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and switch to xfinity mobile. a very good day to all of you from msnbc world headquarters here in new york. welcome everyone to alex witt reports. we begin with some breaking news from the war in ukraine. the state department is confirming that two american citizens have died in the donbas region. u.s. citizens -- they declined to give details, president zelenskyy says he met in kyiv with a delegation, including adam smith, along with congressman mike quigley, congresswoman mikie sherrill, and republican congressman michael waltz. congressman smith later shared some photos of the visit on his twitter account.
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and we also have some new reactions today to the january six committee hearings. as questions arise whether there should be a criminal investigation. when congresswoman as describes as the hearing serves as a scary reminder of what was happening as the riot unfolded. >> it was incredibly terrifying that day. we all in the gallery thought that we were going to die. there are hundreds of members of congress, we were five hours stuck in a room. we were frantic. there were bullet holes, there was glass all over everywhere. >> some new word today on president biden's condition three days after testing positive for covid. a new letter just out moments ago from the president's doctor. we'll take you to the white house in just minutes for what's new. and vice president harris in richmond, virginia, meeting with state legislators to discuss reproductive rights. she will travel to indianapolis on monday to meet the legislators there. well the doctor who performed
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an abortion on a ten year old rape victim is speaking out today. we're gonna bring you more on that, later on. and the dog days of summer bearing down on the u.s., from the central plains to the mid-south and northeast. heat advisories and warnings are in effect. for more on all of those headlines, joining us right now we have nbc's allie raffa on capitol hill -- analysts mclaughlin is bearing out the heat, there, in dallas. welcome to all of. you ali, we'll go to you first, with some new reaction to this week's january 6th hearings. what are you hearing on capitol hill? >> yeah, alex, we know the committee is in this month long break until they return in september for possibly more hearings. we know that during this break, the really taking an inventory on web information they already have. but they still need to dig deeper into. who they still want to hear testimony from and ask questions to. and numbers are really dropping some clues as to what we could hear in future hearings. they're saying, expect some
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testimony from secret service agents, of course, as the committee tries to find out more information about those since deleted text messages. witnesses are still coming forward after every hearing with new information that could really put some more meat on the bones of the committees argument that the former president was criminally responsible for the attack on the capitol on january six. we know of course that the committee cannot formally charge the president with anything, that's left to the justice department. congresswoman -- had some had something to shed on this specific topic, let's listen. >> i sure is hell hope that merrick garland has an open criminal investigation into donald trump. what we've laid out their, no one needs to wait for some formality from our committee to have that ball in motion. >> so of course, as the committee wraps up this investigation, eyes are turning to the justice department. we heard ag garland say earlier
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this week that no and is above the law not even a former president. >> speaking about not being above the, let me ask you about yesterday when the jury found steve bannon on two counts of contempt of congress. -- what is next for the trump loyalist? >> yeah, this was a very big deal especially for the january six committee because, remember, they've had to dodge and weave around these former, current allies of the former president, who could be such a key witnesses to the committee's investigation, but have been been willing to face criminal charges for refusing to comply with subpoenas. so even the bannon is a planning on appealing this verdict and fighting this charge, the committee is still calling this a victory, saying no one is above the law not even steve bannon. now bannon's first former -- to formally be charged criminally [inaudible]
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for the subpoenas, as far as now we expect him to be formally sentenced in late october, alex, he faces a minimum of 30 days and a maximum of two years behind bars. >> okay, allie raffa, thank you for the very latest from capitol hill, we'll see you again. joining us right now is madeleine dean, a democratic member of the house judiciary and financial services committee, she is also a impeachment -- i like to introduce her as a good friend to us. welcome, let me go back to thursday night. as i was watching the live coverage of the hearing, immediately afterwards, would my viewers we're seeing right now is what we were playing, as well, you are approaching the capitol police officers who were attacked on january six. they were sitting right there in the front row. i immediately wanted to know why you said to them, and what they shared with you about how they think all the testimony has gone? >> well it's good to be with you today, and as always, alex,
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i have been attending these hearings, and i guess, each time, i try the and to say hello and to thank the capitol police officers for their presence there, but of course for their service. i really see them as people who represent all of those who defended and protected us that day. i've gotten to be text friends with sergeant gonell, who are showing their, and he shared his feeling as to what happened to him, that he is forced into retirement as a result of his hearings on the toll it's taken on his family. i remember in particular something that he said to me after the hearing with cassidy hutchinson. the only word he could say, when we redid each other was, betrayal. the betrayal of a president. the horrifying betrayal. and so i just treat them each time to say thank you to your service, thank you for standing for us and representing all of
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those with whom you serve. >> i'm sure glad you said that to them, it surely echoes the sentiments of so many of us. let me ask you about thursday's hearing, what happened before, we were just watching their. it took a pretty deep dive about with the former president was doing, or not doing, entering the hundred 87 minutes at the capitol when it was under attack. what stands out most you. how does it make you and your colleagues feel knowing that while your lives were in danger inside that chamber, trump chose to do absolutely nothing but watch the violence unfold? >> well to your point, it was an absence of actions that -- but actually those were active choices by that president. what he did was an active dereliction of duty. and some of the things that are staggering to me was his tearing down of all of the guardrails. we have this huge gap in the call logs. we have this gaping gap in the diary. we have the missing text
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messages of the secret service. we see that he's seated for hours in that private space, right off the oval office, watching fox news. not allowing the presidential photographer in. this was a lot of choices by this president, without a single phone call to those who were in the wake of attack. you think about it. you and i, i don't think any of us could see that if someone within our orbit was under harm's threat, where would you do? you don't have to be president of the united states. you'd, khalid say, mike, are you are all right? what can i do? it's inconceivable to any of us that this president -- he had one thing in mind, it was the protection of himself and his power. he didn't care who got in the way. he didn't care who got injured. he couldn't say i am so sorry for the loss of life that day. i never intended this to
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happen. because he was the arsonist. he set the fire. he lit the fuse. and as we heard in the testimony, he poured gasoline on the fire with his tweet. >> listening to what you just put it there, let anyone would do, is a complete and utter lack of decency for your fellow man. it is absolutely stunning. we also saw was the committee highlighting wet josh hawley was doing during the riots. let's take a look at some of that. here it is. >> as you can see in this photo, he raised his fist in solidarity with the protesters. they were already massing at the security gates. we spoke to police officer who was out there at the time. she told us that senator hawley's gesture riled up the crowd. it bothered her greatly, because he was doing it in a safe space, protected by the officers and the barriers. later that day, senator hawley
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fled after those protesters he helped to rile up storming the capital. see for yourself. so the committee has repeatedly demonstrated the hypocrisy of republican lawmakers on that day, and beyond. do you think voters are going to turn against lawmakers, like holly and others whose actions don't always add up, particularly on the issue of law and order? republicans, as you know, have tried to co-opt that concept as an issue that they own. and yet look! >> i have to tell you, two things, my reaction to that video. how self serving with that pose, with the fist raised under the protection of capitol police? as he went in to challenge the
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electors for his state of missouri? he was warned by mitch mcconnell in late december, don't do that. i've heard of your plans to challenge the electors, remember it was he who is participating along with donald trump, when he made that challenge to missouri electors. we'll have to tell you is, in the room, there was no audio with that video, there haven't been a lot of laughs, alex, as you might imagine, in these eight hearings. the whole room laughed at the absurdity, the silliness of this strong senator fleeing, fleeing for his life through the halls, because of something that he helped set in motion. >> interesting. committee vice chair liz cheney said that more hearings are coming in september. giving the amount we've gotten so far, and now the promise we've -- promised american, do you think it's hurtling towards accountability at the polls, or in the courts?
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are both? >> i'm so pleased it so clear that the committee has much more evidence to sift through every day, when i'm on the floor and chatting with anyone of these extraordinary members of congress. they tell me more and more information is coming in every single day. powerful, valuable information. so pleased. we will learn more. they're cataloging for history, the corruption of this president. the descent to which he's taken us, and farther dissents, more basements to come, if he's ever given any authority, any type of elected office. i do you think that a lot an awful lot is going on, certainly the supreme court's corrupt decision in dobbs, the precarious nature of our democracy and the president, the former president, and his callous corruption to hold on to power -- i think all of those things will influence the elections coming up. i know, in my district, people are motivated around the dobbs
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decision. the tearing away of rates. they're horrified by the actions and choices, the choices and actions, day after day, as you put it, indecency, not to mention criminal behavior of a president. those things are motivating to my constituents in pennsylvania, in the fourth congressional district. and i'm certain that they will be paying attention to the governor race, -- will be elected, and john fetterman will be elected to our senate. >> i should say to you both in action and word, you've been out there demonstrating, i know you got arrested for good cause. let me ask you one more thing, though. when you mention the prospect of a trump candidacy, or a presidency, another one, there's a new report from axios and it details a radical plan for trump's second term. reshaping the federal government by putting thousands of civil servants and filling career posts with loyalist to trump and his america first
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ideology, the report includes plans to strip layers of the justice department. that includes the fbi. as shocking as this report is, does any of it surprise you? and between this, and the 16 hearings, do you think americans are better understanding the dangers around the prospect of another trump presidency? >> i certainly hope so. we can tell from the viewership of these hearings, the people are paying attention. i'm talking, not just democrats, but republicans, independents, every witness that we have heard from. they were very loyal, they were family members, loyal to the former president, wanting him to succeed. so, when we see these radical plans, we have seen the most radical, corrupt, criminal behavior by president. what more do people need to see or to know? and let's remember, president trump lost the popular vote in his first election. he lost by a huge number in the
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second election. so his numbers are only going to go down, please god, but i hope he's never the nominee. please, republican party, take control of your party back. this is the most indecent man ever elected to any office. but certainly ever elected to the highest office. he should not be brought back. he is not qualified to run for any office, all included dog catcher, it would be unkind to dogs. >> all right i thank you for the chuckle. pencil -- pennsylvania senator diane, thank you very much. we'll have more with the rachel maddow -- we'll be talking about what the committee may be investigating, and the prospect of criminal charges of donald trump. first the breaking news from the white house, and new information of -- let's go with mary barrett, first of all with welcome to
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you how is you doing? doctor kevin o'connor said that while the president symptoms are improving, there are additional symptoms of a sore throat and a body ache, in addition to runny nose and cough that we knew about. if i may read directly from the letter, it notes that the president continues to tolerate treatment well, we will continue with paxlovid as planned, his sentence will continue to be treated supportively with oral hydration, tylenol and the albuterol inhaler that he uses as needed for cough, he is experiencing no shortness of that birth at all. -- sequencing has also comeback it notes that they have sent out samples which samples of covid he has and list that is most likely the ba.5 variant. this is the variant that is responsible for 75 to 80% of infections in the united states at this time.
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we have seen, in recent, weeks an increase in hospitalizations and deaths as well. now that we know it's most likely that variant, there is more clarity on what the president might be experiencing. you are seeing on your screen the most recent images we have the president just yesterday, making calls, tweeting out these photos with the mask on. he also enjoyed his economic advisers. we have not seen any photos or videos of the president today. just the contents of this letter. we have not heard directly from dr. o'connor. but doctor fauci spoke to him lace last night. -- here's what he told them. >> the president because is doing really quite well. i had a long conversation last night at around 10:00 with dr. kevin o'connor, the primary physician for the president. the president continues to improve. he's putting in a full day of work virtually. as each day goes by, he's doing
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fine. got >> doctor fauci said earlier this morning, congruent will vote we see in the letter in the last couple of minutes, doctor fauci noted that the president is not experiencing any shortness of breath. that was a concern. in the past, because the president has experienced asthma, he's used to using an inhaler as a normal thing for him to use when he has a respiratory theft infection. obviously this is day two of his isolation. he will continue that isolation over the next few days. alex >> thank you for that. let's go to some breaking news got from the world health organization, now declaring the monkeypox outbreak of international concern. it is the group's highest earlier level, last declared for covid in january of 2020. today's designation means that the w.h.o. now regards monkeypox a global health
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threat recurring international response. -- researchers say europe has 80% of confirmed infections. the u.s. has more than 2500 cases so far. americas dangerous scorching summer, dozens of records for heat that this week alone. if the heat wave is due to climate change, how would president biden's new actions on climate actually help?
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we are back with a weather alert. tens of millions of americans are trying to stay safe and stay cool, as an intense summer heat waves is dangerous and deadly conditions from coast to coast. today several central and southern states are facing the most extreme heat with multiple alerts throughout this weekend. temperatures reaching into the triple digits in several parts of the u.s. today, and those scorching numbers are going to extend in many places --
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mclaughlin joins us from dallas, where it's definitely in the middle of the heat wave. liz, welcome, how are they handling the heat? >> alex, dallas is just baking right now. we'll tell you when you get into those triple digits, it's just inescapable. i think i'm from the south, i think i'm used to it, and i'll tell you it's just brutal. you feel the breeze below, and it doesn't provide relief. it feels like a heater blowing on. you can see some kids behind me, they're getting some relief by running through the sprinklers here. it's hard enough just to stand outside, but if you can imagine, there was a five k this morning, 2000 runs came out to run a five k. in this brutal heat. we spoke to some of those runners about how they did it, let's listen. >> how do you manage in this weather? >> slow down, and hydrate. and had friends the hang out with. >> high. >> is this the word summer
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you've seen? or normal? >> probably in a while. it's really been hot and humid. yeah. >> do you run all the time? yes. run all the time. >> outside? . the >> u.s.. ? how do you do it. . slow down and drink lots of water. >> i've spoken to a few dallas locals. you get used to it after a while, but some are talking about moving. it has been brutal. we've seen 27 days in the triple digits. normally that's what they see in a whole year. that's happened even before the hottest part of the summer has happened as of yet. and we are seeing, also, that there is records being broken, temperatures 109 degrees, 109 this week. 101 is what it's expected to be today. there's just no relief in sight, here. we can talk about the heat without talking about climate change. it's just getting more and more common, and more frequent drought periods.
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49 consecutive days without rain, alex? >> oh my goodness. let me just add a couple of points. new york city has a triathlon schedule for tomorrow. they're still hard holding it, but it's going to be abbreviated. boston said, no thanks, we're canceling arts that was scheduled for tomorrow. my last point is you look great despite the heat, i don't know what you're doing, but good on you. joining me right now is lisa predawn, reporter from the new york times climate desk. lisa, welcome to. first question, how much of the heat we were going through right now as part of the bigger climate issue? >> thanks for having me. look, climate change is intensifying heat waves, and we're seeing it across not just the united states, but europe right now. it's an testifying that frequency, and, you know, we are seeing millions of americans under heat advisory warnings across the country. every year countries are seeing the record temperatures being
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shattered. >> that's for sure. something that we noted you wrote about was the president's executive order. 2.3 billion dollars from fema to help communities affected by severe weather. let's take a listen to what he said. >> this is an emergency. i will look at it that way. i said last week, i'll say it again loud and clear. as president to use my executive powers to combat climate crisis, in the absence of congressional action. what is the most action he could take without congressional action? we're getting effect the most profound change? >> you know, a lot of people are talking about a national climate emergency. unlocking the powers of presidential authority to stop oil leasing, if you chose to, on federal waters, or deployed money for renewable energy. although i would say that many energy experts say that the president has a tremendous
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amount of authority now, and are calling for a speed up of regulations on things like oil and gas wells, power plants, cars, that can start to reduce the emissions that are necessary to avoid the worst consequences of climate change. >> but this isn't just our problem. you know, firsthand, you've reported from the bottom of a chinese coal mine. you've gone to the top of the snow kept himalayan mountains. how can the u.s. realistic really get this under control given that it is a global chime. many countries like china are building more coal mines to the detriment of the planet? >> it is a vicious circle. we cannot do this without china. china also cannot do this without us. the united states, we recently saw the downfall of an enormously piece of climate legislation. other countries are watching. that other countries are looking at the united states. i've talked to diplomats from other nations in the past few
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days. a lot of people are saying, if the united states can't do it, how can they convince other countries to do it? so i think that is part of the a normal challenge as the u.s. struggles to move forward, climate legislation, or climate executive actions -- what we do reverberates around the world. and what we don't do reverberates round the world. >> 100 percent. we lead by example, we've done that for so long, for better or for worse. lisa friedman, thank you so much we appreciate your time with us and this topic is never going away at least not for long. time >> meantime the january 6th hearings -- have they covered enough to convince the nation and the justice department of donald trump's guilt, what is next in the committees probe. the committees probe. each of including tb.
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stops stories. the state department confirming to americans have died in ukraine in the country's eastern donbas region. no word about their identities or what they were doing in ukraine. it comes as a same day as russian missile strikes has the port of odessa, one day after russian ukraine came to an agreement of green exports in the reach. and -- you could see those flames erupting from the turbine. the blades kept spinning, but eventually the entire structure goes down. no one was hurt in that fire or in the storm that ignited that turbine. a second booster shot of the covid-19 is on hold for people under 50, while the biden administration focuses its effort of them on an updated vaccine. -- from there, now to the january 6th hearings on the next row expected in september. in the eighth hearing this week, the committee reconstructed the
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internal struggle that ensued during the hundred and 87 minutes between donald trump's speech and his for 17 pm to go home and go in peace. trump's defiance to condemn the rioter and failure to admit the election was over continue to the next day. here are some outtakes. >> i would like to begin by addressing the heinous attack yesterday, and to those who broke the law, you will pay. you do not represent our movement. you do not represent our country. if you broke the law,, you can't say that. i already say you will pay. this election is now over. congress had certified the results. i want to say the election is over. i just want to say congress has certified the results. without saying the election is over okay? >> okay. well. my next guest live blog that of
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-- suggested that it could be -- we've seen all the eight episodes through thursday season finale of the hearings. was it a cliff-hanger for you in any way? has the whodunnit aspect been settled and is it time for the department of justice to take action? >> let me take those in pieces. i certainly saw a great deal of evidence that donald trump and his close allies, both within and outside the white house, knew that there was a capacity of violence, took that violence and when they knew the violence was happening, did nothing to stop it. that's certainly enough to give doj the start of an investigation. it is not for me to say whether or not merrick garland is going to prosecute donald trump. anybody who pretends to know whether than he's going to or, not none of us really know. but there is definitely enough
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for the doj to start an investigation. there are certainly a bunch of open questions i have. one of them is the role of mike flynn and roger stone, two notable allies of the president, who were prosecuted during his presidency and later pardoned by him. we know that both of them that close associations with the oath keepers and the proud boys. we also know from the hearings that on the evening of january 5th, cassidy hutchinson testified that she knew mark meadows went to speak to flynn and stone at the presidents urging. and of course we know what happened on the january 6th the next day. thanking up those efforts and wondering whether flynn and stone are the linchpin to what's jamie raskin calls the conversion of efforts -- and donald trump on the other, that's an open question that i have. >> it is a very good question. the answer to which is going to
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be difficult given who you're dealing with, mike flynn and roger stone, both of whom are absolute trump loyalists, fanatics to a degree. trying to find out from then what transpired would be very challenging. the committee, showed how donald trump from the comfort and security of the white house dining room, watched his supporters attacked the capitol live on tv. at the same time, the vice presidents secret service details were fearing for their lives. members of congress were donning gas masks, looking for cover, law enforcement officers were brutally attacked. here's some testimony on trump's behavior at that time. >> are you aware that a phone call by the president of the united states to the secretary of defense that day? >> not that i'm aware of no. >> are you aware of any phone call by the president of the united states to the attorney general of the united states that day? >> no. >> are you aware that a phone call by the president of the united states to the secretary
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of homeland security that day? >> i'm not aware of that. no >> did you ever hear the vice president as for the national -- ? >> no. >> did you ever hear the president asked for law enforcement response? >> no. >> so is donald trump's choice not to act presidential in a time of crisis is that a moral failure, dereliction of duty, or could amount to criminal behavior? >> i think it's certainly all three alex. i'll take you through why. we heard a lot about the dereliction of duty from the committee the other day. i don't think that is an accident. one of the things that has to become clear to the public is that the department of justice in congress, while they are both engaged in their own investigations, they are doing it for their own purposes. department of justice is focused on whether anyone cannon could be criminally process prosecuted for the
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criminal actions. congresses prague -- is finding out what happened -- with his failure to take care as the taunts titushky requires them to, that the laws be faithfully executed, i think they are setting the ground to bring about some legislation that would disqualify donald trump from holding office in the future. we've heard folks talk about section three of the 14th amendment. -- that's a section that says, a person who participates in an insurrection or gives aid and comfort to enemies of the united states cannot hold federal or state office. in talking about this dereliction of duty, that's what i think congressman adam kinzinger and congresswoman elaine luria we're talking about the other day. i expect that that might be one of the legislative fixes the congressman rep rep recommends. >> is that something that could be done before this cycle gears
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up for the 2024 election? could it be done before this president former president wants to declare candidacy again, and if he were to declare tennessee, could that immediately negate, it -- ? >> if the house rings that that measure for vote, i don't think that it will succeed in the senate. but at least the democrats and those on the committee will force people to take that hard vote alex before november. and force them to say to the american public and their constituents whether or not they believe donald trump remains qualify to hold office in the united states. that's an important vote for people to take, even if it's not a winning one. >> okay. lisa rove, and come see us again. and are you doing a little ot on the weekends. thank you so. much >> love to see you too. thanks so much. alex >> we are so much more to unpack for you, including why some secret service agents are with the president on january
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oz using a meme to compare the two. lieutenant governor responded posting this picture, saying quote, graphic design is my passion. joining me now is the democratic strategist for the biden harris campaign, and advisor for the democratic national committee. welcome to you both. let's get into this. adrian, you first. how are pennsylvania voters reading this back and forth? and how are you? >> well, i think it's smart on john fetterman's part. it's one of the things we he's doing which is very effective is making it clear is that mehmet oz us from new jersey. this is where he lives, where he's registered to vote. [inaudible] [inaudible] cute little funny kitty things like little memes and videos and ways to get these things across twitter and social media
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where the team to go viral. i think it's smart. it's a little silly that mehmet oz is talking about fetterman's endorsement of bernie sanders, because bernie sanders happens to be a very popular person among the democratic party base of voters. this is where we are in the campaign. you gotta do what you can to get the attention of voters. a lot of people are not gonna start paying attention until labor day, when it comes to the election electoral politics. those running for office are trying to do with they can right now to be, draw the attention of voters. [inaudible] >> here's something that doctor oz might not shaken that his claims he made on his tv show, medical claims of, course he is a physician. here's part of the ad. it is titled wizard of life. >> it's a miracle flower, miracle pill, brett numerical, do you believe there's a miracle pill out there? >> there's not a pill that is gonna help you long term lose weight live you the best life
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without biden exercise. >> you ought to be ashamed of yourself. >> you may think magic is make believe, but this little pill has scientists say they found a magic weight loss cure for everybody. >> interesting ad. how effective and potentially damaging do you think it is? >> i think it's a very effective and creative that. this is about defining this out of town tourist, mehmet oz, as for what he is. this is a charlatan tv doctor basically. 30 rock's doctor has gone more credibility when it comes to medicine right now than when it comes to doctor oz. after hawking magic pills and bees and routes that none of which do what he said it does, this is a guy who gave a bad medical diet advice to make a buck. it was all a grift.
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for voters in pennsylvania, who probably never about doctor oz -- this is a very effective way branding him, get ahead of the curve before the bell rings in the fall and defining him before he is a chance to define himself. >> fetterman on his part has really out race doctor oz financially since late april. fetterman has brought in nine point $9 million, compared to doctor oz as 1.1 million. -- adrian, fundraising would suggest that fetterman has not lost his step. do you think it is an uphill battle for oz? >> alex, i do. this is one place in the country where democrats think that we could flip the senate seats. i think you are seeing this play out in realtime, to the point you just made, john fetterman has been off the campaign trail for two months due to a stroke. it's probably not politically
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savvy for doctor oz to be criticizing him for that. he's doing what the health and safety of his doctors tell him to do. doctoral seems to be a doctor so he should know. >> by the way, that just hit me. he's a doctor. >> yeah. the fact that he's hitting fetterman on that is bizarre. it's not the smartest tactic. alex, you've seen this across the country. democrats are out raising republicans at almost every rate -- by not just a couple hundred thousand but by 80 90%. it shows you where the momentous. this is not something [inaudible] this is quite a stark contrast because democrats are doing very well on their ballots and we are seeing them play out. -- the one thing we have to keep in mind alex is we've got people like peter thiel and some of these wealthy billionaires on the republican side who are financing --
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[inaudible] their in mind all of the money that's going into this races and be mindful of the fact that we have a lot of funding on the republican side. >> but currently, we ask you relative to fetterman and not being on the campaign trail, at what point must he returned? when with his absence become depp detrimental to winning in november? >> i think he has started doing some of that. he's made some appearances more recently. he did an interview with a local pennsylvania newspaper. he's getting back out there. he's got to follow the advice of doctors. that's the most important thing, it's to let the experts guide what he does in terms of his health. as long as he's out there by the time the fall campaign bell rings, he's gonna be fine. doctor oz has taken hit after hit after hit. fetterman's absence from the campaign has not really hurt him as, we see from the fund raising efforts. doctor oz is taking so much
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water right now. maybe fetterman should just lay low and that office keep going out there and making a fool of himself and hurting himself with voters. >> okay. we're gonna watch that one closely. we'll see you again soon. thank you. it is a crime to horrified this nation and in a moment, the latest developments in the case of that ten year old rape victim, including new words from the doctor who performed the abortion. doctor who performe doctor who performe thto control... that can scale across all your clouds... we got that right? yeah, we got that. it's easier to be an innovator. so you can do more incredible things. [whistling]
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in indiana. i don't believe in turning patients away. she says she's one of the few doctors in that state of performing abortions, and she's been doing so far safely for 12 years. -- she's been called a liar, her integrity has been questioned, and now, her state legislature will be looking at banning abortion with-limited exceptions in a special session last week. doctor bernard says of those lawmakers, there will never face my patients, they will never stand in their shoes, or hold or, hands they will never stand in their pain. legislatures are the last people who should be in the business of deciding who gets medical care and who does not. [inaudible] patients will be forced to go to other places and turn to other desperate measures. -- you will recall, tawdry cato went on fox news and publicly doubted whether dr. bernard reported the procedure on time.
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we know from the indiana public health that she did. well he has since sound she has since sent ricky does office the tort claim -- is not just a attempt to distract, but it's also an attempt to, intimidate, obstruct and start my office is monumental progress to save lives. it will take more than that are in to intimidate us. -- alex, for us for what's next in this case, the suspect was just indicted by a grand jury on two kinds of rape. he will be arraigned on monday. alex, so many aspects of this case to cover. thank you so much for doing so lindsay. thursday's january 6th hearing drew 17.7 million viewers. that was down 11% from the first primetime hearing. the most important viewer might have been merrick garland. has he seen enough to pursue charges? and that 70s show, a laughing matter on tv but not so much for the double digit inflation
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