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liberty. liberty. ♪ good morning. it is 10:00 a.m. eastern, 7:00 a.m. pacific. i'm lindsey reiser. this morning we're learning more about the next moves from the house january 6 committee, including who is testifying on thursday. and more potential hearings in the future. right now, a scorching heatwave sweeping across the u.s. and europe where the uk just recorded its highest temperature ever. fresh outrage in uvalde, texas as the school superintendent faces calls to resign after a bombshell report detailed the
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response to the robb elementary mass shooting. and we're looking closer at the state of president biden's agenda amid more dismal polling with the midterms less than four months away. we'll discuss with senator lujan. we are going to begin with the major new developments in the investigation into the january 6 attack. nbc news has now confirmed the names of the two star witnesses who are expected to testify during thursday's primetime committee hearing according to a source familiar with the plans. they are sarah matthews and matthew pottinger who is a former member of the national security council. both worked in the trump white house and both resigned in the wake of the attack on the capitol. thursday will be the first time either will have spoken publicly to the committee. committee chairman bennie thompson is also revealing more of the panel's future plans which include likely releasing a scaled back report of its findings followed by a final
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report. each potentially involve even more hears. let's bring in our panel, jake sherman from punch bowl news and also our analyst from the "washington post" and also chuck rosenberg, msnbc contributor and former u.s. attorney and senior fbi official. jake, let's start with the two new star witnesses. who are they, what could we learn? >> sarah matthews was a white house press official who is now working on capitol hill. kind of somebody who expressed concern let's say to say the least about former president trump's behavior on january 6, but has as you noted been silent since the insurrection at the capitol. matt pottinger as ashley could explain more was a senior aide who frankly a pretty well respected china expert in the republican party who was quite
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frankly somebody who former president trump leaned on a good deal during his tit for tat with china whether it came to trade or national security or anything of that nature. so i would imagine these would be two pretty high profile witnesses as you note. but in addition to that, this hearing is going to try to dissect those 100 something minutes that the capitol was under attack and donald trump said nothing. and furthermore, i think what is important to point out here is we're not seeing anything close to resembling the end of this probe which is quite notable because this probe was supposed to wrap up on thursday night followed by a final report. as you noted in your top, there was a -- there is now some theory that there will be an interim report and then a final report. adam kinzinger told us last week that he is pretty certain that there will be more hearings throughout the next couple months. but time is the enemy here quite frankly because this congress wraps up at the end of this
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year, republicans are likely to take the house of representatives, they will dismantle or completely redirect let's say this committee. so they have limited time to get the work done. >> ashley, your name was invoked, so what can you tell us about what they will declare about the inner workings of the trump white house during this time and this period of time that they are trying to hone in on? >> sure, so one brief thing about matt pottinger. until now, he was actually best known for being one of the people who was sounding the earliest of alarms about coronavirus. he is a former reporter for the washington street journal. he had -- who had been based in china. he had a lot of contacts over there. and so he was texting with his friends, former sources, and he was the one warning the white house, you know, this is coming, this is serious. he was showing up for work in meetings, getting mocked in n95 masks before most people even sort of heard of the virus. of course that is not what the committee is going to be asking him about. these two people, they are a
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real value to the committee because they were both in the white house and in the west wing on january 6. sarah matthews, a young press aide, was sort of privy to the efforts to get the president to put out a statement, a tweet, a video calling off his supporters so she can speak to what he finally did and what he didn't do. one thing that we and others have reported on is that the video that former president trump put out, it was not the first video he made. so that is certainly something that would be fascinating to see if the committee could get to the bottom of what was in that video that his aides deemed could not be sent out. and matt pottinger too, he came into the -- right into the west wing in the oval office or the room just near it around 3:00 p.m. that day relaying a message from someone who was december patly as many were trying to get the national guard called. he talked to mark meadows and said the guard still isn't there. so they both have real firsthand
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advisability again into what the president did and more importantly did not do during those crucial 187 minutes. >> chuck, i want to ask you a two pronged question here because a lot of times from the former president one thing we'll hear on truth social is that this person was too low level or i barely know this person. talk to us about that kind of a response in relation to these two witnesses we'll hear from on thirst and also what do you think the doj will be listening for? >> sure. well, first question first. what the president says about quote/unquote low ranking witnesses is utter nonsense. ashley just told you why. the two people who are being called on thursday to testify had visibility into what was going on in and around the oval office and with the president. so imagine that you are no longer an msnbc anchor but an fbi special agent and a bank gets robbed. and you have a choice between two witnesses. the ceo of the bank sitting seven states away or a teller in
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the lobby of the bank who saw the bank robber. one is a high ranking official in the bank and one is a low ranking official in the bank, but only one is a valuable witness. and so this notion that low ranking person isn't a valuable witness is utter nonsense. people who see stuff and hear stuff are valuable witnesses, particularly if they tell the truth. and it doesn't matter where they rang ig. oig. so put that aside. what will the doj be looking for? we know they are watching, but i don't know if it matters all that much to them what these two witnesses say on this particular day because they also have access to these two witnesses. doj doesn't have to rely entirely on what the january 6 committee presents and finds. they have their own investigative resources. and i am quite certain that they are looking at this very hard. so will they be watching, yes. will it be a surprise to them, i doubt it. do they have their own ability do this investigation? of course they do.
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>> so jake, let's talk about the fact that this will now be potentially broken up into two parts. a report, a final report, a couple more hearings. why do you think they are doing this way? >> i think because they have so much information. i mean, the big challenge facing this committee is new people keep coming out of the woodwork and expressing willingness to speak. think about what just happened in the last week. the secret service text message issue that perhaps the secret service, inspector general at the homeland security department indicated that the secret service had deleted text messages from january 5 and 6. now the "new york times" is reporting about this new attorney who was feeding trump all these bizarre conspiracy theories about martial law and seizing voting machines. the amount of garbage that was being fed to the former president in those days between let's call it election day and january 6 is astounding. so they have all these new lines of inquiry and frankly, this is
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about building public support for the department of justice to take action against somebody in this orbit. i mean, there is a ton of frustration here in this building in the capitol where i work, where i report, about the lack of action at doj among democrats and even some republicans, not many republicans, but some republicans. so this is -- they are going to go down every legitimate rabbit hole. and it is not rabbit holes but they will follow every lead to try to get to the bottom of all of these lines of inquiry. >> ashley, quickly because i still want to get to the secret service texts with chuck, but bennie thompson tweeted that he has tested positive for covid. jake already talked about how crucial time is and it is of the essence. what does this mean? >> so to be honest, i don't know exactly. i believe that he was not one of the members who was leading thursday night's hearing. i think that that was adam kinzinger and someone else. so there is a world in which
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thursday night this sort of primetime -- not even spectacle, primetime drama that the committee is hoping to display to the world will go on. and i will say as jake mentioned, they know that time is of the essence and of the utmost. and so i think based on what, you know, they have conveyed which is that they are really racing against, you know, january when likely a republican house comes in, they are going to do everything possible to proceed on all cylinders. >> chuck, i only have about a minute left with you, but today is the day that we were supposed to see at least the committee was supposed to see the text messages from the secret service that were deleted. we know that the agency has blamed the deletion on a pre-planned data migration. does that send up any red flags to you? >> the fact that it is missing certainly does, but in my experience, if you have a choice between two explanations, made left lance and ineptitude, go with ineptitude every time.
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if there was a pre-planned phone migration program, somebody should have stopped it. said that we need all our data preserved. so my guess, that it is horses and not zebras, go to the most logical explanation and here i think it is ineptitude. by the way, you can still talk to the agents and ask them what happened that day, so you still have access to information about what it was that they were thinking and doing and seeing. it would be nice to have the text messages too. i hope they are recoverable. >> jake, ashley, thank you. chuck will stay with us. right now in washington, what is expected to be the final day of jury selection is under way as part of the trial for former top trump adviser steve bannon. bannon faces two counts of criminal contempt after refusing to cooperate with a subpoena from that house january 6 committee. so joining us now is justice correspondent pete williams. chuck rosenberg is still with
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us. pete, walks through what you are waiting for. >> we're waiting for the jury to be seated but it hasn't happenet they have to get to 14. and right now the lawyers and the judge are discussing what evidence is admissible. basically the main defense that steve bannon has left now is his claim that the committee kept despite the fact that the so-called deadline for the subpoena had passed, the committee kept asking him for more information. and it has been bannon's contention that that meant that they kept extending the deadline. they kept pushing it off saying, okay, we still want to hear from you, we still want to hear from you, and the question now is how much of that can be told to the jury, what kind of evidence can they use to back that up, what sort of exhibits could be offered, what letters could be offered had are not hearsay. and that is what the judge is trying to figure out right now. so until we get that sorted out, they won't get to the jury
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selection part. but once they start the jury selection part, that should go pretty quickly and then we'll get to opening statements. and the government has said that they have just basically two, maybe three witnesses. an fbi agent who will discuss what he found in his investigation about how the subpoena was delivered, how bannon responded, and then the committee's chief counsel who will describe her interactions with bannon's lawyers and what she said was one nonoig's refusal to comply with the subpoena. and then maybe another counsel from the committee. soness would the government gets started, the case will go pretty fast. >> chuck, consequences, what consequences could bannon face if he is found guilty and if is he found guilty, does that mean that the committee automatically gets what they want from him? it doesn't, right? >> second question first. you are absolutely right, this is not an attempt by the committee to compel his compliance or force his testimony. that is by and large over. this is punishment for
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noncompliance. and so to your first question, if he is convicted on both counts, theoretically he faces up to two years in prison. i doubt somebody without a criminal record being convicted of a contempt of congress is going to go to prison for two years. but consequences include a fine and some amount of prison time. these are two misdemeanors, they require at least 30 days in prison or in confinement if convicted. and i hate to predict what juries will do, but as pete outlined so well, this is relatively straightforward case. the committee was formed. it had authority to issue iss. it issued a subpoena to mr. bannon and he ignored it. once the judge makes a ruling on what evidence is admissible, it should move relatively quickly. >> chuck and pete, thank you both. you can catch our special coverage of the january 6 hearing thursday at 7:00 p.m. eastern, 4:00 p.m. pacific. and still ahead, new calls
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right now millions of americans are facing blazing hot temperatures with some areas experiencing the hottest weather they have seen in decades. from central california to the great plains to the northeast, almost 100 million people are under heat warnings or advisories. some cities like new york city setting up cooling stations. the unusually warm weather is hitting europe as well.
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this morning united kingdom reported a temperature of 104 degrees. the uk's highest temperature ever recorded. joining us right now are emily laquetta from the jersey shore and kelly cobiella in london. emily, what are you seeing there? >> reporter: you can see behind me people are trying to beat the heat. we're seeing surfers out here, people wading in the water. even at this early hour as the temperatures are rising, crowds out here at the beach are growing. here on the east coast, we briefly dodged some of the scorching temperatures we've seen in other parts of the country, but not for long. we're going to see some rising really hot temps head our way in the next couple of days. more than half of the country is seeing temperatures that exceed 90 degrees. many areas setting new records and they are expected to continue to do so throughout the day today. a slew of cities particularly in texas have already seen more 100 degree plus days so far this
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year than they typically record all summer long. so it is a season that is shaping up to be relentless. dallas reaching 109 degrees yesterday, that is where we spoke with michael snead who said this is a matter of life and death for him. >> i don't have central air, it would have me eefr 100 degrees inside the house. most of the time i have to sit right on the couch up under the air conditioning and that is not really doing much. so i feel in danger all the time. >> reporter: keep in mind heat is the number one weather-related killer. so make sure that you are not leaving your pets or your kids inside your parked and locked cars because even just within a ten minute span, you can see your car's temperature increase by up to 20 degrees. and i'll add one other thing, but three-quarters of the country has seen more extreme heat days per year since 1970.
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>> that is life and death. kelly, how are people in london and europe handling the record breaking temps? >> reporter: you can see what people are trying to do here behind me in london, in the uk, most people don't have air conditioning. so they are trying to get out of their very hot apartments and homes and to a watering hole like this. also being told to stay in the shade, drink water, given all those tips that you are supposed to take on board trying to stay safe during a heatwave. but one picture in particular really encapsulates how people are feeling. i want you to look at this, this went viral, it is a picture of a guard at buckingham palace and in his traditional dress, bear skin hat breaking pose just to get a sip of water from a police officer. that was yesterday when the high was 101. today, 104 is the highest it has gotten so far that we've seen. those temperatures are supposed to go even higher.
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and as bad as it is here in the uk, it is worse in europe. there are wildfires raging in france, spain, portugal. more fires started overnight in france as well, that is where they are really battling the hot air, extremely dry conditions. and this heat is making the environment so favorable for fires that one local fire official said that they see 40-year-old pine tree trunks just bursting. very dangerous conditions in europe where they are also seeing record highs. here in the uk, yesterday we saw that runway melt in the heat in the afternoon at lute nechlt airport which is north of london. and today lots of train cancellations, lots of advice to stay home or at least stay away from public transport and somewhere, anywhere, in the shade. >> those images are so startling and we'll be talking about the president's stalled sweeping
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climate package coming up soon with senator lujan. thank you both so much. and tonight uvalde parent/teacher organization will hold a meeting as emotions run incredibly high. at yesterday's school board meeting, 45 minutes allotted for community comments extended to more than three hours. parents are demanding accountability and answers after a damning new preliminary report found nearly 400 police officers were part of a response with systemic failures and egregiously poor decision making during that massacre that killed 19 students and two teachers. guad venegas is live in uvalde. what are you hearing there? >> reporter: it was a very heated meeting. parents are reacting very upset. this is the first time they were given time to speak in front of a microphone, unlimited time by the way. and the school superintendent said he should have done that before, he apologized for not doing this before. and this meeting as you
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mentioned, it extended for several hours. the parents had an opportunity to ask questions. and while some were asking questions, others were yelling theirs. it almost felt like it was too opposite sides in this meeting. on one side on stage, you had the members of the school board trying to answer questions, being yelled at by parents and members of the community. on the other side who are very upset because of this report that was released over the weekend, mentioned a lot of the issues with the law, issues with the perimeter fence. and of course one by one they went up to that microphone and yelled their questions. here is part of the meeting. >> you're a vet. what would you have done? answer. >> i don't have an answer for you. >> you don't have an answer. don't have an answer? you don't have an answer? for these families? >> excuse me just a minute. sir, i am not a coward. i am a combat veteran of vietnam, i served 26 years in
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the navy and i served in desert storm. thank you. >> so answer the question. what would you have done? >> reporter: that is how heated things got during the meeting. there was also a lot of parents talking about police chief pete arredondo asking the school district what his future is going to be like. he is still on administrative leave. when someone would mention pete arredondo, others would yell from the back if he was going to get fired or keep his job. and that was very difficult. the superintendent did say that they will take into consideration the findings of this report and they will have a closed meeting to make a decision on pete arredondo's future. and part of the reason why they had this meeting was also to talk about what the district is going to do moving forward, what security measures are going to be taken to improve security at the schools. so the superintendent has already given a list of what they know that they will do. they will be installing a new perimeter fencing, they also
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plan to upgrade the doors and locks which have been discussed a lot because some weren't working properly according to that report. they also plan to install new cameras. they want to add more police officers. and also include more training for those officers. but when the school district members talked about what they are going to do, there was a lot of screaming from the back. some people saying that they want an entire new police force for the school district. so like i said, it felt like it was two opposite sides trying to meet at this special school board meeting. >> and we do have that pto meeting tonight as well. guad venegas, thanks so much. still to come, my better view with senator ben ray lujan, and what is next for president biden's sweeping climate change legislation after a member of his own party blocked it. a memb a memb his own part so you can...
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they wrote it for themselves. 31 past the hour. as roughly two-thirds of americans are dealing with brutal heat, democrats are upset with west virginia senator joe manchin over his decision to block climate legislation, including tax incentives for wind and solar power and electric vehicles. manchin says while he is concerned that more spending will send inflation even higher,
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he says discussions over this bill are far from finished. >> i haven't walked away from anything. and inflation is my greatest concern. energy is something that we have to have. and we can walk and chew gum, we can find a pathway forward. we're in good talks. >> and joining us now is senator ben ray lujan oig. you just heard from senator manchin that he hasn't walked away from anything. are you still hopeful that congress will pass something and if not, should the president act at the executive level? >> i always remain optimistic. if there is anything that i've learned about the senate, it is that nothing is dead until the final vote. and negotiations are still ongoing. so i share the frustration with my constituents, with colleagues across the country, but i am hopeful that we still can make progress and that we will come to some positive resolution moving forward. with that being said, i do agree that the president should be
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taking executive action. there is no reason that we should not be working parallel with the legislative branch and with the executive branch of government especially when it comes to the climate crisis that the world is facing but that the united states needs to show leadership on. >> do you understand your colleague's messaging here? he says inflation is his biggest concern. isn't this climate package something that would be already paid for so that would be a moot point? >> i don't want to speak for senator joe manchin with his process on how he is getting here. but what i can say is that majority of the democratic caucus, a majority of the country and folks around the world believe that we need to take action on the climate crisis. we know that the climate crisis will deliver more economic challenges and problems across the united states and around the world. it is going to take people's lives. we're seeing the devastation that families are facing right now across europe. and look, coming from new mexico, we have the two largest forest fires that our state has
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ever seen that just completely devastated families. and so we know what this means back in new mexico. and that is why i'm hopeful. i'm going to keep pushing, i'll keep encouraging and doing everything that i can to get us to a positive place and to make progress in this space. many people were saying the same things about the gun safety legislation, reducing gun violence around the country. and we saw how the senate came together, working with the legislative branch of government to get the bill adopted. >> and we know that climate is on the top of the minds for americans because of how hot it is issimply, but inflation is showing that americans are not happy with how things are going. 79% of americans believe things are going pretty or very badly. and more than two-thirds believe president biden is not paying attention to the most important problems facing the country right now. a new "new york times" cnn college poll found the economy and inflation and cost of living are americans' top concerns. same poll shows that 64% of
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democrats don't want joe biden to be the party's presidential nominee in 2024. so senator, what is your message to americans right now about what is being done to alleviate these concerns and is this also a messaging problem for democrats? >> look, i agree with the challenges that are being shown by families across the country. and n. new mexico when i'm vitt going with friends and family and at the grocery store or at the gas pump, i hear and feel their pain. more must be done to take this issue on. the president does care about the american people. and he is working within everything he can do and we're encouraging him do as much as he can if not more to be able to provide support to brothers and sisters across america. what i will say though what that polling is not capturing is how well our democratic colleagues in the senate are doing as well. and it is because they are taking time to listen. in arizona, out in georgia, in
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pennsylvania, in new hampshire and in nevada. and we're even seeing these numbers change in ohio. but it is because our democratic colleagues and candidates are going to visit with folks to earn their trust back to be able to bring their voices here and lift them up. what we need here are enough votes to be able to look at filibuster reform, but to move policies forward that will help the pain that families are facing so that we can alleviate it. and in the end, look, i always say that democrats, we always need to do better when it comes to messaging, but it is because we're concentrating on all of the fine print. and they often say republicans are better at headlines and we're better at the fine print. i think the american people deserve better policy to help them with the pain they are facing in their lives and that is what we're concentrating on. >> there are reports that there is a deal that is close to help with food prices. what would that bill do? >> when we look at food production in the country, we need to accelerate how we're
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able to get food approved to be able to get it to families. but it needs to be done safely. the one piece that i hope is included in there as well is food worker modernization arc -- or the farm worker modernization act. they need to be looked at together so we have the workforce. if it is the package passed out of the house, it means improving access to a stronger workforce to be able to help farmers and ranchers across the country to be able to help at the grocery stores, food on the shelf. and making sure that we're able to have access to high quality and safe food in the country. this is important to get done. and in the end, this is another example where we can work bipartisanly and the food worker modernization act received the most republican support of any recent immigration package. >> all right. senator, thank you so much for your time. weren't to get straight to
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breaking news in the contempt trial of steve bannon. pete williams is joining us. what do we know? >> there has been a hiccup this morning. this was supposed to be the day to complete jury selection, but they haven't really gotten around to that yet. right now the hearing or the trial is in recess while the judge considers a request from bannon's lawyers to delay the trial another month. now, this is the reason they have made this request. all along the judge has said that steve bannon cannot argue to the jury, cannot use as one of his defenses that he was relying on an assertion of executive privilege by president trump and also that his lawyer urged him not to respond to the subpoena that his former government official he didn't to. the judge said that was off-limits. but today in discussing whether the jury can hear a letter from bennie thompson who is the chairman of january 6 committee in which thompson says, you
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know, all these things that bannon has raised, you can't argue this, thompson says in the letter, the government wants that letter in, bannon's lawyer said it was hearsay. but the judge said no, it can be introduced as evidence. all steve bannon has to do is put down in writing that he was relying on trump executive privilege. that is known as a proffer. and the defense lawyers have said what? wait a minute. you told us earlier we could never argue that to the jury, what is the deal if now we can? that is a major change here. we're not prepared for that. that changes our whole approach to the trial. we want it delayed at least a month. so the judge has recessed the hearing to consider that motion. so everything is on hold for now. we're waiting to hear until judge karl nichols comes back into court to decide whether in fact to proceed or whether in fact to delay things another
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month. >> big department there. we'll stay on top of it. appreciate it. russian president vladimir putin is in iran right now, his second trip outside russia since the invasion of ukraine. why he is there and how the visit could affect relations with the u.s. next. d affect relations with the u.s next a monster was attacking but the team remained calm. because with miro, they could problem solve together, and find the answer that was right under their nose. or... his nose.
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it will hold countries responsible including financial sanctions and visa bans. recent cases involving wnba star brittney griner and paul whelan both being held in russia putting a spotlight on the nearly 50 americans the state department believes are wrongfully detained around the world. joining us with more on this is josh letterman. how much weight will this executive order have? >> reporter: i think that putting a spotlight on the issue is the right thing to think of it. rather than anything earth shattering in terms of policy, this is an attempt by the biden administration to say we get it, this is a critical and growing issue and we're taking it very seriously. so this executive order that the president has signed would allow the u.s. government to impose sanctions, including financial penalties and visa bans on people potentially including officials of other governments who are involved this hostage-taking. whether or not that will dissuade people from taking hostages in the future, we don't know. there is a whole lot of
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sanctions on russia and yet brittney griner is still in russian jail. and this executive order will also improve information sharing with families of u.s. hostages about where they are and what the u.s. government is doing to try to free them. and then the state department will also be creating a new designation on those travel alerts that they put out to tell you about the danger in various countries, specifically designating countries if they are high risk for hostage-taking and wrongful detention. countries like north korea, myanmar, china, venezuela, and iran. that in the past there have been issues with taking of u.s. hostages. but lindsey, some of the families of u.s. current hostages overseas, they are very upset and disappointed by the biden administration, they say this is insufficient, theyare demanding a meeting with the president and they say this executive order simply direct's biden's own government to do what it should have sbaen been
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already doing. >> josh letterman, thank you. and vladimir putin is leaving russia for just the second time since the invasion of ukraine. he is in iran where he met with iran's president and is expected to meet next hour with the turkish president to discuss the latest on syria as well as the war in ukraine. last week the white house said it believed that iran was preparing to provide russia with hundreds of unmanned aerial vehicles including weapon capable drones. joining us right now is richard stengel former under-secretary of state for public diplomacy. how significant is putin's visit to iran? >> well, even the school bully has one friend in class and that is what tehran is to moscow. russia and tehran are among the two most sanctioned nations in the world, they are pariahs. but they have a lot in common. you know, iran may be the second largest oil producer after russia, they want to have an agreement about oil distribution
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that keeps prices high. but the other irony of course is that russia was a part of the so-called p5+1 iran deal. donald trump disastrously overturned. so they may talk about that too. that is why foreign relations is so complex because there are things with russia that we want to negotiate on and get a deal on and things that we don't. >> what do you read into turkey's president taking part in this meeting and how could that impact turkey's role eventually if it comes to negotiating a potential peace agreement down the road? >> well, one of vladimir putin's long time goals is to keep nato in a state of disarm any rather than disharmony. and turkey has been an outlier within nato. even i think yesterday mr. erdogan said, well, maybe i'm not going to approve finland and
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sweden being part of nato, which is doing putin's business. so at the same time, turkey has had lots of dealings with russia that alienates him from putin. so it is a complex situation. they will also be talking about syria where russia is involved and turkey is involved. but it is a way for erdogan kind of to put a stick in the eye of the west and nato, which is something that he likes doing. >> and a new poll, this is kind of fascinating, president biden's approval rating of his handling of the war in ukraine hit just 46%. why do you think that is and what do you think the president needs to do differently? >> well, i think i watched the last segment where you were talking about the president's poll ratings. 46% approval on ukraine is a lot higher than biden is polling on the economy or any number of issues including just his regular support.
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so i'd argue that he is doing something right when it comes to ukraine. that is a high water mark for him in the polling. so at the same time, remember americans always care more about domestic issues than international ones. bill clinton's 1992, it is the economy, stupid. that is ultimately pocketbook issues that americans care about. so he is involved in ukraine because he actually wants to help pocketbook issues and bring the price of oil and gas down. so, you know, i think this general -- pretty general level of high support for what the president is doing this ukraine. >> all right. richard stengel, thanks for joining us. up next, it is primary day in maryland and we'll look at a tight race for governor right now. we'll go live to maryland next. when you have technology that's easier to control...
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grumbach. what are voters saying as they're heading to the polls today? >> reporter: neither donald trump or larry hogan o are running for maryland governor this time, but their influence is. kelly schulz is the moderate candidate, longtime commerce secretary in the hogan administration. she's said she's not going to change the abortion rules, restrictions and laws as they stand right now in the state of maryland. she's been endorsed by current governor larry hogan. on the other hand, you have dan cox, a state delegate in maryland right now. he's been endorsed by former president trump. he's somebody who organized buss and buses full of people to go from maryland down to the white house ellipse on january 6th for that big rally. he's also somebody who says to this day he believes the 2020 election was stolen. it really brings up a big question in this race of the importance and value of the donald trump endorsement. is it something the republican candidates still need to rely on? voters we talked to rural
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carroll county, 45 minutes west of baltimore, they say they don't care who makes the endorsement, they don't care. what they care about is the issues the candidates have on their stances. here is what some folks we talked to had to say. >> i don't care the endorsements of trump or the governor. i know both of those candidates, and the person who has the better ability to get along with the people in annapolis and to get along with the people they're working with is kelly schulz. >> i did vote for cox for a lot of the same reasons i would have voted for trump. >> what were those reasons? >> mostly financial. my retirement. i'm so close to retirement, i need to get back on track. >> reporter: all of these candidates need to wait to find out who won these races. there's been a record number of mail-in ballots requested, 400,000. the law in maryland states they can't even start counting those mail-in ballots until thursday.
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lindsey? >> gary grumbach, thank you so much. that will do it for me for this hour. i'll be back after a quick break with breaking news. the london fire brigade declaring a major incident as fires break out across the city. the tenth pick is in the new all-american club. that's a “club” i want to join! let's hear from simone. the new subway series. what's your pick? godaddy lets you sell from your online store or in person and manage it all from one spot. trusted by over 20 million customers worldwide, godaddy has the tools to sell anything anywhere. start for free at godaddy.com/sell
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announced they're declaring a major incident as firefighters are battling multiple significant fires across the city. i comes hours after the uk broke its record for the highest temperature ever recorded. joining us from london is nbc news foreign correspondent meagan fitzgerald. what more can you tell us about the fires and what this declaration means? >> reporter: lindsey, good to be with you. the uk has already said this is going to be a crisis situation for the last several days. they declared a state of emergency here. we're seeing a massive fire breaking out in a residential area on the outskirts of london. right now information is still coming in. we do know that 15 fire engines have responded. we know that around 100 firefighters are on the scene fighting this blaze. they're stretched thin, the uk seeing its highest temperatures ever at 104 degrees and possibly climbing. so you'r

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