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tv   The Mehdi Hasan Show  MSNBC  July 18, 2022 1:00am-2:00am PDT

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as if the neon lights turn up along the desert casinos had picked up a layer of grief. welcome to a special two-hour edition ahead, systemic failures and egregious decision making we have the breaking details of a new preliminary report into the uvalde school massacre. plus, conservative supreme court justices are erasing the line that separates church and state in america. then, bernie sanders on the attack. who he's accusing of sabotaging the president's agenda. i'm ayman mohyeldin. let's get started. breaking news tonight. the most exhaust tive report yet
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on the may 24th mass shooting inside a uvalde texas elementary school, spread blame across every law enforcement agency responding to the attack, faulting local police for mistakes, and more experienced agencies for failing to take charge. a texas house investigative committee issued a preliminary report detailing what it described as a systemic failure by authorities during the shooting at rob elementary that left 21 dead. one of the stunning details in this preliminary report is the committee's conclusion that law enforcement responders failed to adhere to their own active shooter training and failed to prioritize saving the lives of innocent victims over their own safety. 376 officers, yes, you heard that correctly, 376 officers from local, state, and federal levels, rushed to robb elementary during the shooting. but as we saw in that new
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surveillance video that was released this week, police still waited 77 minutes, that's more than an entire hour, before confronting the gunman. the preliminary report says quote the void of leadership could have contributed to the loss of life as injured victims waited over an hour for help. and the attacker continued to sporadically fire his weapon. here's the chairman of the investigative committee during a press conference earlier tonight. >> the officers who knew or should have known that this was an active shooter situation by their training, experience, should have done more. there was chaos on the scene. and certainly, certainly, with the chaos, people should have asked, why is there not an incident commander, why is there not an overall commander outside the building helping try to organize that. there was a lack of effective overall command that day. >> the uvalde mayor don mclaugh lin spoke to the press this past hour announce thakt city is
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conducting an investigation into the police response. >> the city of uvalde will be conducting an internal investigation regarding our police department's aks and our policies and procedures. the city has placed the lieutenant on absentee leave, the acting chief on the day of the shooting. >> let's go to our panel for reaction on all of these developments. joining me is jim cavanaugh, msnbc terrorism contributor and retired atf special agent in charge. and mark claxton, retired nypd detective and director of the black enforcement alliance. gentlemen, it's great to have both of you with us. jim, you know, we knew it was going to be bad, we didn't imagine it would be this bad. the report that came out today is worse than i think most of us have anticipated. your reaction to this preliminary report. >> well, i think you're right, it's good to see you by the way, yes, it's terrible, it's a
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terrible report, it indicts the system and law enforcement and certainly school leaders for not having doors locked and sloppy security, as many people to blame and i think we have to be careful because some of the stuff in the report is almost like sand in our eyes and chaff and we don't get to the real meat of the matter, that kind of hit with the highlights and i like to describe it like this. look, the first three officers, we see that on the video, they go down the hall, they get wounded, they get shot and they retreat. you can't blame them for retreating. but the next three officers that were in the hall at that moment should have went in and charged in, the door was not locked, and then if that didn't happen, which it did, because only the first three went and retreated, nobody else went, that's when the command, which should have been established right outside the door of the school, right on the outside, the incident commander, sergeants, lieutenants from the state police, the border patrol,
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agents in charge from the federal agencies, you know, done this many times, i'm sure mark has too, but in a shooting, bombing, you meet outfront and establish decision making because that's the job of the leaders, that wasn't done, so initially, no direction was needed, no leadership was needed initially, because it is all built into the training, and that's to go right in in that trangele stack and kill the active killer. they were repelled and they didn't launch another attack. they should. have without anybody telling them to. and if that failed, then the leadership, which should have been right outside the door, sergeants, lieutenants, agents in charge, they should have said more agents, cops over here, you go in or get around the killer and let's get a plan and go kill him and that's the biggest failure. so i would just say that you know, all of these 350 cops there, all of them had hand sanitizer there was radios
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failed, a lot of that is chaff, because the key failures are the ones that i just described and if those had been done correctly then, you know, more kids would have been alive. >> fair enough. valid point. mark, your initial thoughts on the report before we dig into it a little bit more? >> i've got to agree jim on so many points and from a tactical standpoint, the report really could have been 150 pages long if they devoted themselves strictly to the tactics and the poor tactics that obviously were in play here. but i think summing up the report on another level, because the tactics really is a lot of inside baseball, and those of us in law enforcement have that kinds of experience and exposure, have a deeper appreciation for good tactics, realizing that saves lives but aside from, that i think the main take-away from the report which is a lot of obvious and known facts, but anyway, it is that the law enforcement
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responders there from many different agencies and entities failed miserably and that failure may have resulted in additional loss of life. so whereas the responsibility of the professional law enforcement is to protect and preserve human life, in this particular instance, the actions or their inactions may have actually cost life, and i think we can all agree that, and jim will back up on this, the law enforcement throughout the nation, on all levels, state, local, federal, train, train, train, and go through the motions to deal with active shooters on a daily basis. so there's no question about whether or not they were equipped and resourced to take the appropriate action and save lives. they just failed to do so. and what makes it especially disturbing is that you had many different agencies there. so even if there was a failure
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on perhaps the local agency to act appropriately, you would hope that maybe the state or one of the federal authorities would take command and take lead. and you establish your command by being assert tive and you start to direct and man your locations, there, et cetera. so, and i think what's especially insulting and disturbing for families who lost loved ones this is just another case of politicians tending to lionize law enforcement and insulate them and immunize them, if you will, from culpability. there's no such thing is this is an operational failure. everything went wrong. but there's not a person or people who you can point directly to and hold them fully accountable. and that's what is missing from the report, is what is the next action about holding the people accountable. and specifically, how do you plan on holding those people who failed accountable.
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>> i was going to say, i remember early on the governor of texas greg abbott said this could have been a lot worse had the police not responded the way they did. i can't imagine it being any worse now that we've gotten these reports and learned about what was happening in those critical moments. gentlemen, we're going to continue this conversation later on, jim cavanaugh, mark claxton, gentlemen, thank you both very much for your insights. still ahead, the supreme court's conservative majority is destroying the separation between church and state. we will tell you about that in just a second. will tell you abn just a second.
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in june, 1979, jerry falwell sr, a flamboyant baptist minister announced his intentions to build one of the most powerful political coalitions in history, the moral majority is not only instrumental to the election of ronald reagan it formed a bond between the republican party and christian fundamentalist groups that persist to this day and consider how many call for their christian beliefs to serve as a bedrock of their primaries, and matriano claimed that the
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separation of church and state is a myth. and boebert called the separation of church and state junk. and this comes from a sitting member of congress. believes by fringe extremists are now held by people who hold positions of power inside the u.s. government and arguably nowhere has been more impacted by this ongoing bond between christian fundamentalists and conservatives than the supreme court. just this term, the court's conservative majority ruled that state programs providing money for public school tuition cannot exclude religious schools. now, the conservative majority backed the high school football coach suspended by a public school district for leading christian pairs with players on the field. christian prayers with players on the field. and this is the most important point for us to make here. the influence on christian
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extremist on the u.s. supreme court goes beyond a religious bent, it is the reason that roe v. wade was overturned, the official moral majority movement was disbanded in the late '80s but it is clear that we are now and will be forever changed as a nation because of the religious beliefs of the few. joining me now is lawrence tribe a professor of harvard law school and co-author of ending the power of impeachment, great to have you back on the show, and talk to me from a lowell point of view how you believe conservatives have eroded the wall separating church and state in america. >> thank you for having me on, thank you so much for recognizing that this fundamental issue, fundamental to the very nature of our republic, which is not supposed to be a theocracy, but it is supposed to be a secular republic in the form of government, thank you for
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recognizing that this issue is present, not only in the obvious cases, like cases where a public football coach surrounded by players who are pressured to join him in prayer, raise an issue about separation of church and state, not just in cases where public money is spent on religious schools, but cases where our freedom, our liberty, our bodily integrity is involved. specifically the overruling of roe v. wade. when the court in the majority of opinion by justice alito said that this case is different from all others, you don't have to worry about same-sex marriage, you don't have to worry about contraception, you don't have to worry about sexual intimacy, because in this case, we are protecting the life of an unborn
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child from the moment of conception, the court basically says, there's a unique soul, they didn't use those words, but that's the only word to understand this decision. now, there are many religions that teach that a human soul is created at conception. but there is no secular basis to draw that line. some religions have a very different view. they say that until a much later point in pregnancy, all you have is potential life, and of course, there is potential life, that's true even of the unfertilized ovum, but there are some religions, some orthodox jews going to court saying our religion teaches you must consider the health of the mother over the fetus. when you have dispute of a religious kind, the solution is not for the state to take sides, not for the states to say, as
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the supreme court said some states may choose to say, that we're going to go with the christian point of view or certain evangelicals or catholics but the solution is to leave the choice to the individual, and her family, her doctor. the court has crossed that line and that's very dangerous. >> why aren't the conservative justices, professor, so willing, why are the conservative justices so willing to go along with this, do you think, is it because of their own religious ideologies? >> i can't prevent to know what makes them tick internally but this is their agenda in the beginning, and amy coney barrett a member of a particular religious group says the woman is supposed to do what her husband wants hadar to do has from the very beginning said that roe v. wade is an abomination. justices like kavanaugh and
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gorsuch who are new on the court and alito and thomas have been there for a long time, have had this as part of their political agenda, to blend religion and politics. and as the descending justices -- dissenting justices said, it is very dangerous that a country of 300 million with over 100 religions, the only way we can have civil peace is to avoid having the government endorse any particular religious view. and until a few days ago, that was the position of the supreme court. there was a test, the test that said that anyone is forced to adopt a religion, the government should not put its weight behind a religious view, shouldn't endorse that view, and justice gorsuch writing for the majority in one of the cases that the court decided, specifically the case involving coach kennedy, said we're no longer going to look at whether the government
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is putting its weight behind a certain religion. unless we can find coercion. and then he basically presented a pretty phony picture of the facts, justice sotomayor in her dissent showed a picture of the pressure on the football players. >> he was not alone at the 50 yard line, as was widely believed when you look at the image. where do you think this may lead us? i mean you touched on this in the concurrence that was issued in the roe case that ultimately overturned roe v. wade and the dobbs case i should note and when you listen to people like ted cruz whoa say the supreme court made the wrong decision about same-sex marriage, where do you see this going next? >> well, i'm afraid it's not just ted cruz. but it was the justices themselves, several of them who said that they don't think
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oegergefeld, the same-sex case should be respected as precedent. justice thomas has attacked obergfeld and cases in texas involve same-sexing same-sex intimacy, i haven't heard him attack intimacy, but it is all part of the same fabric, when a certain kind of christian believer says you're not supposed to act in a certain way, the people who uphold that belief can get states on their side to impose coercion. and when you have people imposing their beliefs coercively, we're in trouble. one of the things that justice kavanaugh and justice thomas and some of the other justices did in particular justice alito in the majority opinion in dobbs, he cites sort of robert hale in
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support of his view, robert hale was a 17th century thinker who believed that women should be burned as witches, i'm not saying that this court will go that far but a court who treats that as part of the original meaning of the constitution and basically trashes the wall between church and state and so important to jefferson and madison is a court that can lead us to theer thee cratic tierney and that's the direction we're headed unless we do about it. >> and state legislators trying to limit personal chase. thank you. >> thank you. still ahead, the major birth control break through that might be on the horizon for americans, congresswoman barbara lee joins us to discuss that and more next. a lee joins
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us to discuss that and more next
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people like manchin, kyrsten sinema, to a lesser degree, who are intentionally sabotaging the president's agenda, what the american people want, what a majority of us in the democratic caucus want, nothing new about this, and the problem was that we continue to talk to manchin like he was serious. he was not. this is a guy who is a major recipient of fossil fuel money and received campaign contributions from 25 republican billionaires. >> that was senator bernie sanders, not holding back any punches just days after senator joe manchin tanked two of the democrats most important priorities, new climate spending and tax hikes on the rich. and in response president biden said we take quote strong executive action to address
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climate change and urged democrats to pass legislation to lower health care costs which manchin claims he still supporting. i'm joining by democratic congressman barbara lee of california. thanks for taking time for us this morning. frustrations in your party are boiling over after joe manchin pulled the plug on climate change legislation. your colleague house budget committee chairman john yarmouth says we're all going to die and others have said single handedly is torpedoing civilization, your reaction as to what joe manchin has done here. >> sure. thank you very much. nice to be with you this evening. my reaction, first of all, is to contain myself in terms of how i really feel. i am totally disappointed. because so many times he has said that he would work with the president and with the democrats, to negotiate a refined, reduced, bill, on
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climate, on the issues that we had in our build back better bill, which directly impact inflation, and the cost of living for people. he said that he would support in many ways some of the provisions and repair them, but when the time comes, that doesn't happen, so a couple of things, i think the president needs to act, and he needs to act boldly, immediately, i mean this is a climate emergency and the president can move forward within his power to do it, what he can dox and secondly, we have to remember, elections have consequences, we've got to vote, in november, and why do we vote? one reason so that we can have at least two more senators who can help us with a carve-out either in the filibuster, because so much is at stake, and voting rights is at stake, and the climate is at stake, we have the right to reproductive
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freedom is at stake, and to have democrats, holding up measures that affect our democracy and that people's personal liberties and freedom is unacceptable so we have mo move forward and understand why we must vote in november and that is so we can have the carve-out in the filibuster which i think should happen, and i'm really disappointed that senator manchin keeps going back on his word, but i think we have a realistic view now of where he is, and so i think the president has got to act, and act immediately. because this is a crisis. it's a climate crisis. it's an emergency. and we see this in my state of california, with wildfires, we see this with hurricanes, we see this all over the world. >> i was going to say, how does that saying go, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me but i guess with joe manchin he keeps fooling democrats and they keep falling for it and you have to wonder
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how many times they will have him pretend to be a good faith negotiator on these issues. >> we're trying to get a deal. we're trying to do something for the people. >> fair enough. grade. finish your thought. i didn't want to interrupt you. i was just saying fair enough. >> we're trying to get a deal. we're trying to move this forward, because people deserve democrats to be on their side. we made a lot of promises during the campaign and we're going to deliver and that's what we've been fighting or and i'm not going to give up and i don't think anyone of us are going to give up and i think we have to figure out ways in the meantime to circle the wagons and do the job we're elected to do and make sure the president comes forward with the bold actions on climate. >> so let me ask you about elections, since you brought them up. we're about four months away from the midterms. your colleague jim himes says the democratic main talking
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point on abortion rights, elect more democrats in order to push the senate to act as you suggested there with overriding the filibuster, is only making voters a little bit frustrated. what do you say to those democratic voters who are frustrated with the way democrats are governing at the moment? >> i'm going to say to democratic voters, i'm frustrated, also. and i feel the angst and the anxiety and the pain. we're in it each and every day in the trenches but i'm not going to give up. and i understand and i know very well what representation means, and it matters. and believe you me, you do not want to see a republican house and senate which then will move forward as mitch mcconnell said and establish a national abortion rights ban. you don't want a senate that is going to take, begin to move forward in a more escalated fashion to take away our voting rights. you don't want to see a senate who is going to do everything to take away our freedoms that we
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still have and our democracy and so there are issues right now that are very fundamental to voting and what we're seeing now is a move toward autocracy, an autocracy in this country, the erosion of our democratic rights, and that's enough for me to encourage people, as hard as it is to say, you know, we have an agenda that's going to address inflation, which we do, reduce the cost of living, which we do, all of this is right now, in build back better, that we move forward in the house, and passed, and so we have to really educate the public about what we have done, what we will do, and what we are doing, and incorporated in all of that is the fragile nature of our democracy so we can't allow the trump republicans to take over and move forward to dismantle what's left of our democratic form of government. that's enough for me to fight hard to get people registered to
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the polls, and to vote for democrats who are going to stand for the people. >> let me ask you really quickly, almost out of time and i apologize for that, but we have about 30 seconds left, just you called for over-the-counter birth control pills to be made available in the u.s., as they are really in most of the rest of the world, tell me a little bit more about that, and if there is any progress on that. >> sure. you know, the dobbs decision, all of these court decisions really have highlighted so many of the gaps in our health care system. right now, people, especially black and brown people, low income people, they don't have health care, they don't have access to health care which means they don't have access to a doctor, which means they don't have access, they don't have access to prescriptions, so that they can take that prescription to the drug store to get birth control pills and we see the republicans now trying to ask what's next, the erosion and trying to dismantle what the
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supreme court, access to birth control so we're trying to make sure, you read a lert, a letter, 50-some wrote a letter, and over-the-counter birth control, we know some companies are in the process of trying to present that to the fda and we want you to look at how you can expedite this, but of course, we want to make sure they're safe. so we are pushing very hard, the fda respondent and saying they understand the health implications over-the-counter birth control pills and they have to have it because believe you me, they are trying to take away access of birth control pills and contraception and family planning and trying to criminalize who are exercising their reproductive freedom, they are trying to establish a system where people are spying on each other through the vigilantly kind of aspects of what they're doing in all of these court decisions, and so we're in a very critical point now where
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we're in a state of emergency, i believe, and so finally, we have asked for the declaration of the national public health emergency, because that is where we are in terms of reproductive freedom and justice in this country and in terms of our personal liberties. >> you know, congressman barbara lee, thank you for joining us tonight, i greatly appreciate it as always. still ahead, my conversation with the spokesperson for saudi arabia's embassy in washington, d.c., his reaction to president biden's trip abroad. next. t biden's trip abroad. next
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president biden is back on u.s. soil after his first presidential trip to the middle east and it seems he has little to show for his troubles, president biden received zero concrete commitments from saudi arabia on oil production and he made no significant progress toward an israeli-palestinian solution. i spoke about this earlier with
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the spokesperson for the embassy of saudi arabia in washington, d.c. >> thank you so much for joining us. i know it has been a busy couple of days for you. i'd like to start first with the meeting, the images that we saw, and then we can talk about the substance of what came out. president biden on friday met with the crown prince. he said he spoke about the killing of jamal khashoggi, what can you tell us about how that meeting went and did the crown prince push back on the president when he raised khashoggi's murder. >> well, first of all, let me say that the decision by president biden to visit saudi arabia on his first trip to the region is a testament to the strength and the importance of the relationship. this is a long-standing relationship that has served the national security interests of both countries. but i also think that it has been good for the region and the international community more broadly. now, obviously, i think that the
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meeting went very well, it was very cordial, they discussed a lot of issues with common concern and common interest and the issue of the murder of mr. khashoggi did come up, we have been saying for the past three years that the murder of mr. khashoggi was a heinous crime, an affront to our laws and our values and the people behind it were arrested and prosecute and held accountable and we took measures to make sure that something like this never happens again, and if you look at the history, you will find that this is simply not how we do things. it's not who we are. >> a lot has been made, sir, about what the u.s. was trying to get out of this trip, whether it's oil prices, or various bilateral cooperation agreements. i want to know what the saudi government wanted from president biden's trip, what does the saudi government want from the u.s. and did you get it with this visit? >> right, so any time the
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president visits saudi arabia, i mean we consider that to be a success, and as i said, i think that's a testament to the durability and the strength of the relationship. the relationship in many ways is multidimensional, it has a political component, it has a military component, an economic component, all of these issues were discussed during the meeting and not only, that i think the meeting, the visit in some ways has set the stage for the next 80 years of relations, so there's a number of challenges that we both in the united states as well as saudi arabia have, but also the broader international community face, i'm talking about climate change, cybersecurity, food security and all of these elements were discussed and kind of set the stage for the next 80 years and concluding by i believe 18 different agreements that will reinforce cooperation in terms of cybersecurity, and energy, and food security as well as health care in terms of,
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you know, preventing future pandemics. >> i'm sure you saw before president biden left for his trip, he wrote in the "washington post," that his aim was to reorient but not rupture relations with saudi arabia. do you think this trip has done that? did you agree with that assessment this this was not about, you know, repurposing the trip but reorienting the relationship? >> i mean if you read the joint communique that was issued yesterday after the bilateral meetings that president biden had with both the custodian as well as his royal highness see that the areas of agreements, the common interests, the common concerns that we have, is that it is a long list, and we need to an extent, our policies broadly align on a number of issues, finding resolutions to some of the political crisis
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across the region primarily yemen and we're working closely there and we're closer than we were a few months ago, and working closely to resolve that conflict and working against isis, militant groups and others and having a conversation about the importance of maintaining stable economic markets so all of these issues were on the table, all of them were discussed and reinforced and i think we're happy with that. >> you bring up the subject of yemen and this trip resulted in an agreement by the saudis to commit to extending and strengthening the u.n. mediated cease-fire. what does that exactly mean? the people of yemen we can all agree are still suffering even under this cease-fire. there's been a blockade on the country of yemen. i know that saudi arabia has been attacked by missiles coming out of yemen. did the u.s. get a commitment from the saudis about lifting the blockade, and getting food
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aid into yemen? and did you get something in exchange for the americans about your security concerns from yemen? >> there is no blockade. saudi arabia is the biggest provider of humanitarian aid to yemen going over back over the course of this crisis, we have contributed $19 billion in humanitarian assistance, food, medicine assistance, to internally displaced people, assistance to the central bank, and we are beginning to build hospitals, schools, and so i'm not sure how this blockade story or narrative has, you know, has spread, but it certainly is not the case. saudi arabia in fact is doing everything they can to restore peace and stability to yemen and we are working very closely not just with the united nations, we're working very closely with the united states as well, we have been doing this for a number of years, and i think we are closer now than we were three months ago, because we do have this ongoing truce. and there's also leadership change, you have this leadership
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council now that is represented, representative of variety segments, and agents of yemen and we believe these are important steps in the right direction. >> what about your security concerns coming out of yemen? you obviously, saudi arabia has been hit in the past, do you have any assurances from the u.s. that it is going to provide for you defensive capabilities, is it going to sell you offensive capabilities? >> well, if you read the communique, if you listen to president biden's speech today, looking at his commitment to the security of saudi arabia and the broader region very clear, obviously military security component of this relationship has been part of the relationship going back decades. we will continue to talk with our u.s. partners. and we have no higher priority inside saudi arabia than protecting the safety of our people and of our territory and we will do whatever it takes to make sure that that's possible.
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>> thank you so much, greatly appreciate your time this evening. >> thank you. it's been my pleasure. and coming up, i'll speak about president biden's trip with a woman whose brother is serving a 20-year prison sentence in saudi arabia. a 20-yn sentence in saudi arabia
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to promote human rights and
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the value enshrined in the u.n. charter, foundational freedom, foundational to who we are as americans. >> that was president biden on saturday, at the gcc plus three summit in saudi arabia shall the final stop on his middle east trip. biden has been criticized for traveling to saudi arabia and meeting with crown prince mohammed bin salman and one of those critics is the saudi activist, whose brother is serving 20 years in a saudi prison for what she says are trumped up charges. thanks for making time us with. let's start with the story and what is happening to your brother and what can you tell us about what has happened to him and what has happened to him since his arrest? >> first of all, thanks for having me. my brother is an aid worker for the red cross. he was detained more than four years ago from the office where
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he worked without a warrant and disappeared two years ever since and after two years of being held, he was allowed a one minute call, and after that, he went into a year of disappearance, all of that time, he was held without a single charge. so after three years of disappearance, being held in communicado in saudi confinement without allowing any communication to us or access to legal counsel, he was brought to a secret trial and got sentenced to 20 years in prison, by a 20 year travel ban and all presented in the court, with pages and pages of satirical tweets. and during his disappearance, we found out he had sleep deprivation and fainting and electric shocks and he was admitted to the intensive care unit fighting for his life and they broke his hand and smashed
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his fingers saying that was the hand he tweeted. with and he was almost losing his life as a result of that torture. >> sorry, go ahead. >> yes, last time we heard anything about my brother was almost a year ago, after the appeal hearing. he got disappeared again. all requests for our visits and calls are denied completely even though the torture was brought up in the court and vis im. the signs of torture were vis niblt court. the judges have ignored it completely. >> you have described a very disturbing and very harrowing account your brother had to endure just for tweeting. do you know, has he been brought up in even the meetings, as well as this summit between the president and the crown prince? >> the president, the biden administration are fully aware of my brother's case, and my hope that they brought up my
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brother's case. but it's not just bringing up the case, he's been disappeared now for years after years. we want him to be released. we want him to be able to, we want to be able to communicate with him so i hope in fact my brother's case was brought up in this meeting, when he met with the crown prince mohammed bin salman and the request to get him released is also made during that visit. but we don't know. basically, we only know about what is being reported in the media. but so far, we have no updates. we have no news, if my brother's case, if there's any improvement or if we're able to communicate with him again, if he will be released, so far, many families are suffering like ourselves, and waiting anxiously and feeling very disappointed because we don't see any real changes, any real guarantees to protect, you know, to protect our human rights, to protect our loved ones, to bring our loved ones home, allow us to communicate with them.
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and instead, we're living with this you know, torture, this continuous psychological torture on my family, and of course, the disappearance of my brother, we don't know what state he is in after all of the terrible torture he went through. and also the fact that he would be taken from our lives forever. years of punishment, years of disappearance, and that means my family, mi parents will never be able to see my brother again. my mom will never be able to see my brother again and my mom is an american citizen of this country. >> we have about 30 seconds left but i wanted to ask you quickly about the perception of saudi arabia becoming more liberal, more tolerant, more open under this crown prince. and how does that juxtapose to the reality you know inside the
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kingdom? >> all of these things are nothing but white washing to the fact that there is more abuses happening in the country. all of these changes are superficial just to please, to show an image to the west, but not real changes that really affect people's lives. unemployment is on the rise. people are suffering in terms of, they don't have, basically they are living under constant fear. anyone can be detained any moment for any reason or no reason. and there's more in detention and there's more dispositive hearings and more torture and more oppression going on, on a very high level. >> thank you so much for your time, we wish your brother the best, and hopefully you'll get some answers from the administration about whether or not they're making more of an effort to get him released. thank you. not they're making more of an effort to get him released
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systemic failures and egregious poor decision making. that's just part of a new damning report criticizing the law enforcement response to the deadly school shooting in uvalde, texas. and it also comes as the city takes action against its chief of police. police, the next prime time hearing from the january 6th committee is set for this thursday. lawmakers want to lay out what former president trump was doing during the attack on the capitol, but the committee is also hoping to have new evidence before then. we'll explain. plus, president biden is back at the white house,

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