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. following word that president biden tested positive for covid this morning. the news is so far is good. less than an hour ago we got the street showing the president at his desk. he said he is doing great and keeping busy. he just got off the phone with lawmakers in pennsylvania. the president had been scheduled to go to philadelphia for a fundraiser, but that had to be canceled. despite the president's tweet the white house says he is experiencing mild symptoms, which according to the white house covid-19 response coordinator, includes some tiredness, a runny nose, and dry cough. we are expecting to hear more from dr. shaw and the white house press secretary when they speak to the media. we know biden is 79 years old and age is a cause for concern with covid. biden is fully vaccinated and boosted twice. he is also been treated with the antiviral paxlovid, which data shows makes people far less likely to develop severe illness. as we saw that picture the president is working today from the white house residence while following cdc guidance to isolate. i want to bring in mike memoli from the white house, dr. patel

, policy director and msnbc medical contributor, jonathan lemaire. the white house purity for political and host of way too early. and jim messina serve as president obama's white house deputy chief of staff for operations. let me start there. with you, if i can, jim. obviously, it is disquieting if you are member of the white house staff to find out the president who you serve is sick on any level. what you imagine happens now? we were talking earlier with simone standards. do things just kick in? >> they really do. it's amazing after two years he hasn't gotten his earlier. there are huge protocols for all of this stuff. the white house medical facility , the team, and secret service are as good as any people in the world at this. you're right.

it's normal for the staff to say, oh my god, what we do now? they practice this and talked about what would happen if he got it. also using this as a teaching moment to the american public to remind people that this isn't over. even the president of the united states can get covid and will have to take it very seriously. he can be a model of reminding people this is where we are at. we need to take it seriously and take the drugs and move on. >> it's interesting you should say that, because senator bob casey, who was supposed to be seeing the president today, just tweeted i just hung up with potus who sounded great and is in good spirits. he did that tweet with get vaccinated and boosted, everyone. that brings us to what the president had hoped to be doing, which is they had this planned for him to really wrap up traveling and be out there in america.>> that's right. we have seen over the last two months president biden has had a relentless schedule of foreign travel and foreign engagements. he has been to asia, europe, he

has been to the middle east, he has also hosted foreign leaders in los angeles and at the white house. it has been a significant period of time in which the president's schedule has been dominated with foreign-policy. i have to tell you, chris, the white house, especially those looking had midterms and to a potential 20.4 campaign have been looking forward to this moment to finally get president biden back out into the u.s. talking about his domestic agenda, laying out the contrasts to republicans ahead of the midterm elections. he was sent to do that today. a second day in a row in pennsylvania. a dnc fundraiser. next week he was due to have two separate stops in florida. this is a big setback for the white house's efforts and a really sensitive moment. we know the concerned about the president's age, 79, 80 this fall. he will be 82 as he has into a reelection year. the white house has been clear eyed about the fact that the president's age is likely to be a factor in that age.

short of a time machine there's nothing they can do about it. you can only really show, not tell. they were looking forward to, and they still will, of course, in the fall, showcase the president strength as a campaigner. doing hand-to-hand campaigning that he wasn't able to do in his own campaign in 2020 because of kobe. nonetheless, the white house was always one that felt the kind of example they are showing now, the complete transparency of having the president being forthright about his diagnosis and speaking to the country about now the availability of vaccines and treatment is one that will serve them well. >> nobody has better healthcare than the president of the united states i was talking to zeke emanuel about this in the last hour. we have this briefing coming up. obviously, a lot of folks know that the president is doing well. what are you looking for, what questions do you hope will get answered to tell us exactly where he is right now with this

disease at 2:00? >> i will be looking for answers about what people suspect his close contacts are doing. we already heard about dr. jill biden testing negative. many people were around the president two days before his symptoms started. that's how you look backwards. to think about the circle of spread, especially with ba.5. the other thing that's important is to understand what are the critical points. as jim mentioned, they are incredibly, i have rarely seen such protocols that carry someone through campaigning and entire surges. they work. all of us have gone a bit lax. it will be interesting to know who and how, who around the president andy complex campus putting masks back on. what would the president to in five days? in five days he can take an

antigen test. you can't just go out that a mask, but it will give him more freedom of movement. i expect he will be tested often and it will be interesting no if his antigen test is negative in five days. >> the other question, as you well know, especially people who like the present feel like they have been falling protocols, is how did i get this? right? and they start to retrace. is a really any way to know? >> you can. especially with the president, who does have such strict protocols for people around him. the majority of us don't have protocols in place where visitors or our staff around us and weavings have to be tested so frequently. there is a way that they try to understand what is happening. he has had so much travel. we looked back several days and he has done a lot of business trips, but regular domestic functions. at the end of the day, we may never know exactly how the president caught it. ba.5. it's a reminder that it's

the most infectious version of covid we had seen. we have seen infections with it. is a landmark we can actually say he is doing well and taking an oral pill at home and working. and we are at this point. it's great we are here, but it's a reminder for people to test and treat and take it seriously. >> speaking of close contact let mary remind folks what the first lady had to say this morning. i talked to him just a few minutes ago. he is doing fine. he is feeling good. i tested negative this morning. i am going to keep my schedule. i am, according to cdc guidelines, i am keeping masked. >> obviously, people have done much more lax about protocols. i was surprised to read this morning there are still masking mandates on public transportation in new york. i take this away all the time and people are wearing masks on the subway anymore.

talk about the protocols there at the white house. you live it as well as observe it for the staff. >> as cases start to rise we are seeing some more people in the white house wearing masks. it's not required at the moment. is not the rule yet. people are tested who come into close contact with president biden. that has been the case. there are politics at play here as well. the president is a gripping politician who hated being so isolated during the 2020 campaign. he couldn't hold events and couldn't see people. in recent months the white house has plunged back into those. they have held large gatherings outdoors and inside here at the white house. the president just had an aggressive overseas travel. he returned from saudi arabia sunday morning. and his aides made a calculation. the itinerary changed once a month months ago once he saw how contagious these omicron variants were.

their public message and was like, we actually think he probably will at some point, but he will be okay. he has vaccinations and the booster. because of the medicines he could take. that is what we are seeing now. examples are showing us the president, voters of the president and the residence working. odyssey, testimony from lawmakers and officials saying he is in good spirits. i will say, there is some anxiety about that trip yesterday. he had extended face time with the number of lawmakers and officials. most of them not wearing masks. many of them over 70. there are concerns that the present could have potentially been spreading the virus. >> how high is that risk for those folks?>> the risk of contagiousness especially in ba.5, is high even before you

present with symptoms. we try to look backwards and notify people who have been around the president two days before symptoms presented or a positive test, whichever came first. in this case, when we had the president that he felt more tired and more fatigued and off last night those are symptoms. yes. there's a high chance the present was very infections to people around him. and there might have been people around him who had a negative test at that moment, chris, but could have been infectious and gave the president covid. >> jim messina, this is a white house that has taken a lot of hits for its messaging, but, obviously, in the first few hours since he tested positive they have been open and transparent. we are getting information. they are planning to put out more information. we have the tweet from the president, but what would you expect to see and what would you recommend that the american people see in the hours and days to come? >> i think they are doing exactly what they should be doing. i think you're being completely transparent. it's a huge contrast from president trump. when he got this he denied it and didn't want to take the

vaccine shots. it wasn't a big deal until they had to rush him to andrews medical center. the whole thing was a disaster. they're going to be completely transparent and uses, as we talked about earlier, as a teaching moment for the market public. hey, remember, we are still in this. this is a very contagious string of this and will have to pay attention and take these steps. just to be completely transparent and let us know the president is okay, doing his jobs, and doing steps to be safe. >> when you talk about their contrast, you know there are times the pictures came out of the former president when he looked okay and, clearly, wasn't necessarily doing as well as he looked.

would you, if you are in the white house, say, put a video out. happy put a video statement out. what would you say would be a good move, if what they want to present is, yes, it's okay. he's fine. he's working. and we have more than one photo out there.>> more is better. i would do the video. i think it would be smart to have him do a bdo social media. just to be out here talking about his experiences. i thinks that's what you will see, they have been very fast on this. i think they will continue to be on top of this.:let me ask you, jonathan lemaire, because you have been discussing the fact that there was some knowing what the science is and knowing that there chances were most as well is not that he was going to come down with covid at some point. nobody is super surprised about this. we are not where we were a couple of years ago. does it seem like the plant they had in place are all being carried out? would you expect them going

forward exactly as we have so far? >> on a human level there was some surprise this money, some concern among staffers. is the president of the united states. of course, they were worried about him. he is 79 years old. have every expectation he will be fine. it is mild so far. he is receiving the very best medical care anyone could. to this point there protocols are in place. they knew this day would likely come. there was not the ability to keep them isolated to keep him from ever coming in contact with the virus. it's also a way to tell the american people, yes, you have to take precautions. but you can also recover from it but that's what they're hoping to show here. the president will be isolating for least those five days. it remains to be seen when they

will try to get him back out in public, when they will ramp that back up again. sometime next week, depending on how he is feeling and when he tests negative. this is something you have prepared for. one aide told me it has been a run of tough headlines for this white house. this is the last thing they needed right now. i do believe, assuming he recovers, and everybody has every expectation he will, they will weather this storm and be all right.>> thank you. jonathan lemaire, dr. patel, you will stick with me. any moment now we expect to hear from vice president harris to address the president's diagnosis. you're looking at the podium from charlotte. we will have that for you live. plus, we are hours out from the latest january 6th prime-time hearing tonight. what we expect will unfold on the hill. coming up. you are watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. on msnbc flavors, a serene river voyage on an elegant viking longship.

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january 6 committee hearing. tonight is accommodation of a story the committee has been telling for more than a month. this time, focusing on new details and first-hand accounts during the 187 minutes while the insurrection raged and the former president, we are told, simply watched. a few hours ago committee member adam kinzinger drove the point home by releasing a clip of tonight's testimony. it focuses on what trump was doing while the counter was under siege. while his own staff and own family was begging him to call up the mob. >> the best of my recollection he was always in the dining room. >> mr. meadows or the president? >> do you know whether he was watching tv in the dining room when you talk to him on january 6th? >> it's my understanding he was watching television. --

>> all of this comes one new speculation and questions and swirl around the secret service's text messages. the washington post now reports that the dhs inspector general knew months ago that the secret service have erased text from january 6, but chose not to tell congress. whistleblowers inside that office ultimately five to lawmakers, because, quote, not alerting congressional investigators to missing records reduced the chances of recovering critical pieces of evidence related to the january 6 the tactical want to bring in cobble hill correspondent allie vitali. kimberly atkins is a common is for the boston globe and a political analyst. john phil amato is back with us. chuck rosenberg is an msnbc contributor as well as from u.s. attorney and senior fbi official. allie, i want to dig a little more into your great interview about this issue of trump's

dereliction of duty. not a federal crime, but a serious crime in the military. not surprising they would pick two veterans to drive that point home. >> you know when they say that phrase, the dereliction of duty, that for 2 people who served in the armed forces of this country for almost 2 decades that's a phrase that carries even heavier weight but the fact that they are applying it to a former president is not something lost on congressman lori when i talked to her yesterday. she painted an early preview of a damning picture that they're going to put on display tonight in these prime-time hearings focused on chaos and violence at the capitol. and complete in action at the white house listen to what she told me. >> we are going to paint, essentially, yes, a picture of in action. he was seeing the violence right when he got back to the white house. if you are president wouldn't you just jump into action and call everyone in your administration, cabinet, who,

come in and help quell this? >> a question that she poses there is at the very center of what the committee is going to try to paint tonight the idea that even as people around the former president urging him that he had to do something to quell the violence that he was, as that says, sitting in the dining room and watching television. to that point, lori told me they are going to use false news footage, one of the former president's favorite channels, to show that he was seeing those images. drawing a direct line and trying to establish much of the mindset of the former president as they possibly can as they put him at the center of everything. we have talked often about the fact that these secret service text messages, all of these different pieces of the investigation are still happening even as the committee is still bringing in new witnesses and doing new

testimony. all of this underscores the point that while tonight might be a finale of sorts for the committee in this timeline of its investigation, congresswoman gloria told me they still have a lot more to do and a lot more to say on this hearing topic and on this larger issue of january 6. >> obviously, tonight is not the last of it. talk, let's talk about what we are going to hear tonight. does dereliction of duty play into building an external case against trump in any way? >> generally, no. i think that's exactly right, the law, generally, does not impose criminal liability for failing to act. there could be exceptions. maybe for an ent way police officer or child social worker or lifeguard, imagine a situation where they're supposed to do something on their training and they refuse. that said, it's absolutely immoral. article 2 of the constitution, section 3, says the president shall take care that the laws are faithfully executed. not may take care, my take care, occasionally take care,

shall take care. the failure to do that, if not an impeachable offense, and it wouldn't be here, because he is no longer present, is a moral failing. it has political dimensions to it. the law does not impose criminal liability for failing to do so.>> jonathan, what we won't hear about are what is in these missing secret service texts. right? i heard you talking about this earlier and reminding us that the secret service isn't just some random other government agency. this is a law-enforcement agency. as such they should know how to preserve evidence. why does it sound like this was something that was, i don't know, just left up to age's discretion? >> this is hard to explain. even being charitable here and taking the secret service as their word seems grossly irresponsible. yes. any government record for any agency should be preserved. that's how the federal records act works. more than that, especially in a significant moment such as jenn reed, and sixth, the secret

service having been so close to what happened. there was the price vice president who was trying to evacuate him from the capital as the mob tried to find him and hurt them. there were the agents with president trump at the ellipse. and those would be back at the white house that could also testify an account with the present was doing those 187 minutes. they are law enforcement agency. one that should be preserving evidence. the timeline is so damning. the data migration was that once in advance. no one questioned that they got repeated warnings before january 6th through preserve records. january ends and that a request from congress about a week or so after january 6th to say, we need to get those texts. yet, the data migration went ahead anyway a full week later. it raises an extraordinary

amount of questions on the word cover-up is being thrown around a lot but i know you have other reporting to do. i'm going to thank you and go over to chuck on this. as i said before, it now appears the dhs watchdog to these texts work on, but didn't tell congress for months. potentially making it even less likely they can be found. listen to this. quote, the secret service has claimed it can no longer recover text messages. that brings ted cruz and amateur sleuth into action. they are busy postulating about the potential ways to recover those lost texts. one of the things we always hear, we tell it to our teenagers, anything you put into cyberspace is never lost forever. do you think they are recoverable? suck maybe they found a way to crowd source a solution. let me give you another perspective on it.

i don't know what platform they use. i don't know if they are recoverable. a text message goes from one center to at least one recipient. they may be forwarded. someone may take a screenshot. it's possible that by talking to lots and lots of people you can reconstruct some of what was lost perhaps on one phone, but saved on another. remember this, by talking to the agents you have another source of information about what they wrote and what they saw and what they perceived and what they heard that day. it's not like the text messages are the only way to get you there. yeah, we should try to find them . if they are recoverable that would be great. you can also talk to these people. their law-enforcement officers. they are under oath and have an obligation to tell you the truth. >> the questions surrounding these text messages can be another thing the committee has on its plate. overall, their goal is to make this as nonpartisan as possible. liz cheney and adam kinzinger have been key to that, because

they, help democrats understand better how to frame their arguments to appeal to open- minded republicans and make a politically charged inquiry less partisan. has that happened, do you think? what are you hearing? what are you seeing? >> yeah. i mean, i think that there are universe of people who didn't have their mind made up before these hearings. that's probably rather small. i do think that both congressman kissing her and vice chair cheney have done a good job in just being methodical and being thorough and presenting this case piece by piece to the american people in a way that, not only is easily understandable, but draws a clear line to what happened on january 6th two donald trump i think that is the biggest asset of them.

i think people know they are republicans, but just the two republicans that are willing to speak publicly against donna.at this point. i think that takes a little bit of punch out of this idea that this is a bipartisan effort. i think the fact it has been such a thrill, such methodical effort is something that, i think, if there were persuadable people out there, people with open minds, probably working the committee's favor. >> among the millions who expect to be watching tonight, i was a come merrick garland and his staff, because he said they are watching this very closely. let me play some new sound from merrick garland talking about the doj's investigation into all of this. >> this is the most wide- ranging investigation and the most important investigation the justice department has ever entered into. we have to get this right. we had to do two things. we have to hold every person who is criminally responsible for trying to overturn an election and we must do it in a

way with integrity and professionalism. the way the justice department conducts investigations. >> can you unpack that a little bit? it seems like he chose his words very carefully. >> yeah. it felt to me like the attorney general is a thing, generally, hey, listen, all the people that are think that the doj isn't moving fast enough don't know what we are doing. we are working on it. trust us. knock it off. these things take time. he framed them as the biggest investigation ever come essentially. that involves so many more people, including the former president. that they are working, he understands people are impatient, but they're going to have to try to find patients somewhere. >> we know right now the vice president is going to microphone. i might have to cut you off. last question to you, we learned today another former

trump staffer came before the january 6th committee and used the opportunity to throw out racist and sexist slurs. i would try to get back to you, but let's listen to the vice president. the president, i talked to this morning on my way here and he said tell everybody hello. he knew why i was here, which is to talk about what we are doing to connect folks with high-speed internet. and the work that we are doing in washington d.c., the work that we are doing in terms of policy work, it's not real until it hits the streets. it's not real until will people have the ability to take advantage of what we hope will help them uplift their lives. connectivity, if you will, between what we do washington, dc and it hitting the streets of charlotte are people like let tiffany. she makes all the difference.

please applaud her. before i begin, i do want to speak about our incredible president, joe biden. this morning and i spoke by phone. he is in good spirits. he is feeling well. he is doing well. he is fully vaccinated and twice boosted. of course, he is. as everyone we encourage is eligible would do the same. he is working through the white house residence. when we spoke he was very pleased, as i said, that we are all here together today talking about the work our administration is doing on behalf of parents and working families and all who deserve to be seen and heard. with that, it is good to be with everyone today. the great governor, roy cooper. where is roy? he was here earlier. he has been with me all morning.

i have to tell you, roy cooper -- >> vice president kamala harris consistent with white house messaging. she says she spoke to the president this morning and he is feeling well and doing well. he says to say hello to everyone. he is working from the white house for my folks that just about half an hour from now we are expecting a full update on the president's condition. allie, let me go back to tonight's hearing. look, there have been a lot of moments, including people screaming and yelling and six hour-long meetings, but we learned today another former trump staffer, as i said moments ago, came before the general six committee and throughout racist and sexist words. i think it was like a 27 minute virtual soliloquy. what else have we heard about that? is that what has been going on? some of these witnesses are really not happy to be there and determined to be heard in a

very unfortunate way. >> look, we have seen, as part of committee testimony, right, conversations about what the former president did when you mentioned catchup down the wall. this is someone who is a lower- level staffer who we reported came before the committee for a taped testimony interview last week, i believe, or earlier this week but things blend together at this week. part of the active investigation. what i was struck by was the fact that as he went on a tirade against the committee, which, frankly, is not new, because we have seen multiple people in this white house try to discredit the committee by speaking about them in partisan terms and trying to downplay the work that they are doing what i was struck by from this low level white house aide, is the way that he went at his female colleagues and former female colleagues from the white house who then come forward speaking about the

people engendered and sexist terminology. of the men have also cooperated with this committee and omission of them, although they even worked at the height white house. striking out against the women who worked in the trump white house. certainly, that's the threat we have been following this entire time. the committee in the aftermath of that cassidy hutchinson terrell testimony looked at the way some people try to discredit her under oath and in public testimony. they saw shades of sexism and gender is him in that. certainly, this is a thread we have been following from some in trump world, as they look at the women who are leading the charge here, both liz cheney on the republican side, cassidy hutchinson, now sarah matthews tonight. and try to discredit them in many different ways that feel a little bit sexist to those of us watching. >> and a little too familiar. thank you all very much white

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we are waiting for the white house briefing on the news that president biden tested positive for covid. the white house says he is experiencing mild symptoms. he has been a little tired, has a runny nose, and a dry cough. the vice president spoke to him and he is doing well. the folks at the white house briefing will include the coronavirus response coordinator and white house press secretary. again, scheduled for the top of the hour. i want to bring back in bc's mike memoli from the white house, dr. patel, and intimacy medical contributor. also join me from the white house senior advisor, andy slavitt. and also dr. michael poster home. i understand you have been in touch with dr. shaw ahead of this briefing. can you share what you learned or what we will learn shortly? >> first of all, the president is fine and doing well. effectively, this is a strong reminder that the tools we have, vaccinations, paxlovid,

doing regular testing, are really important for all of us. if he had have been doing regular testing i don't think he would even know he had been infected. he is isolating, as he should be. most importantly, these are tools that a lot of americans haven't taken advantage of yet but i think people will be good shape if they do. >> you are president biden's senior advisor for covid response in the early months of his presidency. you know how this works in this white house. high level of confidence about the protocols they have in place, in spite of the fact that he tested positive? >> yes but they have been prepared for something like this to happen. the president likes to mix it up. he is a regional politician. he is not going to be staying inside all the time but they have prepared protocols. they are ready. he is very fit and in great health and i hear he is doing great.

>> dr. poster home, everybody who works in that white house said that this is something that has never gone away, even as the american people have moved on. the white house has moved on. it's part of the conversation on a daily basis. given all of that, what does it tell us about the transverse ability of this subvariant that even the most careful among us are getting it? >> well, in fact, it is a highly infectious by respect the most infectious of all the covid viruses we have dealt with. i think it also really illustrates the importance of why, number one, we want to be having people use in 95 respirators. the really tight face fitting filtering masks. i have seen a lot of shots at the white house and among other political events were people did not have on an n-95. they had on facecloth coverings, which are very little protection. we have understand this thing is so infectious, this is probably nothing more than an elevator ride towards exposure today. we have understand that for people who think they are in

the same room if there more than 5 feet away, i remind people if you smoke cigarettes in a room can you smell it 10 feet away from somebody smoking? the answer is often yes but that's an aerosol. that's the same risk of getting here. that's how infectious this is in that environment. >> we're told that lawmakers are keeping close tabs on their own health. that includes senator markey and warren who were with him yesterday. i would assume that would be unsurprising if some of the folks who were around him tested positive, may be surprising if no one did. >> it would be a shock if no one did. i suspect not only will people test positive, but this speaks to how it feels like it's a random. it might not be the lawmakers. mib and attendant with the president, even though they were tested negative in the moment. and has to help the president was something. there are so many people and points of contact, especially when a president as active as him moves around.

some of the people around him could have been sick but given him the infection without even understanding and having a negative test at the time you can still test negative and have the virus and i'll be positive for days. >> i know you actually have a day job, dr. patel. i'm going to thank you. understand briefing has been pushed back by a few minutes. >> that's right. it's worth noting, who is going to be the briefing and who isn't. we know it's going to be jean- pierre, the white house press secretary, who was traveling with the president yesterday on air force one as well as marine one. also, dr. shaw, who is the white house covid coordinator. we will not hear from dr. kevin o'connor, who is the president's chief physician,

the head of the white house medical unit. i'm told i white house official dr. o'connor has given dr. shaw a full download of the president's treatment, of his care at this moment. dr. shaw will be able to treat and speak to some of the issues that might be raised in terms of his treatment going forward. we know, for instance, that because of a very detailed physical report that was released last week, last year, excuse me, by the white house, the president is on a blood thinner. there is questions about whether paxlovid, which is being given, might be in conflict with the president's existing medications. that something that the dr. will speak to, having spoken with dr. o'connor and getting a full download, as it was put to me, from him. it's worth noting that the resident staff in the white house, of course, the president will be isolating in the residence, has been reduced to the bare minimum. only essential individuals at this point. that is similar to what happened when president trump was in the white house and himself was diagnosed with covid.

it's worth asking, i think, in the briefing we will hear a number of questions to john peter and others, how with the present about his day job as the white house continues to stress that it will be business as usual with a close eye on his symptoms. will he be given briefings in person, perhaps outside on the truman balcony and other places in the white house? or will all be conducted virtually? . as of now we are waiting for those kinds of answers. . the white house will try to keep that transparency. . i suspect that's not the last we will see or hear from the president by the end of the day pick a couple of questions come to my mind. based on what mike memoli just reported, what can you tell us about the relationship between somebody who is on a blood thinner and then takes paxlovid?>> they will remove the other drugs that might be a

contraindication to using the paxlovid. and all the ones that he is on, statins or blood thinner, or ones that can be released a week or two not being used but they'll be just fine. the important thing is to get the paxlovid. that is what he is getting right now. >> andy, i'm also curious, because mike just said there reducing the number of people who might be around the president. i assume among those who need to be around the president, in spite of the fact he has tested positive, would be kevin o'connor from the white house medical unit. what are the protocols that are in place, generally, if you have a situation like that were people need to be around someone who has tested positive for covid? i think the protocols are very similar to what they are for the rest of us, which is if you're experiencing symptoms, if you're testing positive then you shouldn't be around other people. you will infect them. and then wearing a well fitting

n-95 or equivalent mask is appropriate. if you're in contact with people. the white house is prepared for all the work to continue to get done. we are all used to being able to do things by phone and virtually. he is feeling well and is up to it and wants to stay engaged. there's very few limitations, other than the fact that they want to keep them isolated. >> i also want to bring a chief white house correspondent for the new york times and nbc news political analyst peter baker. peter, this is really where both the political and the medical collide. i'm talking about the president's age. that's something you wrote extensively about a couple of weeks ago, although all the days went together for me. maybe it was just a few days ago. talk about the political applications a little more about the president's age and

the concerns that the white house staff has given the politics surrounding his age.>> obviously, it's not what the white house would have wanted. they are already struggling with this issue. he is a 79-year-old man, the oldest president we have ever had, a year older than country to keep him in office until he's 86 years old. as mike memoli said earlier, there's no time machine that's going to put him back in time. the best thing to do is show him as an active, vigorous president as best they can. one thing they wanted to do was put him back out on the road, get him out there campaigning where he could meet and greet and enjoy the crowd. obviously that will put that off, at least for a few days. in the end, as long as he gets through this the next few days and it's not a serious -- more serious situation than it appears to be now, we'll all move on. the question is can he get

through this next period safely and healthy. >> i asked the medical experts what they would ask at this briefing and i sat at the briefing room with you many, many times during the obama administration. if you were in the briefing room today, what would be your question or questions for dr. jha or dr. pierre? >> every white house confronts issues of the president's health. there's a long history of white houses obscuring details about the president's health. they prom used to be transparent, and will show they'll be different than other white houses. i think this will be the first chance for them to show that they're going to be different. >> so thank you for that. i want to bring in on the phone pennsylvania senator bob casey.

senator casey was supposed to see president biden during his visit to pennsylvania later today. a trip of course that had to be cancelled after the president's covid diagnosis. senator, it's good to talk to you. what was your conversation with the president like? >> chris, thanks very much. it was a good conversation. he just wanted to call to make sure that i knew about his travel schedule because i was going to be with him traveling to northeastern pennsylvania, but he sounded great and the first thing he wanted to do was to begin to work to reschedule the trip. we hope we can do that rather soon. but obviously the next couple of days. we talked about the trip and also about getting it rescheduled. and the second thing he asked about, as he always does, was asked about my family as opposed to what was going on in washington. so it was a good conversation. >> you know him very well, you've known him for a very long

time. anything in that conversation that would suggest to you beyond good spirits that he has any concerns. >> no. nothing at all. and as i said, he's looking forward to getting the trip back on schedule because i was looking forward to it. it would have been a good stop in lucern county, not far from our hometown of scranton. >> i think the last time i saw you was in lucern county. >> there are tight races in the senate. how important from a political standpoint is it for the president to get back out there to help you and fellow democrats in pennsylvania and elsewhere? >> i think it's going to be important and i also think it's going to be critical even beyond the campaign just that he is able to convey some of the work that he's done to get costs down for families, to invest in infrastructure. we're going to get $13 billion

from pennsylvania just for roads and bridges. that's not counting the broadband money and the american rescue plan, so many ways he's helped pennsylvania. that's obviously going to be significant in the campaign but even apart from campaigning he's going to be able to make the case about how he's determined to help people be a keep costs down for families. >> any time someone you know or like is testing positive, there's a certain nervousness, that's natural. but after talking to him, do you feel confident about his health and his ability to recover, senator? >> no question about it. obviously he's got to wait five days but i think he'll be out there soon. >> senator bob casey, it's good for you to call us and we appreciate you taking the time to be on the phone. andy slavitt, peter baker, thanks to all of you once again.

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good to be with you. i'm katy tur. president biden is experiencing mild symptoms after he tested positive for covid today. we were expecting a press conference right about now with an update from the white house press secretary and white house covid czar dr. ashish jha. biden is taking an anti-viral drug while he isolates. the president's physical, kevin o'connor, says he is experiencing fatigue, a runny nose and an occasional dry cough. biden put out this tweet showing him working at his desk. he said he's doing great behind is keeping busy. the president was scheduled to fly to pennsylvania today for a gun violence speech and then travel to his home in wilmington. this is him from yesterday. though that is not. both of those trips have been cancelled. vice president harris has tested negative. she was last with the president on tuesday. the first lady, who is a close contact, is also t