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hey everybody, good afternoon, i'm yasmin vossoughian. there is a lot going on right now, thanks for joining us. we have new information on the january six investigation. committee members talking about what they have shown so far and what is still ahead. we'll serve new insight into the secret service text that have vanished. we are getting an update on the presidents recovery from covid and we are learning much more about two americans killed fighting for ukraine. plus, the oppressive continuing heat wave gripping this nation and the world. when you look at when it might end. ahead this hour as well. we want to begin the with the january six investigation. members of the committee have new targets in their ongoing investigation into the attack on the capital, following their eighth hearing on thursday, which focused on donald trump's 187 minutes of an action. the committee says that's not all. to expect more hearings to come
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in september. ali is following the latest developments from us, also joined by cynthia, a former federal prosecutor and an msnbc analyst. welcome to both of you ladies. >> [inaudible] as they are still looking [inaudible] >> this upcoming for every lawmaker in this committee because they say it's a matter of this tie up any loose ends already know what's they still need to they say they already have [inaudible] >> ginni thomas, if she doesn't cooperate voluntarily. they say they'll delve deeper into the suns deleted text messages by the secret service. there is now a federal probe
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into. one big piece that they want to know more about is really wet members of the secret service, those agents who are with former president trump on january 6th, what they know, and what they witnessed. remember, anonymous sources disputed cassidy hutchinson's account when she testified about what she saw secret service agency that day, you know, the committee use some accounts at that hearing to cooperate what's cassidy hutchinson said at that hearing. members are saying that they want to hear from these agents who are with the former president under oath themselves. take a listen to committee member adam kinzinger here. >> the committee is more than welcome, if they will testify under oath to throw the door is wide open for them and walk them at any moment. it is not our decision that they haven't so far. what we have is a very credible witness and cassidy hutchinson, talk about what she had heard. she said, this is what i've been told to be, she did under oath in front of millions and millions of people.
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you hear anonymous sources, some which may actually be the people of interest themselves, coming forward and saying, oh, no, that's not true. unwilling to do under oath. committee members told us last week that some of those agents have already lawyered up. members speaking on the sunday shows what that possibly means. adam kinzinger, i'm, sorry committee member adam schiff saying this morning that it means they, quote, probably have a concern about the potential criminal liability. that is because in their official capacity, their secret service agents are entitled to representation from the dhs, which the secret service falls under. so, this is something that the committee members are very seriously, they're taking very seriously, they want to get more information during this next month recess before they get back for more hearings in september, yasmin. >> cynthia, let's pick off where she left off, it's kind of your thoughts on the fact the of two secret service members now and the former
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presidents driver retaining legal counsel. what do you think? >> well, i don't think whether or not the president lunged at the wheel or didn't wondrous the wheel is a critical fact, right? i think it's in disputed, undisputed at this point that he wanted to go to the capitol and there was an argument. exactly what happened is less important to me, especially since cassidy hutchinson said, this is what tony ornato told me, not that i witnessed. you do get the sense that the committee wants to underscore the credibility of their witness, so, that is why they need to do this. i am frankly more interested in finding out about the relationship between the president and the oath keepers and what's really was he spying on this violence? what is that relationship? then whether not he lunged at the wheel on that day. i do think they want to shore up their witnesses. as a general rule, i would say they should be very careful about giving any of these
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witnesses immunity because they want to find anything out. that is a tendency to script criminal case down the road -- so, i would say, please don't be so obsessed with supporting your witness that you start handing out immunity and messing up a doj case down the road. >> so, you talk about shoring up witnesses, right? there is been talk, obviously, about whether or not they're gonna subpoena ginni thomas. i spoke with the lofgren, possibly for five weeks ago, at that, point asking her if they had any plans to subpoena the supreme court justice's wife. at that point, she essentially said no, on the air, on the record. what we're hearing now is a different story. i'm wondering why possibly? let's take a listen to adam schiff. then we'll talk the other side. >> for clarence thomas to issue a decision, a dissent of the case, or congress is trying to get documents and those
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documents might involve his own wife, that's the line that's been crossed. >> sounds like you favor that subpoena? >> we'll, if she hasn't relative information, we hope she comes in voluntarily. if she doesn't, we should give that serious consideration. yes, i think that it's important information. >> what do you think? from what you've heard so far there, cynthia, does it seem like ginni thomas is an interval part of this puzzle? >> well, she's a piece of the puzzle. i think there's a certain momentum that has happened with the committee, they are getting a lot of information, by reports, people are coming, and she should get a subpoena if she doesn't appear voluntarily. absolutely. >> what's about the department of justice? committee members now have been increasingly outspoken about the department of justice is
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acting. we heard from merrick garland, i believe is last, week he said, nobody is above the law. he repeated himself on no many -- numerous occasions, we know they're watching this closely. at this point in time, now that we have the summer recess, does the department of justice have enough evidence to move forward with criminal action? >> well, they certainly have enough evidence and they've had for a very long time to open grand jury investigations. here's the general criticism, that is the department of justice has taken a backseat, which ordinarily does not do, when it comes to everything with the exception of the actual events on the sixth. what they've done, they have taken the events on the sixth, and then they're slowly moving up the chain. the problem with that approaches, there are so many other conspiracies that are happening. there is the conspiracy in georgia. there is the conspiracy in pennsylvania. what's going on on the relationship of the oath keepers.
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what's happening in arizona. so, instead of having teams doing each of those individual investigations and then meeting together to find out exactly how this all happened, they have just been kind of taking a backseat and waiting for the bubble up on six to lead them. that's the general criticism that many of us have, including me, quite vocally. when i'm pleased about, now they are getting involved in the georgia and the fake elector scheme. here's why that's a problem. so, i don't have jurors understand this. so, fani willis in fulton county has been investigating the fake elector scheme. she is pretty far along in her investigation. in fact, she's issued target letters to people. that means that when the justice department goes and wants to interview those people, none of them are gonna talk to them. so, we've lost our chance to get that information right away, because we took a backseat. and there's a lot, depending on how much time you have, there's a lot of other ramifications,
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i'm happy to share them for you. >> well, how about, cynthia, you come back we'll talk more about this. obviously, at this point, it is not going away. as i just mentioned, they will in fact be continuing. so hold that thought for now, and i'll have you back, hopefully come back. cynthia, thank you. ali, thank you as well. let's move over to the white house, everybody. the president spending the third consecutive day in isolation there after contracting covid. -- is there is an update on the presidents condition. talk to us, day three after he tested positive. you and i were together when we learned of the president contracting covid, it was quite a scramble from the white house. seems things have come down now. he's doing a heck of a lot better today. >> he has been, i can definitely tell you that it is calmer today than it was when we were sitting on side, as i was passing you notes, we're trying to figure what was going on. we have a couple updates from the white house in the last few hours. the white house doctor, kevin
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o'connor, the president's doctor, he said that his symptoms have improved significantly. his running nose, his cough, his body aches have diminished considerably as well. the doctor also noted that his predominant symptom now is a sore throat, he said the president is responding to therapy is expected. also wanted to make sure to know that the president has no shortness of breath and his lungs are clear. that said, we have heard from doctor anthony fauci, the nation's top doctor, especially during this pandemic, he told our colleague, jonathan, some updates about the presidents condition in the white house thinking. take a listen to what he said today on the sunday show. >> although you can never guarantee anything, each day that goes by and the reports that we're getting from dr. o'connor, his personal physician, is that he seems to be improving on a daily basis. all of that is very good news. he'll continue to be followed closely. but literally, on a day by day basis, as he continues to improve, from what we're hearing, from his physician,
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that is a pretty good prognosis. >> so, there you have, it really, cautious optimism there. talking to white house officials if you get the sense that they feel that the president will likely make a full recovery. that being said, i'm also told that the presidents continuing to keep a full schedule, continuing to be working. i'm told next week he might even be giving some speeches, working from home, zooming into some of the events he wanted to be there in person with. i should also note that wednesday would be the first day that the president could come out of quarantine, but the white house has been clear to say that he will only come out of quarantine if he tested negative for covid. let's watch that space closely as well. >> yeah, we'll be watching that for sure. maybe we'll be together again at the desk on wednesday to talk more about that. yamiche alcindor, thank you. later on today, white house chief of staff ron klain joins my colleague simone on the presidents covid diagnosis as well as the economy and how the biden agenda can push through despite distractions every corner. watch simone today at 4 pm eastern. all right, let's turn to the
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war in ukraine, everybody. nbc news has now confirmed that luke lucyszyn was one of those americans killed in ukraine. this is all coming as followed is continuing over russia strike in the city of odessa. the port city. in violation of this deal agreed to just hours before with ukraine to allow grain exports to resume from the black sea. want to bring in nbc's, ali, who is standing behind us. we have this attack, hear comments from luke's family to nbc news, what more can you tell us? what more do you know? >> hi, yasmin. that's right, we've learned that his name is luke lucyszyn, he was over here working as a medic with the foreign fighters unit. according to his family, they were fighting in the donbas area when he was knocked unconscious by some shelling. his fellow fighters then tried to extricate him from the area when a russian tank rolled in, started firing on them, killed
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him, another american, and there are reports that one canadian and one swede were also killed in that attack. let's take a listen to it luc's family had to say when they spoke to nbc. >> i tried to talk him out of it. i was not really for it. you know, it's a tough situation. but, you know, they're outnumbered, outgunned, and it's really big a big hard task to try and complete. >> he did go there to be a hero. he was there because he wanted to help people. that was his goal, to help people. it wasn't to be named a hero. >> and he has been, that brings the total number of americans killed two for, with at least three others that are captured. over to the south of the
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country, in odessa, today the russians justify that missile strike on the port of odessa a day after signing an agreement to allow ships safe passage out of there. they said that they had targeted a weapons depot full of foreign ammunition, as well as a ukrainian warship. they're basically saying that those targets were legitimate targets because they didn't target grain. so, an extraordinary justification from the russians, just after signing a deal not to attack that very port. this is certainly gonna bring about a perception of insecurity for commercial ships to ferry green in and out. it's also probably gonna delay that whole process which is leaving a very vulnerable people in africa and the middle east leaving a food shortage. also today russian foreign minister, he was on a diplomatic charm offensive in africa. he said russia was not to blame for the food shortages.
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all right, thank you as always. still ahead this hour, secrets of the secret service. why the destruction of text messages relate to the january 6th capitol riot has turned from a scandal into a criminal investigation by the department of homeland security. first, republican senator put on the spot we're game urge. how the house passed respect for marriage act, it's leaving the gop struggling to respond. >> it's a pure messaging bell, it's obviously satellite noun. >> this is about creating trauma. >> there's very little passes the democratic house that may interest and supporting. the democraticou hse that ma interest and supporting. it disrupts my skin with rash. but now, i can disrupt eczema with rinvoq. rinvoq is not a steroid, topical, or injection.
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that. >> i'm not answering questions that are about hypotheticals that are just pelosi trying to divide america culture wars. >> all, right jeremy writing up what he calls the taxonomy of republican senators trying to respond to the game marriage bill, documenting how they're all squirming just in their own ways. placing responses from those gop senators and categories ranging from sure, maybe, never, is that even a thing? to i certainly know game and homosexual people, some of them married for idols. jeremy is a senior editor, thanks for joining us. i have to say, as i was checking through the responses, a lot of these republican senators when they first started trickle in, i was shocked that they seemed so ill prepared to respond to something like this, considering the current climate, considering, of course, what we heard from justice thomas himself after the overturn of roe. >> well, it's a tough one for them, right? because you have an issue here
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where two thirds of the american public supports marriage equality. they're opposed to marriage bans of any kind. at the same time, you still have a good segment of the republican base that expects them to, you know, press forward on this issue. even though it is settled law or it should be, at least. we know it might not be because the constitutional right to an abortion, which was just overturned in dobbs, as was said in clarence thomas's concurrence, he placed a square target on the issue of marriage equality. >> the thing is, i think the same could be said for roe, if they've been asked the same questions a few weeks before rosa returned, the house is trying to codified, right? we would've been sitting here saying, well, it's a tough one for republicans, the majority of americans actually support abortion access for women in this country. i want to read for folks, mitt romney, his response.
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he was kind of in this category which you said, i thought we settled that one already. he said this, given the fact that the laws settled on this, i don't think we need to lose sleep over it, unless there were a development that suggested the law was going to be changed. i'm wondering how it is that senator romney could say something like this, considering where we are today with roe and everybody believing and thinking that in fact that was a settled law. and yet, here we are. >> well, the important point to know is that this basis for marriage equality that was decided seven years ago in obergefell v. hodges, it's the same privacy right, the same constitutional bases that formed row. you have justices from all sides noting that it was sort of hypocritical for the court to say, oh, we are going exclusively to undo this constitutional right and not that. so, yes, they should know that
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this is under threat by this court potentially, based on what was written in dobbs. at the same time, they don't only have a way to defend the no position that this is the best they've got to say, well, it's settled law, we don't have to touch it. >> so, here's another category put out there, i'm confused on my constituents will tolerate, so i'll say different things to different people. fighting tom tillis, and republican who would vote for the bill, as told by his office, senator ron johnson, a republican facing a challenger for his reelection. he reluctantly said that he would vote for the bill, based off, of course, his constituents. >> yeah, tom tillis initially said something along the lines of, i think this is an issue, we need to see it the legislators do here, it's premature to act. and then to his credit, he turned and supported the bill. senator ron johnson's, that you know, there is no reason, i
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don't see a reason to oppose this bill. so, right now it has five supporters in the senate for republican supporters, which is halfway to what it needs to break a filibuster. there are nearly there, but, yes, there's some flip-flopping here. >> so, with that probable five yeses, crystal ball for us, where do you see this going? >> the senator minority is in charge of organizing this for republicans, you know, and getting people on the right side of the side that the senate leadership once said shortly after this bill passed the house, he thought there is going to be bipartisan support. you can contrast that with the contraception bill that just passed house. the marriage equality bill, the respect for marriage act, it passed with 47 republican votes. the contraception bill that just passed the house as well
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only passed with, you know, less than a dozen republican votes. so it seems there is more momentum for this bill and potentially others. it has a real shot. >> we'll be watching. it jeremy, thank you. up next, feeling the burn, the global heat wave continuing this weekend. we're live from texas where there has been almost 30 days of over 100-degree temps. and 50 days without rain. not to mention, a power grid pushed to the limit. we'll be right back. pushed to the when you have technology that's easier to control... we'll be right back. that can scale across all your clouds... o more incredible things. [whistling]
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pushed to the limit. joining me now, nbc's liz and meteorologist michelle grossman as well. liz, let me start with you on this one. yesterday when you and i spoke you were out front of kind of this water pad thing where kids like to play. a great place to spend some time when you're in the midst of a heat wave. it has been relentless. i've seen some folks walk in the park behind you. it does pose some major health danger for a lot of folks. how huge is this strain on the power grid there in texas? >> it's like nothing we've ever seen before. 80,000 megawatts this week, when those temperatures peaked, breaking records that 109. that number, to put in perspective, for that day it was more than all the power used by new york in california combined. so, that's definitely a strain on the system. it's just starting the sweltering summer has no relief in sight.
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with heat index 102 to 105 in the coming days. utilities are starting to limit a sea of residents here. in one high rise apartment building nearby, they say on the top floors, even at 74 degrees, the max variable to lower their, that it's in the 80s in their apartment, it's really hard to sleep, they're thinking about moving. this is definitely rough. we talk to some residents about how they're coping with all this he. let's listen. >> we all have to do our part. we have a great we have to protect. we've been through a terrible winter storm where we lost star electricity for three days. i think some of us never want to go back to raise our thermostats to not use so much ac. >> climate change is a huge issue facing our society right now, our world. just seeing what's going on right now, i mean, dallas, the whole southwest, really, anywhere experiencing this kind of heat, it's something we're just gonna be seeing more of. >> more of an indeed.
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here in dallas, 50 days now without rain, 28 consecutive days in triple digits. and more to come. that is unusual for this time of year. usually 27 days for the whole year and that temperature range. definitely changing something. climate scientists say this is a preview of a chilling future of excessive heat and frequent drought periods. >> i'm surprised you don't see adults out there in their underwear and that fountain. michelle grossman, give us some relief. yesterday, you said it was not soon enough. where are we today? where we're looking at where the country could get some relief from this heat? >> you know, it's gonna be all about location. where liz is, they're not gonna have relief. that's part of the climate connection. we're seeing these weather patterns that aren't budging, areas of high pressure, quite literally a heat pump just pumping in this hot air. it is staying put. it's been anchored in place for
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a month in two weeks. we're gonna see no end in sight there. that's why they're dry, that's why they're so high. in the northeast, we're seeing our heat peaks today. it's so hot, it's gonna be hot once again in the early part of tomorrow before our cold front sweeps through. that's gonna sweep at the humidity, sweep out the heat as well. we're also looking at strong storms because of that. let's take a look in terms of what people are feeling right now. we're feeling like a triple digit in so many spots. it feels like 107 in little rock. it feels like 106 in st. louis. a feeling like 103 in shreveport. the northeast, so hot to, it feels like 97 in d.c. and raleigh your heat index is one of five. that's what's happening right now. 89 million people impacted by heat alert, whether it's an advisory, watch, or warning. notice, peep to the left part of your screen, we are looking at a heat watch in the pacific northwest. that's gonna be the next major weather story. they're gonna get in on the heat tomorrow, starting tomorrow. we're gonna be seeing a stretch of really hot weather. that's terrible news because it's been so dry, they're in wildfire season. we're looking at heated risers
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from anywhere in the central plains into the ohio valley. parts of the northeast as well. philadelphia, you're under excessive heat warning. temperatures close to 100 degrees, we can break the record in new york city, boston, also philadelphia. this is what's gonna happen here. he has been, we're gonna see that sweep through, we're gonna start off with that really higher in philadelphia tomorrow at 93. then it moves through, it's gonna bring some gusty storms tomorrow, we're gonna watch that. then we do have some relief. we're looking at temperatures. our bar is set so low, right? we're looking at temperatures in the 80s, that's gonna be early for us. >> astounding that relief means temperatures in the 80s. by the way, i have to say, once again, it combined california and new york, that's how much power they're using in texas. that is shocking. liz mclaughlin, michelle grossman, thank you as well. all right, let's talk real estate, everybody. you have the red-hot real estate market in the united states. it is now cooling down. the combination of these higher mortgage rates, inflation of course, and these soaring home prices.
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limited inventory. it's forcing a lot of house hunters to call it quits, to stop looking. mortgage rates have nearly doubled over the last two years, resulting in mortgage applications plunging now to a 20-year low. talk about v-shaped recoveries. nbc's scott is joining me from california, state home to the top ten cooling real estate markets. talk us through, it scott. it's astounding some of the numbers that are now being cited. how difficult it is and how expensive it is to buy a home today. >> yeah, absolutely, as been. this is a direct result of what the federal reserve is doing to try and rein in inflation. we know that they're raising interest rates, we're probably gonna get another rate increase from them this week. the first place that you see that manifest itself is in the housing market and the first housing markets that see that effect are the ones that heated up the most. that's why we see such a concentration here on the west
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coast. these markets that are really starting to level off. at the same time, prices are still very very high. we are looking at median home price nationwide, it's now about $416,000. as you said, that's impacting sales in a big way. we're looking at home sales now down about 20% this year. mortgage applications down. we had been used to this red hot housing market. experts say it is changing fast. >> i think everything is coming together, it's just in the coming months, certainly by the end of year going into next organist some real house price weakness. having said all of that, i'm not arguing crash, i'm arguing that there is a major comeuppance with the house prices. i think the market is under a lot of stress. >> one reason we may not see it crashes that there is not enough of this going on, there's not enough building going around the country. they had all sort of scaled back after the 2008 housing
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crash. as a result, inventory is tight. this is gonna take some time, yasmin, to play out. >> certainly as it seems. scott, thank you. after the, break a new criminal probe into deleted techs, secret deleted secret service text messages. raising questions about the organization's leadership. my next guest says there is no excuse for not saving the january six text messages. plus, period trackers and your data. how apps are now working to protect women who may be targeted by new anti abortion laws. that's coming up. y new anti laws were delayed when the new kid totaled his truck. timber... fortunately, they were covered by progressive, so it was a happy ending... for almost everyone. laws that's
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house chief of staff for operations. rob ringle, who is his driver, who are all part of that testimony by cassidy xia hutchinson -- that's according to zoloft graham. it's a move she calls unusual and as frank writes, while there is no direct evidence that the loss of text messages was intentional, the damage to the secret service's reputation can only get worse if an investigation determines that the texan question were deliberately deleted. joining me now is msnbc's national security analyst and contributor, frank. he's also a former assistant director for counter intelligence at the fbi. frank, as always, it's great to talk to you. homeland security chief, donald harlan, saying on msnbc this, at worst it's a conspiracy, at best it is incompetence. what do you make of that? >> yeah, he's right. and after 25 years in a large
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federal bureaucracy i often remind people, never jump straight to malicious intent without first ruling out human ineptitude. so, you know, this decision, whoever made, it actively or passively, to let this phone transition continue on, despite understanding, right, or not understanding the gravity of what happened on january 6th, the fact that inevitably they would be asked for this. now we know the facts, chronologically they were asked to provide communication. so, they went forward anyway. yeah, bureaucratic ineptitude or maliciousness, i'm beginning to slide towards some kind of malicious intent when we hear that agents have ordered, it yet it's their prerogative it's their right to lawyer up i understand that. >> yeah. reminded on multiple occasions by the way, both before and after january 6th. let me read for folks a little bit more of what you wrote.
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i want you to expand on it if you can. this blind spot has left the service reeling from a self inflicted wound over public perceptions of its response to january 6th-related congressional and inspector general document requests. talk more about this, this blind spot, and what you mean by that. >> i feel like this is déjà vu all over again. i'm seeing some of the same things i said when the public perception of the fbi was that it had been politicized. certainly, we had president trump to think for that. decision-making in prior fbi administrations, the hillary clinton email thing. i was saying when i'm saying now about the secret service. the brand and reputation of federal law enforcement agency is literally all they've got. when they flash that badge, when they need to make something happen, when they need citizen cooperation, it's all about whether the citizen says, i don't know if you have any credibility left. i don't know if i trust you. that's extended to the agency that protects the highest level
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of government. right? those people have to have complete trust and faith in that secret service detail. if they don't because they think that detail has become politically compromised, like the fact that tony ornato got a political operational role in the trump white house says was a big mistake, as i say in my column. we've got a problem. we've got a problem at the highest level. >> has it ever happened before, frank, the secret service agent becoming a political operative? >> to my understanding, this is unprecedented. this goes toward leadership, the decision to allow, even if allegedly, the president was demanding it. i like this guy ornado, i want him down the hall from me. i want him in this role. you've got to say no. you have to preserve the apolitical nature of your agency or you have to walk away. and that did not happen. the secret service director is retiring. he's announced that.
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we know that 30 years of commendable service. and the column, i ended by saying, look, they've had scandals before. there is prostitution in columbia in cartagena, during an official trip with obama, multiple agents were caught up in that. this culture has to stop. how do you do that? you need to reach outside the agency, give a director that has not come up through the ranks, so that strategic change can be implemented. >> it's fascinating. you bring up a great point. the secret service had, for a long time, scurried around the idea of being as political as other agencies, had to grapple with that, i.e., the fbi, as you talked about. now it seems like they have fallen prey to that as well. you always have this perception, the secret service protected the president no matter who it was. >> tony ornato himself was involved, not only in heading the detail for trump, but
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previously he was on the detail for obama, george w. bush, right? that's the job. it doesn't matter, as they like to say, that people like the president, we protect the president. we have to get back to that we've. got to get back to -- they've got to restore their credibility. they have to understand the perception when they close ranks and deny, deny, deny, instead of just saying, look we're, gonna be transparent on this. were to make -- one step, interestingly, was on their own, forensically, they claimed to have discovered that ten of the 24 agents being looked at did have texts that were not retained. that's their own work. ironically, the -- told him stop what you're doing, i've got this. it's criminal now. it's quite a mess, yasmin. it's sad to see because the secret service has a very storied, successful path. >> thank you frank, as always good, to see you. coming up everybody, red states ramp up their antiabortion laws in south carolina.
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one bill would outlaw online information on how to obtain an abortion. what's next? plus, i'm gonna be joined by a data expert who has tips you won't want to miss on how to protect your privacy, especially if you use menstrual tracker apps. we will explain next. >> i'm alicia menendez, ahead on american voices, minnesota lieutenant governor, penny flanagan, blatantly sexist comments from republicans in her state and the fight for reproductive rights. the texas mom trying to make a difference in politics. and the founder of mothers against greg abbott. that's all ahead, american voices, 6 pm eastern, right here on msnbc. here on msnbc. a reliable way to help keep everyone connected from wherever we go. well at at&t we'll help you find the right wireless plan for you. so, you can stay connected to all your drivers and stores on america's most reliable 5g network.
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and the work they still have to do. one of those members with a message for the department of justice. >> i sure is hell hope they have a criminal investigation into donald trump. merrick garland told us he's listening, if he's watching today, i'm saying, he doesn't need to wait on us, i think he has enough

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