this is the katie phang show, live from miami, florida. we have lots of news to cover in lots of questions to answer, so let's get started. with the january 6th hearings wrapping up for, now the focus shifts to the fulton county georgia investigation. i will dive deep into why this particular probe is reportedly causing big concern in trump world, and how the 16 hurricanes could actually supercharge that case. plus, monkeypox is now officially a global health emergency. as the cdc confirms its first cases in american children. it concern over vaccine

availability and the simple activities that could pose a risk to your family. and later, nearly 200 house republicans vote against protecting access to contraception. i'm going to go one-on-one with the co-sponsor of the bill about why this is so important, and what democrats need to do to protect other crucial rights. good morning, and a happy sunday to you. i am katie fang. biden continues to recover from covid this morning as his doctor says that he likely contract at the highly contagious ba.5 variant, which is rapidly spreading throughout the united states. biden tested positive for the virus on thursday, and has been isolating in the white house resident sense. why do sympathizing the biden through was all wild, he has

received four vaccine doses in his taking an anti viral drug. for more on all of this we turn to nbc news correspondent peter alexander, who is at the white house. >> hello katie, good morning. biden beginning his third full day in isolation here. white house not carrying any new photos of him on saturday. but they do so he is getting better and keeping a full schedule. his doctor this week and writing that after two days of the antiviral paxlovid, his symptoms continue to improve, although he's still dealing with a sore throat, runny nose, loose cough and body aches. on friday biden had a recipe voice during his meeting with his economic team. they were talking about lowering gas prices. but he is feeling much better than he sounds. he is using an inhaler 2 to 3 times a day. but is experiencing no shortness of breath. his doctor says mr. biden will most likely contracted the ba.5

sub variant, as you noted, which now accounts for 75 to 80% of all infections. as for the first lady, who spokesperson tells me that she tested negative again on saturday. she has been identified as a close contact of her husband. the officers that she plans to state the couple's home and wilmington, delaware, at least until tuesday. the white house is 17 people in all have identify those close contacts, including the vice president, he was continuing with her travel and attending a roundtable and reproductive rights and virginia just yesterday, well wearing a mask. katie. >> our thanks to peter alexander at the white house. in the meantime, or the world health organization declaring the monkeypox outbreak a global health emergency. its highest possible alert. the w.h.o. now views the growing number of cases as enough of a threat that it coordinated an response that is needed to prevent further spread. more than 16,000 cases have

been reported across over the country so far this year. the cdc has confirmed the first cases in children in the united states. coming up in the show i'm going to ask doctor van gupta what you need to know to protect your family from monkeypox. but first we are going to turn overseas to ukraine. new drone footage into nbc news from the ukrainian military appearing to show ukrainian kamikaze drones attacking the positions of russian occupiers, via nuclear power plant in southeastern ukraine. here you see video of the drone was reportedly hitting a russian military tent city, an equivalent of the russian army. ukraine saying the drones killed three russians and injured 12 others. nbc news has not been able to independently confirmed these figures. all of this comes as we learn the names of one of the two americans that were killed in eastern ukraine. believed to have been fighting in the war against russia. nbc news correspondent alison

barber has more, live, from kyiv. good morning alison. >> good morning, katie. the parents of one of those americans tell us that he was killed during an ambush in eastern ukraine. they are devastated, and right now they are trying to figure out how to tell their young grandchildren that their father is not coming home. they say that is difficult as this conversation will be, there is one thing they believe they can tell their children with confidence, that their dad was a hero who cared about people. >> this is the photo. >> in calabash, north carolina, kathy and george -- are mourning the loss of their son. >> he did not go there to be a hero. he was there because he wanted to help people. >> 31 year old -- a father of two, a brother and a devoted friend, went to ukraine in early april. >> my husband is ukrainian, so he has 50% of him as ukrainian.

he saw the work going on and he saw that they really needed help. and he said, mom i will tell him. so we went in we tried to display. >> every time i talk to them i say, why don't you just come home? >> he kept sending off notes, mom, we don't have the right equipment. >> how did you find that what happened? >> about four in the morning. the state department gave a call and said what happened. >> kathy and george believe lou, who served as a mother, was not a conscious bite you tilt area when -- tried to knock him unconscious. >> -- desiccated, untangled him, started firing at him. >> -- confirmed with nbc news that the recent death of two year citizens in the donbas region of ukraine.

volunteers from sweden and canada tied in the same fight, reportedly. >> so the rest of his friends, the rest of the italian left with them. >> news of the death of the americans comes after an attack on the city of odessa, just one day after they agreed to a deal to carry ships with ukraine's most vital, export grain. no end in sight. once again it is taking a personal toll across the seas in america. ellen barber, nbc news, kyiv, ukraine. >> katie, that brings the death toll of americans believed to have been killed while fighting since the invasion began to four. luke's parents told us that he initially came here trying to deliver humanitarian aid, and then decided to join the ukrainian military. katie. >> alison, such heartbreaking

news this morning. really, our sympathy to the parents. thank you again, also, live from kyiv. this morning, 90 million americans are waking up to a sweltering heat wave, including in texas where it is another brutal test of the states power grid. residents there have gone 28 straight days with temperatures reaching over 100 degrees, and 50 days without any -- guard up disaster in a dozen counties in the state. nbc's liz mclaughlin is live in dallas texas. liz, is there any sign of release for texans? >> who get, morning katie. unfortunately, no. in the coming days, autumn darkened issues are expected to continue here. we are looking at a heat index of 102 to 105. it is just brutal when it gets in those trouble digits. a breeze that usually brings release feels like a hairdryer but blowing on you. the dangerous heat turned

deadly this week. first heat related death reported in dallas county 66. year old woman. records hit this week, as well. 109. that day, on wednesday, we saw record strain on that power grids. more than 80,000 megawatts. that is more than new york and california combined. the power used their. i talked to some locals and a high-end apartment building very close to here, who we're talking about moving. if they are on high floors and they say that the apartment is getting in the high 80s even with the air on. new restrictions, they lived there for years, are in place. and controls on their ac, they cannot turn it below 74. as is coming on the windows, those apartments are just tuning up. that is for those who are lucky enough to have a sea. there were some relief here for those who. don't you can reach out to the heart health department are requesting their conditioning units, but there's still a lot

on this power grid. we spoke with the electric reliability council in texas here is what he had to say. >> i am always working. that is why i prepare. that is why our entire team plans for this type -- of to make sure that we have the tools that we need, the resources that we need. we are working on all of those pieces. >> and this, morning eric -- did say that there is enough power to meet demand. but it will continue to be tested as these high temperatures continue. we are not even the hottest part of the year yet. katie? >> our thanks to liz mclaughlin who is in texas, in that heat. with the january six committees on a brief hiatus until september, the focus is not going to shift to the fulton county georgia investigation, which could be the most serious legal threat to donald trump. district attorney fani willis is leading the jury investigation about efforts to

overturn election results in that state. she has made it clear that she is going after anyone who is involved, from trump's allies to the man involved. here's what she had to say in an exclusive interview with nbc earlier this month. >> might this be a subpoena of the former president himself? >> anything is possible. >> you are not ruling it? out it is possible? >> absolutely. >> a new report from the new york times highlights just how expansive the investigation has been already. so far has involved a local cadillac dealer, a high school economic t-shirt, a woman who identifies herself as a publicist for kanye west, along with united states senator and former president. the times also noting that legal experts believe that this indicates, quote, that willis is building before mark for a broad case that can target multiple defendants with conspiracy to commit election fraud, or racketeering for engaging in a coordinated scheme to undermine the election. we've already seen federal

several high-profile subpoenas, rudy giuliani, who is not been ordered by george to testify in the case next month. senator lindsey graham in congressman jeanne -- are currently fighting their subpoena. so why is this case so particularly dangerous for donald trump? there is no better to ask the uncritical defense attorney and msnbc legal analyst, and my friend, danny solace. good, morning danny. thank you for being here. let us say, hypothetically, but you are represented by donald trump, get your feet in advance, by the way. how much are you going to be focused on what's happening in fulton county compared to other jurisdictions including a possible criminal referral by the 16 committee to the doj? >> hyper focused. and here is. why in my mind it doesn't really have that much to do with the underlying -- it has to do with principles of federalism. in other words, the state of door georgia is not as concerned as the doj with tricky issues like canned the

executive branch run up -- head of the executive branch? an election official in georgia does not worry about to that one iota. she conducts her investigation and charges, without a single concern about whether or not it affects the executive branch or the separation of powers, or anything like that. so in my mind, that is really the reason why trump and his team should fear the fulton county district attorney's investigation more than anything else. >> so something that is also noteworthy, danny, but i wanted to ask you about is this interesting connection between the georgia probe and the 16 committee. the daily beast publisher reports about how the january 6th hearings could, quote, supercharged the georgia case. because in georgia prosecutors can present hearsay evidence to the grand jury, which would include a testimony obtained during those january six

hearings. how big of an evidentiary boost could that give a possible georgia case? >> grand juries themselves are already supercharged by operation of the rules of procedure. they are a one sided affair. it is prosecutor only, there is no -- i've never been in the green jury room. it is something that has to be, even with the evidence we are talking about, something that is a one sided show for the prosecution. therefore do something trump to be worried about no matter what. this grand jury can only recommend prosecution. it cannot itself indict. that is one point to consider. this is something that hearsay, virtual anything comes in a grand jury proceeding anyway. so that is why any grand jury proceeding, anywhere, should give donald trump cause for concern. it is a criminal defense attorney, she complained about grand jury's, could charge pretty easily, and the

defendant has to defend their lockers and their money defending something that was presented as a bids. really by one size without the jury here the other side of the case. >> our thanks to danny solace, msnbc legal analyst for being here this morning with. us we will have you back and talk a little bit more if an indictment is returned against donald trump and others. thanks again. coming up, gop lawmakers have made it clear that they do not want women to have abortions. so you would think the logical solution would make sure that women have easy access to birth control. but this week, 195 health republicans voted against a bill that would do just that. i can't say i'm surprised, folks. that is a little later in the hour. stay with us. that is a little hour with rinvoq. rinvoq is a once-daily pill that tackles pain,

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but some develop widespread legions, often concentrated in the groin region. one of the major issues with the current response is lingering problems with the availability of vaccines, and a patchwork testing system. many health experts believe that the true count of cases in the united states is much higher than reported. so with summer in full swing, cases confronted children, and an illness that can be passed by physical contact or on clothing, what does your family need to know? her to help us understand is msnbc medical contributor, doctor vin gupta. good morning doctor gupta, thank you for being here this morning, again. when the w.h.o. announced their decision this week, you wrote on twitter that it was equally important to make sure the people pay attention, no so it affects them, and take proper precautions. so please do that for us now. let us know what precautions people should be taking, and how a monkeypox may ultimately

affect them. >> katie, good morning, thank you for having me. the message was inspired by the fact that this is not the same threat to the general public as covid-19 has posed for the last two and a half years. i thought it was important that if the w.h.o. is going to make this move, a pretty bold move that gets a lot of attention, it confused a lot of people and worried a lot of people, causing some anxiety. what should people be worried about? is this the same level of threat? it is not. for the general public it is important to realize that the vast, 99% of the cases right now, are primarily being a defied in communities of many of sex with men. 99% of cases across the united states. and primarily from what we are seeing across the world. from what we are seeing, are there likely cases outside of that community? absolutely. likely under testing we have 85 tests a week, in the lead up those tests are very

inaccessible. the way to protect yourself above and beyond what you are doing for covid-19, really outside of good hand high jean, making sure you have hansen it has or on your person, making sure that if you are around folks who say in public transportation, that might be coughing, in the grocery store who are riding an airplane, i believe i am wearing a mask whenever i am in a public place, i still urge people to do that especially those that are medically high-risk to do that. because to your point, even though it can happen much more rarely, it can spread through large respiratory droplets close to somebody who is coughing. so those are the main strategies here. but this is not the same threat to the general public is covid-19? not even close. and there are few reasons why. i will get into that. >> could you, though? because for, example i want to pull in a fall smaller than we talked about in the intro to your interview. i have a seven year old daughter.

so whether her that two children were confirmed to the united states to have cases of monkeypox, it is concerning for me as a parent. these kids are going to school parties, pool parties, sleep or worse for the summer. can you can you until that issue and also let us know why we should not be as concerned about monkeypox is we are about covid? >> it is a great point. forced of all, this can be serious two children. in fact what we do know is it a number of pediatric cases, versus a very different virus, some similar to chicken pox. the prevalence among chicken pox in children appears nearly as. high is a, possible yes. but it seems far less likely. when you do to guard against that? this is where it is right now, challenging to really understand monkeypox happening at some of these communities where we know it is happening to a significant degree. because those communities can either seek a therapy, they are

symptomatic, they are coming in to city health clinics looking for therapy, which is really hard to get by the way. it is a very -- process. so for parents of children like myself, what to do? frankly, there is nothing above and beyond what you already doing for covid precautions, that you can do. unfortunately, there's really nothing else we can do. supply of testing is very limited. supply vaccines are only going to have less than 1 million by the fall. so there's not really anything, above and beyond, that we as parents of children will have access to. so it is just vigilance. as far as why this is differ for covid-19, and the general public needs to be less worried. here vigilant, but less worried this is going to be a pandemic. if we don't think that asymptomatic infection and spread of this virus, for people who already know they are infected with monkeypox, is that likely. is it possible that people can be asymptomatic but carry monkeypox? yes. some studies suggest it is possible. but far less likely than

covid-19, we're being simple amanda infection, asymptomatic transmission was one of the main reasons why there was still transmission of covid. that is not happening in the case of monkeypox. if you are positive, you are likely to have symptoms, pustules across the body, which need to be tested. it also appears that transmission requires very close contact. intimate partner contact in many cases. so that should also hopefully add some measure of reassurance to parents that pool parties, for example, we're just being at a sleep over, it is not necessarily enough to transmit monkeypox even amongst kids. intimate partner contact, close contact with those raised legions, for example, in the general area. that is the driver here, more than anything else. so hopefully there is some reassurance. there but we are dealing with something fundamentally different from covid, not the same. >> our thanks to, you doctor

gupta, for being here this. morning this is exactly for each that we need to. no thank you for being here. later, friday ron klain joins simone sanders to talk about -- the politics of gas prices, and the president's recent approval numbers. watch simone today at 4 pm eastern on msnbc. and coming, up donald trump and ron desantis spoke at separate republican events in florida on saturday. it is putting into focus just how much competition trump actually could face in the field of potential 2024 presidential candidates. as these big right-wing egos battle it out in florida how worried should trump actually be? that is coming up next. that is coming up next that is coming up next s ♪ ♪ and kenny on the koi ♪ ♪ and your truck's been demolished by the peterson boy ♪

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never talk about anybody else. getting more votes than any sitting president in the history of our country, by far. and now we may just have to do is a good. >> that trump desantis dance taking place in florida just hours after trump and his former vice president pence were at odds in arizona. trump and pence were backing opposing gop governors there, each making their case friday night. increasing willingness by willing to flirt amid -- comes amid this little bit relentless drip of negative coverage following the january six hearing. the hearings aired its, with some markle season finale for season one on thursday, revealing some of the most damning details yet of trump's inaction while trump -- at the capitol was under attack. joining me now for incident analysis on former congressman,

john and emily. let me start with, you david. as a former republican congressman from her home state of florida, is it premature to think that ron desantis is granting any ground on trump? that may be the genuine damning evidence coming out of the 16 committee is actually playing a role here? >> not at all, katie. i think we are watching ron desantis passed donald trump in realtime for the gop nomination. and i would say not because donald trump has done anything wrong in the eyes of republican voters. not because of the j 6th committee. but just because ron desantis has done everything right. and continues to do that from a strategic standpoint. listen, when i say that people say, oh, jolly isn't bad with desantis. i am not, i disagree with his politics. i ran against him in 2016. the only candidate some say that has ever lead desantis. i am the former member, and you would be the next president of the united states, but i will

say about that is that he stole the assets of maga nation and trump and he inherited none of the liabilities. and he is practice those assets in florida with near perfection in the eyes of republican voters. and i think the final step for the scientists is simply this, katie. if he is reelected in november he says he will answer the calls of for the republican nominations. i am running around the scientists not against donald trump. if donald trump gets the nomination, i am excited to support him again. that has been his posture all along, and honestly i think ron desantis is no passing donald trump for the nomination. >> emily, following thursday's february six hearings, we morocco do wall street journal published a blistering op-ed saying that trump failed to the american people. they literal board wrote that in the 18 month since the attack, mr. trump has shown not and i would've regrets. character revealed in a crisis.

and mr. pence asked his january six trial, mr. trump motherly failed his. , emily could pence actually be unattractive and viable alternative to donald trump if desantis cannot snuck that nomination? >> pence is a serious presidential candidates. kind of assumes that republican voters care about policy. and i'm just not sure that is the case anymore. pence really, first of all he was not a very popular governor in indiana and when he was chosen as the vice president. vice president candidate. i am assuming that part of the reason that trump choices that he did not oppose him. and that was mainly his mo for the presidency. for the january 6th hearings he took a pretty divergent turn, but again did not use that platform to stand up and say this is wrong. i think when he is done with a lot of republicans have done is play with fire. they are so worried about losing the trump support, then continuing to be removed from rome's covid thrills, that they

are not willing to say that -- to go out and, say this is wrong. and that really go after the january six hearing as to whether trump won the presidency or not. which he really did not. i think seeing these hearings this really chipping away for them and their fate to be able to continue, just kind of hold our nose and stay with them. but they are also adding that it is a long time from now to november, definitely a long time from now to november 2024. so they are hoping that the voters basically either aren't paying attention, or forget about it. i think the biggest advantage pence brings, it doesn't like a legitimate faith for him. and there are a lot of faithful, particularly evangelical supporters voters who support trump simply because they wanted to see the overturn of roe. which they get. so where do they go from here? i think there is going to be a real division between moderate voters who say that -- has gone too far. on joyce, their question whether they're going to say this is just a, beginning we want somebody of faith. or if they say we'd like the

horse we have in, trump and he comes down with a hammer. this is the only place i imagined pence could pull people off, but not really with moderate voters. >> so david, though, the drama is not just limited to the gop side. it looks like there are some democrats who could be positioning themselves for a possible 2024 run for the white house. california governor gavin newsom has generated quite a bit of conversation and chatter recently with his ads in florida and texas going after both rhonda sanchez and greg abbott. but he is also gathering an audience in some democrats who have grown disillusioned by a perceived lack of action by president biden and others in d.c.. for example in friday, newsom signed legislation that would allow a minimum 2000 dollar reward to residents who successfully sue makers of illegal guns, making the anti abortion law in texas. do you think that somebody like gavin newsom could actually challenge president biden? >> i think and the incumbent joe biden clearly controls the entire process. should joe biden run obviously

vice president harris in is in the mix, but gavin newsom also is in. now he is exploring iran. and i think the pitch is obvious. he will, say look, i've been in california the bold progressive things that the party remains hungry for. the nomination of biden was a bit of a deal. they knew they needed to beat donald trump, biden had the best numbers against that. the party went in that direction. when you have the bold, progressive heartbeat, a little frustrated by the biden administration. gavin newsom is one who is ready to make that play. perhaps harris code. somebody like mayor pete, perhaps. isn't it step for a democratic party bold and progressive, or just remain in the biden footprint of -- or another moderate. i think the bold progressive really want their candidate, perhaps, as gavin newsom. >> i wish we had some more time, guys. we will have to have you back. our thanks to david jolly and emily tisch sussman for being here today.

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believe it is there is a time for children. the right time. when they are wanted. >> what's a novel idea. getting to choose the right time to have kids. that trojan condom ad may have been from the 1970s, but that message is even more relevant today. as republicans make moves that limit that choice post-roe. this week, 195 republican lawmakers in the house voted against a bill but codify's you are right to access contraception's, like the pale, plan b, iuds and even those georgians you saw in that. at 195 republicans thought it was quote unnecessary. you know because the supreme court would never go back on a ruling that has existed for nearly six years. i will remind, you justice clarence thomas wrote in his concurrence in the dobbs case, that the court should really consider griswold versus connecticut. that is the case that safeguards contraception's.

according to the good blocker institute, at least 12 states already have laws that allow doctors to refuse contraception related care for religious reasons. republicans logic post-roe might have you scratching your head, to. congresswoman debbie ross posing the question we are all asking during hearings on the bill this week. >> if my colleagues want to prevent abortions why would they restrict resources to women who want to avoid unintended pregnancies. >> congresswoman deborah ross joins us now, thank you so much for being here this morning. you were an original co-sponsor on this bill. what are your republican colleagues, representative kathy rogers, said the right to contraception was not at risk, and the republicans understood that there was a clear distinction between contraception and abortion. i have a favorite saying, --

none of this make sense, help us figure what is going on with this. >> i just think that they are in a real difficult situation. because they are antiabortion, and now they are anti contraception. which is the way that you prevent uninterested pregnancies. they even called this. i just cannot believe that they called it a trojan a horse after your lead here. we know, because of justice thomas's opinion, that contraception is on the line. and only eight republicans voted to have the nationwide guarantee that we can keep our access to contraception. that doctors will not be prosecuted for for prescribing contraception. and the fact that we are having this conversation in 2022 is a concern. 25 years ago, i worked at the

north carolina general assembly with a bipartisan group of women. and the republican doctor, to get insurance to cover contraception. and the fact that the republicans in congress are not in favor of this shows how extreme the republican party has become. >> but it has got to be an absurd issue to basically making your alamo knee through the gop. because there are millions of women and men now because let me be clear it is not just the pale. it includes condoms. it includes iuds. there are millions of men and women who are using contraception in the united states, and they are going to be directly affected by. this does this end up in a situation where they are shooting themselves in the foot? >> i think it is politically stupid of them. more than 90% of people in this country are in favor of contraception's. and, the vast majority of republicans are in favor of contraception.

so it is mind-boggling that they would be fighting this. i understand that there is a low reception on the senate side. but of course, we've got to get ten senators to be in favor of this. and believe me, our constituents are working those senators right now. >> sometimes it is really not about the concept of contraception but the underlying motive. in my opinion, the gop has this underlying fear of an uncontrolled woman. we've seen it with the reversal of roe. what's is it that is going to take to be able to sway those ten republicans in the senate to be able to vote to ensure access to contraception's in the united states? >> right now it is voter sentiment and outrage. and it is clear. i am home in north carolina right now. reproductive rights are at the top of all the issues that i'm hearing about for my

constituents. and they call into my office as well. i have been out in the bed in raleigh and carrie and all over my district. and people just cannot believe that we have come to this, and they are ready to vote. and that is what is going to sway the politician. job security. >> congresswoman deborah ross we appreciate your advocacy. and we will give out the numbers to the gop lawmakers and say, are you pissed, off call those gop lawmakers. because they are the ones that are going to be standing in your way. thanks for being here this morning. >> thank you, have a great day. >> you too. >> coming, up the travel nightmares this summer have some asking whether airlines should increase the retirement age for pilots. but how old is too old to fly? lindsey reiser looks into it. iser looks into it iser looks into it with colon cancer rising in adults under 50,

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endless delays, thwarting the americans long plan to get away. >> it is crazy. it is likely just canceled. >> many airlines points to a pilot shortage as a cause for the turbulence. but some of the computer say that they are being forced out by what they call an arbitrary law. >> we are losing thousands of pilots in the coming months. >> pilots are currently forced to retire at 65 which means 13% of them will be out of work within five years. but the largest pilots association denies that there is even a pilot shortage. citing the 8000 new commercial pilots in the last 12 months as an increase from recent years. still lawmakers led by lindsey graham's will raise the retirement age from 65 to 67, change that global would welcome. >> it is a solution for the long term we have right now. >> people who just says that he wants to look at other ways to strengthen the pipeline. >> these retirement ages are there for a reason and the reason is safety.

>> do you think that you at the top of your game when you are forced to retire? >> absolutely. >> patty marsh was the tenth female pilot hired by her airline. she didn't want to hang up her wings in 2020 either. >> if any occupation ought to be able to perform, it is airline pilots. >> is age really the best indicator for how well they can fly a plane? >> not at all. it is a terrible indicator for how somebody flies a plane. >> doctor gary k wrote a test for determining the fitness to fly. currently only -- look at each of the required to take. it i tried my hand at it. >> matched to the direction of the arrow. >> border color, oh my -- it is that fast okay. the air traffic controllers would hate me. pilots over the age of 40 already have to get a medical certification every six months. but doctor cases it ever whenever 65 should also took a

cognitive test. >> not everyone your flying are blue skies and winds. it is a day when things are so good and there was a lot of air traffic and bad weather, it's something is not functioning properly. and you want somebody who can make decisions and reason. >> lindsey reiser, nbc news, new york. >> our thanks to lindsey reiser. stick around after our show for velshi. today we have the author of brown girl dreaming jacqueline woodson for the latest installment of the velshi banned book club. we will be right back. banned book club we will be right back.

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