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dropped for the back -- black panther sequel. we have to talk about it with our culture credits. i am symone, and i have something to say. president biden continues to isolate with covid-19, the doctors assure folks he's on the road to recovery. an update today themes, dr. kevin o'connor wrote in part, quote,, his symptoms continue to improve significantly. his predominant symptoms now is sore throat. this is most likely a result of lymph oil activation as his body clears the virus, and is thus encouraging. but here's the thing, y'all. america does not take a day off. while working remotely, the president still has to navigate a maze of pressing issues. covid, monkeypox, gas prices,

inflation and yesterday i spoke with white house chief of staff, ron klain, about the presidents recovery and his agenda. here's what he had to say. >> he's feeling pretty well. i talk to him a little while ago and he's been at work all day. on the phones. talking to staff and other people. his recovery has been very, very strong. he is really reacting well to the paxlovid. i won't predict wednesday he will test negative for covid, but he is certainly going to be in isolation for a minimum of five days. he will come back to the oval office, and when he gets a negative test. >> perfect. the president will be back after a negative test only. perfect. >> and as you know, symone, he's fully capable of working from the residents, he has the full array of secure communication equipment there, as well as zooms to do meetings from there. people are seeing him outwork.

i saw him yesterday. meeting with the economic team about gas prices on the live stream, so he's able to do his job this president anywhere in the world and he certainly able to do his job from upstairs at the white house residence. >> i would agree. ron, or 17 people that were listed as close contacts to the president. you are on that list. we know that you tested negative today. none of the other contacts on that list tested positive yet. what do you attribute that to? is that the policies at the white house, the mitigation measures? what is it? >> first of all, simone, i don't want to spike the football or anything like that. i do think all of us have been very careful here at the white house. i mask up in most meetings. i took it off for this appearance, because the technicians are far away. i've been careful to mask since being in close contact and careful to mask most days here inside the building. most importantly, we are fully

vaccinated. i'm over 50, so i'm double boosted also. and so, we will be taking steps to protect ourselves. the most important thing is this. if one of us turns out to be a positive case, we will have the same defenses that the president has. every person in this country can have. free vaccines. free boosters. tens of thousands of locations. you could bite on covid.gov within a few miles of your house. free tests that we mail to your home. if you feel sick you could find out if you have covid or not. free treatments including the treatment paxlovid, which we have more of than any other country in the world. easy to get. convenient air nearby pharmacy. these are the things i will do if i turned up to be positive, but they're not special things for people at the white house. these are tools that are available to every person in this country coast to coast. >> given all of that, ron, i'm wondering how the white house

is preparing, because last fall we know that there was a surge in covid-19. another surge is expected this fall. are there any additional measures or precautions that are being taken in advance of that potential surge? >> yeah, someone, i think first of all, or trying to get the message out about boosters again, particularly with people over 50 who. they should get their second booster shot. we're continuing to work with the scientists who develop new booster shots, potentially for the fall and beyond. i do think the big thing that would be different from previous surges this year, is the availability of paxlovid. just a few months ago, paxlovid was not even on the market. just in small quantities. the presidents covid response worked with the drug makers to make u.s. the country that acquired the paxlovid so that people who test positive can get it who put it throughout the country, and again, it's free. you could get it at your

pharmacy with a prescription from your pharmacist who changed the fda rule to allow that. that drug, even if you're not vaccinated, reduces your chance of going to the hospital by 90%. so, the people who are vaccinated and boosted are very well protected. a test positive, whether they're vaccinated or not ill have backs love it this fall. i think it's going to make a big difference, simone. >> ron, i want to ask you about another virus that is now in the news. on saturday, the w.h.o. declared that monkeypox is a global emergency. i know the white house put out a statement. i'm just wondering, how will this impact the white house's response with the new w.h.o. declaration? >> i think since the first case in the u.s., we've been taking steps to ramp up the acquisition of the vaccine to get the vaccine distributed in this country. you will hear more about this in the coming days, symone.

we take it seriously. from communities that have been most affected, they need us to get this vaccine where it needs to get to. as quickly as possible. that's what we are working on. we want to try to contain the spread of monkeypox. they want to try to make sure this does not become an endemic virus in the united states. >> let's turn to whatever american seems to be feeling, ron. gas prices have been up, but now they're going down. they have nearly dropped 60 cents. that's according to aaa. i know that some of my republican friends were blaming you all when the gas prices were up, and now they're hitting you for taking credit. what is your take on this? >> first of all, the gas prices are coming down this summer. that's extraordinarily rare. a lot of families, three kids in the car, we drive across the country in the summer and to see gas prices falling in july, that's not something you see

very often. they have fallen every single day since the summer started. why is that? and part, it's because the president took action no president ever to. he went to the federal stockpile and deployed win million barrels of oil and to work with our allies to get them to match that to a pretty great extent. we put a lot more oil on the market. that is helping to bring the price down. we've taken other steps to try to increase production. the u.s. is going to pump more oil this year than it did most years when donald trump was president. more oil on the market. more oil being pumped here in the united states. that is having a role in bringing this price down. the last thing is the president's been very clear with the oil and refinery distribution issues in the industry of the united states. when the price of global oil comes down, they need to pass that along to consumers. the price of gas should come down even more, because the price of oil has come down a great deal. i want to see the price of gas much that and come down even more in the weeks ahead.

no more than 30,000 gassed asians in america where gas is $3.99 or lower. more than 30 states in the country. that's progress, but it's not enough. we need to keep working on this. >> as someone who goes to the pump regularly, ron, i have to agree with you. before you go, i want to ask about the president's approval ratings. to say the least, they are not ideal. the reality is the agenda -- i'm thinking about the bipartisan infrastructure law, gun safety reforms. where exactly is the disconnect here? >> symone, i think the approval reading is a reflection of how people feel what's going on in the country. some things in our country are not going well. not because of what the president is doing. but with the president is fighting against. they want to see him fight for reproductive rights. he is. he signed a very strong executive order about that. now they want to see if we are going to win that fight. they want to see the president continue to push to bring down the cost of everyday goods.

we've got a bill and congress this week to try to expand the production computer -- to bring down the cost of automobiles. we've got a bill in congress in the next few weeks to pass, to reduce the price of prescription drugs and reduce the cost of health insurance premiums. voters, i think voters are always kind of, show me, don't tell me. with they want to see is are we going to produce on this agenda? are we going to have success? are we going to be able to match bringing down the price of gas? bringing down the prices of other things, that's the challenge. that's what we've got to deliver on. >> we are a little over 100 days away from the midterm elections, ron. we will all be watching. white house chief of staff, ron klain, good to see you. thank you. >> thank you for having me, i appreciate it. >> all right, coming up, the new warning about our country in crisis from the former vice president, and i'm not talking about mike pence. also, how the january six committee could be getting

closer to an explosive new subpoena battle unlike any other fights thus far. first, of course, my colleague richard louis is with us today for the other top news stories. richard? >> simone, good to see you on this sunday. california wildfires near yosemite national parks are forcing more evacuations. it's ballooned to more than 14,000 acres and destroyed ten structures. california's governor discolored a state of emergency in the county. the fire started friday and a 0% contained. this afternoon, more than one quarter of the country under heat alerts. record breaking temperatures are possible in 20 states. the cold front is expected to move into the northeast and mid-atlantic tomorrow. the pacific northwest is looking at dangerously hot conditions through friday. officials in the bahamas confirmed at least 17 people died after a boat capsized today. about 60 people were believed to be on board. with officials are calling a suspected human smuggling operation with haitian

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there today. the former vice president was on nbc's meet the press this morning, with some dire warnings, and not just about climate change, but our democracy as a whole. >> our democracy is broken, and in order to solve the climate crisis, we're gonna have to pay attention to democracy crisis. that's the reason we can pass legislation to, for example, we install or reinstate the ban on assault weapons, it's the same reason that we can't pass climate legislation. we have a minority government. we have a filibuster, still, which ought to be eliminated. we have big money playing much too large a role in our politics. >> there is a lot to unpack in

that one statement. let's bring in my political panel, and get started. kimberly atkins, columnist for the boston globe, and msnbc political analyst and co-host of sisters in law podcast. daniel moody is also here, and she is the host of another podcast. welcome, welcome, welcome, ladies. all right, let's get into it. because you all heard al gore, our democracy is broken. kimberly, is he correct? >> he is. i mean, i think that we have to think about the climate crisis, as a geopolitical crisis, just here domestically it is the climate policy has been hand strong by the coal and carbon industry, in a way that is really making joe manchin the decider of our collective climate future in the united states when it comes to legislation. we not only of the supreme court rolling back the authority of the epa, and its general attack on the administrative states, and

making it difficult for even the agency that is set up for the purpose of protecting that environment, being unable to do that. there are some things that the president can do, in terms of executive order, but it really has to come from congress. and what this dependency, this insistence on depending on coal and other fossil fuel means is even when there's a crisis, like with the war in ukraine, what do we have to do when we could not get our fuel from russia? we have to turn to saudi arabia. imagine that being our choice, when we really should be depending, developing our knowable climate energy structure in the united states, setting that example, but that's being hamstrung and stu all of a peril. >> i mean, you really thread the needle well, i would say. i know we've had this conversation here, a number of times. former vice president al gore brought it up. i'm talking about getting rid of the filibuster. now, for folks at home, a reminder, filibuster is the rule that requires 60 votes to

pass the bill, and getting rid of it would mean you don't need 51 votes. but if you want to be really honest amongst ourselves here, we don't even have the support that needs in the senate. so, danielle, what do we do here? >> i mean, the reality is that we need to have honest conversations with our democratic establishment about the likes of joe manchin and kristen sinema, the two people who are fully against and and the racist filibuster, right and the fact that joe manchin is sowing bed with coal, right? his entire family makes tens of millions of dollars a year on making sure that our environment stays as 30 as possible because that is what feels their pockets. so here, it's a conversation about building a pipeline in areas like what's west virginia, and areas like arizona. we need to not be dependent on people who are democrats by name only, because that is what joe manchin is. he wrote alongside republicans the majority of the time, and we say to ourselves, well, what

happens if we push him into the republican party? well, tell me what is worse than where we are right now. -- >> let me talk to for a second. don't interrupt you. only stay with this, because for kimberley makes an important point. she threads the needle, talks probably about about democracy from the supreme court to congress, between the war in ukraine, currently raging, affecting us. gas prices here at home, energy. and the point that you make about joe manchin is a point that i've heard lots of folks made, but the reality is that joe manchin is in the democratic party. so what do you say to folks who say, look, joe manchin is here, but folks need to do is going to look more senators? do you think that is a palatable argument here? because it is the reality of the situation of the current affairs. >> it is, symone, and you're 100% right. it is the reality. but the reality is also that amtrak just announced that they're gonna be running slower trains because of the climate issue, because of heat on the rails. the reality is, torments are being replaced in places like

london because the ground is literally not melting. so we continue to tell people that they need to vote more, and we have historic numbers in 2020. it was the most people that voted ever and an election, in the midst of a pandemic, before we had a vaccine. so, you cannot continue to tell people that they need to vote more, when they are not doing anything with the power that they are being given at this moment. so, you have to be able to do what kimberly said, which is thread the needle, which is tell the entire story. we need people to be activated to both, but how do you get into both? you can just tell them that we need more senators. do you want more senators that look like joe manchin? or do you want more senators like look like elizabeth warren? and how do we do that? we do that by telling the truth. >> well, danielle moodie, this is why you host the woke a f podcast, because you're telling people the truth. okay, i can go all day on this one point, but we have to talk about list cheney before we leave here, because as folks know, she's there publican member of the house select january 6th committee.

she's the vice chair, and from my perspective, she's making news all over the place, she said the dam has begun to break, and that more people are speaking up about what actually went down on january 6th. and earlier, just today, she hinted at who else may appear before the committee sometime soon. take a listen. >> is your committee planning on talking to ginni thomas, even though her lawyer has expressed a reluctance to cooperate? >> we are. the committee is engaged with her counsel. we certainly hope that she will agree to come in voluntarily, but the committee is fully prepared to contemplate a subpoena, if she does not. >> all right, now, that is jimmy thomas, the wife of the supreme court justice, clarence thomas, i'm talking about the one who was texting big players and the plot to overturn our democracy. so, kimberly, if jeanie thomas does comply, what you think testimony actually can add to this investigation? >> well, one thing we've seen how thorough this committee is at pulling every threat

associated with january 6th. and we already know that not only was ginni thomas present at the stop the steal rally, not only has she been an active part of the maga associated movement, trying to keep donald trump in power, not only does she make calls to people in arizona and elsewhere, urging them to be a part of an effort to overturn the election. we know that donald trump thought that a part of his plan included a supreme court that would back him in the event that he made a challenge to the election. so, that, enough, without even knowing everything else that we would need ginni thomas to testify to is more than enough to make her an important witness in this investigation. and we see vice chair cheney taking that very carefully, and making it very clear that they're not gonna take no for an answer, when it comes to testimony. >> we will absolutely be watching. for the ginni thomas testimony. ominous day on liz cheney right now. i want to bring our friend,

host of screen share here on peacock. michael, thank you for joining this political panel. the avengers, today. we welcome you. i want to talk about liz cheney because she, as everyone knows, has been vocal about her feelings about the former president during the january 6th hearings. which is been taking that message further, and just this past week, she talked to a group of what i would call hard-core republicans at the ronald reagan -- take a listen to this. >> this moment, we are confronting a domestic threat that we have never faced before. and that is a former president who is attempting to unravel the foundations of our constitutional republic. we have to choose, because republicans cannot both be loyal to donald trump and loyal to the constitution. >> so, michael, liz cheney is one thing, right? but then, we've also got the new york post, which is a murdoch media member, saying that donald trump should not run again. so, is donald trump actually

losing his grip on the republican party? and if so, are we gonna see any of this reflected in the midterms? >> sure, it's no coincidence at the new york post or wall street journal, both papers which are owned by rupert murdoch, who also owns fox news, have begun to take a very stark stance on that position to the former president. what's also interesting is that you are beginning to see them embrace one desantis. you are beginning to see some of the fox news commentators, even hosts, begin to talk about ron desantis and a more significant panel, in regards to the fealty to the republican party, in regards to a possibilities maybe if he doesn't decide to jump in the 2024 contest, and run. and for the most part, a lot of those polls are beginning to look more favorable for the governor of florida. i think they're a lot of republicans that i've talked to who are strategists. who worked for the rnc, who worked for the congressional committee, who worked for the committee, they are all open to the idea that it's time to move on, and it would get someone to

be galvanizing the trump base, we can also bring some of those swing voters. you can perhaps help republicans break and some of those suburban-ites at the party lost. so that's an individual that's likely in the best interest of the party moving forward. symone, people want to move on from donald trump. and i think the former president needs to accept that reality. >> i have so much to say there, shermichael, but you are gonna have to leave it there. shermichael singleton, and my back lady ventures, kimberly atkins stohr and danielle moodie, thank you all very much. okay, still ahead, one month after roe v. wade was overturned, how much reaction is turning into real action. comedian and actress amanda sales shares what she's hearing and saying on tour, i'm gonna chat with her, next. d saying on tour, i'm gonn

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countries have taken to the streets to show solidarity. planned parenthood, a woman's rights groups, have mobilized, trying to find ways to get women to other states for the health care they need. president biden signed executive orders, aimed at preserving reproductive rights. vice president harris rallies to state legislatures. and congress is trying to codify rights into law. but we've also seen 26 states take steps to ban or severely restrict women's right to make a decision about their own bodies. and we've heard talk, otherwise maybe on the chopping block. i'm talking contraception, same sex marriage, and even murmurs of interracial marriage. about a month ago, i did a gut check with actor, comedian, and activist, amanda seales, and she told me, our system was broken, and in her words, we need to be revolutionary to fix it. so, of course, i brought amanda back, and want to continue that conversation. so, here with me today, is my friend, amanda seales. amanda, greetings! >> greetings. >> welcome. tell me, how are you feeling one month since roe. how are you feeling?

what are you hearing in the streets? >> i mean, i think like many folks, i'm feeling very frustrated and worried. and angry about this happening, and about what's impending the doom that is coming down. and also, just feeling like, there isn't a strong force on the behalf of folks that aren't feeling this way, to actually counteract what's happening. >> on the streets, you don't feel like but there is -- we talk about keeping that same energy last time. >> there's people in the streets, but like, the people in the building behind us, like you know, they don't embody the same energy as so many people on the streets. and i think there is a real genuine this illusion that a lot of people feel, who supported democrats forever and ever and a day, and want to see them show up in a different way. i think there is some people who are just like, don't say anything about democrats. if you support democrats, and support democrats. you see, that is the difference between us here and over there. because they are blindly supporting whatever, and we should be actually challenging our elected officials, to show

up in ways that make us feel like they are representing us to the fullest. >> so and speak a little bit to that. because last time you talked, you said no to the idea to, essentially, working within the system to change things for people that look like us. you say, it is time to be revolutionary, like the founding fathers or. you talked about the fact that sway holders, but also, they've started a revolution to start this country. now, the founding fathers, there were a lot of things -- >> i don't even like that name. >> let's not go down that road there. but i would say that the system has that's currently set up, is one that allows for change in various ways. and one -- >> where do you come up with that? >> well, yes! because voting -- >> because you have a show. they are repealing all these voting rights! >> what are you talking about? the system doesn't offer change. there's an election this year. there's an election next year. help, if you look in virginia, there is election every year that you look there. >> it's all gerrymandering. >> are you saying that there is no space for change in the

current system that we live in? >> i am saying, the problem is, the space for change also allows the space for regression. so, this whole space for changes exactly why there's a lot change now and the president of roe v. wade. there isn't any space where actual, secure certainty, because the system is really based on just, moving with whoever is in power, and right now, we are seeing that, the people who are consistently getting more and more and more powered, do not even represent the majority of the people of this nation. >> so what is your solution to that? >> i don't have one yet. if i would, i would be on the front line, but i can tell you, now, the solution that i have absolutely identified is that continuing to think that a system that has been broken over and over and over again is not a sign of sanity. it is the truth, it's that we have identified that this system was built in a flawed fashion. >> of course. >> from the beginning, so it was flawed from the jump. and we don't continue to identify those flaws, because that's the other part, right? we are actually watching a

genuine effort, concerted effort, made to hide those laws. do not even teach history, to really try to pretend -- >> these are going to meet across the country, yes. let me challenging with this. i don't put words in your mouth, but it sounds to me that you are someone who believes that we need a new system, -- >> 1,000,000%. >> but the way that the system is currently set up, i call it that designated survival theory. the system always has a contingency plan. so, we, in my opinion, one could use all of our energy in trying to tear down a system that literally has a perpetual cell faced fist, fail-safe to what we -- or, we can use the tools that we have to infiltrate the system, and work to change it, but do you think that's a futile -- >> i think singularly, that's a single effort. i think revolution has a multi approach, and then their needs work happening inside and outside. >> i agree with inside, outside approach. that's something we can agree on. don't tell me i have to rent, which have everything else before we end this one? >> girl, follow me on

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clarence thomas has threatened to rip away one of the lgbtq+ community's most significant victories. i am talking about marriage equality. and he did so, with just a few words and his concurrent opinion, praising the reversal of roe v. wade last month.

the lawmakers have now sprung into action, with the house passing a bill, gotta find marriage equality into law. surprisingly enough, they respect for marriage act got the support of 47 republicans. but it was posed by 157 others. but until the bill, you know, comes to the senate, we already know what's gonna happen. so, here are some republican senators. and this is what they are saying. take a listen. >> i have also made clear my support for gay marriage, years ago. >> it's up your messaging bill. i mean, it's obviously settled into law right now. >> i support same-sex marriage. i have for a few years now, several years. >> this is about creating drama, not about creating policy for them. >> there is very little that passes the democratic house, that i'd be interested in supporting. >> now, a lot of republican detractors say they will oppose the bill, because it is unnecessary. marriage equality is settled. it's not going anywhere, they say. does it sound familiar?

well, as you all know, i will not be gaslit, and you should not be either. when they are threatening your rights, it's not time to get comfortable, it's time to get codified. so, joining me now is someone who knows all about that. democratic congressman and co-sponsor of the respect for marriage act, ritchie torres of new york. welcome to you, congressman. thank you so much for being here. okay, so, the level of republican support for this bill, i think would have been unthinkable, even just a few years ago. but, this also comes at a time when homophobia in the republican party, let's just say, it's getting more and more normal. just look at the comparison of lgbtq+ people to quote on quote, rumors groomers. they are being targeted. so, what do you make of this disparity? >> well, notice that none of the republicans made arguments against the merits of the bill. because the overall majority of americans, democrats or publicans, for marriage equality. i have to say, i'm optimistic

at the passage of marriage equality act in the senate. all 50 senate democrats are committed to voting for the bill. you know, five republican senators, who either will vote, or likely vote for the bill. there are about 37 republican senators who have yet to take a firm position for and against the bill. then, all we need is five of those republicans to break the filibuster, and in shrine marriage equality in federal law. >> so, you are optimistic. so, then, what is your response to lawmakers who say, the bill is unnecessary? >> i mean, that argument is absurd, because the greatest threat to personal freedom and privacy is the right wing radicalism of the supreme court. and the supreme court is able and willing to fundamentally dismantle rights that have been put in place for more than a century. like, justice thomas announced to the world that he is on a mission to overturn substantive due process, which is the basis

for privacy and personal freedom, the basis for the right to marry, both inter racial couples, and same sex couples. and so, if the supreme court moves in the wrong direction, we have to enshrine that federal law, and added lee at protection, for same-sex couples and interracial couples. >> i think, you are championing this bill, and in your work here, and the work of your colleagues in the house representatives has been remarkable. and i am for -- there's optimism about this bill passing, and frankly, it's comforting. honestly, i do really feel gaslit every time i have this conversation with some of my republican friends, or even some of my not political friends, if you will, who say that, you know, the democrats are being dramatic, that folks aren't coming for privacy, they are not coming for contraception. they are definitely not coming for same sex marriage, and it is very prevalent on the right, this idea that we, in fact, are

being dramatic. and i wonder if you have experienced that conversation because i know that you have been at the forefront of many of these fights, legislatively, for a while, not just in congress, but when you served in counsel, in new york? >> i mean, i've heard those exact arguments. i had the honor of presiding over the debates and the vote around marriage equality, and that's exactly what i heard from the house republicans. this is not a hallucination. we are waiting with justice thomas wrote. he wrote that he wants to overturn lawrence versus texas, which protects sexual intimacy between same sex couples. he wants to overturn obergefell v. hodges, which protects the right to marry for same-sex couples. he conveniently left out loving versus virginia, because i suspect that's close to home, but this is not speculation, there is an opinion that justice thomas wrote for the world. he's not even hiding the fact. >> he is not even hiding it. he is making it plain. my last question for you,

before you go, sir, do you know if any of these efforts that are underway to codify other pro-lgbtq plus court decisions, specifically, thinking of the 2020 ruling that expanded employment protections to lgbtq+ americans? because before that ruling, a president could be fired for their sexuality in 27 states. >> exactly right. so, in the house, we passed the equality act, protecting lgbtq communities from discrimination in matters of employment, housing, public accommodation. but the bill continues to languish in the senate because of the law to the path to progressives the filibuster. but i'm hopeful that we have a fighting chance of overcoming the filibuster, in respect to marriage equality. you know, d.c. is a place that not just disappoints, but every some often, there's pleasant surprises, and one of those pleasant prices could be march equality. it has to pass and the u.s. senate. >> all right, we have to leave it there, and thank you so much.

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culture corner. i've got some awesome culture critics with me today. my friends are. back claudia jordan and clint latham are the host of tgif. welcome y'all. all right, clint, i like this bookshelf in the back. it's giving. so, i want to start with -- i want to start, i came here quick, you all got here quick, we are good. i want to start with black panther, okay? because we are four years after model released the original black panther and we finally have the trailer for the long awaited sequel, wakanda forever. take a look at this one moment of the queen angela bassett. >> are you of the most powerful nation in the world! and my entire felony is gone. >> i have given everything. >> well you, have discussed so insane. yes, angela bassett, lupita nyong'o, mckayla cole, who are you most excited to see here?

>> i'm huge angela bassett fan. and when she cries, it makes me want to cry. like, her attitude surprise me, that moment, it's like, oh my god, i have to see this. and then, i'm watching. >> yes, yes, quinton, how do you want to see the late great traffic boseman commemorated, if you will, in this film? >> with ticket sales that go to the roof, with a legacy that's codified through this movie just doing great things. i also want to point out, i think this edition of black panther is going to be one for black women. it looks like it's definitely going to blend women in power, with a movie, and i'm really looking forward for it today. >> i can't even think about that point. but the trailer, i think, drives at home. i can't wait to see what happens with that. okay, i wanna talk about zac efron, because he posted a picture that really set the internet on fire, and he sure wasn't even off, right?

the picture showed him outside of the high school, where the original high school musical was filmed. this comes, a few weeks after his old costar, vanessa hudgens, did the same. that's another story. claudia, what do you think is a reboot in the works? or is this about grown people hand hanging outside a high school? >> i want to say i like how he posted the black power fist. i'm gonna go ahead and like that picture. to see that? >> i say that! >> now, i don't know if -- clinton, i don't know if i saw black power here. i don't know if i saw black power. do you see what claudia saw? >> i don't see black power. which i see as somebody potentially making a cameo, because there's never a right time to leave l.a. and go to utah. so, i think he and vanessa both going there, a week apart, suggesting they are probably doing something with disney and the former cameo, which as high

school musical fans, we would love to see. i >> think we all love to see cameo. i mean, this photo has more than 4 million likes. so, people want to see it happen. so, are we saying we are talking about a high school reunion, if you will? are they going to college? what's going on? >> you know, it's not -- i don't know, in the past, on the series in this meet, some of the other costar's in the movie have actually showed up in various capacities capacity, as cameo star. so, there may be different roles. he may come on as a substitute teacher, who knows? i mean, zach was 18 when this movie came out. and basically, set his career on the trajectory that it's going now. he is 34 now. high school musical was a long time ago, but they now got about two generations of fans, just about with a disney reboot. so, we will probably see him in some different kind of role, or whatever, that is a new to the new generation, but nostalgic for us, old days. >> very nostalgic. i'm not old. i'm seasoned. claudia, are you too groomed

for a reunion? >> you know, i didn't watch any of those shows. that one episode. >> claudia! >> i know, i'm sorry. i am really a news nerd, girl. and i like horror films and documentary. so, i'm so sorry to not have that much contribution, so that's why i probably went with a black power thing, obviously. >> claudia, okay, we are gonna need to discuss this off camera. i can't believe you have not seen high school musical! how about this? how about taking the midnight train to the kennedy center honors in december, because that is where icon gladys knight is going to receive her flowers. so, do you want to see anyone in particular take on this impress of souls music during the live tribute, claudia? >> who could do that, do her justice, though? you know what i'm saying? well, someone that's not here anymore, aretha franklin.

you know, she is on a different level. like, that's the kind of level that she's on to me, so i'm just like, i hate tributes when they get the wrong person to do it, and it's like not strong enough. it's like the ideas, it's like -- but when you have such an comic voice, and a career like that, it's gotta be tough, tough shoes to fill, what do you think? >> it can't be that hard. we already know the two tribute greens are jennifer hudson, and fantasia. those are the two -- >> thank you, of course fantasia has the oldest one now! >> those two ladies on the list, and they are equipped to saying, it's grown lady music, i'm talking about grown ladies who have slipped under the age, and still with stockings to church. okay, grown ladies music, and every record label, who has a female under the age of 35 needs to have that artist in attendance at this thing, so they can see what real music is,

what's real instrumentation is, and that is massive, they're putting on the radio these days. >> i absolutely agree. the kennedy center needs to go ahead and hold the section off for the music industry, and they need to go ahead. somebody called alicia butterfield jones, and have the grammys get a section. claudia jordan, quinton latham, thank you to you both. claudia, we are gonna talk about you in a little bit. thank you so much everyone! thank you for watching symone on the sunday fun day. it was a lot of fun. as you see, we covered the gamut. i am symone sanders, and you can catch me here on msnbc, weekends at 4 pm eastern. and anytime over on peacock, where i have new episodes on msnbc, every monday and tuesday. hit me up on social media to. you can find highlights and news, and just exciting things in the works for the show on instagram, twitter, and even, the tiktok. politics nation with a great reverend al sharpton, starts right after this short break. ♪ ♪ ♪ t after this short break ♪ ♪ ♪

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