market remains very very tight so people, we don't like to pay these higher prices, are still willing to pay the higher prices, so businesses are not yet incentivized to lower them.

now you and i talked about this a few days ago. we are starting to see gas prices go down. one of the things we could see the president do in his international trip is potentially negotiated with the saudi's, try to get them to produce more. while that isn't necessarily a long-term goal for the united states, we would love to be completely independent. we are not there yet. i forgot them to produce more, that could potentially impact gas prices. but where are we right now? not a good place, as far as inflation. and this makes it hard for the feds, because what it does the fed need to do to tamp down impression, they need to raise rates. what is raising rates do? if you do it too much too quickly, that could tip us into recession. so treading a very difficult needle. >> stephanie, thank you so much, appreciate, good to see you. next up, inside one conservative groups surge and durations and influence. with that in just a minute.

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news.com. look at how one of the countries against grassroots conservative groups is raking in some big bucks and using culture worlds, talking about turning point usa, started by this guy, charlie kirk. our team reporting that they brought a $55 million, turning point in the last fiscal year. that is up 40% from the year before, and most of that cash, coming from just 10 people, who? nobody knows. those big donors are anonymous. the turning point started, they really focus on colleges and speaking events on the campaign trail, going after what was the quote unquote, woke policies and progressive investors usually try to help conservative students win leadership elections. the scope is much broader and more diverse now. want to begin nbc news reporter brandy padroni who is the byline behind this nbc news piece that is just out. brenda, it is good to see you, thanks for joining us. i'm struck by, you tweeted

about this in the last few minutes here, and i thought this encapsulated so well the heart of it, which is keep usa, the plotting public health guidelines, so distrust in the election, and bringing the culture worlds off-campus and into the main stream. what did you get them? a boatload of money. tell us more about that. >> thanks for having me on. so you know , no turning point, you and i do. and one most people know, what most people think of turning point, they think of it as a sort of college firebrand group. and they would do things like hold bake sales, they charge white students more, or they would set up these booths with this slogan that would be, the whole point with this needle progressive student. we are only two genders to deny the existence of trans-people. but their president, charlie kirk, who you just showed, he went really hard for donald trump can trump really liked turning point. so in 2020, turning point expanded, they weren't just on college campus anymore, they were literally in the white

house, and they were running pretty large media empires. so they used both of these to fight against vaccine mandates and lockdowns and to spread information about the election. excuse me. and those people differently, they brought that topic, the same one that they had used on college campuses, to your dad's to said it's no wonder that d's we're talking so much about those issues right now. turning point is very much to credit for some of that. >> what are they doing with the money? >> so much. first of all, it's going to go to salaries. the largest salary is, of course, due to charlie kirk himself who pulled in about $400,000 for the year. that's just from turning point usa. he also has a podcast that he solicits donations from and he also does things like hoc hot sauce and other products.

they're just big events on the right. tucker carlson headlined one recently. donald trump has spoken at four of these events and then millions finally goes on what they call their field program. these are the boots on the ground. tpus acclaims to have chapters at more than 3,000 colleges and high school campuses and in the future, they're expanding and they're going into high schools and they've set their sights on elementary schools now and that effort is called turning point academy and it just got off the ground. brandy zadrozny, good to see you, as always sdwloo so what happens when a controversial former u.s. president pairs up with a controversial golf tournament that has a lot of cash. trump is planning to host a saudi-backed tournament known as the live series. how do i know that name? if you tangentially follow the world of sports there was a huge

backlash this month over this tournament and this big league, if you will, they've got big over the top cash prizes funded by saudi state money that attracted some of pro golf's biggest names phil mickelson even with the human rights track record. >> millions of dollars as he considers another run for president in 2024. joining me now is nbc news mark caputo. you have new reporting out on this. walk us through why it is so interesting and controversial that donald trump is hosting the liv tournament. i've kofed both of these things. the donald trump factor and the liv factor and both are fascinating. >> this has many of the donald trump hallmarks that have characterized him as a media figure. money spectacle and there's revenge and there's international intrigue. the revenge portion is particularly interesting

especially in the golf world. there are two pgas. the pga of america and the pga tour. both of them have respectively pulled golf tournaments from his properties owing to his political activities, specifically in 2016 the pga tour yanked the golf tournament from his course in doral, florida, after his comments about immigrants and muslims. the pga of america was planning to have one of its tournaments in bedminster, but january 6th happened, but they pull out, as well. the thing is donald trump's golf course, while everyone agrees while he is a showman, and while he exaggerates a lot the fact is he does have world-class golf courses. world-class golf courses are expensive to keep and he's losing money on them and tournaments lose a lot of money

and enter the saudis with the liv series. we don't know how much he's being paid and the saudis have promised as much as $2 billion into this golf endeavor and in the series finale there will be 12 tourneys that will be at doral miami. the purse is $50 million. some of these players have reported contracts with liv golf for $125 million or more. so it's just a huge amount of money, but obviously there's a lot of controversy. the saudis funding this are still under fire from a lot of 9/11 families. they want saudi arabia's government to come clean and our own government to come clean and say here's everything we know about saudi involvement, specifically the kingdom's involvement in the 9/11 hijacking. shockingly it's more than 20 years later we don't have all of that information yet. one of the family members for the nerve group, the 9/11 family group and the 9/11 justice had met with president trump in 2020

and he said president trump had promised to declassify some of these documents and the justice department turned around and made sure that they remained sealed. they had started to come unsealed because of president biden. president biden didn't do this out of the kindness of his own heart. that same group of family his pressured president biden saying, look, this is on the 20th anniversary of 9/11 in 2021 last year. don't come to our memorial, don't do any of that unless you declassify these documents and then joe biden, president biden started to do that. so all of this is now going to be colliding later this month at bedminster. that's when the first of the golf tourneys happens at trump's property and the last one's in october at trump doral. mark caputo, thank you for that breakdown and that reporting also up on nbc news.com. appreciate it. that does it for us at this hour of msnbc reports and the new reporting of hallie on msnbc and over on the streaming platform

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the capitol insurrection. we'll start with vice chair liz cheney's remarkable bombshell at the end of tuesday's hearing when she revealed that an unnamed witness in the select committee's investigation with a phone call from the ex president himself. that witness told his or her lawyer who told the committee who referred the matter to the justice department. "the wall street journal" puts it like this, quote, the revelation can add to several lines of inquiry for federal prosecutors to ask about the riot when the evidence is expanding and moving toward people in trump's orbit if not trump himself. a spokesperson for trump responded to the committee's allegation of witness tampering by surprise, surprise, lashing out at liz cheney. we won't give the statement any air time because the most significant thing about the statement is that it doesn't actually address or rebutt the allegation itself. "the washington post" last night built on liz cheney's