hundreds of people took to the streets. 680 kidnappings since january that have been documented by the haitian police. >> and that's documented once again. imagine how many are occurring on a daily basis. jacqueline charles, i thank you so much for being with us and to keep this story alive. i thank you. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. i'll see you tomorrow night on nbc nightly news saturday. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. good day, everyone. this is "andrea mitchell reports" in washington. homeland security's watchdog with oversight over the secret service has accused that agency of erasing text messages from secret service agents on duty with the president january 5th and 6th after they were told to save them for the investigation into the insurrection. a spokesman for the secret

service disputing the inspector general's claims saying a reset of the agency's mobile phones and a system migration where some data were lost began more than a month before the request to save them. those messages would be critical evidence about january 6th committee testimony that the president got physical with his protective detail for not letting him join the rioters at the capitol. moments ago, president biden and crown prince mohammed bin salman meeting each other with a fist bump after more than 18 months of tense negotiations and more than two years after then candidate biden said he would be making mbs and saudi leaders a pariah for their role in the brutal murder of journalist jamal khashoggi. i'll be joined by dr. ashish jha to learn more about the hypercontagious ba.5 covid variant sweeping the country, when the next booster shot is

approved for people 50 years of age and whether monkeypox is a pandemic. we begin with pete williams. pete, the letter from the office of the inspector general reads in part the department notified us that many u.s. secret service text messages from january 5th and 6th, 2021, were erased as part of a device replacement program. the usss erased those after oig, the inspector general, requested records of communication from the usss as part of the events on january 6th. pete, this is the whole dispute, before or after. if it was erased before they were asked to save the records, not such a big deal although a little bit coincidental. after, that's a big deal. >> two things about that. first of all, the secret service agrees with the first part of that statement. yes, lots of phones were migrated. it was a general migration program to upgrade the cell phones of secret service agents and it did as a result fail to

record some of the text messages that were apparently not backed up as they should have been. the question is, though, when did the ig ask for it. on that point the secret service pushes back very strongly. in a statement they say that the ig asked for these communication records for the first time february 26, 2021, after the migration was well under way. it says the secret service notified the ig of the loss of certain phones' data but then confirmed that, and this is key, none of the texts it was seeking had been lost in the migration. so as i understand it here, from secret service officials, there are two points they want to make. number one, even though the migration had started and they got the request, it hadn't gotten to some people and they were able to give it from the 20 people that it wanted records for. and then there was some additional stuff that the ig

asked for and the migration had already been performed and those texts were not saved. but the second point here is that the secret service says, and i confirmed this with some agents, that secret service agents typically don't use texts on their cell phones. that there's, first of all, a policy at the secret service against using text messages because of the possibility that they can be intercepted and they're only to use them in emergencies. agents have told me that as a custom they just don't use text messages. still, would be good to be able to confirm that by getting the actual text messages themselves. so january 6th committee members say they want to know about this. so do the two committees that oversee the department of homeland security of which secret service has been a part since the department was created. so i'm sure there will be some additional questions here, but there's a very big dispute between the ig and secret service on when this request actually was made. >> and let me just also ask you

one point of difference historically because the big factor here is that tony ornato, who was the head of the protective detail with the president, became so close to the president, when these agents are generally trying to be nonpolitical and they go from one administration to another. and it's very high rank to be the head of the presidential protective detail and a coveted position. and that donald trump plucked him from that and made him a political appointee, the deputy chief of staff for management. he was the one in charge and he is central to this whole dispute of what happened and he was not physically there but he was aware also of the vice president's situation and a lot of contentious exchanges between the vice president and some of his detail on whether or not he was going to be moved from the hill when he was under siege. so tony ornato was a central figure here. and his behaviors are being examined because he was loyal to donald trump, was a trump

appointee and had been a regular agent for so many years. >> sure. that's one of the many reasons why these records are potentially of interest. now all the emails that agents exchanged, according to both the ig and the secret service, were preserved. so this is not about emails, it's only about text messages for the reason you stated and many others. you can understand why there's great interest in seeing whether there were any text messages and what they might say. >> pete williams, thanks, as always. joining us now, former u.s. attorney joyce vance, former senior fbi official and former u.s. attorney, chuck rosenberg, jen palmieri and eugene daniels. chuck, following up on pete, as part of your career as leader in law enforcement, if in fact the inspector general is correct and

these messages existed and were erased, that's a big deal if they were erased after the request to save everything because they were under investigation and wouldn't they normally want to save everything that pertained to such controversial days anyway? they knew right away this would be investigated. it was part of the impeachment right away. >> yeah, those are good points, andrea. here's my take on it. i can't tell you sitting here whether it was nefarious or non-nefarious and the timing of the request still needs to be worked out. but here's what disappoints me. somebody at a senior level within the secret service should have said, you know what, let's just stop the phone migration. if we're really swapping out old phones for new phones, let's hit pause because after what happened on january 6th, including the days just before it and just after it, someone is going to ask for that stuff. i don't know if it's going to be congress or prosecutors or the

inspector general, but someone is going to ask for that stuff. sometimes it's not nefarious, it's just the complete failure of imagination. my experience with large bureaucracies is they have separate pieces that move independently and you need senior leadership, thoughtful senior leadership to get the big picture and understand all of the pieces, to take a step back and to say let's hold on to this stuff. the phone migration is important but it's not as important as preserving data because inevitably someone is going to ask for it. >> and there is some talk, eugene daniels, that there is some witness who overheard some of the traffic, some of the radio traffic. there was definitely a controversy between the president and his protective detail about whether he could go up to the hill. we know from cassidy hutchinson that there was a plan to do that and that they were being told don't do that by pat cipollone, that going to the hill would be

the worst thing he could do after everything that happened the night of the 5th. so there was already an issue about the security of the president as well as the potential legal and political fallout from being up there with that mob. >> yeah, absolutely. it's very clear. we also heard from folks this week when they had that hearing. ali alexander, they knew that the president was going to call them to go to the capitol. so there's all these questions continuing to surround this issue. i think that's what's really interesting about this inspector general report and comment is that there's a reminder there are so many different types of investigations going on right now when it comes to january 6th. the house committee is obviously the one getting the most attention. they're having a prime time hearing next week. but other places where folks are investigating and trying to figure out what happened.

and what happened in the car with president trump allegedly trying to get everyone to go to the capitol, possibly trying to take over the wheel of the car, there was a police officer that said that was something that could have happened. when you watch video, the car did stop so the question is what happened at that time. and the folks trying to counter what cassidy hutchinson said a couple of weeks ago, they're doing that as anonymous officials. so she was completely on the record talking about what was told to her. if you can get other people to get on the record and talk about what actually happened that day, that's what this committee wants to know. >> tony ornato would be one of the best witnesses as well as head of the detail in the car. jen palmieri, let's play cassidy hutchinson. this is what she had to say about what was happening. >> tony described him as being

irate. the president said something to the effect of i'm the effing president, take me up to the capitol now. the president reached up towards the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel. mr. engel grabbed his arm and said, sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel. we're going back to the west wing. >> so, jen, you know her proximity and what she was told. you can imagine also there are occasions when someone might have -- somebody in the detail might have texted ornato even if they don't usually text and say you won't believe what's going on with the boss. >> yeah. i had the same job that cassidy hutchinson had for leon panetta when he was chief of staff. so you hear and see a lot and you get surprised how frank and candid senior staff are to you.

there's a lot of venting that happens around that person. they're often the best source person in the white house. but, you know, it is true that in my experience the secret service agents don't use a lot of texts. they are concerned about security. but the venting, the kind of texts that might happen after an specious as she described in the car, you know, that could be -- that could be possible. and, you know, we don't know it's convenient but was it a conspiracy? we don't know. the breakdown, andrea, between the wall that usually exists between agents and politics and how that used to be separated and how that broke down during the trump administration, that's something that the secret

service now i know is concerned about and wants to repair. >> yeah, and they have had a lot of other problems. in fact an agent being sent back from israel just this week who was there in advance preparing for the president's visit after an altercation, so they have had their problems in recent years. joyce vance, i want to ask you about patrick byrnes from overstock, who was in that incredible, crazy, hysterical meeting really in the oval office. he's apparently arriving for a deposition today. so what do we think he might add? what value? we heard what pat cipollone said. he found him in the oval office with rudy giuliani, mike flynn and sidney powell that day on december 18th and said who are you and why are you here? they were let in by a junior staff. >> i'm going to try to avoid making bad metaphors about being overstocked, right? it seems like, though, this is literally the guy who could fill

in all of the blanks, who could give the committee a firsthand report on this meeting, this unscheduled meeting that suddenly takes place inside of the white house at a pivotal point in time. you know, you can speculate about all sorts of information that he could provide. this could be the formation of a conspiracy. he might know details about the former president's state of mind. if he is forth coming and truthful with the committee today, this could really be bombshell testimony. but of course we don't know precisely what his mood is going in. he's agreed to testify. that could be because he's appreciative of the lessons of steve bannon that if you completely flout a congressional subpoena, the justice department will prosecute you. or he could have decided it's time to come forward with the truth. this could be a really important moment. >> joyce vance, chuck rosenberg, jen palmieri, eugene daniels,

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president biden on an historic trip arriving in saudi arabia and meeting crown prince mohammed bin salman, also known as mbs, with a fist bump. we'll show you that momentarily. there you go. the two men going inside. usually it's for ceremonial tea at the airport which takes quite a while. they're slated to wait more formally shortly. the much anticipated interaction being scrutinized to see if president biden brings up human rights and mbs' role and determined by the cia in ordering or overseeing and taking responsibility or should have taken responsibility for the murder of "washington post"

contributing columnist jamal khashoggi. there has been mounting pressure since 2019 when then candidate biden called saudi arabia a pariah state on an msnbc debate with us. nbc's carol lee is traveling with the president and joins us. also with us, jeremy bash, the former chief of staff at both cia and the pentagon. carol, first of all, thanks for all your reporting. you penned the piece today on nbc.com with some of the others contributing but it was your piece on all of the interactions that led up to this. what are you expecting the president to say to the crown prince today, who is the de facto leader, because king salman has been pretty much not running the country for several years. carol? >> reporter: right, andrea. there's been a lot of back and forth in the run-up to this event. the president arriving here from your own reporting there were a lot of internal deliberations from everything to why the president should go, he was

reluctant to go initially and his aides had to sell him on this trip. part of what the selling point was is that it wasn't just about u.s./saudi relations in and of themselves, it was about the relationship and security within the broader region and that got the president more interested in doing this trip. but every detail has been scrutinized internally and even down to what we saw there, that fist bump. there were discussions about would they shake hands? should the president smile? should he touch the crown presence's arm? is he going to offer warm words when they're pictured together on camera? all of those questions are underlying this but when it comes to the substance of what this meeting is going to be about, there's a whole host of issues they have to talk about. there's the administration's goal of integrating israel more into the region with its arab neighbors. we saw they were opening their commercial flights to israel. the president making the first

flight from israel to saudi arabia and making that historic moment. and then you have other things like iran, which is something that will be discussed again tomorrow when other gulf leaders are here and then the conflict in yemen. the administration would like the truce to be extended. human rights is a big thing. the president is not committed to raising the khashoggi murder directly with the crown prince in his meeting. he was asked that yesterday and didn't make a commitment. we're told he's expected to but you don't really know until that meeting takes place and we'll see what the white house has to say about that. and then oil. that's the other big thing that this meeting is about. the u.s. wants saudi arabia to increase production to deal with those gas prices at home, so we'll see whether the president gets something there. and when he goes home, that's going to be, frankly, andrea, the big thing that americans are looking for.

>> absolutely. jeremy, there's so many trade-offs. you've got the 9/11 families who were very much against, amnesty international putting out statements. john brennan, former station chief for the cia and cia director, station chief in saudi telling us the other day if he were in the administration, he would advise against this trip. ben rhodes, deputy national security advisor for president obama. so you've been in the government and dealt with the saudis, is this a wise move going there? >> i think it's necessary, andrea. the fist bump is the minimum kind of warmth between an american president and a de facto saudi leader. in the past you've seen these leaders, leaders of our two countries, hold hands literally walk arm in arm, embrace, air kiss. you're not going to see that here because the relationship has fundamentally changed. it's not just about khashoggi,

it's also about yemen. it's our concerns about the way the crown presence has treated his political rivals, including the one-time leader of the intelligence service there, mohammed bin salman's cousin and rival. i think the president understands we also have been alignment of strategic interests. when you're president, you've got to deal with people you don't like as well as people you do like. we have an alignment of interests on the iran question. iran is weeks away from obtaining enough material to develop a nuclear weapon. we need to quickly align with israel and our gulf arab partners to deal with that challenge. we also need them to play a much more aggressive role in the energy markets to provide capacity on the markets as a counterweight to the way russia has pulled back. we also need them for a variety of other things, including

fostering israel's integration into the administration, which is a monumental part of this trip. it's not what he wants to do but i'm glad he's doing it. >> there were many signals from the saudis that they're not going to give enough on oil. will the president get enough commitments to come home with something? >> i don't think, at least from what we've been hearing from folks inside the administration, that we're going to see some big grand announcement about a specific number of barrels per day that will be put on the market. i don't think you'll see that done publicly. i'm not sure the saudis are ready to commit. i'm not sure that we know exactly what we need. this is part of our long-term strategy. we need more capacity on the markets to try to drive gas prices down for the american consumer. over time ultimately we'll be

weaning ourselves off of fossil fuels and going to a more green economy. this is part of the dialogue. one of the things leaders in the middle east are looking to invest in is green technology because they know ultimately the days of reliance on fossil fuels, those days are numbered. >> and do you think that there is any chance of getting more than the current cease-fire in yemen, any way to push the saudis on trying to get a deal, some way to end that horrible war? >> we'll push for it and i think there's been progress in recent weeks and our diplomacy has been very aggressive, but i don't think we're going to see a breakthrough on this trip. actually the number one issue is going to be iran, andrea, because they're so close to that breakout capability. no one is hungry to go back to the iran deal that was struck under the obama administration. i don't think we're eager to do it. the deal is on the table for the iranians to take or leave. by the way, even if we get back

into that deal, iran can probably still break out within six months so we'll have to remain vigilant about iran's nuclear capability with or without that deal for the very long term. >> plus their advances in missiles and drones which aren't even covered by that deal, so iran is a threat in many other ways. thanks to carol lee and jeremy bash. thanks to you both. in moscow, wnba superstar brittney griner's trial adjourning for 11 days to give her defense more time to prepare. she was wearing a nirvana t-shirt. she pleaded guilty to drug smuggling charges and could face a maximum of ten years in jail. today inside the defendant's cage, she held up her team holding up her number at the all-star game. arizona's department of health

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jha. >> thank you, andrea, for having me back. >> well, i'm so interested in your take on all of this. so covid first. just how bad is this latest wave going to get? we have anecdotally here in d.c. and people in new york and traveling back from europe more and more people who are fully vaccinated and boosted are getting, you know, covid. some for the first time, some for the second time. >> yeah, andrea. as you started, ba.5 is the most contagious. if you were infected earlier this year you're still at high risk of reinfection. if you've not been vaccinated recently, you have a high risk of having a breakthrough. the good news is our vaccines are working really well at keeping people out of the hospital. we have therapies that are making a difference. really, really important that any american over the age of 50 if you've not gotten a shot this year in the year 2022, you need

to get a shot now. i think it will make an enormous difference. >> what about people who are under 50? when is a decision going to be made on whether they should be approved for the boosters? >> this is a great question. we've been having these discussions for a while. i know the fda and cdc, they are the agencies that make these decisions. they are looking at the data, looking at the evidence. my hope is that we're going to hear from them reasonably soon about their decision on whether this is a good idea or not. >> what's taking so long, dr. jha? >> well, you know, look, we always wanting to be guided by evidence and data, right? and when we are guided by evidence and data, we tend to do well. when we are not, we tend to get into trouble and that's what the fd achl is doing right now. fda is looking at the evidence and data and trying to make a thoughtful decision. i think we should give them the space to do that. >> and people who are maybe immune compromised or very elderly, are you recommending a second booster now or wait until

another omicron booster is going to be approved if it's in september? >> if you are at high risk, over the age of 50, certainly immunocompromised, you need to be up to date and that means you need to have gotten one recently. if it's been five months or more, you need to get it now. it will not preclude you from getting an omicron specific vaccine in the fall or winter once that becomes available. i am generally recommending people not to wait. protect yourself now and you can protect yourself again later. >> should we be masking up. >> well, andrea, the evidence on this is very clear. if you are in an indoor setting where it's crowded, wearing a mask makes an enormous difference. it clearly protects you, it prevents spread. so in crowded indoor spaces, i do that. that's what i think people can absolutely -- people should be considering that. in terms of mask mandates as a policy, that is something we

felt strongly needs to be decided at the local level by mayors, by governors. but indoor large settings, masking reduces spread. >> what about outdoor in a stadium but close quarters? i know someone who just got covid. the only thing she can figure is she was at a baseball game. >> yeah, you know, it's interesting. we don't think there's been much spread outdoors. there is some anecdotal evidence that maybe with omicron ba.5 given how contagious it is, maybe you can get it outdoors. i think if you're in a crowded outdoor space, if you are sitting next to somebody for three hours screaming and yelling at a baseball game, i can imagine that would be a context for spread. but outdoor spread continues to be a very, very tiny portion of this pandemic. so that's a reason to keep moving things outdoors as much as possible. >> and let's talk about monkeypox, which has a very scary name. cases are up around the country

and in the epicenter, new york city, there's a lot of frustration about the lack of vaccine appointments. the fda saying 800,000 vaccines will be available at the end of the month. what is your concern about the rapid spread and the slow distribution of vaccines? >> yeah. we're tracking this very, very closely and here's what i can say. we are working 24/7 to make sure that every american who needs a vaccine gets one. i've watched the same lines in new york city and you're going to hear more this afternoon about new doses of vaccines that are going to be sent out. we'll have that what you describe from the fda, we'll see if we get a big tranche of vaccines authorized by the fda in the next couple of weeks. i really thing in the days and weeks ahead you'll see vaccine availability become far more widespread. we made a lot of progress on testing availability. it's true that this is a virus we've known about for a long time and have the tools. we haven't had an outbreak like

this before or certainly in the last decade. we are doing everything we can. and i think you're missing the fruits of all of that in the days an weeks ahead. >> i want to get your reaction to a new gao report that the cdc is still not prepared to respond to disease threats posed by international travel. they can unable to quickly and identify the number of passengers exposed to a specific infected passenger on a flight. does that worry you, especially now that we have relaxed or eliminated the requirement for testing before return flights from overseas? >> we really are in a different moment in the pandemic where we have relaxed a lot of the international masking and testing. we need cdc and other agencies to be able to jump. what we really need to do if we're going to think about future threats, let's say a novel virus, we need really strong surveillance systems.

i know the cdc has made enormous progress in the last year and a half on that. are we where we need to be? no. we need to keep plugging away and making progress. i do think we are getting better but we definitely still have more work to do. >> dr. ashish jha, it's really a pleasure. thank you for being with us today. >> thank you, andrea. and crossing the line. the horrifying case of a 10-year-old girl raped, impregnated and now the focus of a national debate over abortion access and state rights. this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. "andrea mitchl reports" on msnbc.

the house is expected to vote this hour on two bills that would restore and guarantee abortion access nationwide, except it looks as though it's never going to get voted on by the senate. last night senate republicans blocked legislation that would have enabled women to travel to other states where the procedure is legal. a horrifying case in ohio is highlighting the deep divide in the country on the issue, especially as the supreme court ruling. police have arrested a man in ohio for raping a 10-year-old girl who traveled -- then traveled to indiana to get an abortion. nbc news national correspondent gabe gutierrez reports several politicians are walking back their previous skepticism where they claimed the whole story was all made up.

>> reporter: at an arraignment wednesday in columbus, ohio, a judge ordered 27-year-old rape suspect gerson fuentes held on $2 million bail. >> it's my understanding she just turned 10 years old. >> reporter: fuentes confessed to raping and impregnating a 10-year-old girl. a detective says she traveled from ohio, which has banned most abortions, to neighboring indiana to end the pregnancy. it has become the latest flash point in the national abortion debate following the supreme court's reversal of roe v. wade. it was first reported earlier this month by the indianapolis star newspaper citing a single source, an ob/gyn in indianapolis. the story went viral. last week president biden brought it up. >> imagine being that little girl. i'm seserious, imagine being th little girl. >> reporter: but republicans, including ohio's attorney general cast doubt on the story. >> we have regular contact with prosecutors and local police and

sheriffs. not a whisper anywhere. >> reporter: then after the suspect's arhett, he issued a written statement. my heard aches for the pain suffered by this young child. i am grateful for the diligent work of the columbus police department in securing a confession and getting a rapist off the street. "the wall street journal" editorial board had also previously questioned the story. now it's published a new editorial correcting the record. writing it appears president biden was accurate. still, indiana's republican attorney general says he'll investigate the ob/gyn who performed the procedure for failing to report it. that ob/gyn says in part doctors must be able to give people the medical care they need when and where they need it. the case now highlighting deep divisions in this ccountry, as states scramble to clarify their own laws. >> it's a hard truth to realize that these horrible things are going to happen to children and other people in your state because of the really severe restrictions that are placed. >> reporter: to those who oppose

abortion. >> with so many questions about what really happened, it's a real shame that the biden administration rushed to exploit this poor little girl's situation. >> one of the bills being voted on today is the ensuring access to abortion act which ensures individuals crossing state lines seeking reproductive health care or those traveling with them are protected from criminal punishment. joining us is one of the sponsors of the bill, democratic congresswoman marilyn strickland. congresswoman, thank you for being with us today. i understand it's a procedural vote. a vote before the final vote in the house. we just saw gabe's report on this 10-year-old girl who traveled from ohio to indiana to have an abortion. now indiana attorney general is threatening criminal charges against the doctor. what is your reaction? >> well, my reaction is this is a textbook example of why we need national legislation that protects reproductive freedom and the right to safe and legal

access. by introducing this bill, we are basically trying to protect the 14th amendment which gives you the freedom to travel, interstate travel, and that includes getting access to safe and legal abortion, andrea. >> senate republicans blocked a democratic bill thursday that would protect the rights of women to travel and wouldn't even let it come to the floor for a vote, so this is a classic situation where they use the filibuster situation where they wouldn't let the vote be held. so that means that nothing like this is ever going to get passed by the senate. >> well, it means it won't get passed by the senate this year. this is why as democrats, we are working hard to expand our senate majority. there are some seats in play we think we can be competitive in and perhaps we can use reconciliation or getting rid of the filibuster specifically for reproductive rights as a way to make sure that women have access to safe and legal abortion, andrea. >> there was a huge uproar over this story about the 10-year-old

child. it was alleged in print, editorials and certainly by jim jordan and other members of the house, republican members, that this was all made up and that this never happened. i mean we know in fact it did happen. this 10-year-old girl was raped and to go through the horror of that. and now under the law to require her to go through childbirth, the body of a 10-year-old, nine months of carrying that rapist's baby and then go through the whole -- you know, all of childbirth rather than have a quick medical procedure, as unpleasant as it might be, and now to prosecute the doctor. what is your reaction to all of this? >> well, my reaction is that it is tragic and horrible that a 10-year-old girl had to become a national story, because most of the time when we're talking about reproductive health care, that is a private decision between a woman and in this case

sadly a child and her doctor or health care provider. but this is an example that illustrates that there are these draconian laws happening across the states because roe v. wade got overturned. in some cases they have outlaud abortion in all cases, period. we want to make sure we have a national standard that allows access to reproductive health care and safe and legal abortion. black women and indigenous women tend to have higher mortality rates. women of color, lgbtq plus women are disproportionately affected by having to carry children to a full term. as we talk about the equity of this conversation, we have to make sure that voices that are often not heard in this conversation are heard loudly and clearly. >> some of your colleagues and democrats around the country criticizing the president for not doing more than his executive orders. one of his executive orders is already being challenged by the texas attorney general today. but when he says his hands are tied by the decision to a great extent and by the 50-50 senate,

doesn't he have a point? >> oh, he absolutely has a point. the supreme court is one of the branches of government and they have a majority 6-3 and they are taking advantage of their ultra conservative viewpoint in taking away the right for safe and legal abortion. i think what's happening right now too is that democrats want to see democrats are fighting this and they want to see that it is something that's important to us. and so president biden has done what he can. we're trying to do what we can in the house. we know that we need to expand our majority in the u.s. senate to make this so we are protecting people. >> congresswoman marilyn strickland, thanks very much for being with us today. >> thank you, andrea. and the gallery group. meet the lawmakers who have watched every january 6th hearing from inside the room after surviving the insurrection huddled together in the house gallery and bonding afterwards. that's next on "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. chicken.

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meeting. you see the picture taken, i think it was treated out by peter alexander so he then shouted a question as to whether or not he was going to raise the issue. did he raise the question? i don't have the exact wording and we are going to see what he called the pool spray momentarily. this is the white house video of what was taken. the video taken by the reporters, camera people, white house journalists who are traveling with the president inside the meeting in the palace. this has never been visited by an american president before. let's see if we can hear anything.

you can see the secretary of state taking down the saudi leader across the king. he is dressed in all white.

>> president biden! president biden! >> thank you, thank you. thank you. >> apologized to the families. and if you can see the president being taking out.

i think it was the second question trying to get what that was. the second question was president biden, i am told, the saudi arabia still up, which is what he said about saudi arabia back in 2019, november of 2019. questioning what he would do. he was then a candidate and that is all that has been said. so, as you can see, that is the moment that we saw mbs sitting across from the president of the united states. we have been reporting on some

increased oil production that could soften the rising gas prices here at home, but it takes a long time for them to get through all of the changes that finally gets to the pump. any case, we will be reporting throughout the day on msnbc on the saudi meeting and the invocations of human rights, the protest, as we have been reporting and all that went into this meeting and what the outcome is, both domestically and internationally with a key ally. we'll be back, of course, next week throughout the day and i just want to say we will bring the report about the gallery group but we will be posting that and we will of course bring it to you as well next week. that does it for this week. a busy week, remember, follow

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