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the january 6th committee is not done, collecting new testimony for hearings to come in september. today we'll be seeing never before seen footage from key depositions including jared and ivanka. they are still seeking ginni thomas, wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas, he was e-mailing john eastman, author of one of the failed plots to overturn the election. they say they may subpoena her. >> the committee is engaged with her counsel. we certainly hope she will agree to come in voluntarily but the committee is fully prepared to contemplate a subpoena if she is not. >> cheney is not deterred by the prospect of losing her seat in congress because of trump's organized opposition as punishment for her role spear heading the investigation. >> if i have to choose between maintaining a seat in the house

of representatives or protecting the constitutional republic and ensuring the american people know the truth about donald trump, i'm going to choose the constitution and the truth every single day. >> this hour i'll be joined by two members of the committee, republican adam kinzinger and democrat zoe lofgren. in ukraine, president zelenskyy is condemning russia's missile strike on odesa aday after agreeing to finally let millions of tons of grain ship out. he has not been seen or heard from in two days. his personal physician has still not briefed in person, but the president's doctor now says in writing that mr. biden's symptoms have almost completely resolved. we expect to hear a pretaped address from the president this hour after his fourth full day

of treatment with paxlovid. i'll be speaking to a leading climate policy expert. nearly 50 million americans continue to struggle through an oppressive heat wave. we begin this hour with congressman adam kinzinger and the january 6th committee's work. i want to play an excerpt from a new video released this morning featuring testimony related to president trump's january 7th speech that your committee showed excerpts of during last week's hearing. >> do you recognize what this is? >> it looks like a copy of draft of the remarks for that day. >> as you can see throughout the document, there are lines crossed out. there are some words added in.

do you recognize the handwriting? >> it looks like my father's handwriting. >> in my view, he needed to express very clearly that the people who committed violent acts and went into the capitol did what they did should be prosecuted and arrested. >> it looks like here that he crossed out that he was directing the department of justice to ensure all lawbreakers are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. we must send a clear message not with mercy, but with justice. legal consequences must be swift and firm. do you know why he wanted that crossed out? >> i don't know. >> they did not represent him or his political views in any form

or fashion. >> he also has crossed out, i want to be very clear, you do not represent me, you do not represent our movement. do you know why he crossed that language out of the statement? >> i don't know. >> congressman, this seems to be more evidence that president trump was pushing back against any condemnation of the rioters the day after the riot. what is your interpretation? >> it's more evidence that he sat for three hours not doing nothing, but proactively resisting pressure to do something, because i believe he wanted to see where this would go. it's like let's see how this develops over the next what would be three hours. and then, of course, very tepidly only when compelled and when he realized that the battle for the capitol had basically

shifted in favor of law enforcement did he come out with very weak statements. he still said this is what you get when you steal an election in a tweet. the next day, again, it's a matter of i don't want to disavow these folks. they're fighting for me. anybody that still believes these conspiracies that it was antifa or fbi directed, then obviously president trump loves antifa because he's continuing to say these are my people. look, this is just more evidence. we could have had a five-hour hearing on thursday, but we had to keep that to 2 1/2 hours. more evidence will come out. >> let's talk about ginni thomas. your colleague liz cheney said you are contemplating subpoenaing her if she does not appear voluntarily. how long are you going to wait to see if talks with her attorney bear fruit? >> that's an attorney to attorney conversation. our folks on the committee are

very good at knowing when they're being played versus when it's a legitimate negotiation. they will come forward and say if we get to that point, hey, it's time to subpoena. ginni thomas started out as an interest. we had a few pieces of evidence that we had seen. and then it just grew, particularly with some of the eastman memos and conversations reaching out to state electors. we want to have a voluntary conversation. she said i think somewhere in the media that she was eager to talk to the committee. that's it. come in, let's talk. we will subpoena her, but we prefer to just find out what she knows. >> if she said she's eager to talk, why is it taking to long to secure her cooperation and her appearance? >> that's a question for her and the lawyer. we heard through anonymous sources that secret service was eager to come in and testify on some of the limo incidents.

they haven't come in. it's one thing to put stuff through anonymous sources or to say something in the media, it's another when you have your lawyer saying we need to do this a little differently. if we have to subpoena, we will. we're going to get to the bottom of as much as we possibly can. hopefully the department of justice, not related to our investigation, is looking at potential crimes here. >> to the secret service. they still have not come in. they say they they cannot recover the text messages from january 6th. >> certainly an issue we're talking about. there's a lot of behind the scenes conversations going on.

we'd much prefer to get stuff voluntarily. could it be simply not keeping records? possibly. could it be a coverup? possibly. we don't know the answer to that. we do know there are some questions out there. we do know when you roll over technology, you're required to keep records. we want to get that answer as best we can. that's why we decided we're going to continue the investigation over the summer even as we begin to write some of the interim report. >> is that the key piece you want to nail down, the secret service cooperation and what happened to those texts? >> you know, it's a part. i mean, again, we still have people coming in around the edges. we're going to follow up with some witnesses that maybe gave us answers that now don't really make a lot of sense with more information that we've gotten.

so we have a great investigative team that has done a lot of work over the winter leading into these hearings and they're continuing it over the summer. this committee in congress is something quite historic. unfortunately, probably will never happen again in terms of pulling to the direction of justice. >> you've created a lot of information about what was happening during those 187 minutes. have you nailed down anything more about the president's communications with rudy giuliani during that period? >> you know, what we've presented is a significant amount. we know the conversation. obviously one thing we can't do and subpoena is get what was said over the telephone. it's usually what's called call detail records, which is who called who, how long it lasted. obviously if people turn over their text messages, we have that. there's probably going to be some information that without certain people coming in and

telling us the trut will have to be left to a little bit of mystery. what we've presented i think is compelling enough to say the president absolutely knew what was going on and he chose not to defend the article of the constitution. >> in terms of any further communications between the president and mark meadows, are you any closer to understanding those conversations? >> yeah. i mean, we have some understanding. there's some stuff that we haven't presented. you may see more in the report. you may see more in future hearings. first off, mark meadows has been one of our star witnesses. even though he's not cooperating, the initial tranch of texts.

he has refused to cooperate. we voted to hold him in contempt. the doj has so far not taken action. i hope they do. i hope he decides to voluntarily cooperate. but if he doesn't, he doesn't. we'll find the information as best we can. >> you said after thursday night's hearing that clearly the president has criminal exposure. can you fill in the context of what you think is criminal exposure and how disappointed you would be if doj doesn't follow up. >> look, as a not lawyer, i'm going to leave to the doj what reaches that threshold. i'll tell you looking at what we've presented to the american people, if there is not criminality in that, understanding that an attempt to overthrow the government was occurring, doing nothing behind the scenes communications, some of the stuff we're seeing out of georgia, then i don't know what is breaking the law. it's very dangerous to prosecute

last administrations. if you try a failed coup in this country and you are not prosecuted if there is evidence that reaches that threshold, i think that sends to the long-term viability of this republic a very bad message. nobody is above the law in this country. nobody. >> i want tcircle back to the secret service. does it survive the laugh test that they would do this ugrade at that critical moment in history and then not follow multiple advisories to save everything, which is standard anyway under the federal records act, and then that they would just be missing those two days?

so is that incompetence in management or is it something worse? >> so speaking as a committee member, we'll go where the facts lead us on that. speaking as my opinion, it doesn't pass the laugh test. was that a department decision, was it individual members' decisions? i don't know. it's either gross mismanagement or incompetence, or there's something else there. if you look at it on its surface, it really doesn't make a ton of sense, particularly with how the federal government is very serious about preserving records and especially on the day if you're the secret service, like january 6th. it was probably their biggest day since 9/11. joining me now, brandon buck, former senior advisor to house speakers john boehner and

paul ryan and kimberly atkins. brandon, there have been a lot of big revelations from this committee. the republican base according to polling still seems to be sticking with president trump. maybe they're reaching independent voters. all the witnesses pretty much have been republican insiders . how do you see this affecting the overall framework of president trump versus some other aspect of authority? >> let's assume donald trump is running for reelection. i think we have to assume that. absolutely this is hurting him. this is hurting him with independent voters. this is making people really question whether this is somebody who can win. i don't think it's hurting him enough that he's not going to be the nominee in 2024. he is coming to washington this week, giving a speech at his foundation. all of the republican big names are going to be there.

no one is running away from him. polls have shown that republican voters are not leaving him. that means republican leaders are not leaving him. if he gets in, he's probably still going to largely clear the field. maybe mike pence still runs. maybe ron desantis feels like this is his moment. we have talked so many times about maybe this is the thing that will finally get republican voters to move on from him and we're just not seeing it. these hearings have had a lot of political effect, but ultimately probably the biggest thing i'm looking for is whether there was a legal effect. it's not completely changing the tide in politics, but maybe a prosecution or at least an indictment of a former president could do that. >> let's talk about some of the things that adam kinzinger just said, particularly that ginni

thomas might well be subpoenaed. the timing would be in september right before the first monday in october. interesting timing. >> yes, it is. you see why the committee is taking this seriously. she has gone from saying she wanted to clear this up right away to really delaying the cooperation. as someone who was there, who was at the rally for at least part of the time, someone who was certainly urging state lawmakers and others to participate in this big lie election fraud theory that was disproven and given the fact that donald trump himself boasted about the need to get supreme court justices appointed in case he needed them for the election. that makes her such a central figure in this investigation. the committee would be remiss if they did not question her and if that requires a subpoena, that's search something that is on the table. >> jim, let's turn to the

president's health. how important is it to show the voters who are concerned about his age, that he is rebounding quickly from covid? we haven't seen him since friday. they say in a new statement from his doctor today that almost all of his symptoms are resolved. but we have not seen his doctor personally to answer questions in the briefing room, which has been standard when presidents are ill in the past. >> i think you'll see the white house address it today. i think they were very forthright getting in front of this in marked contrast to how president trump handled it. i think this is a difficult moment. the country wants to make sure the guy at the helm is doing what he needs to do. i think the white house has been really good about trying to share as much information. i would expect them to address it today at the white house podium. the country wants the president

to be okay. they're rooting for him. the president is in very good health and will continue to do his job. >> shouldn't they let the president's personal physician appear in the briefing room? >> i think they will. this happened on thursday and friday. i think this has been the standard practice in the past. there's no reason not to. i would be surprised if they fail to do that. >> brandon, let's talk about how republicans are reacting to all of this. you've got joe manchin blocking the president on climate. now manchin has covid today. again, the senate can't vote on anything. they're still down several senators. they've been snake bitten in this closely balanced senate.

what are democrats going to be able to do this summer? >> the next month is critical to the president's legacy in terms of legislating. time is up. we have august recess coming up. then it's election season when they come back. it's very likely republicans are going to be in charge next congress. i don't think it's overstating it to say the next three or four weeks, whatever democrats are able to get done is all joe biden will have to show for big legacy legislative items. they're whittled it down from something that was very expansive. now they're trying to get done a prescription drug bill, maybe a few other things on the margin. this is so critical. it's a reminder how razor thin their margin is. joe manchin is out. one senator being gone could throw away his chance to do anything the rest of the time. this has been a pretty big failure as a legislative matter.

all the things they promised their voters and i think it's a big reason why joe biden is in such bad standing. it's not just republicans against him. it's democrats who are sick of working to elect him and not having anything to show for it. >> kimberly, you being the lawyer in this panel, let's talk about merrick garland and whether you expect to see anything coming out of the justice department in the coming months, especially as donald trump may be declaring that he's running again. >> the truth of the matter is we don't know yet. we heard attorney general garland last week say, look, we are on this, this is a massive investigation, we are putting all of our resources on this. but the way that it works is not in front of the cameras. it is done in a way that everybody can't see it and people are frustrated with that.

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rare agreement to let ships pass safely through the black sea. the state department saying the attack casts serious doubts about russia's credibility as the war pushes the world deeper into a global food crisis. thank you for being with us. they agreed to finally let the grain out. there are 20 million tons of grain that have been stored. some might be rotting there and they can't get the current harvest in. now that very night they strike odesa. >> let's recall back at the start of this, what did we hear repeatedly from vladimir putin and sergei lavrov, oh, we're not going to invade ukraine, we're

just conducting military exercises. this campaign has been a stack of lies. unfortunately, everyone felt a bit hopeful a few days ago when, as you correctly point out, an agreement was reached. and then flash bang caliber long range cruise missiles hit odesa. it not only undermines the credibility of russia and vladimir putin, but it casts serious doubt on this agreement. therefore, we need a plan b. i think plan b ultimately is going to require u.s., nato, western nations to actively get this grain out. final thought here. that grain, if it does not get to northeast africa, to the

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new polling shows the january 6th committee has so far not been able to reach one of its main targets, republican voters. just 44% of republicans say they are watching the hearings. the majority of those watching, 80% are democrats. when asked whether donald trump should be criminally charged, 87% of republicans said no while nearly as many democrats say he should be. here are voters in a swing

district reacted to the hearing. >> i think they're going a little overboard. >> do you want to see donald trump run again in 2024? >> most definitely. >> i really don't believe that trump was behind it, only because he's a peaceful person. he's a peaceful man. >> are you following the hearings at all? >> yes. i don't find that they're doing anything. they just keep repeating the same thing. >> that's obviously just a sampling of negative voters. we don't know about others in that district as well. joining me now is democratic congresswoman zoe lofgren. thanks so much for being with us. i know that most of the witnesses presented were republicans. perhaps you are swaying independent voters. what about the hard core trump

base? >> in the end, i mean, republican voters are going to do what they think is best. they have that right. our job as a committee, our assignment from the house, is to find the truth and to lay it out completely. the day and the events leading up to the day and then make recommendations for potential legislative changes that could make us safer. i think it's abundantly clear if you look at the evidence that the former president assembled the mob and knew they were armed and sent them to the capitol. he also wanted to lead them to the capitol and wasn't able to do so. this plot began well before january. in fact, the former president said on numerous occasions that

there would be voter fraud before the election was ever held even though there was no voter fraud. that has been abundantly proven by republicans. with narrow exceptions, i think almost all the witnesses have been republicans who voted for trump. >> let me ask you about the secret service, because it seemed clear that the inspector general at homeland certainly does not have those personal phone rules. he looked at the official phones, did not find any texts from january 5th or 6th. are you going to try to get a hold, subpoena if you will, those personal phones from secret service members? >> we have a lot of questions about this whole secret service issue. first, the secret service was instructed on january 16th by the chairman of four committees

of the house with jurisdiction to retain all records. 11 days later they allowed the text messages to be erased. that's concerning. i have a concern about the inspector general as well. why did he wait months and months and months before telling us some of these texts were erased? and now i have a concern. i don't know whether there is a reason or not. i'm not saying one way or another whether there should be a criminal investigation. but it has had the effect of freezing the secret service from doing forensic analysis on these phones. we need them to do that. we need to get these text messages if we can. i'll say also that this is isn't the only evidence that was not promptly sent over to the committee. we have a lot of questions. i would say quite a few concerns

about the secret service. >> are you going to call in the outgoing head of the secret service and the inspector general and others to find out why this upgrade was attempted at this time during a difficult transition? >> our rules don't allow us to say which witnesses we're going to call, but i will say we're going to do a thorough examination including interviewing all of the relevant potential witnesses to this. we now know that the secret service was well aware early in the morning on the 6th that a giant mob, armed mob was assembling and we knew there had been efforts on the part of the former president to go with them. even knowing that, a rather small detail was sent with the vice president off to the capitol knowing that tens of

thousands of armed individuals were going to be there. how did that happen? >> very interesting question. how likely is it that ginni thomas is going to show up for questioning voluntarily? >> she made a public statement that she wanted to come in and talk to us. we would like to talk to her. her commuications with professor eastman are of particular interest to us. so we hope that she will do what she said she would do. if it's necessary to issue a subpoena, that's certainly something we would consider doing. but she first said she would come in voluntarily and i would hope that would still be the case. >> it's been several weeks since she said that. there's still no agreement. as the vice chair said over the weekend, are you contemplating subpoenaing the wife of a supreme court justice?

>> well, this has nothing to do with the supreme court justice. this has to do with ms. ginni thomas and the actions that she took. if we are required to subpoena her, i'm sure that's something we would consider. i would hope that she would come in. >> how many other loose ends do you feel that you have to wrap up in september? are more witnesses coming forward? >> yes. >> has the log jam been broken as has been suggested? >> there's more information coming in. there are more individuals coming in. obviously we want under the resolution that created the committee, there are two things, an interim report and a final report. likely in the fall it will be an interim report, because the minute you issue a final report the committee is dissolved. there are still people coming

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the climate deniers are really in some ways similar to all of those almost 400 law enforcement officers who uvalde, texas. confronted with this global emergency, what we're doing with our inaction and failing to walk through the door and stop the killing is not typical of what we are capable of as human beings. we do have the solution. >> that, of course, is former vice president al gore on "meet the press" not mincing his words about the severity of the global climate crisis and america's

inaction. hundreds of protesters took to streets in london demanding action after a week of smashing record temperatures. relief may some after devastating storms accompanying a cold front. in the west, hot and dry conditions g storms accompanying a cold front in the west, hot and dry conditions authorities now say is only 10% contained. joining me now is the director of thein adrian rockefeller foundation center at the atlanta council, which is focusing on climate-driven extreme heat around the world. it's great to see you. thank you for being with us. so you don't need more evidence what we are all experiencing. i'm in ansoee air-conditio studio, thank goodness, today, but that'ses a taking up a the lot of fossil fuels. the climate i crisis is here. with still solutions that can be

taken. what executive actions would you like to see the presidential take now that he's blocked by joe manchin? >> there are leaders everywhere under immense pressure to act now.es there is a raft of solutions. the first is to protect the most vulnerable people from the heat waves. you needab to know where they a and you node know how to best communicate. we believe that naming a heat wave and categorizing that heat wave where the categories are linked to your health, b not ju the weather, is the best way to protect lives and livelihoods from the heat right now. and medium and long-term, we need to make sure the billions we're investing in infrastructure is heat infored. so that the rails and the asphalt stop buckling under these temperatures. before we spend another dollar, is it going to withstand the temperatures because this is what we'll be facing for a long time.

>> how can we help the most vulnerable people? >> the first is to know where they are and how they receive information. so many b communities, includin miami-dade and los angeles, appointed chief heat officers. those have mapped the most vulnerable people where they are, the challenges they are facing, and how to best help them, which interventions can you take is how they get to work, is it about working outside, the hours they work, and so it's understanding where they are and how those impacts come. as you know, heat does not hit communities equally. so black and low income communities are disproportionately hit by this. we found in an analysis that $100 billion in impact came from worker productivity losses in the u.s. upss to 18% more of that impact came to black and hispanic workers. so it's an economic issue, it's a social issue, an equity issue,

and there aress solutions, but have to get cracking. >> what about the solutions for infrastructure? how do we build buildings that are less reliant on fossil fuels, that are cooler buildings, if you will? >> we started building our cities for an era that didn't have these temperatures. we have sealed windows and air-conditioning, black asphalt absorbs heat, glass that's reflecting on to the street and warming usit all. we can change the rooftop to a cooler surface. we can plant green roofs on top that cools the building. we can change the air flow when we redesign our buildings. we can plant urban forests. one of the most cost effective ways to cool our cities is using nature. open spaces and parks and water features, pop-up fountains, trees, nature is a superhero for sofling extreme heat. >> one of the things that is

always surprised me is that we don't -- all these years, we don't return to the prospect of going that direction. >> the reason it's so hot, we have to say it's obvious, it's because we're burning fos civil fuels.o burning fossil fuels. there's a direct correlation. we're just roasting ourseves. so looking at any energy source that does not heat the planet that way just makes good sense. so i see this conversation coming back. younv see some nuclear plants coming back online in other parts of the world and modular nuclear, it definitely should be on the table. >> you think we can reach our goals by 2030 of 30% reduction in co2? which we have committed to given the trump administration rolled back so much ask now the legislation has been blocked in the senate by a democrat.

>> it's tough to see. but it's not impossible. state and local governments are taking all sorts of actions as well. so there are some good new stories inso here about the job growth and renewables and the nature-based solutions absorbing a lot of the emissions we're having. but it's a major blow. it's going to take more than we expected, and it will test the edges. so i'm cautiously optimistic, put it's a very bitter pill. i will admit. >> we can start naming storms and start appointing heat officers and start doing things with cooler buildings and doing it at the local level. but ultimately, we have to have some federal action. thank you so much. >> thank you. we are expecting prerecorded

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