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included this chilling video of white officers were doing while children were being killed. >> were they told that it was a barricaded subject? that's why they backed away? we don't know that. we don't know everything. we need some type of answers and some type of accountability. that is what i hope comes out of it. any little thing. >> i want to go right to uvalde, texas. members of the texas house investigative committee are now revealing what they have learned. families of the victims in this mass shooting back in may in rob school in uvalde. 400 officers were on the scene as they waited over an hour until they were able to neutralize the shooter. let's not forget, 11:30 that shooter entered the school. not until 12:50 was he in fact neutralized. two separate classrooms in which he opened fired with an ar-15 style rifle. 19 children being killed.
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two teachers as well. the incident officer on the ground there, chief pr -- pr don toe, being cited in this report. also citing a greater law enforcement, both state and federal law enforcement as being responsible for not acting. back with me, cedric alexander, law enforcement analyst and -- black law enforcement executives. also joining us, the advisor the western state center and one of the nation's leading experts at hate and extremism. cedric, let's talk through some of this. you are speaking in the last hour as the port was being released. as i read through some more of the details, they are astounding and casting at this wider net beyond, as we concentrated on, we focused on more local officials specifically the incident commander in charge, chief pete arredondo.
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testing this wider net on both local officials, along with federal officials as well. that broad number is 400 officers on hand. and nobody really taking control. what are -- one of the first questions i had at uvalde, in the immediate aftermath was, what's is the chain of command in a situation like this? when you have federal officers there, and local officials as well, who is supposed to, in a situation like this, take charge? >> that is clear. it's unclear as to who the incident commander was, who was actually in charge in that hallway. typically, what will happen if someone who is the highest rank, or someone who it's in their jurisdiction, usually you will take the lead. but in a case where you may have a number of responding agencies that come to a hot scene, such as what they were at. what we all do is that we all do with human beings to, we just do what we've got to do in
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the moment, regardless of whether someone is in charge or not. we know that shots are being fired, we know that children are in the classroom, we know that they are unarmed and we make a decision. that is what we do. if it was not an organized leadership there. but i have been saying from the onset, right from the beginning of the shooting, chief pete arredondo is not going to be solely responsible in all of this. there are a number of agencies inside of that hallway, in addition you had your state police leader there. mcgraw. he was painting this picture from the beginning of everybody being a great hero. and all of the sudden he used terms like this was abject failure. yes, on everybody's part quite frankly. i think we have to get to a
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point where we don't -- you said something a few minutes ago that i wanted to address. when you read that report, because of the way this whole thing unfolded right from the beginning, from a misleading statement and flat out lies, it is hard for anybody to believe what is inside that report. is it totally true? is it partially true? are things still not being told to us? here's the problem, when you are a law enforcement official and when you hold a leadership position, the only truth that people can look for in finding out what's really happened is from you. people have to feel that you are trustworthy and that you are legitimate. and right now, in that community, that is very hard clearly for people still to accept. if you want to know the truth, as about as close as you're
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gonna get to it, look at that video. there is right there in front of your eyes. your eyes aren't lying to you. you don't have to be a professional law enforcement executives to realize that shots are being fired inside that classroom, men who are armed and equipped and supposedly trained and state certified did nothing. those border patrol officers, whoever decided that finally something has to be done, my hat is off to them. but those in that hallway, those that stood there and did nothing for that period of time, i will repeat it again, they need to turn their badges in. they should be terminated because that is not what they were trained to do. those are babies inside those classrooms, innocent people, innocent children. that's all they were. it breaks all of our hearts. this is unexplainable.
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i'm not going to attempt to try to explain it away, being a law enforcement official myself, formally. i think the general public can get a real good view of what took place. people who are the parents of those kids, they are not going to believe this report. they will believe some parts of it, but it's already being questioned. this started off wrong. >> when there was an abject failure from the get-go, from the jump, and the way in which they released information, there was -- oh no they're wasn't. the door was locked, oh, actually it was not. these officers were there, oh no they were not, who is the commander? we don't know. oh it's possibly chief pete arredondo? everything was wrong, it seemed. and then it was further corrected. let me read some experts for you, cedric, as we're walking through this. we have a team of folks that are going through this as well.
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from page 13 if this report, other responders failed to be sufficiently assertive. this goes to what you're talking about, cedric, by identifying the instant commander and offering their assistance or guidance or by assuming command of absence -- having expressly done so. in this sense, the entirety of law enforcement and its training, preparation and response shares systemic responsibility for many missed opportunities on that tragic day. my question to you, cedric, is this, in a situation like this, for those of us who don't know, how is it that one is identified as the incident commander or to identify the incident commander? if you are a federal officer who has arrived on the scene, and you're trying to figure out, okay, what is my responsibility here? what are we doing? where do we go next? >> well, in a situation such as this, we weren't in the hallway, we don't have audio in that hallway. but here's what i suspect happened. if you and i were responding to a school shooting at this very
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moment, you got there before i did, we are of the same rank. you're from one agency, i'm from a neighboring agency but we are the first to their, we are not going to decide who is in charge. we are going to say, let's go. because that is how training at the end of the day's, let's go. that's it. let's go. >> it shouldn't even matter? >> it shouldn't even matter. if you have an identifiable incident commander, that's great. if you do not, all of that experience in that hallway, all of that equipment, all the supposedly trained officers, you move. let's go. that's it. let's find this target, let's deflect the gunfire. if we have to go through a wall, through windows, through the roof, whatever it is that we have to do. we can't explain this to anybody. we just cannot. it is embarrassing. it is embarrassing to the other
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700,000 law enforcement officers who are out there at this very moment who would've done something very different. what they would have done is exactly what they were trying to do. that was just total fairly or. and for one law enforcement official to blame another law enforcement official, all you are doing is pointing blame. take responsibility. all the leadership that was their, all the agencies that were there. when the federal and the state shows up to a local scene, they are there to provide support. it is no doubt in my mind, if the state showed up to provide support to the locals, they will generally take their lead. but in a case such as this, you had an active hot shooter. at that point, everyone, you just move. let's go towards the gunfire. let's go towards it. whatever we encounter, when we encounter, that is what we are sworn to do.
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they are times that we certainly just have to put everything we got on the line. this was one of those times. and that was a failure. it is unfortunate, and hopefully we can learn from this. i mean, really learn from this because since 1999, since columbine, this has been the way that we deal with this. in theory we are supposed to operate that way. that is the go towards the gunfire. >> eric, let me bring you in. as you're taking this all, in the conversation we've been having, with cedric and i, just give me your reaction to what you've been hearing so far? >> first, we have to think of the families, and those who lost their children, who lost their spouses. it is horrifying to hear this report come out. this was a systemic failure, as we have heard. but it builds alongside a number of systemic failures.
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the systemic failure that happened outside of congress on january 6th, the systemic failure that allowed -- to shoot three people and walk through a crowd with a semi automatic weapon. the systemic failure in highland park, the systemic failure breaking trust with the community. look, whether we are talking about an individual being shot 60 times in the street of ohio, or the failure of law enforcement to rescue 19 children, we have to understand that those who lost children are looking for answers. all of us have to be responsible. it's not just the law enforcement, this is a national problem. it calls for all of us to step forward. >> what does that look like to you, eric? >> it looks like three specific things. we have to get control of the internet in this country and
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social media platforms. the department of homeland security released a bulletin, a national terrorism advisory system in early june. it told us to specific things. one, that extremists were actually praising at the shooting in uvalde and encouraging others to take part. and toby get control of social media platforms who are using these moments to make a profit, we are not going to find a way forward culturally. the second, law enforcement needs more training. there has to be stronger systems that seek to reduce these failures that are occurring, whether it is from unconscious prejudice or whether it is from the lack of uniform training in this country. it is time for us to take our work seriously. it's time for congress to act on gun reform, and police training, and reducing bias that is creating political violence. and mass shootings.
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it's being fed to young people on the internet. >> i want to leave you folks with this quote out of this report, cedric, by the way, and eric is going to stick with us. i will also speak with the texas congresswoman. this is from page nine of this report, i think if you are a parent who lost a child in this, and you are reading it, watching this video knowing about the abject failures of these 400 officers on hand, this is probably going to get a reaction. it is this. other than the attacker, the committee did not find any billions in the course of its investigation. there is no one who we can contribute malice or ill motives, instead, we found systemic failures. egregiously poor decision making. we recognize the impact of this tragedy is felt most profoundly by the people of uvalde in ways we cannot fully comprehend. we're gonna talk about this and a lot more coming out of this
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report as we're following this breaking news out of uvalde, texas. this 100 post page report is released by the texas house investigative committee looking into what happened, what went wrong in the response to the mastering at robb elementary school in uvalde. as i mentioned, these two are staying with me and the congresswoman is gonna join me from texas coming up. we'll be right back. join me from texas coming up we'll be right back. we'll be right back. cibinqo — fda approved. 100% steroid free. not an injection, cibinqo is a once-daily pill for adults who didn't respond to previous treatments. cibinqo can lower your ability not an injection, cibito fight infections,pill including tb. before and during treatment, your doctor should check for infections and do blood tests. tell your doctor if you've had hepatitis b or c, have flu-like symptoms, or are prone to infections. do not take with medicines that prevent blood clots. serious, sometimes fatal infections, lymphoma,
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did you see a ufo in that cloud? nope. run! ♪ ♪ [ droning sound ] breaking news out of uvalde texas. releasing this 100 plus-page report revealing what happened on the day of that mass shooting at robb elementary school. what went wrong really, learning 400 or so officers were on hand both at local and state federal officers. they all had responsibility for what went wrong. i want to talk through some of these details as we are getting more in the last few minutes or
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so as the team here is coming through this entire report. we want to bring in representative sheila jackson lee, the democrat from texas, as we talk about some of the stuff. congresswoman, thanks for joining us. i appreciate it. some of the details from this report are astounding, really shocking. i cannot imagine what it is like to be a parent of someone of a child who lost their lives that day. i want to read for you when i read for folks, as we went to break a little bit earlier. talking about who is responsible. this report says this, other than the attacker, the committee did not find any villains in the course of its investigations. there is no one to whom we can attribute malice or ill motives, instead we found systemic failures and agreed to sleep or decision-making. we recognize that the impact of this tragedy is felt most profoundly by the people of uvalde and ways we cannot fully
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comprehend. congresswoman, take me inside this part of this report. when i read it, what i am hearing is passing the buck, saying that yes, things went wrong, people did not act that should have. but they should not be held responsible. when in fact they stood outside the classroom of room 1:11 and 1:12, as 19 children and two teachers lost their lives. they held parents back from trying to get their children from trying to protect their children. i wonder how this is going to land with these parents? can you give me a reaction as we're hearing more details of this report, congresswoman? >> first of, all thank you for having me. this is a very difficult time for texans. it's a very difficult time for uvalde. i traveled to uvalde within the immediate days of that tragedy. i was there when parents were literally broken.
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i was at a church service. i heard the stories of the little girl whose spirit herself with blood, or the girl that led out. and so first, let me offer my concern and constant prayers for these families. but i realize that i am of the crowd that says that that is not enough. i am outraged. and clearly the effort by this committee was thorough in its investigation, but not throw in its action and its results. it speaks to me very clearly that a federal investigation, congressional hearings, which i would like to hold as the chair of the crime committee -- to bring to these parents the reality of what did not happen, and whose fault it was. we know how important law enforcement is an america. let's establish that. we know one of the many brave
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actions taken by law enforcement across america, decades of their service. let's focus on the reality. let's really listen to those minutes of no action and the gun firing continue. and so, in my book, it is clear even for police officers who you just had on, they to expect for their roles to protect and serve to be putting the lives of potential victims or potential persons to be heard over anything else. they did not act. one thing i want to say, i am saddened that the video came out and parents did not have the quiet time to be able to look at it in a quiet moment. that should not have happened. i believe in the first amendment, i believe in the -- getting a new story. i wish those parents, since i've met some of them, had had that opportunity. but now we have to say to them,
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someone will be held accountable for your baby's death! the report cannot stand as the final action. it can't at all. >> how does that happen though, congresswoman? another part of this report i want to read for you, it really stands out to me. the void of leadership could have contributed. could have contributed to the loss of life. as injured victims waited for an hour, over an hour, for help. the attacker continued to sporadically fire his weapons. i remember that press conference on day three, steve mcgraw stood there, talking about the timeline. he talked about how the majority of the shots came in the very beginnings of when the shooter into the classroom. they had full confidence that all of the children that were
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killed, the teacher that was killed, were killed in that time period. however, the timeline of the 9-1-1 calls did not back that up. you had children calling, i believe it was 12:01, 12:05. i don't remember those times specifically but every couple of minutes you had people calling from inside that classroom, children calling from inside the classroom, asking for help. and so when you talked to the parents of these victims, they wondered, would my child have survived? had these officers gone and quickly and acted? when you talk about responsibility, culpability, how does that happen? especially when you cannot even get, with all of these mass shootings that happen in this country, all the way back to columbine, you cannot even get the type of gun legislation in place, it seems. we've seen some on a federal level, we know that. senator chris murphy has worked hard on that, the biden administration signed that into law. that being said, how does that happen? you cannot ban all out assault
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rifles, you cannot even increase the age of someone who acquires the assault rifle in this country. >> the protect our kids act, i helped write it and it came out of the house, it included lifting of the age of buying an assault weapon and a number of other provisions regarding storage, regarding the issues that these parents have asked us to do. ammunitions ban, stuff like that. ending ghost guns. it did not make its way to the senate. i will tell you that we will be marking up and assault weapons ban this week. also eliminating the prohibition against manufacturers, gun manufacturers, being held liable. i think we will have some provisions as well. let me be clear, this report, all the well-intentioned, does not shine a bright light on texas. this is not a responsive report.
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it is a report that politically wants to dance around not charging your neighbors with default. and frankly, if you listen to whet the chief of the uvalde police department said, you will find absolute egregious misbehavior. this person did not tried the door, he didn't encourage anyone else to try the school doors, they were unlocked. he did not have a form of communication. he goes in without a form of communication. in the after effects, he tells testimony that we have heard publicly that he thought someone else was the commander at that time. and so, everything points to him. he was inside, and when i say points to him i mean points to him as at least the person that the other officers were looking to and they got no commands to do anything. we also had federal officers,
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many of their children were there, sadly, of course. we also saw a video of parents being knocked down, handcuffed, preventing them from getting in. they would have risked their lives to save their babies. this cannot be the final report. i believe a federal congressional investigation, and i believe that a federal investigation by the appointed u.s. attorney and or the department of justice. right now we have fact finders on the ground from the doj to look at police practices. i think route a point where these parents are going to have to see accountability. whether it is civil liability or whether it is criminal liability. i stand with him on that. >> congresswoman, sheila jackson lee, as always we appreciate your voice on this. thank you for joining us on this sunday afternoon. we'll have much more coming out of uvalde, texas, with this latest report released from the texas house investigative committee. it is revealing agree just details of police officers dropping the ball, not reacting
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breaking news about this new information into the uvalde school shooting, the texas house investigative committee is saying this nearly 400 law enforcement officials rushed to this mass shooting. systemic failures created this chaotic scene that lasted more than an hour. the gunman took 20 -- was confronted and killed. let's bring in missile thompson. talk us through what more we're learning from this report. how folks are on the ground as well are reacting. >> yasmin, you probably see a lot going on behind, me those are journalists waiting to get in for the press conference to hear what this committee is going to have to say publicly about this report. i've been reading through it
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over the past half hour or so as it's come out. a few things that sticks out to me,, as we've been talking about, more than 300 officers responded to this scene. these were officers from nearly two dozen different agencies. federal state and a ton of different local agencies that showed up at the same time. the sheer number of officers that were there, they were in the vicinity as all of this was taking place. we are also learning that after those initial officers were fired on by the shooter, and they retreated their began an instance of two separate responses happening. one on the south side of the school, one on the north side of the school. there was about 73 minutes within there that was unclear who exactly was in charge on the scene and what exactly was going on. this report actually also says that while chief pete arredondo may have been the commanding officer, there was no way he could have commanded this scene
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from inside the school. and someone else should have approached him about taking that over, or attempted to take over command that was really getting a whole view of everything that was going on from the 9-1-1 calls to what was happening in the school. and what have you. a couple of other really startling things i'm seeing in this report, one, classroom 111 had a faulty lock. people knew it was difficult to lock. and yet there was no work order that had been put in to correct that issue in the weeks leading up to this incident. the other thing that is mentioned in the report, there was no announcement over the intercom that announced to everyone in the school that they needed to go into lockdown. i understand that there was an app that the school may have been using to inform people that there was a situation going on, but i've got to tell you, yasmin, as a former texas public school teacher who did these lockdowns myself, we always knew what was happening based on what happened over the intercom. we knew to a mediately lock it
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down, hold in place as we were doing those drills. and so that is pretty startling information that we are seeing coming out of this. you talked about the mood on the ground here, families were coming -- families of the victims that were coming through all morning to pick up coffees of that report, they are now in a meeting with the committee members to discuss it privately before the committee speaks publicly. we spoke with the grandfather of leyla salazar, one of the victims killed in this shooting, about his reaction to getting at this report as he was picking it up. i want to play some of what he shared with us. take a listen. >> if i was these officers, i would leave town. they don't deserve to be here. this report doesn't mean anything to me. because what happened has already happened. is there any change? is anybody fired? is the chief still being paid?
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what is going on? nobody else got answers for this! >> as you have mentioned, yasmin, it feels like the blame is sort of being spread out amongst all of these agencies. i think what a lot of folks here in the community aren't seeing is the accountability piece. okay, now we have a better understanding of the facts. we have a better understanding of where things went wrong. what does that mean going forward? what happens next? yasmin? >> right. yes. exactly right. i can only imagine what we just heard from what you just played there, reverberated throughout the entire community, not even necessarily believing this report. because nobody has been held accountable. priscilla thompson, think you. i appreciated. we will bring in julián castro. thanks for joining us on this. you and i were on together on
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the ground for a bunch of days after this horrible mass shooting in robb elementary. we saw how the community was reacting then,, how the community is reacting now. you called for a federal investigation. we are getting this 100 page report from the texas report investigative committee. what do you make of what we're hearing so far? >> yasmin, i mean, what we heard then a few weeks ago, while we are on the ground, was how in the world could this have happened? and in the sports we've been getting, more clarity -- today's report gives the most clarity about what actually happened that day. and it labels this systemic failure. i think that's probably the best way to describe it. every single level there was failure. from the 376 officers who
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responded, the fact that there was a void of leadership that nobody really stepped up. federal and state law enforcement, and there was about 240 state and federal law enforcements there along with a local law enforcements that were better trained for these kinds of incidents. they also did not step up. the video that shows officers actually retreating, running away when they're active shooter training said they should be doing the exact opposite thing. the report points out that there was a specific failure to adhere to that active shooter training. and, maybe most damning it says that they prioritized their own safety and their own lives over the lives of innocent victims. >> what happens now then? >> i think that's the open question. we're getting more clarity, but as you pointed out, where is
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the accountability? there really hasn't been any accountability. there hasn't been any accountability at the state level, under the at -- biden ministration. nothing at the local level, we -- councilman elected two or three weeks before, stepped down. but he did that of his own volition. there hasn't been accountability with -- that's still what's missing here. that's the big question. if we're talking about how these families come to some sort of peace and healing in the future, in this town there's less than 20,000 people in it. a very close knit community. there's gotta be some accountability. >> we just heard from congresswoman sheila jackson lee. there needs to be a federal investigation, the doj needs to get involved.
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especially as we read this report, it's skirting around accountability. yes there was an abject failure of a system. but there was really no criminal culpability, it seems, happening. the only person who had criminal intent in this report was as the report puts it the shooter. if you're a parent reading this report, or who was there held back from saving the life of your child, thinking that as these police officers were outside for an hour and 20 minutes, your life into your child could be saved, you're probably not agree with that statement. is it time for a federal investigation as the congresswoman has called for? >> it absolutely is. also because there was a number of federal officers that were there. so there needs to be a federal investigation along with the other ones as well, and hopefully that is going to get underway soon. >> gun laws? gun legislation? i mean, listen, we saw white house taking place in washington.
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how difficult it was for chris murphy of connecticut to spearhead the legislation that we now see in place. the change to some gun laws when it comes to background checks. but there really has been no change when it comes to increasing at the age of people that can acquire an ar style weapons. what do you make of that? can it have been? on a federal level? >> you've put your finger on. it i'm sure you've heard this when you are down on the ground in uvalde. the number one thing that folks were asking for, whether they were conservative, they were progressive, they were saying, how in the world had an 18 year old, right after his birthday get a hold of these weapons? this report points out, not only that, but they think this young man had not even fired a weapon before this incident. and yet, he had these weapons of war. who was able to get a hold of them. no law has changed. you can't go out there and buy cigarettes, or beer, and texas
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until your 21. but you can buy an assault weapon. and greg abbott has not called a special session, the legislature has not talked about changing this. the federal level, it was not included in that package. that is a huge failure so far in the eyes of a lot of people. and unfortunately it seems like it takes another one of these terrible incidents to shock elected officials and the public to rouse folks to put up a notch energy to get advancements on legislation. i hope we don't have to wait for another one of these incidents. but, given the failure to put these laws in place, i think it is very likely that we are going to continue to see these types of incidents at the rate that we've been going. >> gosh, i hope not. that argument, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a weapon are good guys with weapons. well, there was one bad guy with a weapon and there was almost 400 quote unquote good guys with weapons who knew how to fire them.
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this guy, we are finding out, did not. and yet it did not stop him for an hour and 20 minutes. julián castro, thank you so much. i know you'll be hosting american voices tonight at 6 pm right here on msnbc. you'll be following the story very closely. we appreciate that. >> but to be with. you >> will be right back. >> but to be with. you >> will be right back. >> tech: need to get your windshield fixed? safelite makes it easy. >> tech vo: you can schedule in just a few clicks. >> tech: that's service on your time. schedule now. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ and tonight's winning numbers are 18, 18 55, 39, 71, and 43 we won! yes!
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we are still following the breaking news out of uvalde texas. 100 or so page report released by the house of texas investigative committee there, looking into what took place, the failures of the response to the mass shooting. at robb elementary school. we will continue to follow this, but we also want to talk about the rip publicans pushing back on president trump's unfounded 2020 election claims of fraud, saying instead the election was lost but not stolen. eight prominent conservatives, including lawyers and former judges examined 64 court cases
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in which trump and his allies challenge the election and determined that team trump failed to produce substantive evidence to back their claims to 72-page report saying this, there is absolutely no evidence of fraud in the 2020 presidential election on the magnitude necessary to shift the result in any state, let alone the nation as a whole. joining us now is former missouri gop senator, john davenport. thanks so much for joining us, senator. talk to me first about why you felt it was important to sign on to this effort. >> this is called the big lie, the idea that the election was stolen by which that that's all it were. just a lie because maybe we could put up with death, but really it's an attack on the constitution itself. when 30% of the people of our
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country believe that the election was stolen, that american democracy does not work doug, the president is illegitimate. the court system doesn't work, we have a real problem in america and we thought that it was important to confront that. >> i want to read for you a piece of this report for folks to hear and have you react to it. it says this. we urge our fellow conservatives to cease obsessing over the results of the 2020 election, and offer ideas that offer a positive vision for overcoming greater peace and liberty to the nation. i guess my first question on this is is that possible, considering the current climate? especially as you have been
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investigating what took place with january 6th, and you have the possibility of the former president running for election once again in 2024? >> well considering the situation in my state of missouri in this coming senate election, we have a number of candidates who are running for the senate and what is interesting about it all, the threatening, is the violence in the campaigning. i mean one of the candidates suggested that his followers take up arms and attack people who disagree with him. then there are two different candidates who have ar-15s in their hands and there is another one who has a blowtorch and says he's going to take a blowtorch to washington. there's another one who builds
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himself a human hand grenade and says pull out the pen and what will me under the floor of the senate. people don't believe that our constitutional system the 30% believe the election was rigged, and that the government is illegitimate. the next step for a lot of people's violence, and that's what happened on january 6th, and that really it is the tone of the senate race in missouri and we are confronting that. there's an independent candidate named john would. he is running on basically a unity platform. we've got a hold the country together. we have to stand up for the constitution, and john wood is a republican. he's a centrist and he is a person who wants to try to bring people together rather than just build on all the rage that now is quite a thing in american politics. >> former senator john danforth,
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i hope you come back and speak with me, because it's fascinating to hear that your part of this especially as we march towards the mid term and the possibility of the former president running for president once again. i think this conversation will come up, so if you would, please join us again soon. thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> up next, everybody, more breaking details from that texas house committee report on the uvalde school shooting. we will be right back.
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systemic failures. that is when the damning report by texas house investigative committee is saying about the response the uvalde school shooting. i want to bring back with us cedric alexander. we don't have a lot of time together as we close up on these last few hours. a lot of things have been revealed over the last two hours with this report. i want to kind of hear your final thoughts on it all, cedric, but as you provide that to us, i want to leave you with this as a part of the report. the gunman fired approximately 142 rounds inside the building. it is almost certain that 100 shots came before any officer entered. that according to this report, cedric. >> well, the facts are with the
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facts are. if that truly is the case, then it just further, i think, is concerning and troubling for all of us. let me say this in closing. not too long ago you had on congresswoman jackson-lee, and she made a recommendation that i hope wholeheartedly that it happens. there needs to be a federal investigation in terms of what occurred that day. an investigation coming from the justice department where independent investigators that had nothing to do with that they can go in and make determinations. there needs to be people held responsible here. every conceivable level. -- to return to work as police officers after behaving the way they behaved on that particular day. whether there was leadership involved or not, i don't care. when we get there, we have a responsibility to go to that gunfire. there is no exception. it is failure all the way.
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it needs to be -- there needs to be accountability. third should not be just a report that sits on a shelf. people there that they need to be held accountable. here again in closing, the men and women who arrived there serving every day, do not let this be a reflection on the work that police do out every day across this country or at local state, federal levels. there are courageous men and women who would have done something very different that day. >> cedric alexander, thank you for being with me over the last few hours. i appreciate it. a quick programming tonight. you can tune in for a special edition of weekend nightly news focused on gun violence over one night in america. four separate teams have been embedded across the country overnight. to witness firsthand the effects of gun violence crime and consequences. when night in america airs tonight only on nbc at nightly news. that wraps it up for me,
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everybody. i'm yasmin vossoughian, and i'll be in the chair tomorrow. you can catch me from 10 to 12 noon and i will be and back in the chair saturday and sunday next weekend. simone states right now. unda >> good evening i'm michael steele in for simone sanders. breaking news out of uvalde texas. a new report just released a short time ago says nearly 400 officers rushed to rob elementary school the day of the mass shooting but systemic failures created chaotic scenes that delayed the response. 19 children and two to -- two teachers were killed. we have an update from uvalde. 187 minutes. that is how long it took president trump to call off the violent mob storm in the capital. it's the focus of thursday's primetime hearing of the day with the committee and learning new details about the testimony about trump's failure to act during those three hours of terror. plus, the latest post-roe
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