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244,000 people seeking unemployment insurance last week. as americans struggle with the rising costs of everyday goods. new details about former president trump allegedly trying to call a witness involved in the january 6th committee's investigation. we begin this morning with what appears to be a stark difference between the president of the united states and israel over how to deal with iran. during a joint news conference with israeli's prime minister in jerusalem, president biden defended his efforts to restart an international agreement aimed at preventing iran from building a nuclear weapon. >> this is a vital security to both israel and the united states. and i would add for the rest of the world as well. i continue to believe that diplomacy is the best way to achieve this outcome. and we'll continue to work with

israel to counter other threats from iran throughout the region. >> but the israeli leader said diplomacy will not work and that the international community must be willing to use force to stop iran. >> the only thing that will stop iran is knowing that if they continue to develop their nuclear program, the free world will use force. the only way to stop them is to put a credible military threat on the table. >> and with us now to start off our coverage this hour, hagar shamali. it is great to see you this morning. the president says the u.s. won't wait forever for iran to rejoin the nuclear deal. at what point does diplomacy end and then other options, including possible military options, begin?

>> you know, i hate to sound like a depressing voice here, jose, but the issue is, i've never really had a lot of faith that we were going to restart this deal even when biden came back to office -- came to office. the reason for that is things were very different with iran when he came to office. iran and a lot of our partners, for example, like europe and others have lost faith in how much we can stick to these deals, if it could change at the drop of a hat. if the leaders change and we could walk away from something as major as the iran deal that took so much time, so much effort, it's hard to get back to that. you see iran this whole time trying to play this push and pull game where they believe they have a lot of leverage. they do have leverage. the united states, i would argue, has way more leverage. president trump imposed the ma'am mum sanctions campaign, that is hurting iran and their proxies. they want to see that sanctions relief. they're dangling this thread. they've never been enriching

more uranium than ever. the fact is we are already running out of time, i would argue, because you've lost russia a little in the pa-5 plus one. maybe they'll engage. china has a different view. europe doesn't trust us as much. there's a different landscape. there's been this daylight between united states and israel on this iran deal, that's not new, but i don't have a lot of hope for an iran deal that makes a significant difference. >> interesting also in the fact that the -- israeli prime minister essentially said diplomacy does not work with iran. is it that -- not only there's noted a lot of time left, maybe time has passed already in anything substantial coming out of diplomacy with iran. but the united states sees it different. >> yes. so, listen, the answer to that question is yes and no. diplomacy does work. of course it works, but it has to be backed by certain threats. whether those threats are

military force or sanctions and is so on. the fact is that the iran deal was working while it was in place. the ieae was conducting its investigations and examinations. and they claimed over and over again that iran was holding up its end of the bargain. the fact is diplomacy does work. at the end of the day it depends on what you view as success. the united states, and this is what president obama was criticized, they view success as iran holding up its end of the bargain related to the nuclear program. israel and others argue success would mean not just the end of the nuclear program, but that that nuclear program had no risk of returning and that you saw no more money going to supporting terrorism and proxies across the region. the fact is that the obama administration had separated the two. at the same time, president trump did the opposite, walked away from the deal, imposed maximum sanctions. while that did work to undermine financially the terrorist groups

and proxies across the region, it only put the nuclear program worse. it only made it worse. so, it's hard to find a fine line. there is no perfect science to this. >> there certainly isn't. joining us, white house correspondent carol lee joining the president in jerusalem. there is no fine line on a lot of these issues. there's certainly a wide gulf between the u.s. and israel when it comes to iran's nuclear program. how is the president trying to assure israel that reinstating a nuclear deal with iran would be good for its security? >> one of the things we heard from the president to offer that reassurance is to put forward -- say the u.s. would use -- his administration in particular would use military force to stop iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon if it came to that as a last resort, in the words of the president. look, he's not going to convince the israelis that this nuclear deal is something that they

should support. they didn't support it in 2015. so, you're going to see this similar dynamic play out here. what we are hearing from the president, though, is that they are united on the overarching theme of iran not acquiring a nuclear weapon. so, the president's really trying to emphasize that. but at the same time, their differences were very much on display. you heard the prime minister say, look, diplomacy is not going to work. it's not going to do anything to stop iran from getting a nuclear weapon. the only thing that will is a credible threat of military force. and then you heard the president moments later say, diplomacy still is, in his view, the right way to go here. so, they're not really going to be able to square that difference and come to an agreement, particularly when it comes to the nuclear deal. one big difference between 2015, however, and today is that israel has gotten much closer with its arab neighbors and there is this effort to try to have security -- more unified

security against iran. so, that's a little bit of a difference here. the u.s. is very supportive of that. when it comes to this nuclear deal, they're not going to get on the same page. >> and, carol, i mean, this whole agreement and certainly getting closer, israel to some of its arab neighbors is a reality that is really changing much of the map of the middle east in so many ways. so, what's next for the president on this trip? >> reporter: well, the president is about to receive the israeli medal of honor from the israeli president here, and then he'll meet with former prime minister benjamin netanyahu, somebody that president biden knows very well. they disagree on a lot of things, particularly the iran nuclear deal. and that's expected to be a very candid discussion, according to white house officials. but -- so he'll have that meeting. tomorrow before he leaves israel, he will meet with palestinian leader abbas and he will announce humanitarian aid

for the palestinians before heading over to saudi arabia. jose? >> hagar, let's talk about this next phase of the president's trip. so much has changed, as carol was saying, in the middle east. you know, just in the last couple of years. certainly israel's getting closer to neighbors, arab neighbors in the region creates a new reality. one that the president actually talked about today in his news conference. >> that's right. so, under president trump they did a series of normal sdmrags deals with gulf countries in particular and some in northern africa. so, you had the uae, bahrain, morocco and sudan all signed normalization deals with israel, on top of the peace relations they have already with jordan and egypt. they are still in a state of war with lebanon and syria. but what you have there is this huge -- that's a seismic shift when you talk about something a seven decade long conflict and you have these normalization

deals. it's a big deal. two months ago or so, israel hosted a summit with the leaders of those nations, of most of those nations, with which they have normalization deals. those leaders, they talked about a range of issues, namely the threats posed by iran, but those leaders also pressed israel on making moves to work toward a two-state solution and to get -- and to not have violence, for example, during the holidays and so on. and that kind of pressure imposed by arab leaders, that weighs heavily because there is a lot that the two countries are -- the two sides are getting from each other now that you have these deals. for example, trade between israel and the uae has ballooned. and where you had almost no trade before, now it's -- i believe the percentage has increased by 200% or something like that. it's in the range of about $20 billion of trade. that's significant and it shows how much each side has to gain. >> i mean, just the fact that

the president of the united states is going to be flying from israel to saudi arabia is in and of itself an important milestone. i want to bring in nbc's raf sanchez in jerusalem. good morning. talking with hagar the two-state solution. there is clearly a difference there between the president of the united states and the leadership in israel. >> reporter: yeah, jose, that's right. the israeli prime minister and the american president putting out this joint declaration earlier today. had a lot to say about iran. had a lot to say about technology. it had very little to say about the israeli/palestinian conflict. it committed the two sides to continuing dialogue and it committed them to trying to improve the everyday life of palestinians. but the israelis did not commit to pursuing a two-state solution. they did not commit to even future peace talks. prime minister yair lapid is personally a supporter of the

two state-solution, but as we've been talking about, he's an interim prime minister. he's heading into elections in november. and it is not clear if a future israeli government will move down that path. it's certainly something that will come up tomorrow when president biden is in bethlehem, speaking to mahmoud abbas, the leader of the palestinian authority. we are expecting the president to announce some measures to provide more funding for palestinian hospitals. there may be other moves to try to improve quality of life in the occupied west bank. but we aren't expecting him to engage with the really fundamental political issues that the palestinians want to see on the table. jose? >> raf, one subject that didn't come up during the news conference, the killing of the american journalist in the west bank in may. she said she was killed by accident by israeli troops. you spoke with her family about this. what did you learn? >> reporter: yeah, jose. her family is saying they do not

feel the united states has done enough to get to the bottom of the killing of an american citizen likely by israeli forces. i spoke to her niece, lena. she said she would like to see the fbi involved here to figure out exactly what happened. take a listen. >> we also continue to call for accountability and justice and for the fbi to carry out an investigation, transparent and swift investigation that is free from any political pressure, any political bias. and most importantly, we would like to see a meaningful action taking place. >> reporter: now, lena and her family did speak to secretary of state blinken yesterday. he promised the u.s. was pushing for accountability, but they are hoping to meet with president biden while he is here in jerusalem or in bethlehem. there's nothing on the

president's schedule right now that indicates that meeting is go to happen but the family says they're hopeful there might be some kind of polacide. president biden is under pressure not just abroad but at home. dozens of senators have called on the administration to carry out an independent american investigation into shrieen abu akleh's killing rather than relying on the palestinian investigations that have been carried out so far. we'll see if president biden does make any move to go ahead with an american investigation here. jose? >> raf sanchez, carol lee and hagar, thank you for being with us. to continue our conversation is new york congressman gregory meeks, who shares the house foreign affairs committee. congressman, always a pleasure to see you. i thank you for your time. you know, president biden is pushing for diplomacy when it comes to iran. but says military force is the option of last resort to stop

tehran from developing a nuclear weapon. you saw this morning with the israelis had to say. how do you see that? >> yeah, you always want diplomacy. diplomacy is less expensive and the best way to resolve an issue. and i think president biden, as president barack obama and vice president biden did, in trying to pursue a diplomatic agreement so that we can have a better accord and prevent -- the whole idea is to prevent iran from having a nuclear weapon. that's what the original jcpoa was. that's what we're negotiating now. so, you try to do the diplomacy first. but the president was also clear. we cannot allow iran to have a nuclear weapon. they have a chance to read -- to be a part of the agreement that donald trump pulled out of, but we've got to give diplomacy a chance first. >> but has time run out or is there still time to achieve

something in the diplomatic field, vis-a-vis, iran, that has moved forward throughout this time? >> i think the president was clear that time is running out. and that there is options of which he will take place probably, you know, i would guess, before the end of the summer. time is running out and iran should understand, they have a chance now to engage and come up with a diplomatic solution that is good for the region and good for the iranian people, good for the united states, good for israel. but time, their time to make that decision is, in fact, running out. >> congressman, the president said today he's going to saudi arabia to promote u.s. interest and he intends to bring up human rights in the waking of the killing of jamal khashoggi. do you agree with his decision to go to saudi arabia? he'll be meeting with leaders of other arab states as well. >> yeah, i think it's important for him to go, but i think he

has all of the memories, all the chairs of all the national security committees, we also wrote the president. i think that sometimes when you don't agree with someone, it's important to talk to them, but make sure we're raising the issue of khashoggi, make sure we're raising the issue of human rights, make sure we're raising the issue of women, and make sure we're raising the issues that are important that we know of yemen, for example. so, we've got to raise those issues and talk -- just as we talk to individuals who may not be allies, we do talk to individuals who are allies. when we disagree and we think we -- and when we meet with them, we have to be open, we have to be honest, we have to be transparent. and these issues must be talked about when he meets with mbs. >> congressman meeks, always a pleasure to meet with you. i thank you for your time. >> thank you for having me. still ahead, skyrocketing inflation is forcing americans to make tough choices. we're live at new jersey's

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22 past the hour. this morning, a new development in the investigation into january 6th. nbc news has now confirmed that the committee witness allegedly contacted by former president trump is a member of the white house support staff, according to a source familiar with the issue. committee vice chair liz cheney revealed during tuesday's hearing that trump had tried to call a witness not yet seen by the public and notified the justice department of trump's attempted contact. joining us, fill rutker and

coauthor of "a very stable genius," former acting solicitor general and msnbc legal analyst. phil, is there a sense of how soon we could learn details of this witness or when we could possibly be hearing from that witness? >> well, jose, that's an important question. we're all sort of curious at this point exactly who that witness is. more importantly, what information that witness has shared with the house committee. we could presumably learn more of those details through the reporting that so many reporters are efforting today on capitol hill with their sources. but i would expect we may hear some of that testimony or at least the details that that witness revealed in the upcoming hearing scheduled for next thursday. that appears to be sort of the capstone hearing for this period, at least, of the investigation. and i would assume that the committee has been holding that information back with the intent, perhaps, of sharing it with the public at the final hearing.

>> and so i'm just wondering what could the doj do with this information? it was a call that actually wasn't carried out, but certainly of concern, if the former president is reaching out to possible witnesses. how concerned should the former president be about this? >> very, very concerned, jose. this could potentially be very serious. i mean, everyone knows in a law enforcement investigation, you don't talk to witnesses. the only real exception to that is the mob. and donald trump did run parts of the white house -- or maybe the whole white house like a mob operation. and witness intimidation exists as a separate stand-alone crime in the federal code for a really important reason, which is we need our investigators to be able to ferret out the truth. and the defense that i'd always thought since liz cheney mentioned this at the end of the

hearing a couple days ago would be like this, i, donald trump, didn't know this person was a witness. i routinely talked to this person. and so, you know, you can't criminalize me just having ordinary conversation with her. the problem for that is we are now learning this is not some witness -- this is not some person who donald trump routinely talked to. we don't know the person's idea, but we know that much at least. so, that's going to blow a hole in that defense. now, one question is why didn't law enforcement let that call proceed. the committee, when they turned over that information to the justice department, the justice department could have said, call the president back and let's listen in and see. that looks like it didn't happen. so, we're left a little to guess at president trump's intent in the call, but it is looking pretty serious. >> yeah, i mean, the fact that this person would have the

former president's phone number and that the former president would have this person's phone number. just kind of thinking legally and we're saying the seriousness of this, what would witness intimidation be considered legally? if you make a phone call and it's not carried out, is that in and of itself enough? >> oh, sure. attempted obstruction of justice is a crime, so absolutely. the problem will be, you know, for the prosecutors that trump is going to say, no, i was calling to talk about, you know, what she ate for lunch or whatever. i wasn't trying to intimidate the witness. but there's a broad prophylactic rules that defense attorneys use in these kind of circumstances which is, you never call someone. if you're the subject or your conduct is being investigated. this is like idiocy and it just

shows donald trump's kind of arrogance. he just thinks he's above the law. he's going to continue to do this stuff day in and day out until merrick garland does the right thing. and i'm pleased the to see the committee has developed so much evidence now against donald trump, you know, far beyond what that federal judge said back in january when he said it's more likely than not that donald trump has committed various federal felonies. >> and, phil, back to your point that there's supposed to be one more hearing next week, but the committee isn't ruling out more hearings later this summer. what does the committee want to be the big takeaway? >> it seems like all of the hearings have been building and building and we're learning more about what trump himself was doing, the actions he was taking, the actions he was directing on the part of his allies. and that's the through line through the hearings so far. so, i assume that the committee's goal, the strategic game, is for the big takeaway to help connect all of those dots for people and help people

understand exactly what trump's behind-the-scenes effort to steal the election looked like. and exactly how he, at every turn, sort of leaned in towards violence, leaned in towards what ultimately occurred in washington on january 6th of 2021, the insurrection at the capitol, and try to paint a picture for people of trump's direct involvement in orchestrating and inciting that violence in the overall election scheme. >> phil and neal, thank you for being with us this morning. still ahead, mounting criticism in uvalde after the release of that surveillance video of the school shooting. we'll have the former fbi official who created the fbi's active shooter program here with us to talk about what she sees in these videos. what went wrong. took 77 minutes for officials, and there were dozens of them, to go in and take out that shooter.

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32 past the hour. this morning the community in uvalde, texas, is searching for answers as outrage grows over the release of footage from the massacre at robb elementary school. a video shows police running from gunfire initially, and then waiting for 77 minutes in the hallway as 19 children and 2 teachers were killed. mother of 10-year-old maite rodriguez as authorities failed her daughter. >> i'm infuriated but i gained nothing from doing -- being mad, you know. the thing is we're going to take action but it's absolutely disappointing. they failed our community. >> joining us from uvalde is nbc's antonio hylton. good morning. how are the families pushing forward? this video is devastating.

>> reporter: good morning, jose. well, the reality is, some of them aren't really ready to push forward. they're not in that place yet. in fact, the release of the new surveillance video on tuesday night, it brought many back to day one of all of this. they were texting and calling their loved ones saying, don't turn on the tv, don't go on twitter right now. they found it devastating to watch even just a couple moments of some of the video that you were showing there. and, look, some of the hurt and the anger is directed at the reporters from the "statesman" and kvue who initially published this, but so much is directed at law enforcement and the inaction we see happen in those 77 minutes here. and this is deeply affecting a community that's looking toward a coming school year in a couple of weeks and so many of the kids here have been struggling to process this. take a listen to a conversation that our colleague had with a 10-year-old survivor just yesterday. >> tell me about what happened at the end of your school year. why are you here today?

>> so we can abandon weapons now. >> why is that so important? >> so no one has to go through what i've gone through at school. >> can you tell me what happened? >> i was in the robb school shootout with ms. garcia. >> how did you feel when that happened? >> i felt sad because most of my friends passed away. >> reporter: this 10-year-old's aunt reached out to nbc news to inform us that this young boy, he has been really struggling these last several weeks with irritability, with signs of ptsd and depression, trouble sleeping. that on july 4th, when a child his age should be celebrating and enjoying the fireworks, he had a panic attack and finding it really hard to socialize and to grapple with the loss that he as a 10-year-old has experienced. i think that gives you a sense of how the broader community here is doing. they expect to find out more

from a house committee report that will be given to the families and community on sunday morning. right now, many people aren't ready to move forward. they are still in a state of pain and anger, jose. >> antonio hylton, thank you. seeing the eyes of that little 10-year-old boy who saw what he saw, his friends and his teachers, be killed in front of him. i mean, it's just -- you never get over something like that. thank you, antonio. with us now, a retired fbi agent executive who actually created the fbi's active shooter program, which she ran for five years. she's also the author of "stop the killing: how to end the mass shooting crisis." thank you so much for being with us this morning. i've been thinking about so many questions i want to ask you about this videotape that we're seeing. i mean, when you look at it, three minutes into the beginning of the shooting, when he was still actually shooting at children and teachers, three minutes in, you see these five,

first four, but five officers, two of them, looks like an ar or one may have had an m-5. they go in, they get some bullet fire back. one is grazed by something. and then they run back. but for the next 77 minutes, nothing. what do you see when you see this? >> so, sadly, i also had an opportunity to see the video and like everybody else, you're a little more horrified. i think about the courage of that 10-year-old you just spoke to in his community and how they're going to have to pull together and have the courage to go on. and then i think about the courage of the officers who ran into that hallway. and they did follow that shooter into the hallway. they were there before there were rounds sent back to them, but they didn't move forward. so, those first officers who went in there, for whatever reason, even though i think many would say they had a moral duty to get in there, they didn't

have the courage or the mindset that really applies to the training that we've given them. i don't mean we like the fbi or we like me. i mean all of law enforcement has been trained that you go to the threat. when the shooting is under way, your first priority is to get there. and then your first priority is to proceed forward. the language i have heard from my friends in the law enforcement community over the last few days and since that shooting involve words like shame and things that i can't really say on air. you know, they're just -- law enforcement who work so hard to do this, they're just so offended by -- they're so offended by what we saw. >> the first five officers that arrived, they certainly didn't have all the hard protection. they had two long weapons, either an ar and/or an m-5, but then shortly afterwards, more and more officers come in and

they do have harder protection. they even have the shields, all of them with -- look, right there, i don't know if it's a shotgun on the right, but it looks like an m-5 on the left. what is it that basic training and just basic standard operating procedure should look like right here? >> all of this is wrong. i hate to say it that way, but all of this is wrong. the initial officers who went to the door didn't do what they were trained to do, and then they stayed there. and they didn't do it even after they were shot at. but the officers who we see in the hallways milling around and, you know, cleaning their hands with hand sanitizer and in chatting back and forth and checking their cell phones, all i could think of was people bleeding out in a room down the hallway. that's all they should have been thinking about, is how they could get in there. there isn't a question that they had the firepower.

they had it when they had a handful of officers who could have gone in, one, two, three officers who could have gone in at that moment when the shooting was under way. we know we heard at least four rounds after those officers got to the doorway. there were at least four rounds after that. so there's going to be a lot of following and a lot of reckoning. i feel in different ways, too, for those officers who are probably on a mental health watch and all still trying to do their job because we're concerned that, you know, they didn't execute on what they were all trained to do. it's astonishing. it's astonishing they had all that equipment and all that time to think about what to do, but no one moved forward to do that until a certain point. >> katherine, i thank you for being with us this morning. up next, new unemployment claims. numbers just out this morning. we'll break down what's in this morning's report. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. you're watching "jose

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44 past the hour. this morning the labor department announced the weekly number of americans applying for unemployment rose to 244,000. that's an increase of 9,000 from just last week. that's on top of another rough inflation report today showing wholesale prices rose near record 11.3% from last june. this comes after the announcement that the price of consumer goods increased by more than 9% over the year. joining us now, msnbc's lindsey riser at the largest food bank in new jersey and victoria soto, dean of clinton public school at university of arkansas and msnbc analyst. lindsey, what are you hearing from people about how prices are affecting them very directly? >> reporter: well, jose, we know from that report that dropped yesterday, whole say numbers

that dropped today, that americans are spending more on clothing, on housing, on fuel, on food. that is why the needed places like this, the community food bank of new jersey, are so much greater. so, this place they pick up donations from grocery stores, drop them off at local food pantries. if you take a look at the trucks behind me, these big 26-foot truck, they have a fleet of about 20 of them, they all require diesel fuel. last year they drove nearly 500,000 miles. you can imagine how often they're filling up. every time they fill up these tanks, it's hundreds of dollars per truck. the food bank tells me they are experiencing an unexpected 41% increase in their fuel costs. they're not like any other business. they can't just pass that onto the consumer, so they have to swallow it at the same time food donations are fluctuating because of so many economic unknowns. at the same time, the need is increasing. if you take a look at some of the fuel numbers, you can tell why. right now the national average gallon of gas is $4.60 a gallon.

that is about 41 cents cheaper than it was just last month, which is welcome news, but still about $1.46 more than what americans were spending last year. so, people have to reallocate their own budgets. a new study came out and showed that 1 in 12 new jerseyans are food insecure. i spoke to people at a local food pantry. food delivered from here went there to a local church yesterday in newark. people in line told me times are tough. they are no longer doing joy rides. they have to be really judicious with any kind of essentials they need. they don't have money for extras. take a listen to what one woman told me when i asked her what she wants to know and hear from her political leaders. do you have any message to any leaders who are watching about what they need to do to help you? >> no, i don't have anything. do they hear me? that's what i want to know. do you hear me? do you understand what's going on here? you know, i -- i don't think

they really realize that. we do what we can, you know. nobody likes standing out here in the heat and in the cold, because i was coming here in the wintertime, too. you know, but you do what you have to do to make ends meet. >> reporter: jose, that's what a lot of americans are feeling right now. back to you. >> yeah, victoria, struck by her comments, do you hear me? does anyone hear them? this adds, for example, a new report from the world economic forum says that the higher fuel and food prices are expected to hit women the hardest. how concerning is this? and it seems like, well, boy, yes, the numbers are there and people intellectually understand that the numbers are going up and that the price of food is going up, et cetera, but do they really internalize it? i mean, do they hear them? >> jose, our elected officials should hear them, especially with regards to where we are. so, just a couple of months ago,

we were in the thick of the she-session. the recession during the global pandemic hit women the hardest. women were likely the ones to lose their jobs. as women we also lost child care. we see these exacerbating factors bringing the economic pain of today even more to the forefront. and in terms of what happens because of that pain, that's the question mark. to this woman's comment, do they hear me? if she has that feeling of apathy as we're looking forward november, is this a voter who may stay home if she's a democratic voter, or is she someone who will be mobilized if she's from the republican party, or is she someone who is persuadable by a message from an opposite party? i think that listening to these folks on the street is so critical in understanding what november's going to look like. >> yeah, i mean, victoria, we

look at the cpi, right, on our screens. look at the cost of a basic food source for a family. milk up 16%. eggs, 33%. chicken, 18%. butter, 26%. i butter, 26%. i mean, this is -- having a very direct impact on everyone in our country and this is of course a global situation too. but does this translate into political shifts? victoria? >> i think that the degree of pain does -- because these are things that we have been seeing continually for month after month. it's not a blip on the radar screen. we've been seeing the accumulation of economic hardship going back to the start of the pandemic. and let me just stand a little further back and provide only historical context.

and thinking about the great recession of about a decade ago. the great recession also affected our most vulnerable communities. they were barely coming out of it when we were hit by the global pandemic. so what we're seeing is the short-term pain but also the lack of an ability to accumulate wealth for these most vulnerable communities. >> do you hear me? i was struck by her words. victoria francesca and lindsay rogers, i thank you for joining us this morning. brittney griner's court appearance in russia today. you are watching jose diaz- balart reports on msnbc. watchiz balart reports on msnbc.

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with. there's not a lot of reason to doubt that at this point. they're trying now to essentially paint griner as a very kind of positive figure in russian sports a positive role model to russian girls for example but also we heard from the doctor, the team doctor, that she has the medical conditions that are alleviated by marijuana. and that she also has adhd and this could have contributed to something that we heard from griner last week. when she admitted her guilt. that she was simply just packing in a hurry and had no intent to commit a crime. so both the defense and the prosecution had a chance to work with some of the witnesses and what we didn't see today was griner herself testify. that has actually been bumped to tomorrow. her lawyers asked to convene the -- the trial today. she will show up in court tomorrow to testify and in process will continue from there. jose? >> matt, thank you so very much. that wraps up the hour for me i'm jose diaz-balart, i'll be back with more news next hour including new developments in

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good morning 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific. hymn jose diaz-balart. we have a busy day for president biden as he continues the visit to the middle east. right now president biden is about to receive the israeli presidential medal of honor. the country's highest civilian award. this meeting comes after he heldmeetings with israel's prime minister talking about several topics including iran and ending the israeli and palestinian conflict. the president was also asked about the visit to saudi arabia later this week. >> when i see the saudi leadership tomorrow, i'll be carrying a direct message. message of peace and extraordinary opportunities that a more stable and integrated region could bring