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everybody. i'm yasmin vossoughian in for another hour of news. the january 6 committee may be pausing hearings until september but their investigation is moving full steam ahead. committee members fanned out on the sunday shows making it clear they hope the justice department is listening to them. >> there is a massive difference between i'm going to prosecute the last administration for political vengeance and not prosecuting an administration that literally attempted a failed coupe. >> i sure as hell hope they have a criminal investigation at this point into donald trump. congresswoman liz cheney dropped what may be the biggest piece of news over the weekend saying the january 6th committee is prepared to consider a subpoena for jenny thomas, wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas. >> we certainly hope that she will agree to come in voluntarily, but the committee is fully prepared to contemplate a subpoena if she does not. i hope it doesn't get to that. i hope she will come in

voluntarily. >> meanwhile, the former president had a lot to say about the investigation this weekend as he and his former running mate, mike pence, faced off on opposite battle lines in arizona's dramatic gubernatorial primary. and georgia governor scheduled to testify before a grand jury as p as it looks into whether president trump and his allies try to overturn the 2020 election there. we have a lot to cover this hour. vaughn hillyard joining us, barbara mcquade, betsy woodruff swann, msnbc contributor and greg bluestein, political reporter for the "atlanta constitution." betsy, we just got some new video in tweeted out by

congresswoman elaine loria, talking specifically about those minutes. this is trump in action, video we haven't seen, including trump's inner circle. we'll talk on the other side. >> i'm not sure when those conversations began because they could have started early the next morning, but i believe they started that evening, on the evening of the 6th. >> i thought we should give the statement on the 7th and obviously move forward on transition. >> i sat with her, i spoke to miller about trying to put together some draft remarks for january 7 that we were going to put together for the president. we thought it was important to call for further de-escalation. >> and of course we saw some outtakes of the former president kind of working up those remarks on january 7th after the storming of the capitol on january 6th. betsy, talk to me about how some of this video, some of this

testimony that we have not yet seen fits into the story line so far. >> what it points to is just the level of persistent frustration that some of the people who were closest to trump on planet earth felt at the end of january the 6th. just at the dearth of condemnation that they heard from trump at that point regarding the violence that had played out, clearly the top white house officials left the white house that day deeply dissatisfied and frustrated with the president's failure to call for calm, peace, de-escalation and for an end of political violence. this was something that bothered not just attorney eric hershman, one of the president's closest advisers on january 6th, but even trump's own family members, ivanka and jared trump clearly felt the president needed to do a lot more the next day to try

to make this country safe. if anything, it just captures the sense of persistent danger that continued even after the capitol building was officially cleared. >> barb, committee members all over the sunday shows yesterday. we're now seeing this video being tweeted out. it seems like it's a bit of a p.r. campaign. stick with me. obviously we have wrapped up the summer sessions. we know there are more to come in the fall, but it's obvious the committee members do not want the conversation to stop. they want to keep the january 6th investigation top of mind, even if that means we're not going to see any testimony between now and september. >> yeah, it seems clear that they want to keep the momentum going. they don't want people to forget about all the things that happened in the month of july. no doubt they still have hours and hours and hours of video clips that they did not get a chance to show during those hearings so i think if they're being very strategic, they would do just what they're doing there and say here's something you haven't seen before that can be

very compelling. i think the outtakes of what donald trump refused to say was very powerful information. so their job is different from that of a prosecutor. no doubt they want this to be part of the calculus when the elections come around and they want people to keep talking about this. liz cheney talking about ginny thomas. that i'm sure was very strategic to get people talking about that. >> betsy, pick up on that. we got a couple of things to hit while i have this panel with me. and that is now this information from liz cheney talking about a possible subpoena of the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas. i talked to zoe loftgren.

it seems their opinion has changed. >> this is a committee that has a high comfort level by taking quick, controversial steps to try to bring in anyone and everyone who they think might have the most remote prayer of being helpful to them. they've gone as far as subpoenaing the former white house council, the leader of the house republican party, kevin mccarthy, in a step that really crosses an internal congressional rubicon, trying to force members of the house to testify under subpoena. in so many other cases the committee has been no holds barred but in this one case involving ginny thomas, they're treating her with an unusual level of deference, unusual kid gloves and the fact that even now cheney goes on the sunday shows and says they might think

about a subpoena when ginny thomas's lawyer wrote a letter saying they're not convinced they have to. >> in voluntarily. it's a we're aberration, it's an exception to the rule and this still seems to me that the committee does not view her as a high priority witness. if they did, they would have subpoenaed her. they've subpoenaed almost everybody else. >> we're going to put that in betsy's bucket of weird. barb, with that there is this intense focus on the department of justice and how they're going to move forward. take us behind the scenes because while this investigation is happening with the january 6th committee, the department of justice is also doing its own separate investigation. what does that look like? and is that part of really the hold up as things play out? >> i think some of the things that are likely going on behind the scenes at the justice department are some things that are not available to the committee.

number one, using search warrants to get communications records. the text messages, including encrypted text messages that can be retrieved from people's phones. we know they have obtained phones from members of the oath keepers and stewart rhodes, the head of that group and enrique ontario of the proud boys. the other thing they're likely doing is flipping some of those people. those people who agreed to cooperate are no doubt going in the grand jury, trying to work their way up the chain to get to that willard hotel war room. if they can get their way into that friends of stone group chat or link up to rudy giuliani, mike flynn, others who have ties to the oath keepers and the proud boys, they may be able to tie donald trump to the

seditious conspiracy charge. >> so if they move forward, we're going to know. that will come public with criminal charges. if they do not move forward with criminal charge, will we be told why? will the american public be told why? >> that's a great question. in ordinary cases the answer is no. i think in a case of this magnitude there needs to be an announcement that they are declining charges and an explanation as to why. it can't be done the way it was done with hillary clinton, which is disparaging the person, but i think that the country would demand and really deserve an explanation as to why if it doesn't happen. this is something that typically was never done before but i think in recent years it has, especially in cases involving police shootings when the evidence isn't there. the public is so deeply concerned about the facts of the case that they deserve an explanation when charges are declined. i hope the justice department understands there will need to

be an explanation as to why charges are not brought. let's hope we never get there. >> we know where barb stands. talk to me about the split-screen moment, vaughn. you got the former vice president, the former president both in arizona. talk us through how this all played out and wondering if this is just kind of the beginning of what we're going to see happening across the country. >> we're talking about potential political -- or potential charges from the d.o.j. against the potential future political leader of the republican party. can you have a debate over who is the leader today but donald trump is positioned to be the nominee for this republican party in 2024. you saw donald trump campaigning in front of thousands of people in arizona, alongside his picks for governor, secretary of state, u.s. senate on down. but then on the other hand, you had current arizona government doug doocy, along with former vice president mike pence

campaigns for the opposing candidate for governor there. karen robeson, we've talked about the small cracks in the republican party apparatus but we're far from seeing a gorge that begins to split this party away from donald trump. does mike pence, doug doocy, do they begin to open up and take a shovel and try to build up a resistance on the right within this party here? and this often comes down to local levels. rusty bowers, one of those individuals who faced pressure from trump allies to overturn the election results in arizona and appeared last month in front of the january 6th select committee, he was also at that event. i want to let you hear from speaker bowers when i asked him whether this was a fight for the soul of today's republican party. take a listen. >> everybody's got to reassess do we want to be a party that's looking into the

past with some kind of grudge match all the time or do we want to start solving the problems of a biden administration that has just gone amuck. >> ultimately voters dictate politics so often here. there's been a lack of pressure on the republican leaders to get the republican party to separate from donald trump. the question is does mike pence really try to take that mantle in these months ahead. there was a tweet as mike pence was leaving arizona and donald trump was flying in, he said in part, if the republican party allows itself to become consumed by yesterday's grievances, we will lose. >> wow. it's astounding what is happening right now. just mind blowing. okay, greg, that brings you into the conversation as well. so from arizona we're going to move over to georgia, fulton

county. the georgia governor testifying before a grand jury pertaining to the case of the former president trying to overturn the election results in georgia. talk us through what's happening. >> a special grand jury has rapidly expanded, prosecutors have subpoenaed members of trump's inner circle, informed the 16 fake electors here in georgia they could be targets of criminal prosecution and now governor kemp is delivering videotaped testimony. he's being sought as a witness, not a target whatsoever. many have heard donald trump's call with raffensperger purging him to reverse the election results. we are -- we've heard indications that this testimony could involve donald trump's personal attempts to overturn the election results and to get governor kemp to play into this plot and of course as we know,

governor kemp and other republican officials here stood their ground and said no to donald trump. >> thank you guys all for sticking with me. i appreciate it. we have a lot more coming up this hour, everybody. this morning we're tracking a county commissioner's meeting in uvalde, texas. what it could mean into the investigation of the devastating school shooting. plus, the largest school district in florida has just rejected its new sex ed textbooks. right now there is no sex education curriculum for miami dade students. i'll talk to a school board member about that we'll be right back. a school board member about that we'll be right refresh yet. ♪ ♪ aleve x.

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19 past the hour, everybody. happening right now in uvalde, texas, the county commissioner's court is meeting to discuss the response to the massacre at robb elementary. it's coming days after this

critical meeting was postponed. the board was set to decide whether to fire school police chief pete arredondo, who is on leave. senator, it is good to talk to you as always. talk to me about the postponement and the fact that arredondo has not yet been relieved of his duties fully. >> obviously it's a great concern they put this off. i understand it's for some legal reason, the attorney asked for a deferment. i hope that it happens in short order in the next few days. this community is demanding accountability and they deserve it. they deserve transparency, they deserve answers, accountability and accountability means, you know, looking at people's jobs. but it shouldn't stop at pete arredondo. the report that was done a week ago was very clear. other agencies with superior

manpower and fire power and ammunition and training should have gone in, including the sheriff's office, the police department, the state troopers, which are the guys that are under my purview. my hope is that the governor, who these guys direct report to, begins to ask for accountability. here we are over 60 days away from this horrible mass shooting and greg abbott has failed to act and ask for accountability of steve mcgraw, who has done nothing but finger point, nothing but false narratives on the day of this incident, his officers were there, his texas rangers were in the hallway, on the phone with somebody. we want to know who he was talking to. >> you talk about accountability and you're looking at all the investigations simultaneously. you had the report released last week, you got the county commissioner investigation being launched, you got a technical as dps investigation launched as well, right. what accountability comes out of

all of these various investigations? sure there's some filling in of the gaps when it comes to missing pieces, but where is the accountability? what happens from them? >> jasmine, it has to mean jobs. the people in charge of these agencies need to quit, resign, be fired. let's be real clear. steve mccraw did nothing but finger point the last several weeks on this instance. his own officers were in that hallway, 12. at first they lied and said there wasn't 12 in that hallway. finally they agreed there was 12 in that hallway. you have a state trooper on the phone. who is he talking about? is he talking to steve mccraw? to people below steve mccraw? we don't know those answers. independent had to file a lawsuit to try to get those answers. unfortunately it remains to be seen that we're going to get the kind of transparency and that's why i demanded-to-get those answers at the courthouse.

greg abbott can ask for that accountability, he can ask for those jobs right now but he refuses to act because he's stuck in his own ambition and unfortunately to the detriment of the people of uvalde, he refused to act. >> these kids are go to be heading back to school. it's going to be traumatic for that community and for the kids that are going on with the kids that are no longer with them. what are the results for the kids as they prepare to head back to school on august 15th? >> it's my hope that they plus up the number of officers. they had six officers for eight campuses. that's just not sufficient. i hope they'll be able do that. i don't want to step into their lane too much but we are 24 days away from school starting and we

still don't have a governor to call a special session to increase the age limit. 20% of these people involved in mass shootings under to years of age. under no circumstances should an 18-year-old have access to an a.r. rifle. greg abbott can do something and he refused to. >> state senator ron gutierrez speaking out against this shooting. we just got an update on the president's condition saying that his blood pressure and testimony are absolutely normal, no shortness of breath and completed his fourth day of

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all right. right now in indiana, lawmakers considering new abortion restrictions in the wake of the supreme court's decision last month overturning roe. the indiana general assembly just opened a general session and vice president harris meeting with leaders to protect reproductive rights. shaq, good to talk to you. talk to us about what the indiana general assembly is going to be looking at during this special session. >> well, there's a few difference pieces of legislation that they will be going through. by far the most controversial is the one dealing with abortion. you have the indiana state senate considering a bill that would be a near total ban of abortions in the state of indiana. now, there are some exception. there are exceptions for rape,

incest, the life of the mother and some fetal abnormalities. this is going to be likely if it passes a dramatic restriction on the right women have to abortions in the state of indiana. it is going to be met in protests, one scheduled to start in a couple of minutes and kamala harris just got off the plane, just landed in indianapolis. she said she was there because this is one of the first states that is having a special session in the wake of the dobbs ruling overturning roe v. wade. i want you to listen to what she said about her message as she meets with lawmakers there. >> we are clear that it should be that woman's decision, not the government telling her what to do with her body or her life. and no one has to give up their faith or their beliefs to agree that the government should not tell somebody else what they should do. it should be a personal decision

based on what people value and what are the most intimate decisions any person can make about their life and their family. >> the vice president will be meeting with lawmakers having a roundtable discussion. this is not the first time she has met with state lawmakers as legislation regarding abortion is being considered. it was this weekend, saturday, she was in virginia meeting with lawmakers there, having that same message that she believes that the administration wants to fight for abortion rights and while they don't have the votes to codify the right to an abortion at a federal level, she wants to be on the front lines talking with those dealing with this battle at the state levels. >> thank you so much. while you have access to reproductive care limited in states across this country, other resources are under fire as far as. right now in miami-dade, there is no sex ed curriculum after

the board struck down a previously approved textbook. "the washington post" calling it a test of the state's new parental vote. this book was approved three months ago and it is now no longer part of the curriculum, leaving miami dade students without any sex education. what's happening here? >> this was part of the bill in which parents have an active voice relative to materials adopted by the school district, specifically with sexual education. the school does have the opportunity to adopt those materials itself but it deferred

that particular decision to the local school boards. we adopted those three months ago pursuant to state statue and school board policy and involving parental engagement and involvement. most recently on the heels of some contention from groups that do not have children in the school system and other parents who expressed some concerns, we've taken a position to quite frankly defend some student and deny the majority of student in the miami dade county public schools and deny access to this critically important information. >> florida goes back to school a little bit earlier than the northeast and other parts of the country. they're going to be without sex ed. is there a plan on the docket to look at a new cripple luck? -- curriculum?

>> one of the things that we have to do is launch this process all over again. because it is so inclusive, it does consider community engagement and from experts, it can be quite exhaustive and it can take four to eight months for this to be under way. in the interim, you'll have middle and high school student without access to this critical information during this very important time. it's very exhausting, very engaging and very time consuming. and it's a process that we successfully implemented -- >> please continue. >> it's a process that we successfully implemented with fidelity, all is dotted, all ts crossed, pursuant to state statute and school policy. let me say parent who have some exception with the material that's being presented to

children pursuant to state statute and school board policy, they can actually opt out of their children being provided this information. but what we have done in this particular case is deny an entire district of student who would need this information that is critically important to not only their learning but to their lives and this, again, is a requirement of the state statute relative to health and reproductive education. it's a requirement of the state that we are facing being able to not provide at this particular time. >> astounding. thank you. coming up, a global health emergency over a virus spreading pretty fast and experts saying we don't know enough about how. sound familiar? what we do know about the monkeypox virus, how to fight it and where those efforts are falling short. that's coming up next. s are falling short. liberty. liberty. ♪

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all right. welcome back. so right now there are more questions about the monkeypox outbreak after the w.h.o. declared it a global health emergency. here in the united states, at two of the cases are in kids. dr. kittell is a former white house policy director. blaine, let me start with you. how are folks reacting about this latest declaration from the w.h.o. and monkeypox? >> sure. i think it's a growing concern everywhere, but also here in georgia there are a number of cases here. just like around the country we've seen cases here in georgia rise over the past couple of weeks or so. the state health department put out a release saying they've got a limited amount of vacciness are enough for 1,500 doses and they really are prioritizing the

metro/atlanta area, fulton county, the most populated, biggest areas here in the metro area. at the cdc we're seeing the concern growing among experts. they've been tracking these numbers for quite some time. when you look at the comparison and talk about less than two weeks or so ago there were about 1,400 cases. now that number is up to nearly 3,000. so we're talking about a very quick increase in a short amount of time. when the world health organization made this declaration over the weekend, they said quite clearly we don't know enough about how this is spreading this is not a new virus but it is spreading quickly in the united states. after speaking with someone over the weekend who is fighting this, he says one of the reasons he spoke out, that he wanted to speak publicly about this is because he believes there's just not enough information out there about this and that's something that the world health

organization making this designation is essentially hoping to raise the alarm, the flag to world leaders to say this is a problem and something we need to do more about and coordinate a global response to this. >> doctor, talk to me about this declaration. the world health organization doesn't often declare world health emergencies when it comes to viruses. they have now done it to this. it allocates resources, which is something they want to do. have you seen monkeypox in your practice or in the hospital and what are symptoms as more and more cases are growing in this country? >> yeah, i'm in the d.c. area and i have seen it. interestingly enough, many of us, including myself, would have probably made alternative diagnoses had our awareness not been heightened about monkeypox. people are not coming in with what i would call the previous

textbook examples, fever, lymph node swelling, had the flu and then they saw the rash? it's kind of a reversal. rashes we can see them around the mouth and the face area and then on the arms and hands. we are seeing rashes and we're seeing them in the anal and genital area. we're seeing rashes that could be confused with something like shingles. that was the case i had this past week with a patient. i would have not thought about monkeypox had it not been for the fact that we're in d.c. and there a growing up in of cases here. in general the symptoms have all been traced to close contacts, household contacts, even children in the united states. there are not enough vaccines to go around but we can test and try to contain this. isolation can take a long time. this isn't like covid. i'm hoping the biden administration can put in

supports in place for people who have to leave their jobs. >> what's the treatment, dr. patel? >> there is a treatment reserved for more severe cases. the treatment that i'm personally familiar with are self-limited. they can be very painful rashes. we're reserving the treatment, it's called t-pox. we're reserving that for more severe cases. it's an oral treatment that you don't need to take at home but by and large most cases resolve on their own but it can be be very painful going through this with a rash or other symptoms. >> you talk about isolation. now we have children diagnosed with monkeypox. it's a heck of a lot harder to

isolate a young child than it is an adult. how do you refrain from spreading in your own family if there is a child infected with monkeypox if we get to that level that it's that pervasive? >> i was speaking to a family who asked the exact same question. in this case we have some familiarity with covid. we're asking people in a household, they have to wear an n-95 mask, asking them to wear eye gear and gloves. what we want to avoid anybody touches not only the washes. and as you mentioned, and blane touched on this, we're still trying to unand while researchers look into it, the basic still apply, hand washing, hygiene, not sharing clothing, household items or dishware or things like that. those things we did in covid to

protect household members still apply here. >> dr. patel, thank you and blaine alexander, thank you as well. let's turn now to gun violence. the latest, a shooting in the san pedro naubd of los angeles. two were killed when shots rang out during a car show and baseball game. gun violence is something the stevens familiar family knows all too well. last year as lance stevens was doing yard work, a random shooting shattered his life. lance and his mother were injured and the two young children were traumatized. >> night shot, man. >> reporter: indianapolis couple lance and his wife, sophia, tried to build their life and

nonviolence but last may a stranger with a gun found them anyway, piercing the family's peaceful suburban life. in a blink lance and his mother joined the estimated other 100,000 americans who survived gun violence each year. >> he pulled a gun on my son's head. >> lance of shot in the head and leg. kim, dropping off her grandsons caught a wave of bullets in her arms, chest and face. >> i don't know why he came over there and why he shot us. >> reporter: lance and kim are morning the nearly 750 people shot in indianapolis last year who survived. >> this is dead right here. my implant is here but down here, this is all dead. >> your arm, your chest and under your jaw? >> yeah. >> reporter: kim has permanent scarring from puts that punctured her face, shattering

her jaw bone and several tee. at what point did you realize just how badly you were injured? >> i kind of still don't even realize it now. >> reporter: wounds that you can see and wounds that you can't. >> i have terrible nightmares waking up thinking people are going to shoot me. >> reporter: lance and sophia's 3 and 6-year-old sons were there that day. neither boy was harmed physically but both are processing trauma. the oldest boy, l.j., saw his father stumble into the house. >> he's already seeing me, my head bleeding. my son is like i don't want to be without you. he's saying like i don't want you to die. >> the younger sound was asleep in the back of his grandmother's car. the family assumed the 3-year-old saw nothing. in therapy, they learned he was stuffing it down. >> he just unloaded and we were amazed.

>> reporter: there are other costs, too. repairs to their bullet-ridden home, the loss of a vehicle and the family says $35,000 in medical bills combined. as the family tries to move on and make sense of what happened, i asked what they'd say to lawmakers who are reluctant to make gun reforms a priority. >> shame on you. just shame on them. unless it actually hits home maybe to their kids, their grandmother, you know, maybe if it hits home to them and they can actually see it. >> reporter: through it all, they still find hope and light, and they're standing up where bullets almost took them down. the suspect who allegedly shot stevens and tillman was the grandson of a neighbor whom they had never met. after the shooting he led police on a chase, allegedly shooting and injuring one officer before he was shot and wounded himself.

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>> i know. i wish i could say tomorrow. i wish i could say the next day. but we are stuck in this pattern. we've been stuck in this pattern for about a month. we have high pressure anchored in place. we're staying with these patterns that just won't move. it's literally a heat pump bringing in this hot air. we're just getting started in the pacific northwest today. we're looking at temperatures into the triple digits and dry conditions. people in the central and southern plains have been suffering for about a month and two weeks. they're going to continue to see really hot weather. in the northeast, hot once again today. that is where we're going to see some relief tomorrow. we're going to talk 80s and low 90s. just not the blazing heat we've had. 97 today in portland, 103 in

fresno, 104 in tulsa, feeling like 110 in houston. and d.c., you factor in that humidity before the cold front moves through, it's going to feel like 105. tomorrow another hot day, triple digits in medford, 100 degrees in salt lake city, phoenix 99 degrees. we're looking at some relief in the northeast as early as tomorrow with temperatures in the mid 80s. >> 108 in medford, that is hot. that wraps it up for me tomorrow. i'll be back tomorrow at 10:00

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