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politicsnation. tonight's lead, the heat is on. jim only where six select committee has wrapped up its summer session, leaving us with a picture of a former president who pushed our democracy to the

brink. only blinking when it was clear his desperate power play would not work. even the trump friendly new york post now admits his silence that day was -- but now we must shift focus from trump to the toxic legacy he has left behind. the political climate where tensions are at a boiling point. washington post reports many trump endorsed candidates are framing the midterms in civil war like terms, telling supporters democrats hate them personally, and will use riots and a police state to silence them. the ideas fueling the ultra maga movement on the far fringe, but the candidates, they are seeking major -- running for governor in

pennsylvania and maryland, arizona, ohio among others. all over the map. the republican party is falling into line behind them. if elected, many make no secret of their willingness to help trump return to power by whatever means necessary. it's up to democrats now. to turn up the temperature on these far-right figures by exposing the extreme views for what they are. offering up more positive vision based on helping americans, rather than dividing them. joining me now, south carolina congressman jim clyburn, the house majority. and a member of the congressional black caucus. congressman, thank you for joining us. i want to get your take from the january 6th investigation. let me go right there. rather than focus on trump,

let's talk about some republicans who are running for office right now. take a look at part of an error that ran thursday during the hearings. >> we will never give up. we will never concede. >> i was there. >> i was in washington, d.c. on january 6th. the fbi did read my house. >> it was nothing, it was just patriots standing up. >> i will continue to say that until my last dying breath, the election of 2020 was stolen from us. >> congressman, these are republican candidates who were present on january 6th or defend would happened, and are now running for governor for the senate and congress. how should people cherish our democracy respond to this? q very much for having me, first of all, believe me say this. i always try to put things in

different perspectives. i really sincerely believe that we are at a point in our overall growth and development that we should take stock of what history teaches us. these denials are people who seem to feel that this country, this greatness of it, should be, for just a few, you seem not to want to see our country exist for everybody. we have weak links in our society. we have to strengthen those links and we have communities that need to be uplifted. big when you feel that you have to have the political process, that famous you and those who think like you, you are not participating in the democracy at all. they are denying the results of

the election and they are denying what they see on television, what they hear from this president. they are denying what his advisers said, we are going to just declare victory and said that days before the election took place. and said exactly what they were going to do and they did that. they are denying that it happened. so i don't know what you do. when people don't think for themselves, people who have such low confidence in their own human intelligence, they have to wait for somebody to tell them what it is that they think and what it is that they see, and with it is that they hear. that, to me, makes it almost impossible to speak to a person -- >> and you know, we are talking

about a threat opposed by ultra maga -- maga candidates. we know maryland, the american maryland denier down cox -- the democratic governors association ran an ad touting for nearly three weeks, because they believed he would be a weaker candidate in the general election. is this a wise, political strategy, congressman? >> there's a bit of reticence about that sort of thing. i remember way back when the thought was that ronald reagan would be the weaker candidate. how did that come out for us? i just believe that you run your best candidates. -- you put before the american people the contracts between you and them. the contrast between what they proposed and when it is that you are proposing. and they put it out to the

american people and let them make their own decisions about where they want to go when it comes to voting. i don't like these cute little gimmicks that people use. i don't like, as you know, i'm a guy that says that, you know, he's soundbites kill you. they do sometimes, there's no harm -- they do more harm than good. you better be careful. let's just tell the american people who we are. draw a contrast between us and them, and then live by the result. >> congressman, as majority would you have special insight into the democratic policy of gender? right now, i know the house just passed the respect for marriage act, and your colleagues in the senate have reached a bipartisan agreement on revisions to the electoral count back. we had minnesota senator, amy klobuchar, calling for lowering

the cost of prescription drugs. what else can the democratic congress can get done before the midterms? i said to her yesterday, i said to cedric richmond, one of your protegees, i'm hearing all over, blacks, a lot of people are saying, what are they doing? i'm not seeing a reason to vote. what can be done, and what do you say to people that say, why should we vote for the democrats? we did not get the job -- we didn't get the george floyd bill? where do we get it. >> first, but i would say to them is take a look at who controls the house. democrats do. every single thing that you just mentioned already passed the house. [inaudible] would you want to do? stay away from the polls so they can't even get it passed the house? we still have a chance that

passing these things in the senate. but we already passed the house. so you get so angry, because the senate didn't pass it. stay away from the role -- the polls if you have no reason to vote. vote for me. vote for the house democrats. we passed every one of these. and we reduced the price of prescription drugs. we brought down insulin to $35 per month. come on, now. don't cut off your nose. we've done everything these people said we ought to do. we've been working hard to try to get more votes in the senate. that's what we got to do. i've been reminding people, when we passed the voting rights and civil rights act in 1964 -- a year later and 65. women got fair housing three years later in 68. it did not apply to the public

sector until 1972. we go implemented lee. if you don't get everything this year, go to the polls in november. we will get the rest of it next year. the glass is more than half full. we win these elections in november, the glass will become full. if we lose in november, we already gained could very well be lost and then where are we? >> and i might add for our viewers that you were involved as a civil rights act on the front line. you're not talking from some lofty -- before i let you go, congressman, i remember the best moments we have together. we honored you with an award named after your wife. i want to know congratulate you for receiving the naacp --

khan the spring of metal just a few days ago. i want to hear your thoughts on a tribute. you and other democratic leaders -- doctor mary mcleod bethune. how did it feel to see her statue unveiled in the statutory hall in a spot formerly occupied by confederate general, especially at a time where we are still coming to terms with how that very special room in the u.s. capital was disrespected on january 6th, 2021? >> thank you very much for your congressional tory comments about that award. it was first given in 1915 and the recipient was one of the founders from my fraternity. i am so proud of it. when we unveiled that statue,

it became my time to speak. i talked about her last will and testament. mary mcleod boone was the greatest person to ever live. biggest thing you will see in my office is a picture of mary mcleod bethune. this woman, had 50 cents in her pocket. she goes to florida. she hooks up with some benevolent people. she found it is now the bethune college. this is an incredible thing for florida to do. i'm going to thank the state of florida, thank the legislators out there at the state level that proposed legislation, and the congressional delegation for allowing me to be a part of it. i want to thank the speaker of the house for choosing the statutory hall --

to pioneering women. it was one of the proudest moments of my life. by the way, i think it was 1935, 36, she also received -- from the naacp. i want to thank the naacp so much for giving me this great honor. it is. it's an honor. for anybody, it's an honor. >> all right, many thanks for having you with us again. south carolina congressman, jim claiborne, the whip. joining me now is steve bullock, the former governor of montana, and who is now coach of american bridge 21st century. thank you for joining me today. governor bullock, it's great -- >> it's great to be with you, how. >> governor bullock, your organization is suing the federal election commission for allowing former president donald trump to raise and spend

donor money, while not officially filing a campaign for president in 2024. can you explain why you think what trump is doing is illegal, and what should be done about it? >> absolutely, reverend. look, a year ago, july 2021, mr. trump told sean hannity that he had already made a decision about ronny. just a couple of weeks ago, he said to a new yorker, that the only question is when, before and after the midterms. so, what he's been doing is basically taking 100 million dollars in the super pac, using that as his piggy bank to be running for president right now. and federal election campaign act says, as soon as you decide that you're actually gonna run for president, you have made that personal decision, you have to announce, you have to file. that limits the contributions coming in, and it actually makes it, so it's a fair

playing field, not only just for publicans, but for democrats. this guy has violated the law every step of the way, and now, he is doing it, running for president in 2024. >> so, let me be clear, he has 100 million dollar super pac that as long as he does not file as a presidential campaign, he does what he wants. but according to your lawsuit, the minute he has made up his mind to run, he supports the file, and that falls within the governance of the campaign laws, which they are not doing with all of his money in the super pac. >> that is right, reverent. he's traveling all around the country. he has facebook ads, not only for him, but against president biden. and once you become a federal candidate, you are limited to $2,800 from contributions, from individuals from packs. and what he's doing is using 1 million dollar pack. i'm sorry, 100 million dollar pack to finance these efforts. at the end of the day, this is

just actually about making sure that for once, mr. trump actually follows the laws. >> now, former president trump would say on america front, just days after losing the 2020 presidential election to president joe biden, when the group reportedly has, as you said, more than $100 million in the bank, quote, formidable watchers, according to the associated press, representatives of trump didn't immediately respond to a message seeking comment on the suit your group launched on wednesday. however, trump's spokesperson has previously said the american bridges complaint was without merit, and accused democrats of resorting to quote, she gimmicks. what's your response? >> yes, cheap gimmicks are never following the law. look, at the end of the day, literally, a year ago, july 2021, he says to sean hannity, i've already made up my

decision. he said in other things on the 45th and the 47th price, i mean, the idea of following the federal election campaign act of 1971 isn't some cheap gamut. it's what we should all actually expect. and his own piggyback, and spending a well, not only takes democrats and distract them from how they ought to be going, but even to the residential primary, you know, we would expect everyone to actually follow the law. so, i'm looking forward to this. we brought this in federal district court. we're gonna make sure that federal election commission actually does this its job, and looking forward to the outcome now. >> let me ask you this. the house select committee investigating the capitol hill insurrection late in the latest hearing in primetime last week, with a presentation that illustrated former president donald trump is responsible for the violent attack on the u.s. capitol on january 6th.

and in an attempt to overturn the 2020 election results. now, you are a lawyer, and you served as the attorney general in montana. what has been your reaction to these latest hearings? >> look, my reaction to these latest hearings and all throughout, i mean, congresswoman cheney said it probably better than anyone else good in the closing. somebody that acted like donald trump did should never be able to hold office in this country again. and, as you talked with congressman clyburn, look, we have 35 different candidates, republican candidates running for governor in 20 states, who denied the results of the election. you have nominees in michigan, and pennsylvania that were actually add the insurrection. so, we need accountability. i think they've done a great job with these hearings. at the end of the day, though, democracy is a process, right? elections are outcomes. we need to protect that process,

and it's good to see more and more folks engaged, and saying that we can't have things like what happened, and we certainly just can't -- >> finally and briefly, the midterms, you have experienced winning elections in a deeply red state, as a former governor of montana, from your perspective, what do you think is the biggest clarity for democrats this midterm election season? >> i think, when it comes to democratic governors, there is an example, they are already both boosting the economy, strengthening the economy, standing up, and also, the fact that standing up for a woman's right to make her own health care decisions in reproductive rights. i mean, that scenario where once again, the republicans, they may say one thing over the last four years, but they may try to strip away the right, and make it highly, highly dangerous for people, in every state across this country. so, we need to continue,

certainly, on, and the economy will continue to get better, as we get to the midterms. but we gotta show the work fight individuals best interest not just in sort of the craziness of the election deniers, or people trying to strip away health care rights. i think democrats will be doing that in these midterms. >> steve bullock, former governor of montana, thank you for being with us. after the break, and you kind of crisis is here hitting many vulnerable americans, and some of your neighbors could use your help. i will explain in today's rise up. and later, over the rhetoric fueling fears about political violence after the attempted stabbing of a republican candidate for governor in new york this week. new polling suggests that the situation is getting more and more dangerous. but first, my colleague richard louis with today's other top news stories. richard? >> rough, a very good deal. some of the stories that we're watching this hour for you.

presidential biden's covid symptoms continue to improve significantly, says white house physician, dr. kevin o'connor. dr. o'connor said the president completed his third full day of treatment on the antiviral paxlovid saturday. symptoms are now mostly confined to a sore throat. biden tested positive thursday. the white house, saying, he is fully vaccinated and twice boosted. grain exports from ukraine are set to resume today, after russian missiles struck and odessa port. the attacks took place saturday, just one day after ukraine and russia agreed on a deal that would allow the resumption of vital grain exports to the region and beyond. and pope francis arriving in canada today for a weeklong trip. the pope calling his visit a pilgrimage of pendants, during which he will apologize for the church's role in the abuse of canadian indigenous children in catholic schools. more politics nation with reverend rev al sharpton, right after this short break. ♪ ♪ ♪ gh after this short break after this short break own your copd,...

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of whom are that black and hispanic, inflation is devastating. that's because inflation, so much of the income for those communities come and goes and ghost or chance protection, housing, food. the cost of those essential items are rising far faster than average salaries. all the americans are feeling similarly squeezed as they try to make due on fixed incomes, or social security. some had made the tough decision to come out of retirement and go back to work. at the very moment when the job market seems shaky, and shakier than it has in many years. during the pandemic, we went out of our way to check in with our elderly. and the volunteer food pantries. there was a real sense that all of us were in this together. now that mandates and

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strategies. rick, first to you. two major publications are dumping donald trump for head of the potential 2024 election gig. the wall street journal in the new york post both published editorials saying trump does not deserve reelection. these two papers have been friendly to trump in the past, and are owned by rupert murdoch who also owns fox news. what do you make of the fact they're turning on trump now? >> too little too late. remains to be seen. fox news, which does have an editorial -- -- pointed out that wall street journal particularly pointed out that pence proved himself to have character on january

6th, and donald trump was there leaked in his duty. he was in fact not the commander in chief of the united states. he was the commander in chief of the insurrectionists. that was also clear in the hearings. i don't see trump's team or anybody who was in the white house or anybody -- he dishonored the men and women in uniform of law enforcement. he was a disgraced himself. >> the problem in the homeland security is conducting a criminal probe into the missing text messages from the secret service of january 6th, and the day before. the lack of transparency from the secret service raises some troubling questions about whether americans could trust the organization that is supposed to protect every u.s. president. what are your thoughts on?

this -- some of the a slap into the belief that the secret service is above reproach. and we are sometimes shocked into remembering that it is a department of the government. as in any department it can have lapses. i don't know if that is the case in this case, but it is very suspicious of all the days that you would want to make sure that you preserve documentation in case it became evidence, because very likely, it could be evidence that that data has been erased. that is incredibly suspicious and it goes to this long track record of issues with the secret service. >> they were told tonight -- and they did it after the

instruction. rick, the man accused of attacking republican congressman, lisa lyndon, campaigning for governor in upstate new york, remains in custody today after being slapped with federal assault charges. the suspect was arrested after rushing to the stage at an event near rochester. would appear to be a weapon and grabs zeldin's arm before both men fell. zeldin was not injured. we don't know exactly what motivated the incident and the suspect may have been intoxicated. but it's a scary reminder that our politicians from both parties face real risks. you see davis survey reveals 20% of americans think political violence was at least sometimes justifiable. how can we lower the temperature in our political discourse, before some type of tragedy takes place. >> well, i think politicians

have the responsibility and public officials have the responsibility to say things that are responsible. a good example is when donald trump in the middle of a riot texted that mike pence had betrayed him -- that did not calm the rioters down. that provoke them to more violence. it's exactly that type of thing. we have to be really careful in today's world, because i also noted in that study that the group that has the highest propensity toward justifying violence, or both on the democratic and republican side, and also heavy social media users. that means buyer, beware. we have to do more to get people to understand that everything they read indulge themselves and on social media is not necessarily true. we need to make sure the cooler heads prevail. political violence should be swiftly condemned and punished. >> >> charles, this week, the

federal reserve is expected to raise interest rates again in an effort to obtain soaring inflation. according to new polling, 37% of americans say the economy is the most important issue ahead of the midterm elections. do you think this will be the issue that the sites many races this fall? >> i think it will be. i don't think the people are lying to pollsters when they say -- it's the reason that part of their thinking when they go to the polls. but i think there are social issues that may not be a top of mind, when people think about it. but it goes into a general feeling about whether or not you feel safe, as a society, whether you feel or not supported in society, whether or not you feel attacking society, whether or not you feel oppressed and society. i believe what is happened with a supreme court and will be a huge factor for a lot of people. and that may might not be the majority of people who responded to the polls, because that includes a lot of men who do not feel especially about this as women do.

i think, if you look more closely at women's issues not that abortion is only a woman's issue, but it mostly affects their bodies, right? so if we look at how women might reform, i think there's a lot of tension. do they care about inflation? absolutely. do they care about the the price of gas? absolutely. they also care about whether or not they can make decisions about their own bodies, and whether or not they are leaving to their daughters a worse world than they had for themselves. and i think that they will carry that as well into the voting booth, and we have no idea at this point how that will turn out. >> all right, charles blow speaks with passion and drives with passion. rick tyler, thank you both for being with me. after the break, a powerful and inspiring documentary shines a light on how the american medical system fails black mothers, and how grieving families are keeping the

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reproductive health care, black women in the united states have been suffering rising rates of maternal mortality. the issue is now the focus of a new documentary streaming on hulu. the film follows the deaths of two black women, after complications for giving birth. and families are now turning to maternal health activist, as they pick up the pieces, and deal with the aftershock. >> our maternal health community is really pushing for change on capitol hill, trying to bring about different legislation in order to make sure that women have the care that they're supposed to. >> i can't let amber be another statistic. i'm making people aware of what's going on in the systems. i >> plan on spending a

lifetime with amber. i want to give her my life. this way, i'm still going to. >> joining me now, the co-director of aftershock, the brilliant tanya louis lee, who i have known for many years, and i'm so proud to see her behind this film. you know, tanya, when they were showing some of the footage there, some of the activists marching on washington, denying that -- remember, when you started working on this, your husband, the oscar winning director, spike lee, said tanya has got a big one. and you know, real actor circles, you're not known as spike lee's wife. you are known as tanya's husband. that's the only thing. >> i say that. >> cbc reports that black american and american, indian and alaska native women are three times more likely than their white counterparts to die

from pregnancy related causes. those statistics, we don't often talk about, but that you address and your film. it's the high rates of sea section among black women who are more likely to get c-sections than white women? why is this happening? and why is it an issue that needs to be addressed? >> well, rev, first of all, thank you so much for having me on. and i appreciate the opportunity to talk about aftershock today. you know, i think that the high rates of c-sections happen for black women, often because black women are not really supported in their choices of how they want to birth. so, and what i mean by that is, we do have choices in the way we want to give birth we convert and a hospital, we can birth in birthing centers, and we can birth at home. and birthing really should take place spontaneously. unfortunately, too often, because we are the most vulnerable doctors wanna hurry

up, russian, induce us, and then rushes and to see section. sometimes because they're not listening when we talk about our pain our issue. so, c-sections have something to do with the high rates that black women have when we are dying from childbirth complications. but you also have, people not listening that women say that when they don't feel well. it's really important to listen to black women when they're talking about their bodies. >> your film takes a deeper look at the history of black midwives and how the medical isolation of birth has stripped most of them the ability to practice in the early 19 hundreds. in some cases, black practitioners were even find. since that time, nonprofits like the national black midwives alliance has worked to support black student twice. what do you see practitioners of color playing in addressing high black maternal more more

mortality rates? >> first of all, i think i love that the national black midwives alliance is around. i think it's really important to educate people about midwives in general. the united states is the only industrialized nations that does not have midwives integrated into the health care, and better outcomes, our outcomes are significantly better than ours. so, midwives could play a major role in helping to bring these rates down. and so, i also think it's really important that we bring more midwives in general, into the care of women, birthing people. and particularly, black women. right now, the middle every profession is 87% white. they know they have issues, and they have a lot of work to do. we also need more black ob/gyn. we do need obstetricians and gynecologists. the really important, and we need to bring more black folks like that into the profession

as well. >> now, part of your documentary focuses on the women's partners, because both men have become activists as well, raising awareness of the issue. how can fathers play a role in overcoming the problem of black maternal mortality? >> yeah, we follow a person who lost his partner in october 2019, and brutalized his partner amber in april 2020. and what has been so beautiful to see, talking about the fact that it's a terrible brother that no one would want to be a part of. and yet, there is a brotherhood. if they see someone is passed away, these brothers reached out to that rather, and say, i've got to. i'm here for your support. so, they are supportive of each other, and then, to watch how activated they are for the community, they are doing work not just for their own families, but trying to bring birthing centers, but trying to bring

them to the bronx. he already has a wound bus that is driving around the bronx right now, offering health care to women. omar is painting portraits of women. he's also an activist as well. they were recently at the white house, talking about paternal mental health. and that's and succeeded that the film is igniting, because people don't think about fathers and the role. but fathers have a huge role to play in taking care of women, and their families. >> finally, what are some possible solutions to the problem of black maternal mortality, but you've seen implemented already, and what would you like to see, going forward, tonya? >> yeah, i think first and foremost, i think health care providers really do need to become sensitized to their own biases, whether they are implicit or explicit, understanding that the way they treat women has serious implications. communication amongst health

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would not pull over. so, they followed him into a home, in oakland, tennessee. and beaten. the second story, in mississippi, where a police chief was fired, after a leaked recording of him bragging about killing 13 people in the line of duty, and using the n-word repeatedly, especially when describing one black person, he says he shot 119 times. the racist and homophobic remarks were made during an april conversation, and were recorded by a black man who resigned as an officer from the lexington police department last week, due to what he described as a toxic work environment. so, even as we look at other things on the headlines, racism, misogyny, and homophobia is

happening every day, which is why some of us do this and continue to raise these issues and fight these cases. let us not forget them. in grand rapids, we have a police woman indicted for the victim that we're monitoring, shot him in the back of the head. and let's not forget, brittney griner, sitting in a russian jail. she should be sitting at home. there is a lot that we have come coming out of, but it cannot be who we can't handle all of it, and fight on many fronts, for justice is there, if we demand it. and you can't fight for yourself, if you don't have the willingness to fire across the board for others. that does it for me. thanks for watching. i'll see you back here next week at 5 pm eastern. american voices with alicia menendez starts right now. on msnbc.

starts right thank you so muchd sharpton, for the powerful reminder. hello everyone. i'm alicia menendez. we begin this hour with the unfinished work of the january 6th committee, and the trail of bread crumbs the committees leaving for the department of justice to follow. the committee has now connected the dots, showing trump's full throttle attempt to overturn the 2020 election. but, there are still facts uncovered, as the committee carries on with its investigation, and prepares for a new round of hearings the september. committee member, elaine luria, this morning on meet the press. >> so, liz cheney made the dam is broken. so the floodgates are open, i think initially planned the arc of the story, the information the way we present that through these hearings, we thought that the hearing this week would be the final hearing. but so many more witnesses have come forward, you know, we've got to new information that we are requesting and receiving as well from the secret service, and there's just a lot of