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good to be with you. i'm katy tur. the secret service says it cannot recover the deleted text messages from january 5th and 6th of last year. "the washington post" is reporting the agency has no new text to provide to congress and that any other messages exchanged between agents around the time of the attack were purged according to a senior official briefed on the matter who spoke with the paper.
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the national archives has called for an investigation into how and why the messages were wiped. it sent a letter to the secret service just a short time ago asking for a report within 30 days if it is determined any information wasn't properly deleted. the committee is gearing up for the next hearing. former white house press secretary sarah matthews and former deputy security adviser matthew pottinger will appear before the committee. both have already testified behind closed doors. this time they'll do it publicly. the committee has already played snippets of their taped interviews recalling the events that unfolded inside the white house on january 6th, particularly their reaction to donald trump's repeated attacks on his vice president as rioters were calling for mike pence's hanging. >> we all talked about at that
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point how it was bad and the situation was getting out of hand. we thought the president needed to tweet something and tweet something immediately. we all got a notification. so we knew it was a tweet from the president and we looked down and it was a tweet about mike pence. it felt like he was pouring gasoline on the fire by tweeting that. >> the tweet said something to the effect that mike pence, the vice president, didn't have the courage to do what should have been done. i read that tweet and made a decision at that moment to resign. that's where i knew i was leaving that day. >> members of the hearing said this hearing will detail what donald trump was doing during the attack and why the former president stalled for more than three hours before telling supporters to go home.
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joining me now are my guests. paul, i'll go to you first. you have worked within the justice department. what is the normal procedure for backing up data when these system migrations take place? >> so the procedure is if you know that documents or texts are the subject of public interest or litigation, you go out of your way to preserve them. if there is an opportunity to get rid of them or there is an opportunity to save them, you elect to save them. so the question here is whether this is just some kind of extreme negligence by the secret service or something more sinister, whether it is people within the agency trying to protect donald trump and don't
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want these texts to be revealed. >> those days were very obviously in the public interest, paul. i know the secret service has said they weren't alerted to any investigation or desire for this information until after they started the migration and that's why they didn't think to save these things. as you said, if it is a matter of public interest you should save them. i am finding it a little confusing or hard to believe why anybody would think maybe they shouldn't save this material from these two days. those two days especially. >> that is exactly right. these missing text messages could corroborate cassidy hutchinson's incriminating testimony that trump assaulted a secret service agent to try to make him drive to the capitol on january 6th. this is the first time the panel subpoenad an executive branch agency and that is because there are people inside the secret service who know what went down with this missing evidence.
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we've got to get to the facts. the secret service used to be held above reproach but we are seeing the devastating impact of trumpism on trusted american institutions. some trump secret service officers reportedly tried to discredit cassidy hutchinson so now there are legitimate concerns about whether the secret service has gone political and has agents who are trying to shield donald trump from being brought to justice. >> do you have any reporting on that, betsy? >> what i can tell you is that this is, this subpoena in particular, that paul referred to, is really important because the secret service has emphasized for months now on the record including to me directly that they say they are fully cooperating with the select committee. they've said they are sharing every document the committee wants. they're making every official available for interviews who the committee could potentially be interested in talking to. that has long been the secret service's line. the fact that the committee took this additional aggressive step to try to get texts, points to
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the fact that there is clearly a really big gap between the way the secret service is billing its cooperation with the committee and the assessment the committee has. in addition the national archives told my colleagues here at politico that they are actively investigating the allegations about improper record preservation within the secret service. these terms are all pretty wonky -- record preservation, system migration, text message deletion. ultimately what it comes down to is are the original, real time, contemperaneous documents that show what the people directly for trump knew and thought about it, are those documents going to be available to the public? they are essential for the historic record and the fact the service says it can't find them is pretty wild >> i think anybody who has worked in corporate america has word the word systems migration. it is certainly not a fun experience but you are told whenever you doing something like that even if it is just your iphone and you are updating
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it, back up your information. that is the first thing they tell you before you start one of these wipes. betsy, does this handicap the committee? is this going to be a big deal for the committee? >> the problem is we don't know what we don't know. we don't know the contents of the text, the committee doesn't know the contents of the texts am sometimes messages like this are more interesting when we haven't seen them than when they are ultimately revealed. of course it is a no brainer it would have been valuable for the committee to have any documents in part because it would have shown potentially any additional law enforcement officials or people outside the service who might have had knowledge about what actually happened when trump traveled from the ellipse to the white house. what the committee has going for it of course is that they do have access to all the agents who worked for the secret service at the time. they can put them under subpoena. they can put them in depositions where if they lie they face potential prosecution.
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that is a really big source of leverage the committee has of course. but sometimes people's memories are not what investigators would like them to be. there is nothing better than contemperaneous documents and the fact they don't have them is not good. >> let's talk about what we'll see on thursday. sarah matthews and mr. pottinger. what can we expect from them, betsy? >> both of these officials resigned on january 6th because of what was happening that day. pottinger is particularly interesting. he was a senior national security counsel staffer for the entirety of the trump administration. as people remember the nsc had a crazy amount of staff turnover for the entire four years. pottinger endured through a number of national security advisers. i'm told one person who was a key advocate for pottinger within the trump administration was then vice president mike pence. so it would have been extraordinarily difficult and intense for pottinger to see the president's text about mike pence that went down on january
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6th although perhaps difficult -- it sounds like it was really easy for him. that text he testified to the committee made it crystal clear that he didn't want to be in the administration anymore and that is why he resigned. sarah matthews is interesting, too, because she was on the press team, so she would have had visibility into how sort of the external facers of the trump white house were scrambling to figure out what are we going to say? what is the president going to say? why hasn't the president said anything yet? the experience these two former staffers bring are very different. we'll get two very different perspectives on the way things played out that way and why both of them felt the president's inaction in particular made it impossible for them to stay in the administration. >> we have ali vitale connected with us. you're on capitol hill and i know you have a lot of contact with the committee. what are they telling you about this news from "the washington post"? >> reporter: well look. they had said yesterday and what is striking is the fact that it
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seems that these text messages are gone now because multiple members who i spoke to yesterday including the chairman of the committee bennie thompson seemed under the impression they were going to be getting these text messages and they could be recovered. if now in fact that is not the case it is a significant loss for the committee who wants to be able to flesh out in the fullest possible fashion all of the different things that we have heard publicly from witnesses including cassidy hutchinson and others and of course texts like this from consequential days such as january 5 and 6 would be really important to the effort. the other piece is the committee is now pushing ahead to the thursday hearing that you guys have been talking about. they are now also considering potential hearings after that. yesterday the chairman told me they're doing not just the final report in the fall they've been talking about but in between the final report and thursday's primetime hearing they'll issue some kind of scaled back version
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of the report like midway between the final session of the summer hearings and the final report. the committee just keeps getting so much information that they want to keep being able to present it in real time, fully aware of the fact they are not sure when the information is going to stop flowing to them so they want to continue to lay the door open to -- leave the door open to lay out this information for the public. they are not considering the political calendar and whether the former president is going to potentially announce. multiple members have told me no one is above the law including the former president and for them the midterm calendar is not a consideration because they'll release the information when they are ready. >> ali vitalii thank you very much. betsy woodruff swan, thank you as well. paul butler, you, too. 12 jurors and two alternate jurors have been chosen in the trial of former white house strategist steve bannon. court was in recess for part of the morning as both sides hashed out a disagreement on evidence.
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the judge rejected another request by the defense to delay the trial this time by a month. bannon faces two criminal contempt charges for defying a subpoena from the january 6 committee. joining me now is nbc news justice correspondent pete williams. i am looking at the jury notes and there seems to be a state department employee on the jury, an art salesman, nasa contractor, doctor, architect, and handful of d.c. government employees. a lot of whom have extensive experience serving on juries. >> it means a typical d.c. jury. two d.c. government employees, someone who works for the state department, somebody who sells appliances in maryland, a photographer, a guy who works for a covid testing firm, and the architect says he watched nbc news reports about the bannon case and the task here is to find people who say they can judge the case based on the arguments in the courtroom so we
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are past the arguments about whether the trial should be moved. the judge has given preliminary instructions to the jury and now the trial starts in full with opening statements from the government and then steve bannon. the government has said it only intends to call two maybe three witnesses. an fbi agent who will testify about the work between bannon and the committee and then the chief counsel for the committee to talk about the efforts to try to get bannon to comply with the subpoena. the government says it is a straight forward case he simply refused to comply with the subpoena. bannon's defense or what is left of it seems to be this. because of the continuing discussions between the committee and bannon over even though he didn't comply with the subpoena on the original date, that some time was left for him to still comply. in other words the deadline kept getting pushed out and wasn't clear. that seems to be what bannon's defense is left with now.
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i don't know how many witnesses he'll call but the judge has put off limits. one thing he wanted to do was to call members of the committee and other democrats in congress and attack the committee as being improperly formed but the judge says he can't do that. >> this is also surrounding executive privilege. he claimed it but one of donald trump's lawyers said donald trump never invoked it. does that make this kind of an open-and-shut case? >> well, he can't argue according to the judge that he is immune from this charge because he acted on the advice of counsel. can't argue that. can't argue that he didn't comply with the subpoena because of executive privilege. where there may be some discussion of that issue of the privilege issue, though, is the later stages of the trial he may say because those factors were in play he thought there was no hard and fast deadline and that
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may be additional evidence about his argument that he wasn't sure about the date being pushed out. that is about as far as he can go. >> pete williams, thank you very much. >> reporter: you bet. still ahead, a brutal heat wave continues to bake the united states and europe. what is driving the stifling temperatures and why the impact has been far more damaging abroad. the first lady of ukraine emerges from nearly five months of seclusion for a visit to washington, d.c. inside her white house meeting and what she plans to say to congress tomorrow. there she is with the president and the first lady. first, after a blistering report detailing law enforcement failures members of the uvalde community flooded a school board meeting with demands for accountability. >> not one was man enough to go in there. 77 minutes. 77 minutes. minutes minutes 77 minutes that's easier to con.
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what are you guys going to make sure i don't have to watch my friends die? what are you going to do to make sure i don't have to wait 77 minutes bleeding out on my classroom floor like my little sister did. >> you need to clean house. you need to start from zero. these are the things that keep me up at night. and i wonder, have you thought of these things? have they crossed your mind?
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i ask you what are you going to do about your failures? >> this was the last dress that all my friends saw me on. most of those kids were my friends. that's not good. i don't want to go to your guys' school if they don't have protection. >> angry parents and students and kids in uvalde are calling for accountability after a new texas house committee preliminary report revealed more allegations of law enforcement failures. at last night's school board meeting the 45 minutes set aside for comments from the community stretched for more than three hours as parents demanded answers that board members were unable to provide. more tension is expected tonight when uvalde's parent teacher organization will hold its meeting ahead of the new school year. the accountability that parents are demanding will not be easy to find. texas legal experts tell them officers generally cannot be
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charged in criminal court for failing to act and because the preliminary report found that many of the victims died before most of the officers arrived, lawsuits pursued in civil court could face hurdles. joining me now from uvalde, what are you hearing there? >> reporter: this meeting that you mentioned more than three hours long had members of the community and as we just saw young girls speaking about how they feel about returning back to school at the end of summer. what we heard after the meeting from some parents leaving is that they don't feel like they can trust the school district. a lot of them say they don't want to send their kids back to school after summer. this meeting felt like it was two opposite sides with people, parents and members of the community yelling at the stage where the members of the school board were trying to answer questions. there are two main things brought up by a lot of
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individuals at this meeting. one was the issues with the school with the doors not locking properly. the report stating that staff at the school knew the door wasn't locking properly. then of course the response by officers, chief pete arredondo who has been placed on administrative leave, some people asking why he is still a member of the force. this is part of that exchange. very heated exchange between the members of the public and the school board. >> i do have a question. okay? are you going to fire him? >> that will be a decision we will take the report into consideration. it will be a closed session. >> one of the things i did say when he went on administrative leave that we were going to wait for investigative information to come forward to help us in our decision making process and i will stick to that. >> right after that they also told the school superintendent
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if he didn't fire pete arredondo they expected the superintendent to resign and there was cheering in the crowd after that statement was made. you can imagine how the tension built during this meeting yesterday. >> guad venegas, it must have been very intense. thank you for the reporting. ukraine's first lady largely disappeared in the first months of the russian invasion, but today she is in washington. what she is seeking amid the ongoing war in her country. plus, temperatures in europe are so hot they have melted an airport tarmac. they've also fueled explosive wildfires. what makes the intensity of this heat and this heat wave different from others? and this different from others?
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out of their homes. those evacuations are still ongoing with more people expected to be forced to flee in the coming days. britain shattered its hottest record today. the thermometer read 104.4 degrees in south england. london's mayor declared a, quote, major incident after hundreds of firefighters were called to at least ten out of control blazes across the city and surrounding villages. in weddington flames and smoke appear to have taken over an entire village. many of the homes and businesses were engulfed. it's hot here, too. 40 million people across the country are enduring temperatures of 100 degrees or more. folks from california to the mississippi river are under heat watches and warnings. on the east coast it is day two of a five-day heat wave, 90 plus degrees here in new york city. joining me, down the shore in long branch, new jersey, and in
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london. ladies, welcome. i'll start with you. what's it like there? >> reporter: you can see just how people are trying to beat the heat behind me, utilizing the ocean, wading in the water. we've seen a lot of surfers out this morning and as the heat continues to worsen the crowds along the beach are continuing to grow. we're watching the mercury continue to rise actually just recently exceeding 90 degrees in long branch, new jersey, along with more than half of the country, some 40 million americans baking in 100-degree temperatures. really remarkable fact, a slew of cities particularly in texas have seen more 100-degree plus days so far this year than they typically see for the entire summer. this season is really shaping out to be quite relentless. here on the east coast we've briefly seen or managed to escape some of the most scorching temperatures. other parts of the country have recorded but not for long.
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the heat wave is moving in and moving in fast tomorrow, philadelphia, new york city, boston will all be under heat alerts. we'll be watching those areas closely. this is the kind of hot where it makes it hard to walk on the sand with your shoes. just unbearable. we spoke to folks with how they are dealing with the brutal heat. >> right in the sun it feels like about 110. in the shade beautiful. there is the ocean breeze. >> just taking a little ride. it's nice and breezy by the water. definitely will go in the water. >> pretty hot, right? >> yeah. >> but nothing we can't handle. >> reporter: it is important to remember heat is the number one weather related killer so as you're going about your day especially in an area with especially sweltering temperatures stay hydrated and take breaks from the sun. >> so we're used to hot weather here. maybe not extensive hot weather. it is not ideal. we are used to it. we have air conditioners.
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not so much where you are. i used to live in london and i know it doesn't get too hot there. the runways are melting in some cases. we saw the images of the fires and surrounding villages that seemed to engulf the entire town. what is going on? >> well, i can tell you we've just had a gust of wind and honestly it was such a relief. this is what many people in the country have been praying for because it's been unbearably hot. we reached a record high today, temperatures of 104 degrees, beating a record set in 2019 of 101 degrees fahrenheit. that in itself was hot. to put it into perspective for you, usually in the uk when it gets to around 65 degrees fahrenheit we consider that tee shirt weather. for us it is pretty warm. so 104 degrees fahrenheit is
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unheard of and for many unbearable. there was a red alert put in place to warn people about the dangers of this extreme heat. the london fire brigade had to declare a major incident because of how many fires are taking place across the capital. there are at least ten fires they are reacting to. around 350 firefighters are currently trying to tackle blazes in and around the capital. in one incident toward the east of the capital we can see thick, black smoke billowing over the village there, and it seems to be quite serious. the firefighters have been struggling to tackle it. as you refer to about our infrastructure, the vast majority of the buildings in the uk have no air conditioning so it gets extremely warm particularly at night time as well where we've also seen some record numbers when it comes to
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the temperature. we've had tracks buckling at the rail lines at some railways across the country as you refer to. some of the tarmacs have been melting at airports as well. at one particular airport yesterday, they had to suspend flights. this is something we're not used to in this country and now questions are being asked about how we prepare in future. >> well, yeah. it doesn't seem like it is getting any better. 101 degrees the record only a couple years ago, three years ago in 2019. ladies, thank you very much. let's talk more about what we should expect with the climate director for green peace u.s.a. thank you so much. i was reading an interview you did with the "new york times." this is what struck me, what you said, that the reason that people don't see this as an issue, only 1% of americans say it is their top issue when they vote is because you believe they see it as a tomorrow issue. you are saying it's a today
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issue. explain. >> yes. thank you for having me. so what i was talking about is that climate change is happening now and we need to stop talking about it like it is a future problem. as you covered earlier millions of people in the u.s. this week are experiencing the problem first hand. we're seeing people from california to connecticut asked to conserve water. over 60 million people in the u.s. right now are under extreme heat watch. the problem is happening now and so we need solutions immediately. >> how do you convince people that the problem -- i mean, we are feeling it, literally feeling it. we are enduring the effects of climate change. the texas grid has buckled. that was the winter. they're worried about it for the summer as well. i'm getting myself confused. you see what is happening in the uk with the tarmac melting,
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infrastructure there not able to handle it. we are feeling it. the wildfires out west. we are experiencing the problem. and yet we're still not seeing it as a today issue. how do you convince people to start voting on it, make it their one issue they vote on so there is change in congress. >> so according to yale research 72% of adults in america do believe global warming is happening. as you mentioned many people are experiencing the impacts first hand. what is really coming down to now is big oil's grip on our politicians and democracy. for big oil destruction and delay is the new denial. they're pumping in billions of dollars to lobby elected officials to delay action on climate change.
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we know pollution from fossil fuels is the number one contributor to the climate crisis and will continue to accelerate these extreme weather events. what we need is for these politicians not to be listening to big oil, not to be representing the interests of oil and gas but of their constituents and making sure we're taking action on climate. the good news is that there is actually a rumor that has circulated this morning that the biden administration may declare a climate emergency this week. this is a level of action that we need and need to be seeing from the biden administration to make sure we are protecting public health and our communities and averting these disasters. >> there is a lot of pressure on the biden administration to do just that from democrats who say, listen. we don't have a legislative solution. just not going to happen the way things are currently made up. thank you very much for coming
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development. usaid aid has so far provided billions of dollars in support for ukraine's government and ongoing humanitarian crisis. tomorrow the first lady addresses congress in a speech scheduled for 11:00 a.m. in person. her husband ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy addressed congress virtually back in march. joining me now is nbc news white house correspondent josh lederman. ukraine has gotten a lot of support from the u.s. government ongoing support. what exactly do we expect her to ask for? how does the white house expect congress to react? >> reporter: in many ways, today's meeting between the first lady of our country jill biden and the first lady of ukraine builds on their meeting over mother's day back in may when the first lady visited ukraine, met with her ukrainian counterpart, and heard particularly about the humanitarian crisis and mental health crisis that is inflicting so much pain for so many millions of ukrainians.
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the ukrainian first lady asked our government back in may to help ukraine deal with this mental health crisis. today we heard from dr. biden, the american first lady, pledging the u.s. will continue to step up and do just that. it is one of the reasons there are so many other major agencies involved in the meetings taking place at the white house today including the u.s. ambassador to the united nations linda thomas greenfield, top usaid officials, and even the surgeon general joining that session. we had a chance to see president biden surprised ukrainian first lady by dropping in on her arrival ceremony. president biden providing her with a bouquet of flowers as he tried to signal his solidarity as well as the ongoing u.s. efforts to help with the humanitarian crisis in ukraine. >> josh, thank you very much. and the house plans to vote this afternoon on a bill that would codify the right to same sex marriage nationwide. though the timing is a bit fluid the respect for marriage act
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would be a big deal and make same sex marriage legal nationwide under statute and bolster protections for the married couples. perhaps most importantly, it would repeal the defense of marriage act which is technically still on the books. all of this is just in case the now conservative supreme court reverses the 2015 decision legalizing same sex marriage, something justice clarence thomas said the court should consider. another bill guaranteeing access to contraception is set for vote later this week. both bills are expected to pass in the house maybe even with republican support. what does that mean for the senate? joining me now is the congressman who was the first person in a same sex marriage elected to congress and now is one of several. progress, my friend. congressman, thank you very much for being here. we are hearing rumors that republicans are on board with this. is that what you're hearing as
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well? >> thanks for me. based on their debate i couldn't tell what they were for or against. they said the bill wasn't necessary. i would certainly argue with that. i want my husband to be able to visit me if i have to go back to the hospital and i want to be able to make sure he gets my earned benefits of social security and retirement, etcetera. but they seem to ignore that and wanted to really talk about their traditional talking points on inflation and the border, etcetera. they didn't really give us a lot of indication though some members, chip roy for example, did argue against the law of the land which is that same sex couples and interracial couples can be married and that is what the vote is about today. we'll see how many ultra extremists there are in congress in a little bit. >> let me ask you this. when we talk about protecting marriage and also talk about bolstering protections beyond that what exactly does that mean? you just mentioned you want to make sure your husband can visit you in the hospital if something were to go wrong. >> yeah. it is all the benefits that
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anyone has as a married couple. often it is things like retirement benefits, hospital visitation, you know, almost five years ago i had open heart surgery, a triple bypass. my heart was literally taken outside of my body. i am glad my husband was there for me and that he was able to visit me. for someone to want to take that away is a pretty sick position and very out of the main stream of where the american people are at. the idea that clarence thomas said the supreme court should look at that, now that we know we have an extremist backed supreme court turning over law that is nearly a half century when it comes to something like roe i think everything is at risk especially when clarence thomas wrote it in the decision. it is something we have to be aware of and why house democrats put this bill on the floor today. >> it is a conservative supreme court. part of the knock on congress before this was, listen. you had many years to codify abortion into federal law. many, many years. there seemed to be this feeling
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among lawmakers. maybe among a lot of americans that once the supreme court ruled on it initially, that is the way it would always be and would never come to a place where it was overturned by the supreme court. looking at same sex marriage, contraception, is that the new way forward for lawmakers, for democrats to say, we don't want to even let this get to the supreme court, we're going to make sure we're going to codify all of these basic protections? >> we may have to. unfortunately this is a supremacist packed supreme court. the conservatives packed it. >> i didn't say it was an extremist packed. conservative to be clear. >> those are my words about the extremist packed. the thing is now that we know that this, they're willing to take these actions, they worked for decades to get to the point to be able to do this and now that we know they'll take these actions and clarence thomas will put these in writing and we have members of the house and senate saying they now disagree with that decision you are going to
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take away from half a million americans married and a same sex couple, their rights as a married couple. we have to do things with contraception and other issues because it is weird around here. these days the republican party acts more like a cult than political party. because of that we need to put things that seem to be no brainers and common sense into law to protect people. >> thank you very much for being with us congressman pocan of wisconsin. up next you made it your travel destination but your baggage did not. why you're losing so much baggage and why airlines are losing so much baggage. what exactly is going on and what you should do about it coming up. what you should do about it coming up. when you have technology that's easier to control...
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the number of lost baggage claims is up 30% from 2019. here is nbc news correspondent tom costello who learned this the hard way. >> called everywhere and no one can tell me where it is. >> dublin, amsterdam, london, toronto, new york, washington. >> y'all, this is insane. >> reporter: one traveler tweeting i see london. i see air france. but i don't see my underpants because they're in my suitcase that you left at paris airport 11 days ago. >> we were planning the dream scottish wedding. >> reporter: on july 2th katy herman flew through washington to dublin to glasgow for her wedding and thankfully hand carried her wedding dress. her checked bag with all her other clothes never made it. >> i am getting no updates. it's been over two weeks. the status of my online form has
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not changed. i really have no clue where my bag is. >> reporter: the problem airports and airlines especially in europe don't have the staff to handle the surge in passengers or their bags. the situation is so critical in london delta airlines flew a plane loaded with a thousand bags to detroit. no passengers. meanwhile, in the u.s. volatile summer weather remains the biggest wild card. my flight to denver last week had to abort a landing at the last minute due to dangerous wind shear. forced to divert to cheyenne, wyoming with more than a dozen other planes landing behind us. the captain on our flight said this was the worst wind shear he has seen in 20 years coming into denver and he was literally fighting it as he came up, pulled the nose up, and diverted around denver, forced to go to cheyenne because quite simply we didn't have enough fuel to go anywhere else. >> i am truly sorry for all this but safety is paramount here at
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united airlines. that's what we're going for. >> reporter: after refueling we were too heavy to take off from cheyenne so all of the checked bags had to be bussed to denver. the luggage advice from travel pros avoid checking bags if you can and travel with carry ones. if you do check a bag drop an apple key tag or tracker inside so you can follow it on your cell phone. put i.d.s outside and inside your bag. take photos of your luggage in case it is lost. tom costello, nbc news new york. as an ex-boyfriend once told me, lose the baggage. that's it for me today. peter alexander picks up our coverage next. r me today peter alexander picks up our coverage next.
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