>> a very good day to all of you, from msnbc world headquarters here in new york. welcome everyone, to alex witt reports. we have breaking news from uvalde, texas on another emotional day for parents of robb elementary. nbc news has confirmed, parents have now received copies of this video of the mass shooting on may 24th. surveillance video of the shooting was leaked last week and then published by the austin american-statesman. two teachers and 19 children were killed that day, when a gunman burst into a classroom and opened fire while on enforcement officers waited in the school hallways. today, parents also picked up printed copies of a preliminary report on the shooting, compiled by a gop-led texas house committee.

we'll go to nbc's priscilla thompson, who's joining me now from outside the uvalde civic center. priscilla, welcome. first of, all have you seen the report? what do you know about it so far? and what are you hearing from parents? >> good afternoon, alex. we have not yet seen that report. we do expect, however -- but we do know, i should say, is not for the past several weeks the committee members have been speaking to witnesses, they have been speaking to law enforcement and even visiting the school. in order to compile this report that is supposed to shed light on what exactly went wrong on that day. and all morning, those family members of the victims have been coming here to pick up those reports. walking away with those very thick booklets of information. and they are reviewing that information. because, in just a few hours, they are going to be meeting with the committee members to go over that report. and so, they wanted them to have an opportunity to see it,

look at it ahead of that meeting. once that meeting gets underway, that is when the report is going to be released to the public. and everyone will have a chance to look at what is in it. but i can tell you, having spoken to parents over the past day or so, some of what i'm hearing is that people want answers. so same thing about folks in this community have been saying for weeks now. they want to know what happened. i spoke with adam martinez, his second grade son was at robb elementary on the day of the shooting. he was one of the students who was evacuated and, thankfully, unharmed. but he described for me what it was like seeing that surveillance video and seeing how officers acted in that school, compared to how parents like him were being treated outside of the school. take a listen to some of what he shared with me. >> when i got there, they started pushing me away. being very aggressive. very aggressive.

i went around the other corner, and there is another cop over there. he had his gun out. he had his gun out at us. you look at that camera, inside the hallway, and those guys didn't have their guns out. they didn't go in there, they weren't aggressive. why were they aggressive with us? they are making the hole police force in the united states look bad. they are a disgrace. >> and so, still, so much anger here. still so many questions here. i asked mr. martinez, what's next? once this report is released, what comes next? he said, accountability. he would like to see criminal charges, especially if there is proof that there were people inside of those classrooms that died while police were waiting in that hallway for 77 minutes.

alex? >> yeah, that is one distressing concept. okay, priscilla thompson, thank you so much for that. let's break it right now, texas state senator, roland gutierrez. a democrat from san antonio, a familiar face, tragically, for many of us. in the wake of the uvalde shooting. senator, thank you for joining us and thanks for being so closely involved in this response to the shooting. i want to ask you, first, have you had a chance to look at this report and if so, what's stands out here right away? >> alex, i've seen an executive summary, the first seven pages of the 77-page report. you want to be respectful of families, of course, but a family member sent it to me. i've had an opportunity to talk to most of the families, i'm under covid protocols, that's why i can't be in uvalde right now. but at the end of the day, there's not a whole lot of new here. i appreciate the report on the work that was put in, for sure. we can all semis after these

last eight weeks what is in it. what's in it is a lot of lack of control, no command of any sort inside or outside of that building. but i appreciate about the report, unlike what we've seen from the department of public safety, there's not finger-pointing. it's has pretty much every law enforcement unit that was there has its responsibility to bear. it says that other, more powerful law enforcement entities or enforcement entities that had greater resources should have taken over, should have been part of those decisions. of course, it goes into the lack of communication. no radios inside the building that worked. in light of that, there should've been an outside command center by one of those other agencies that had more firepower, human resource power. but, unfortunately, that just did not happen here. >> you may have heard priscilla, the reporter they're, discussing a question that's been brought up. and that is, if there is a way to prove that, during that

waiting time, when you saw officers in the hallways, children were killed or died. during that waiting time. that has got to be one of the most pressing questions that parents want answered. tell me if you agree and if there are other things that they're telling you they want to know about. >> well, there should be accountability of some sort. it's my hope a lot of these families have lawyers, as they should. we have something called the texas claims act, where these families are going to have a hard time piercing the protections there. but i'm certain there's gross negligence here, extreme gross negligence. it's my hope that their lawyers can be able to avail those families of some relief. because what happened here is that, as that gentlemen just discussed, mr. martinez, there was zero sense of urgency in that hallway. zero sense of urgency. it was as if many of them were on a sunday stroll, it would seem. we had children inside that

were dialing 9-1-1 for help. and no one did one damn thing. >> yeah, you're right. that's what we remember. roland gutierrez, thank you so much. i hope you get out of covid protocols in, because we need her voice at their. thank you. also developing for you this hour, the january six committee is gearing up for what could be its final hearing. at least for the series. thursday's primetime event will focus on what donald trump was doing during the 187 minutes of the capitol attack. it comes as the panelist ill considering whether it will seek to interview the former president. earlier today, committee member zou lofgren discussing the approach moving forward. >> we will make that decision and the appropriate timeframe. this investigation is very much ongoing. the fact that the series of hearings is going to be concluded this thursday doesn't mean that our investigation is over. it's very active, new witnesses are coming forward.

additional information is coming forward. there are things that we are looking at, still. >> well, before that next, during the trial begins for former trump advisor steve bannon. it's going to be in court tomorrow on charges of contempt, for failing to comply with a subpoena from the house committee. meanwhile, new reaction today as frustration grows among democrats over joe manchin. the senator said he would not support an economic package that contains new spending on climate change or tax increases targeting the rich or corporations. earlier today, senator bernie sanders had some strong words for his democratic colleague. >> if you check the record, six months ago, i made it clear. they've got people like manchin, sinema to a lesser degree, who are intentionally sabotaging the presidents agenda, with the american people want, what a majority of us in the democrat caucus want. nothing new about this. the problem was that we continue to talk to manchin like he was serious, he was not. >> and this is more bears at

the white house for, has once again. moira, we have the president, who is facing some backlash for his trip to the middle east. but was he able to make some economic strides during his time overseas? >> yeah, alex, the white house is adamant that this was a productive trip. that this was something that biden needed to do. they said they made some commitments around climate, as well as technology and 5g. security concerns for saudi arabia, around iran specifically. president biden emphasizing that this meeting and stabilize the u.s. relationships was necessary, so that there isn't a hole left open for china or russia to move in, to build those relationships. but, obviously, the top concern on everyone's mind, as we are talking about gas prices, is whether or not more oil production would come out of this meeting. we're hearing from the white house that there is a commitment to pump more oil from the saudis, but no specifics on how much and no

specifics on exactly when that might happen. and this all comes, obviously, as inflation is hitting 9.1%. gas prices are dropping, but they're not low enough as they were last year for a lot of americans really struggling. with inflation rising like, that that means we are at risk of yet another interest hike. that's jared bernstein, the white house economic adviser, was on one of the sunday shows this morning to kind of lay out what the white house is looking at. he said that it's not acceptable. here's some of what he had to say. >> no denial at all about the unacceptability of these elevated prices. we've talked about some of the actions were taking, particularly in the energy space but also when it comes to ports, getting goods from ship to shelf. we're doing everything we can to help ease pressures. congress needs to step up and do a lot more. >> bernstein went on to say that this was the reason we're saying biden really hundred and a global energy increases. but in terms of what congress can do, you are just talking about senator manchin impeding

the negotiation on reconciliation. manchin saying at a local radio station in west virginia over the weekend that he did that because of the inflation crisis we're seeing. because people are struggling day-to-day, he wants that to be the focus. bernstein going on to say, in response to senator manchin, that president biden is adamant. if he can't find a legislative path to clean energy, he sees it as such an urgent problem but the president could seek to find an executive order in order to solve that. so, that is kind of looking at what the white house's focus will be now that they're back stateside. alex? >> all right, mayor barrett, thank so much for that. joining me now, congressman ted lieu, congressman from california. he sits on the judiciary and foreign affairs committee. good to see you, my friend. have a few issues to talk to you about, all of which i've been previewed here. let start of the middle east trip. what do you make of the controversy, first of all, over the presidents meeting with the saudi crown prince? >> thank, you alex, for the question. saudi arabia has engaged in human rights abuses, they have

repeatedly violated the law of war in yemen. they killed journalist jamal khashoggi. at the same, time oil prices are really high and the president of the united states is trying to reduce oil prices. part of which is set on the world market. so, i'm not going to criticize president biden for trying to reduce oil prices. he's going to one of the countries that produces a lot of oil. so, i think it's proving that the president is trying to reduce oil prices. >> absolutely. but we, know as a president that when he arrived late last, night back to the white house, it's going to be a couple of weeks. because opec doesn't even have its meeting till the first week of august to figure out if they will do that. so, everyone has to sit tight. let me ask you about the 16 committee meeting. that, as you, know is going to hold its final hearing, at least for now, final hearing on thursday. at least for now. it will be in primetime. this panel is going to be focusing on donald trump's hour-long failure to stop the capitol attack. i'm curious what you are looking out for and what you

expect to come from this hearing. >> as a house impeachment manager for the second impeachment and, again, i think it's shocking we have to specify which impeachment. >> point well taken. >> but at the second impeachment, it was clear to all of us that the former president of the united states did just not do anything during those critical hours while the attack was happening, he actually sent a text, actually, a twitter message, encouraging his supporters to go after vice president pence. in my mind, he was egging them on. he wanted this attack on the capitol to succeed, because he wanted the certification of joe biden as president not to happen. or at least to delay that certification. >> that is certainly a point that i would bet good money will be included in thursday's primetime hearing. what about what happened friday? as you, know the committee subpoenaed the secret service after news that they had erased text around the insurrection, but from january 5th and sixth. do you believe the agencies

explanation, that this was part of a system overhaul? >> i don't know. there's a lot of unanswered questions. the most important aspect of this is the january six committee get the text messages. my hope is they can still recover these deleted messages. and then, when i think all of us would like to know is, why didn't anyone in the secret service put the stop to the migration of these text messages to another system and prevent the deletion? so, we should get some answers for that. at the end of the, day most importantly, we just want to know what happened on january six from the secret service. my hope is they will provide as much information as they possibly can. >> when you look at the bulk of information from the first seven hearings, at this point, sir, can you think of a reason why the doj would not open a formal investigation into the former president? >> the department of justice does not typically announce who they are investigating or who they are not investigating.

my view is that the january six committee, as well as at their second impeachment trial, provided more than enough evidence for the apartment of just just open and investigation into the former president. i hope they've done that. we don't really know, but what we do know is that people close to the former president have been getting actions by justices. such as john eastman getting itself and seized, rudy giuliani getting his cell phone seized. so, that tells me the department of justice is investigating, at least, people were close to the president. >> yeah, but to your point, they will not be signaling what they're doing right now to the general public, that's for sure. let me switch gears a bit and ask you about senator joe manchin. as you know, pulling the plug for talks on climate, energy and tax packages. what do you make of what senator manchin is doing? and can you figure out his motivation? i mean, i know you're not inside the state of west virginia but, that being said, it seems like there are a few things that he does go along with his party on.

>> let me say, first, that democrats are putting people over politics. and we'll pass legislation to go over price, gouging to lower ocean shipping line fees, to reduce prices on fertilizer and fuel. we also don't really have a meaningful majority in the united states senate. the truth is, we have the same number of republican senators as democrat senators. we require the vice president to break all ties. if we had a meaningful majority, which is two more democratic senators, that we could pass a lot of legislation. this november, that can be fixed. we can elect two more democratic senators. >> yeah, that is a message the party, certainly, is putting out there. ted lieu, always great to see you. have a great sunday. meanwhile, in a city where covid is on the, rise the transit system there is lifting its mask mandate tomorrow. but why now? its mask mandate tomorrow. but why now? but why now? that's easier to control...

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infections, the infections and hospitalizations as replaying through much of this country. fueled by the latest, highly transmissible and immune evasive omicron sub variant that is driving case numbers to levels not seen since last winter surge. it's got nbc's got, cohn even san francisco for us, where cases are among the very highest in the u.s.. scott, welcome to you, how are folks dealing with this latest covid surge where you are? what has been the guidance from the experts? >> you know, it varies, alex. as you said, california has among the highest case rates in the country. here in san francisco, this has been throughout this pandemic one of the places most aggressive about things like mandates. and people have been very compliant here, and 84% vaccination rate. here is the ferry building in san francisco, which is a popular gathering spot on a sunday, you still do see people, even outside, wearing masks. but, officially, there is very

little -- . part is going to lift their mask mandate tomorrow, despite criticism from public health experts. a different story in southern california, in los angeles. they're saying, if the rays don't come, down they could reinstate an indoor mask mandate at the end of the month. and already, in the san diego public, schools where they're having summer school, the mask mandate is back. nationally, officials are saying please take this subvariant seriously. >> the way i look at this is this with a virus that is still evolving rapidly. we're still in the middle of this pandemic. now, obviously, where you're in a way better place than we were here in half ago. for instance, when the president came at office, think of where we wear in january. but we have more to do, we have to stay on top of this virus, keeping up with new vaccines, adequate treatments. we can get through this, a but

if we take our eye off our ball we've got to really stay focused. >> here in california, where looking at about 16,000 cases per day. about 4400 people in the hospital in san francisco alone, about 400 cases a day. and the test positivity rate of close to 17%. remember, so many people are testing at home that the counts are probably higher than that, considerably. so, alex, this is just not over yet. >> yeah, not by a long shot. okay, scott, cohn thank you so much. from san francisco. so, let's say donald trump soon announced as he is running again. with that really served some kind of shield against being indicted? with the attorney general might consider, coming up. the attorney general migh consider, coming up. red by progressive, so it was a happy ending... for almost everyone.

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racing club national champion died in the hospital. officers then shot and killed the suspect in east's murder while trying to arrest him. it is not clear whether east knew that suspect. wildfires are raging across southwest europe, caused by a heat wave that is caused thousands of deaths. they continue to fight fires in portugal, spain, france and that is the people have been forced to flee their homes. and take a look at this body cam video of an indiana man rushing into a burning home and saving five children. nick bostic lead for kids to safety and then ran back into the houses cooped up a six or a little girl who was still trapped, jumping through a second story window to save her life. none of the children or hurt but he suffered severe smoke inhalation, a broken arm and some cats on his hand. but he says he is grateful he could save those kids lives. wow! but a hero. jury selection starts mar in the contempt of congress trial

of steve bannon. the former trump advisor faces misdemeanor charges for failing to comply with a subpoena from the january six committee. the panel wants to question him on his whereabouts the night before the riot, when trump supporters tried to persuade republican lawmakers to overturn the election. the committee also knows that he spoke with trump by phone at least twice on january 5th, but for saying on his radio show all hell would break loose on january 6th. joining me now, barbara mcquade, former u.s. attorney in michigan and now a law professor at the university of logical and msnbc legal analyst. and in a very pretty backdrop on the sunday afternoon. thank you for joining me, barbara. so, we have steve bannon's legal team that issue that 11th hour motion to dismiss the indictment. that happened on friday. but so far, the judge has not delay that case. so, what are you going to be watching for on monday? and those taking steve bannon to trial less than the odds that he will ever testify? >> i think the judge made a

very clear, he is not going to delay this trial. i think it's a go. there have been concerns about whether or not you could select a jury in light of all the publicity steve bannon has received. i've seen this again and again, they're plenty of people who exist in the world with other kinds of news junkies that we are. so, i think they will be able to seat a jury. but i do take steve bannon at his word when he says this will be the misdemeanor from hell and that he will go, quote, met evil. so, i suspect this will be the steve bannon show, that he will testify, use a scorched earth defense. but as was where's last, week there is not much of a defense left. i think it will be what we sometimes refer to as a slow motion guilty plea. as to your last question, about does this mean we'll ever get testimony from him. i think the answer is no. a strategy the justice department frequently used in mob, cases organized crime cases is that, after someone is convicted of a crime like this, they could still be compelled to testify in the grand jury. it may be necessary to offer

use immunity to someone like steve bannon, maybe that's a trade they're willing to give up. not being able to use his testimony against him in a trial later on. but i think they very much want to know what he meant on january 5th when he said tomorrow, albright hell is going to break loose. and what they discussed in the morning of january 6th. so, that can still be obtained by immunizing later, after he is charged. >> as one to tell you that your description there of a slow motion guilty plea in this, that also concurs with harry lippman, who told me the same thing last hour. not the slow motion part, but he believes that ultimately he will be convicted. let me ask you about there is a talk of a january six hearing, that's going to focus on donald trump and his inaction during the riot, 187 minutes worth. you've said, a strong case can be made that trump committed five counts of manslaughter on january six by recklessly causing the unintended deaths of others. so, again, make that case for, us why you feel that way where you're going to be listening for on thursday. >> the fact that the committee

is focusing on the three hours of inaction, what is the significance of that? i think it is that president trump had a duty to act and he did not do so during those three hours. there is certainly something going on as to whether he cited the mob and has gone. but only for us, who has the president has an affirmative duty to ensure that the law is safely executed. he's commander-in-chief of the armed forces. after he saw the violence occurring at the capitol, he had the power in the duty to call up the national guard to make it stop. or even to go to the white house briefing room and make a video recorded statement. or, simply, to go on twitter tell the mob to go home. we know, that when he eventually did, that they did indeed go home. so, the federal manslaughter statute as someone in a position to cause the death of others within a tent that was simply grossly negligent. so, you have to show that he intended for anyone to die, just that he was grossly negligent in allowing it to happen. that's why we're looking for --

if this isn't even a final hearing in the story falls off of primetime. do you expect the doj to pick up where the committee left off? what more are they going to have to investigate to convince a jury in a court of law, not the court of public opinion, that donald trump should be charged and ultimately convicted for a crime? >> i'm one of those people that believes that the justice department has been working diligently behind the scenes, focusing mostly on exploiting digital communications, text messages, email messages, direct messages. and that putting these members of trump's inner circle into the grand jury will come after they've completed that and after the hearings. i think there's a possibility for a number of charges against donald trump. but one of the things you have to do when you charge a criminal case, unlike what we see with january 6th hearings, you have to anticipate every possible defense. in the january 6th hearings, we're only hearing one side of the story. effectively disprove them.

and so if donald trump were to say, i was acting in good faith robes getting this legal advice or i believed -- you have to be able to mitigate that. it requires talking to everyone that trump talk to, and looking at all of those communications. i think they will do that. i think they will get there. again, and less there is something that we can't see that is unknown, i think there's a very strong likelihood of seeing charges of conspiracy to defraud the united states or conspiracy to obstruct initial hearings. the proud boys, the oath keepers, you could charge them with sadistic conspiracy. even that indictment to add that to trump and hit members of his mental circle. >> we will see if it comes to pass. barbara mcquade, thank you very much. meantime, daily images of war and tore mild on many of the headlines coming out of ukraine. up next, a more uplifting story about the kindness of strangers and people who open their homes to those most in need. open their home to those most in need.

new developments in the war on ukraine. russia's claiming it used long range airbase high positioned weapons to destroy a storage facility, with harpoon anti ship missiles that were given to ukraine by nato. along with a high mars launch system and transport vehicle in the donetsk region. nbc news has not able to confirm these claims. ukrainian authorities are releasing more video showing the aftermath of strikes on civilian targets. one british defense chief says this is a sign russia is struggling. >> these are not military

targets. these are acts of terrorism. these are random events where president putin is endorsing the tasing out of civilians and creating civilian casualties. there will be war crime investigations. but what it reflects is how russia is struggling, how russia is not fighting a conventional war. russia is trying to impose this psychological pressure. >> president zelenskyy acknowledge that russia is increasing attacks all over ukraine have promised to take back territory seized by russia. nbc's, alison barbara, is joining me from kryvyi rih in central ukraine. alison, welcome. once a billion death in particular has resonated around the world. it is not just in ukraine as, we talk about the four-year-old little girl that was killed in benicia. or can you tell us about her funeral today? >> about 100 people came to say goodbye to that little girl.

she was just four years old. her name was lisa. i assure you the entire country of ukraine was mourning with them. this is a little girl that was on her way to a speech therapy class with her mother when missiles hit the city of vinnytsia. she was four years old. there was one photo in particular from that day, a horrific photo of her body in the street next to a stroller. that outraged people in this country, people around the world, with a number of ukrainian officials pointing to that and demanding for the rest of the world to declare russia as a state sponsored of terrorism. today that little girl was laid to rest at her funeral. music was playing, her grandmother said that some as for lisa and the way she loved to dance. russia claimed they targeted a house of offices of the garrison. the videos that day in vinnytsia, it tells a different story. a spokesperson for the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine says that russia fired

missiles at the city of vinnytsia, far away from the front lines. two of those were intercepted, three hit the city center. 23 people died that day, among them, that four-year-old little girl her mother is still in the hospital in serious condition. alex? >> it is all heartbreaking. thank you for bringing us the latest. nearly 6 million people have fled ukraine for other parts of europe since that war began. they are living far from home. they're in an familiar places, many of them depending on the kindness of strangers. my colleague ayman son bc's richard louis traveled to europe to talk with some of the people who opened their homes to people who needed a place to stay. richard, it was two moms i understand who stood out to you. ce tthey really did. these two moms from the midwest and southeast, they make you want to jump out of your seat and get moving when you see them. in month four of the russian attacks, they are doubling their efforts to help refugees that are in the country. these two ex pats recently took

it upon themselves to turn one hurts into what heels by creating not just housing but homes. s by creating not jus ♪ ♪ ♪ why are you cranky boy? >> a k-pop inspired you to video, not from happy go lucky teens, but from ukrainian war refugees trying to guard their -- taped after they fled, and found new hope in a neighboring country. >> the story begins on 24th of february, this was very scary because we woke up from the bombs from the sirens. >> kate dari and vedika are best friends. teenagers from odessa, ukraine. they are part of more than 300,000 refugees who found safety in the czech republic from russian troops who ravaged their homes. check support for refugees like kate has been tremendous. in part because of the country's history of invasion

by soviet forces. >> doug and caroline heart embody that helping spirit. the michigan ex pats opened their modest apartment to these girls. >> we saw the images on tv, the need was obvious. we had an extra room. that is something we can do. >> volunteers connected the heart family with the three girls,, now living without their parents in a foreign city for the very first time. >> these girls have been a blessing to us. it's like we've added three people to our family. >> [speaking foreign language] >> they found what they lost in the last few months, friendships, coffees, a routine of new normalcy. >> they will just like -- our parents, our second parents or -- because we don't have physically our parents. >> it brings out the mother in

me. i felt protective. i also felt joy because there is a purpose i can do this, this is something that i can do. >> hi! >> another american mom, and a former nurse living in prague, kimberly bianca neat schooler a, she has also found her purpose amidst the ukrainian crisis. >> i thought i could help as a nurse. the more people that i came in contact with, the more people that i met i found that they really just needed housing. they needed a roof over their head. >> that was a tall order. prague's housing crisis makes it difficult even for locals to find apartments. >> not for cam, she stepped up. she challenged her connections in real estate to start a nonprofit called amity. the result, kim says, housing 130 refugees so far. >> we secure the lease, we provide the deposit, and that may provide at least the three

months free rent for these milies. ist ct from donations or we have had a few people that have offered to ac sorf family and cover it. kim isn't only thinking about shelter, she is also working on getting refugees health insurance, food, education in check schools and kindergartens, job and for deep connections with them along the way. >> hi! >> like she did with sisters yulia and marina from ukraine. >> we want to help those families become self sufficient. they have a place here in prague. >> this could go on for two years, as president zelenskyy said it most recently. are you ready to do this for two years? >> absolutely. absolutely. i am ready,, having five kids i think it has made me be very strong and resilient. i'm really looking forward to the next few years. i want them to be able to go home. >> many ukrainian refugees in

the czech republic a dream of when it will be safe to return home. for now, all they have are the things from home that they grabbed in minutes as they fled. >> it's a gift from my parents. it is really sweet and i love this mouse a lot. i'm happy that i have girls here and also doug and carolyn -- there is so nice to us. i'm just happy that i'm here and i'm safe. we just miss our past life so much. i notice, ed, the memories are just exploding. >> including new memories, like dancing in the streets of prague. >> during the interview,, teenager kay, who you heard there. read her parents names out loud from harper's church if it before she escaped. her parents gave her so people could see who her family's, and reading it she cried because

alex, she was worried that she would never see him again. also, about kim who finds homes for people in prague. 20 $500 gets a family a home for three months. ily that is the best kind of st, i want to apply to bring it to us. that's the kind of story but i really appreciate. it makes me cry because it's so good. >> it was hard for me, alex, when i was there interviewing them. their hearts were right there. >> well, thank you for bringing it to us, that was a good, one i appreciate it. he got hours of riveting footage that is now in the hands of the january six committee. next, we are going or not one-on-one with the filmmaker behind unprecedented, and find out just how he got such intimate access to former president trump and his family. s to forme president trump and his family so you can do more incredible things.

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the months after trump left office. here's a clip from an interview with former president trump, following the attack on the capitol. >> it was a sad day but it was a day where there was great anchor in our country. the people went to washington, primarily, because they're angry with an election that they think was rigged. a very small portion, as you, know went down at the capitol. and then a small portion of them went in. but i will tell you, they were angry from the standpoint of what happened in the election. because they're smart and they see and they saw what happened. >> well, joining us now is alex holder, the filmmaker behind unprecedented. i don't worry, alex, that clip we had coming out was not relative to your show. that was joe biden and saudi arabia, oops on that. but let me ask you, former president trump has told new york magazine that he's made a decision about running for the white house in 2024. he said the big decision is to announce before after the

midterms. but after following trump so closely, are you surprised, from what you, cleaned all the time you spent around him, are you surprised that his attempt to hold on to power? that it extends to going for a second term again after losing his first try at it? did you ever hear him indicate he was going to run again after january 6th? >> so, donald trump doesn't normally do the same thing again when he fails. this is something we saw -- >> good point. >> during the research of this project, he pivots whenever he fails. the idea of failure and the trump brand is just something that doesn't work in his mind. i wouldn't be surprised if that is going to run. whether he does run is another question. but if you've seen this, areas we'll see how he positions that particular questions on the line. but we'll see. >> i cannot believe you put it that way, because i thought that as well. very few people articulating it like that, the two alex, is

great minds thinking alike. but let me ask you about your discussion with the january six committee. how they may be using your documentary footage. first of, all are we going to see you thursday's hearing or and any ones that could be happening? there's been a tease they might happen, as well, in august. with do you know about that? >> so, i don't want to go into too much detail with respect to the actual committee. because i don't want to interfere with what they're doing. but in terms of what they wanted to talk about, i mean, they were obviously quite surprised that we had this access with the president and his family, at these key moments. of course, the famous situation a few weeks ago was when, and ivanka trump's position that she gave to the committee, it was very different than what she had given to me and to others. to judge whether there's a legal issue there, but certainly there's a difference of position. they're interested in the material we captured and also specifically on january six, as well. when we had footage of the insanity and the chaos that was going on on the steps, outside

the capital. which just shows how much of a war zone it was on that day and had tragic it, was as well. >> your documentary, unprecedented, it's been out for a week now. what's your take on how it's been received? did you accomplish what you set out to do? >> so, it's been mixed, that's exactly what we expected and also intended. as a controversial, film a controversial family. i think that, due to the subpoena and all the media interest around it, before it came out, there is this expectation that the series was about, a, january 6th. well the series definitely shows the trajectory of how january six comes about, that is due to the rhetoric, bellicose -- coming out of the trump campaign. and obviously the lie that wasn't spread for weeks after the election had been won by president biden. it also goes into detail about who this family's and the

interactions between them and the family. i think a thoroughly important to understand how you get to january six. you also need to understand who these people are, they essentially ran america, for all intents and purposes, for about four years. >> yeah, let me ask you very quickly about that one clip that's gotten some pushback. that was regarding what vice president pence was seeing on his phone. there is some pushback there that, in the documentary, apparently he says i printed a hard copy for my trip home. what exactly was happening during that clip right there? there's some contradiction, shall we, say between would you say in the documentary and what the vice president's office says. >> at the end of the day, i think the vice president's office has a somewhat ten-day shows view on history. i'm confident, the team is confident, i thought, my director of photography very clearly somebody was looking

at. which is a draft resolution that was going to be focused on very soon about him invoking the 25th amendment. there's plenty of other materials that they're that corroborate our position. also, it seems quite odd, when you hear his aid in the background say that the house members received it a while earlier, when he was looking at. certainly could've been a confirmation email that they saw before. in fact, before speaker pelosi saw as well. it doesn't really match up. they have their own view. what we put in our series is accurate. i stand by it. it's great. unprecedented thanks for chatting with us about it. that's gonna do it for me on this edition of alex reports, i'll see you again saturday noon eastern. yasmin vossoughian continues our coverage on embassy nbc. on embassy nbc. gum health mouthwash.

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good afternoon, everybody, good afternoon. it's good to see you. i'm yasmin this again. i'm yasmin vossoughian, we have a lot we've got a lot to cover the to cover in the two hours two hours ahead. ahead. a painful meeting about a painful meeting about to to begin in uvalde. begin in uvalde. families get new reports about the school shooting, including the chilling release of this video that the world saw, a live report in just a moment. there also a showdown to the committee. deadline for tuesday, saying turn over the documents or else. all this happening as steve bannon said to have trial tomorrow. and rising covid cases here at home. some city so alarmed their consider going back to mask mandates. more on that ahead, as well. but we want to start with that breaking news out of uvalde. where, a short time from, now families in the victims and the committee elijah will meet with the texas investigative