that's ever been put up in america needs to stay up forever and sometimes those debates lose out and keep people distracted from thinking about who are the other people that we want to memorialize. if you have further thoughts about this or the program you can always find me online @arimelber.com if you want to get in touch. keep it locked. "the reid out" with joy reid starts now. tonight on "the reid out" -- >> it's outstanding that the lack of urgency and the disregard that he had to protect the capitol, protect the national security of this country. >> capitol police sargeant speaking the cold, hard truth about trump's january 6th culpability and yet just like a cult, many of the people who

condemned trump that day are still working for him. also tonight, democrats were accused of lying about a 10-year-old pregnant rape victim. now that the story is confirmed, what it tells us about the terrifying future of reproductive rights in america. jfk said the torch has been passed. now another generation of young americans is saying loud and clear, pass the torch to us. we begin "the reid out" tonight with january 6th committee's eighth public hearing. the final chapter for now of a damning and horrifying story about donald trump electrifying a violent mob to block the transfer of power on that fateful day. one must imagine trump is watching or rather hate watching every second of these hearings. i mean, they are about him, after all. now we are learning about trump's attempt to possibly influence witness testimony. this week congresswoman liz cheney revealed that trump

called a witness in the panel's investigation after one of the previous hearings. today chairman bennie thompson confirmed to nbc news that the witness -- the witness referenced by cheney was a white house employee. trump was trying to contact a witness and trump trying to contact a witness is one of the major revelations in tuesday's hearing. along with a text exchange between trump's former campaign manager and former campaign adviser katrina pierson. in the texts parscal shared strong words about trump's rhetoric preceding the insurrection. >> he said this is about trump pushing for uncertainty in our country. a sitting president asking for civil war. when he said this week i feel guilty for helping him win katrina pierson responded, you did what you felt right at the time and, therefore, it was right. mr. parscale added, yeah, but a woman is dead and, yeah, if i

was trump and i knew my rhetoric killed someone -- when ms. pierson replied it wasn't the rhetoric mr. parscale said, yes, it was. >> these are a big deal. we're talking about a hard core trump loyalist who played a significant role in trump's rise blaming trump's rhetoric for january 6th death. but now? josh dossier reporting that parscale called trump and his sources say parscale is expected to continue working for trump. in trump world it does make sense because trump isn't the leader of the republican party but, rather, the leader of a cult, like a political -- people like parscale are cult followers. he tweeted exactly one month

later a message addressed directly to trump saying, quote, if they only impeached you twice, you need to run again because to change the system you have to kick it in the arse. i would love to be the only president to be impeached three times because history remembers those that didn't confirm. i'm in. are you? the only thing he left out was sir. parscale's digital firm accepted $150,000 in payments from trump's political operation after that tweet. because along with the cult it's also a grift. meanwhile, the case against trump's big lie is expanding well outside of the committee. today a prominent group of conservatives including lawyers and judges issued a detailed report showing there is absolutely no evidence of widespread fraud in the 2020 election. the question remains, will their conservative peers finally listen? joining me now is david hopey,

former chief of staff to speaker paul ryan and one of the authors of the afore mentioned report, lost, not stolen. the affirmative case that trump lost and biden won the 2020 presidential election. abidal la fayed, opinion writer. thank you for being here. i've got to ask you this sort of baseline question. it's a two-part question. what does it mean that in the year of our lord, 2022, you have to write a detailed report explaining that a person who lost by like 8 million votes actually lost, how bad does that mean that it's gotten inside the republican party? and why do you think that the people who are maga at this stage would listen to the ryan wing of the party, the paul ryan wing of the party is what they basically erased. >> well, one of the things i think you have to look at on this is that this report was looking at every bit of evidence we could find in six specific

states and looking at the cases, they were brought, how they were argued, what was determined by the court or determined in some cases by state legislatures and this election was not stolen. and it's an important point to make because if we're going to have faith in our democracy, people have to know that elections have real consequences and they have -- this one was. mr. trump had he won the 2016 election against great odds was not re-elected in 2020 and once again the pandemic and some other issues had to do with that, but this election and it's important for the people of the united states to know and believe that elections are honest and that the -- a winner is a winner and a loser is a loser and nobody steals elections. that's what we did the report for. it is to lay out these arguments, and we didn't think that anybody had done it before

in the way that particularly the judges who were involved here and other lawyers who were involved here. i am not a lawyer, but i was a participant in this, felt would make the case and the argument so that people could decide for themselves. and there are still people who have not looked at all of the evidence. it hasn't been put all in one place like we have put it in this. so we believe that people will get a chance to look and read this and find out how the arguments were made but that in the end president biden was elected president by winning enough states and enough electoral votes to be elected president, it was not stolen. >> i'm going to ask you this question and then i will have another question for mr. hobey. he knows that, you know that, i know that, mitch mcconnell knows that. he congratulated joe biden on december 15th, the day after the electoral college certified it and confirmed it. the challenge is the people who are hard core maga are not going

to read this report. they get their news off of tiktok, fox news, the kind of republican mr. hopey is, it's -- it's the kind of republican that they see as a rhino and eric gritons does ads against. i wonder, you're covering these hearings as i am. you, of course, probably understand that most of the people who testified in these hearings are committed to voting for donald trump again, again even though their families are being threatened, they're getting death threats. yeah, but i'd vote for him again. do you see anything about what we've seen in these hearings that indicates to you that there can be any change in the republican base based on a report like this? >> well, i think -- >> this is for mr. fayed. >> it is being covered. >> wait. this is for mr. fayed. >> republicans who are maga and other republicans will see it.

maybe they haven't heard this put together. one of the other things you have to understand is that there are people who are loyal to president trump because he's the first one who put a voice to their feelings of being shunned called deplorables. those are things once somebody put a voice to it, people feel loyalty. they also liked the policies we put together and passed and brought -- >> well, hold. give me -- hold. pause. i don't know if he can hear me. those are things that make people loyal. >> i hear you, but i want to let mr. fayad respond and then i'll come back to you. >> well, thank you, joy. thanks for having me on. you know, that's a really great question. you know, it's really difficult to know what these republicans are thinking in particular. i mean, you know, i just can't put myself in these people's heads and understand how they are fully incapable of feeling

shame. you know, i mean, these are people who like you mentioned expressed regret and felt guilty about helping trump win but they won't try to actually redeem themselves in public. but this is a reality and a pattern that has existed since trump first announced his candidacy in 2016. could not have been more crystalized than when a senator from his own party who voted to convict him for inciting an insurrection went ahead and said that she's open to supporting him should he run for president in 2024. i mean, this is really scary stuff. this is a guy who they now know tried to overthrow the u.s. government. let's be clear about what that means. that means he literally tried to end american democracy. literally. and they're sitting there thinking, you know, i'm not sure whether or not i'm going to support him in 2024. are you really not sure? you know, but this all shows, like you said, just how unwilling the republican party

has been to finally leave donald trump behind. and there are a lot of reasons for that. one is the culture of fear and retaliation in the gop. just like any strong man's party and any autocracy. one of the biggest reasons is because donald trump actually delivered the agenda that the conservative movement has been working towards for generations and at the end of the day that agenda may have looked a little uglier than some conservatives may have wanted and now some people are jumping ship. it's great when people stand up and stand up to him and call him out, but at this point it's too little too late. >> i have to ask you this, mr. hopey. first of all, very quick answer. would you vote for donald trump again if he ran? >> he's not my candidate in 2024. >> okay. >> but there are -- the policies that he had -- >> can you tell me -- tell me what -- wait, hold on a second. sir, i need you to listen to me

and have a conversation. what policies. list them. list these policies. what policies? specifically. >> well, the tax cuts and the affect they have having more blacks and hispanics. >> don't bring my folks into this. don't bring my folks into this. >> his appointment of judges to the supreme court. >> ending roe v. wade. >> he said he would appoint textualists, he did. they're scalia like. >> they want to end roe v. wade. >> and the change in china. every president said before his time over the last 50 years i'll be tough with china. none of them did. donald trump was the first one to hang the -- to bell the cat, if you will, on china. these are things that are important to the future of the world. he started to rebuild our defenses. >> i got you. i got you.

i'm so glad you said that, sir. hold on. i'm so glad that you said that because you did work for paul ryan and paul ryan's life's dream. >> yes, i did. >> was to pass a massive tax cut for the super rich. trump did that. he signed a massive tax dhaut benefitted the rich people. >> it was both an opportunity -- >> can i get you to comment on this, mr. fayad. >> opportunity and honor to work for jack kemp and you'll never get me to believe that hard taxes are the way to solve this -- >> let me ask mr. fayad. i'm just going to talk to you because i don't think our other guest is listening. would you agree that in the end because i always tell people this all the time, the one -- the two things donald trump actually really did accomplish legislatively was that massive tax cut and putting those people on the supreme court and that the reason that every single person who testified in these hearings would vote for him again is that he was the means to that end so they don't care what else he did?

>> i think that's exactly right. >> mr. abdallah. >> i think that's exactly right. and, you know, trump delivered that agenda, like i mentioned earlier. the conservative movement has been working towards this for generations. now roe v. wade has within overturned. >> correct. correct. >> that was a cause for celebration for this party. they have finally reached this point and donald trump was the one to deliver that. >> yes. >> he has made it possible for the republican party, and this is essential. he made it possible for the republican party to continue governing through a minority coalition. >> that's right. >> and now they are attacking voting rights in order to maintain that strength. they are attacking democracy and he was the vehicle through which they did that so that's why it's really difficult for them to leave them, to jump off this path at this stage. >> yes. >> it's just their path to holding power and they don't want to abide by the rules of

democracy and the rules of elections and catering to the electorate that they serve. >> trump freed republicans from having to pretend they cared about the voting rights act. he gave them the massive tax cut for the super rich they all the wanted and the judges on the court to get rid of roe versus wade. they don't care if he was the delph himself. this was so revelatory. thank you both for being here. read out continues after this. we're over time. read out continues after this. we're over time.

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two months after an horrific racist mass shooting stole the lives of 10 black americans in buffalo, new york, an emotional ceremony today marked the reopening of the east side topps grocery store honoring the victims with a moment of silence and prayer in what officials called a step forward. although it's the only grocery store serving the area, some residents thought it should remain closed in honor of the

lives of the 10 killed. today's ceremony came with another step forward, step forward towards justice. the alleged gunman was indicted on more than 2 dozen hate crimes and firearms charges. it also comes the day after the u.s. house voted to enhance legislation creating a national amber like system for active shooter situations like the one in highland park, illinois, where the suspected gunman was at large for eight hours. they voted against the measure with republicans claiming it would leave americans living in fear. >> it's because they want you to be afraid of the second amendment. it's because they want you to be afraid of responsible gun ownership. >> this is another example of washington creating another department, another position, spending more money we don't have in order to have a policy objective and advance fear among the american people. >> i think it would probably be

another advantageous use of our time to create a congressional stupidity alert. >> this is about democratic fear mongering and we cannot be safe until they round up every last one of them. >> there's nothing to be afraid about already when it comes to guns in america except perhaps this. >> in newly obtained footage from uvalde, a gunman with a legally purchased weapon killing fourth graders and teachers. today house speaker nancy pelosi excoriated republicans. >> how can republicans vote no to people knowing that there's an assault in their school or their community sentences centers or whatever? these people think their political survival is more important than our children. >> joining me is brandon wolf. brandon, my friend, you know, i can't think of anything that should be more bipartisan and

easy to vote for than an amber alert type system to let people know, hey, there's an active shooter in your area. this would be like saying the current amber alert system, which helps us find sexual predators, is just trying to make people afraid of people who want to rape children. yeah, we should be afraid of people who want to rape children. that's why we have an amber alert system. they kidnap a kid, yes, we're afraid of people who want to abduct and hurt children. my mind is blown that 168 republicans thought that was a bad idea. i can only imagine what you think. >> the absurdity would be comical if it wasn't deadly in nature. i think you have to start by considering what the republican message to this country has been on gun violence for decades. they've told us gun violence is inevitable. sorry you saw your kid to school only to see them carried out in a body bag. sorry you had to provide a dna

sample because your nephew's body was mangled. sorry you sent grandma to the grocery store only to be gunned down in the produce aisle. that's simply the way the cookie crumbles. that has been for decades been the republican message on gun violence. if that's true, if you believe there's nothing we can do about gun violence, that it's just an inevitable way of american life, why on earth would you oppose giving people the very best information possible to be kept alive? i'll tell you why. it's because republican leaders in this country are not capable of nor are they interested in doing the jobs that they've asked for. democrats i think need to call it like it is. republican politicians are obstructionist wanna be reality television stars who view their positions in government simply as a chance to see themselves on tv as often as possible. and, america, we have to be honest with ourselves.

we have to stop enabling these totally unserious political mercenaries who are intoenlt to surround themselves with security without so much as giving us a heads up that there is a shooter around the block. in a functioning democracy this would and should cost every one of them their jobs. >> democrats -- not even democrats, anybody who cares about gun safety, items from the school victims that are headed to ted cruz's house. theatrical things. if you think about the pragmatics of it, let's talk about what happened at robb elementary school. they had an internal system. there's a rap tore alert system that was triggered but there was no panic button in the classrooms that alerted the entire classroom at the same time. while the system did do its job, a more centralized alert system would have been better. this is an evaluation of what happened in the uvalde

situation. when my kids were young, the school system had an alert system that would text you as a parent because you want to know if there is an active shooter in the school, but that's not universal. i don't understand how one can argue that you shouldn't even have the right to be warned that there's an active shooter. are they essentially saying the active shooter has the right to start killing? i just don't get it. >> you know, i don't get it either. again, i think it comes back to the quiet part out loud. they have no interest in keeping people safe from gun violence. they don't care about the staggering number of deaths. they don't care that gun-related injuries have overtaken every other cause of death for american children and teens. they don't care because the only thing they truly care about is furthering their political careers. they're climbing one rung up the ladder after the next. they will do anything. they're wholly for sale. they have been bought and paid for by their extremist base and one man who lives on a beach in mar-a-lago. this is not a party that takes their job seriously. this is not a party that's

interested in saving the lives of american children. quite frankly, it's not disturbing, it's heartbreaking. americans deserve so much better from their leaders. they go to washington, d.c., they go to state legislatures with a public servant's heart. they do good work to keep our community safe. we have people like matt gates who are much more focused on being tv ready, hair and makeup on stand by instead of doing the jobs once again they've asked their constituents for. >> the amber situation might have been needed for him. allegedly which he denies. this isn't even confiscatory. >> thank you very much. still ahead, what the disturbing case of a 10-year-old rape victim forced to travel to another state to terminate her pregnancy says about abortion access and antiabortion activists in america. we'll be right back. antiaborti

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abortions, the girl traveled to indiana to terminate the pregnancy. the indianapolis star was first to report on this by a physician who helped to perform the abortion. president biden shared this and sadly this is also a story about arguments from the party that wants to ban abortion outright but doesn't want to be accountable for the consequences of those decisions. instead of confronting the reality they chose to call president biden a liar. >> why did the biden administration, speaking of lying, just repeat a story about a 10-year-old child who got pregnant and got an abortion or was not allowed to get an abortion when it turns out it was not true. >> we know potentially it was not true. >> the idea that you would have politicians in america trying to exploit a story like this and make up a story like this in

order to advance their own sick agenda tells you they're not serious about the issue. >> ohio's republican attorney general implied that the story was made up because, well, he hadn't heard about it. >> have you had anybody come to you in your state to say we're looking into this? a police report was filed? >> not a whisper. >> he also claimed that the child, who was six weeks and three days pregnant, didn't have to cross state lines because her age was a medical condition that would have allowed an abortion. okay. meanwhile today the president of an anti-choice advocacy group told congress that the girl's abortion wasn't even an abortion. >> do you think a 10-year-old should choose to carry a baby? >> i believe it would probably impact her her life so therefore it would fall under any exception and would not be an abortion. >> wait. it would not be an abortion if a 10-year-old with her parents made the decision not to have a

baby that was the result of a rape? >> if a 10-year-old became pregnant as a result of rape and it was threatening her life, then that's not an abortion. >> the national right to life committee does not agree. their general counsel said the 10-year-old girl should have been made to carry the fetus to term and she would be required, required to do so under a model law that they have written for state legislatures. the ohio general assembly is ready to ban abortions even earlier than the current six-week ban with zero exceptions for rape or insist. in indiana, the state that facilitated the child's abortion, the state legislature is looking into further restricting abortion care. joining me is dr. katie mccue, an indiana obgyn and board member of physicians for reproductive health. thank you for being here. it seems lately we're spending a lot of time debunking facts.

let's start with this one. if a 10-year-old was attempting to end a pregnancy, which by definition is the result of rape because the child is rape, is that or is that not terminating that pregnancy, that's an abortion, right? >> that is an a worse. we are honored to be able to provide that safe and compassionate health care to patients just like this one in this story. this case out of ohio is tragic and devastating, but it is not unique in any way. we see patients like this of this age or with this condition or with this trauma and it is our responsibility as physicians and it is our honor as abortion providers to be able to provide that medically sound, evidence-based compassionate care for this care for the people who so desperately need it. >> what do you make of the

republicans lying now? just, you know, there's no cute way of saying it. saying, oh, no, no, no, we don't think getting rid of an ectopic pregnancy is abortion. we're not going to make that illegal. that's not an abortion. if the girl is 10, we're going to claim that's not abortion? now you are going to make up things that were not abortion? if i was growing up, they said putting an iud is an abortion. they think they're all abortive. they think all that have is abortion. what do you make of the fact that they lie about what they claim they want to ban and that they are -- they lied about specifically this poor girl, this case and said it was made up? >> those are all great examples of how the legislature has no business making medical decisions or medical policy. i went to school for years and years and spent hours and hours of my life training to do this work, and i don't serve in the

state legislature. i don't try to do their work for them, and i would rather that they not try to do my job. pills and iuds are into the abortive. medical procedures that help people to live their best lives and be their healthiest versions of themselves and are safe and medically supported have no business being debated on a legislative floor. that is a decision between a patient and a physician and no one else. >> i will note that multiple republican governors, legislators are on the record, we have the tapes and we'll play them every day if we need to, of them saying 10-year-olds who are pregnant should be forced to have the baby. i want to go into another issue here. the indiana attorney general says he's investigating the doctor, investigating the doctor who treated this 10-year-old victim so his office is looking into whether she failed to report the procedure, the doctor, in indiana because it is a crime to not report

intentionally a case like this and the governor -- and has sent a letter to the governor demanding the release of documents to determine whether she filed the proper complaint. this is the future, right? doctors becoming targets and then eventually women will be the targets and in this case a kid. >> that's exactly right. complicated medical reporting is no stranger to abortion. we have been dealing with changing and shifting regulations around what we have to report, what kinds of time frames we have to report these things in for years and they serve no purpose except to try to trap abortion providers and abortion clinics, to criminalize us and the work that we do and to trap and criminalize patients. again, this has nothing to do with protecting life or protecting health, this only has to do with control and removal of bodily autonomy and taking

away the choice of what to do with your own body. >> i say it a lot. a lot less delicate about it. i say it is about making women into state property. i won't put that on you, i put that on me. dr. katie mccue. thank you for all that you do. back in a moment. u for all that. back in a moment

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biden at 33% approval with just a quarter of democrats thinking he should run for re-election. it's given the times and other media outlets the perfect opening to repeat the favored conventional wisdom that for sure, for sure, for sure democrats are going to get wiped out in the mid terms. republicans rein supreme. and still losing to joe biden in a re-elect match-up in the self-same poll. so how do the conventional wisdom folks know what will happen in november? well, this poll which surveyed 849 registered voters, says so, and so do other polls of 1,000 or sometimes 1200 americans. history. history tells us that the president's party always gets shellacked in the mid terms. except when it doesn't happen. it didn't happen to george w. bush because of a huge external event called 9/11 and the subsequent meritless invasion of iraq. voters tend to keep war time

presidents in. forget that, forget that, forget that, democrats for sure are going to get wiped out. biden's rating is trash, inflation, gas prices, duh. those are the external events we need to pay attention to. except that the maga party wiped out women's rights for abortion. >> the lgbt transgender grooming our children's minds is a national security threat. you need to hold people to treason, start having public hearings and start executing people who are found guilty for their treasonous acts. >> you cannot have a successful society outside of the christian moral order and things like abortion and things like gay marriage are outside of the

christian moral order. >> if you don't control the air, our good air will turn over to bad air. when china getting our good air, their bad air got to move. >> no, no, no, no, no. doesn't matter. democrats are doomed. except the same "new york times" sienna poll shows differently. where have we heard the old the president should simply announce he's not running for re-election line. as you should see, these lines were about boo rack -- barack obama. while the tea party rained with extremism the media ignored president obama was soundly re-elected. he's still unpopular.

maybe it's time for us to admit that we have no idea what's going to happen in november and that external events, not the conventional political wisdom or history will decide and the events overtaking this country are deeply personal and polarizing. gun massacres, abortion, deadly or incompetent policing or the heroic policing that tried to stop a coup. crazy ass prices, fascism, never ending pandemic, these are not conventional times. when we come back, "the new york times" poll did reveal something that i think we can all agree is 100% true about the democratic party. our sole pro democratic party. it is a question we need to have about age and leadership. we're going to have it, but nicely, on the other side of this break. t nicely, on the other side of this break

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somewhat meaningful in predicting election results. even more so, this far from the midterms that are in november. wood poles can do is give you a sense of trends. especially when you read them in the aggregate. they can also give you the sense of the mood of parts of the country in a specific moment in time. that is the best way to read polls. not as predictions, but as status checks. in the new york times, and -- they find that at this moment in time, just 1% of 18 to 29 year old strongly approve of president biden's job performance so far. 18% somewhat approve, well 94% say they want another candidate to run in 2024. that's a status checked it tells the white house that the mood right now is pretty grim. as the times put it, what is by being the young voters most about the leaders of their country is that many of them are three times their age. many believe that they are out of touch with the issues that

young voters say matter most to them. essentially, it's a statement about younger voters that prefer in general the policies that democrats offer, but often feel stifled in wet is extensively a jerry top rusty. here's what we were told this last weekend. >> he's pretty clueless and out of touch. >> you guys are registered democrats? >> would you want anyone else to run in 2024? >> i think that -- my understanding that part of the wager in 2020 was that he was only going to run once, and then give up power to kamala, or whoever. that doesn't seem to be the case anymore. it's not a winning strategy, and it looks bad, and it is bad. and somebody else needs to run, i'll take anyone else. >> joining me now, democratic senator from california, barbara boxer. christina, ramirez, president of next-gen america.

thank you for being here. i have this conversation a lot with my kids who are in their 20s. they say that there is a sense that the democratic party is hanging on to a gym top receiver, but it is much older people that -- they're hanging on to the institutional old party that does not work in the martin politics, and so wet these -- they are terrific, like nancy pelosi who really knows what she's doing, but some of them are behind a step, and sometimes biden's. they are fighting like a culture of people who are gen x and younger. look at the ages of the most radical republicans that we see out there. desantis is 43, holly is 42. madison cawthorn was only 26. matt gates is 40, tom cotton 45, lisa, 30, eight ted cruz is 51. the republicans push forward

young radical people, and the people fighting them are the people like biden who still think that the institutions can work like they did in the 70s and 80s. your thoughts? >> i think that somebody who is fast becoming the betty white of politics, me, i have already -- >> that's a great reference, everyone wants to be betty white, she's amazing. >> but this is how i view it. when you put those pictures of those right-wing crazies, it tells me right away, it doesn't matter how old you are. you can be dangerous at 80, and you can be dangerous at 40. the point is -- but i do think there is an important point to this poll. we democrats do have a very diverse coalition. it truly is diverse, everywhere you look at it. in terms of leadership, it is true that they are getting older. i think it's easy to fix that, i think we need to have younger people standing behind the

leaders, getting behind the podium, and making the presentations. look at the january 6th committee. it's so impressive. people in their 40s, 50s, 60s, and 70s. each one has something to offer. my feeling is that we have to push people forward that are younger and good and smart, and are caring. >> i want to let you counter. what do you make of it? we love elizabeth warren, there are people that love bernie sanders who is about's oldest joe biden. is it the sense that people are not being allowed to stand behind the leaders, and also lead? where is it the issues that younger people want, police reform, more aggressive prices on voting rights, and that's not happening because other leaders are old school? >> i think it's that young people are voting for democratic candidates, but they are both voting on progressive issues, and a progressive agenda. this was not a news flash, the

poll that biden was not these for candidate. . a that was bernie sanders, and he's pretty old. when i saw in the new york times and the harvard news voter pool, was that 32% of young eligible voters plan on showing up this election. that track is on turnout for the youth voter turnout in 2018, that helped democrats win back the house, and also elect a slew of progressive, diverse candidates that are must -- you elected congresswoman aoc, katie porter. this is the largest, most diverse and progressive generational voting bloc in the country. they are just starting to flex their power, and they are demanding the democratic party be more responsive to their issues, and they are actually winning. the message that icy is that elected officials do not discount the power of a pissed off generation. >> i hear all of that. senator boxer, here's what happened. the aoc's, the younger

candidates get elected, and then say that they want build back better, we went all this great stuff. we want very aggressive voting rights bills. and then joe manchin says no. and then joe biden says we will split build back better, and then that's the way the politic works. progressive things that would excite young voters cannot get through the senate. >> let me say this. the way that the senate works, as you know, it is a supermajority to get anything done. it has nothing to do with age, we could all be in our 30s or 40s. they still could not do it. i think that the panelist we have on here is so, right it's about the issues. we are going to have the first national elections since january 6th. think about that. with these hearings, for the young voters, to the young voters, to those in the middle, it's the first ones since that horrible roe v. wade decision.

we have crazy republicans telling ten year olds that they have to have a forced birth at their age. we have seen an uptick in gun violence, an uptake in suppression. i think it's the issues, and yes, let's get some more younger people out there with the older ones. >> as a member of jim -- we get skipped all the time, we're just going to get skipped. a give you the last word, cristina tzintzún ramirez. >> i want to say that young voters are asking on the issues. what we need to realize is that if it wasn't for young voters, donald trump would be president. mitch mcconnell would be a majority leader. we would not have the first african american woman in the supreme court that we have one investments in climate, and historic gun safety legislation. let's turn out, young people, this election. because we can send a powerful message every single one of those elected officials that is trying to caper country backwards. if they want to claim to the fast, but the future will belong to america's young people. >> i agree, and listen.

the way the republicans did this, they spent 50 years relentlessly voting, losing, voting, losing. and so they won. you have to vote persistently. vote like a grandma, that's how you get what you want. they never stop voting. she's in the church had, she shows, up show about. that's why he gets when she wants ultimately. former friend senator barbara boxer, cristina tzintzún ramirez, thank you both very much. that is >> tonight's read out, along with crusaders right now. tonight on all in -- >> after our last hearing, president trump tried to call a witness in our investigation. >> who did the ex president paul, and will there be legal consequences? >> it's highly unusual to do that, and that's why we won't put that in the hands of the justice department. we're not gonna make that decision. >> tonight, new reporting that the january 6th committee might try to call trump as a witness, and subpoena mike pence. then --