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planning to talk to ahead of the fall. also scheduled to get an update on the president's covid diagnosis from the white house. the doctors saying the symptoms are almost totally gone. i want to bring in nbc white house correspondent mike memoli and correspondent shaq brewster with where america is at with abortion access with indiana being really the focus at this moment. talk about vice president harris' trip there and what it means. >> reporter: we have seen the vice president do the event in indiana multiple times, speaking with democratic lawmakers where republicans control the levers of power and abortion access is under assault and today with the visit to indiana is we have the indiana legislature considering

what would be a total ban on abortion and we have of course a case that the president highlighted. the 10-year-old girl from indiana the victim of rape traveling to get the kind of health access she needed. this is part of what the vice president's message is today as she is the chief messenger for the administration. let's listen to part of the vice president's remarks. >> maybe some people need to actually learn how a woman's body works. the parameters that are being proposed mean that for the vast majority of women by the time she realizes she is pregnant she will effectively be prohibited from having access to

reproductive health care that would allow her to choose what happens to her body. >> reporter: we have had reporting at nbc news about the fact that the vice president is playing a front and center role generally but three issues that dominate voters' mindset. you have abortion access, gun safety legislation and voting rights access and what the vice president is doing is pointing out that often the states where republicans are in control all three of these rights are under assault and a nexus he says that really highlights the choice for voters this fall about who is calling the shots and what is at stake heading into the midterm elections. >> mike memoli live there for us. shaq, the case out of ohio, that the president talked about that has become at the center of a

flash point this 10-year-old girl who police say was raped and had to travel for an abortion. there's an arraignment today. what's the latest? >> no. that arraignment wrapped up about an hour ago and didn't hear from the suspect but the 27-year-old fuentes entered two not guilty pleas for felony rape of a child under 13. we know that the maximum sentence is about life in prison but the minimum is about ten years in prison. we didn't hear from him. there was a spanish translator that was present but this is wrapped up in that debate because when the rape was

brought to light it started a firestorm with doubt and disbelief of what happened from some lawmakers and some members of the media so that brought out of the realm of people called fake and a made-up story to something a crime and clearly heart breaking and that defendant is in jail. >> thank you both. we'll keep an eye on those stories and watching the january 6 select committee which may be done with the public hearings but not the work overall. we'll start with congresswoman lauria looking at the edits the former president may have made to the speech on january 7th. here's a question put to jared kushner. >> it looks like here that he

crossed out that he was directing the department of justice to ensure all lawmakers are prosecuted to the full extent of the law. legal consequences must be swift and firm. do you know why he wanted that crossed out? >> i don't know. >> even though the committee clearly has more material they have more people to talk to, like ginny thomas, wife of justice clarence thomas. >> she made a public statement that he wanted to talk to us. we would like to talk to her. her communications with professor eastman are of particular interest to us and so we hope that she will do what she said she would do. if it's necessary to issue a subpoena that's certainly something we would consider doing. >> remember she caught the committee's attention after

communications surfaced between her and mark meadows and john eastman, messages on how to keep mr. trump in power. i want to bring in ali vitale and john breznahan. the committee is not going dark. talk to us more about that. because we are getting the threads. vice chair cheney said they have been secret service folks and et cetera. >> leads me to think that the eight hearings we have seen by and large all were on a pretty linear timeline tracking up from the election itself through january 6 and left us with not as many cliffhangers is right after january 6, the president giving the attention on january

7, we saw the outtakes of that and now teasing us with the script of what that looked like through trump's editing process and the people around him saying for example that he didn't want the justice department to leverage the full force against the insurrectionists and another point i haven't ka and jared asked why he crossed out that these people were not indicative of him or the movement. trying to speak to trump's mindset after january 6th. i do think one of the things to end up seeing as they push forward to at least two september hearings is tracking his mindset after january 6 because the big threat at that point is whether or not they were going to invoke the 25th amendment and get him out of power. several cabinet members said

they were thinking of it. that is the thread that the committee could tug on trying to go further down the road and extending this idea and something they said all along that this is still a real threat. the idea that the elections results are still under debate is something that trump is pushing and the members of the commit tee tried to say is a real threat to democracy. i imagine as they go forward in hearings that the timeline and still very real ramifications. >> thank you for that. before the new purge bowl reporting let's talk about the ginny thomas factor if i can because nbc news obtained a letter in june where her lawyer said we want a better justification for why she should speak to you. is there a remaining path that

doesn't involve a subpoena or no? >> i think probably they'll subpoena her. it sounds like that's where they -- she will need them to go in order to appear. after the steve bannon verdict the other day this raise it is level of concern and the peter navarro trial. i think she will testify based -- i reported a long time, for a long time on the political activities. i might have been the first reporter to write about it and this goes for a long time and always been very, you know, she is a far right conservative activist and in the trump era became more so and the role may be possibly influencing justice thomas and a case that ruled

involving some evidence from the white house that president trump tried to hold back. i think this is really interesting stuff. i don't know if it helps him. it kind of feels more of a sideshow and doesn't advance the story of today but i think they try to put together as comprehensive a picture as they can and i don't know if she is ever going to cooperate without a subpoena. >> you have some reporting from punch bowl that members of congress and some members of the committee given a stipend for hiring security against the backdrop of a rise in threats for lawmakers and see the reporting that each member gets $10,000. putt it in context the importance in this moment. >> yeah. since january 6 there's been an

absolute -- the number of threats against members skyrocketed. we had issues in the past. shootings. the number of threats against individual members is out of control. look at congressman running for governor in new york. a congresswoman from washington had someone outside the house screaming at them and when the police came the guy had a gun. you know? so we have seen rank and file members, especially, you know, anybody with a media coverage or if they become well-known they get threats against them and shocking. so now what they will say is allowing $10,000 for each home for members of congress. they spend campaign money on

alarms and personal security. we have seen members have to hire security on the campaign trail and marjorie taylor greene. she spent money for security. it is not just the leaders that face threats but the rank and file lawmakers that face it online and now you cannot be too careful. the threats, sadly, turn into action all too often. >> thank you both very much. appreciate it. right now in texas jury selection in the defamation trial of alex jones for claiming that sandy hook was a hoax. the jury will decide how much he owes the families for telling the lie. a new twist into the potential interference in the election in georgia. what a judge ruled today and why

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hours as senators are churning through the bills on the same-sex marriage and reconciliation package. i want to bring in scott wong. there's a lot on congress' plate so let's start with c.h.i.p.s. what can reasonably get done before the clock strikes midnight and august recess hits? >> reporter: this is an issue that doesn't get a lot of attention on capitol hill unlike abortion and guns. but it affects nearly every aspect of life from the cars we drive and the electronics in the homes and the work. what some cabinet secretaries on

capitol hill said to lawmakers wuss was that this is a national security issue not wanting foreign computer chips in the u.s.-made weapons so there is an urgency on capitol hill. it looks like they will get it done. another bipartisan victory here in the united states senate happening this week. it will pass the senate midweek and go to the house of represents which said they are poised to pass it and send it on to president biden's desk. at the same time there are a number of other issues they try to jam into the two-week period before the august recess. one of them is the bill to codify same-sex marriage that passed in the house and heading to the senate. we don't know the status if they can recruit enough republicans to get across the finish line.

it needs 60 votes as well as in the house wildfire bills providing funding to address the fires we have seen in the west. a number of other issues. an assault weapons ban which they'll take up this week and trying to move through the house later in the week and finally adding a bill, what we call the tiger king bill which would ban the private ownership of big cats likely i don't knows and tigers across the country. a number of issues that congress is trying to tackle before the summer recess. >> scott wong live on the hill, thank you. georgia investigation into the push to try to overturn the 2020 election. a judge ruled that the district

attorney cannot investigate burke jones. so what does that mean? first the d.a. and the grand jury can be no subpoena for jones and cannot be publicly categorized as a subject or a target of the grand jury and cannot make a recommendation about jones in the final report. the d.a. can gather information about the involvement. she can't use that to develop a case against him. the charges have to come from a different district attorney. why did the judge make this ruling and what affect does it have on the investigation? >> it is a major win for burke jones and why the judge made the ruling is because the fulton county district attorney held a

fund-raiser for charlie bailey. they were both assistant prosecutors. they go ways back. they're both longtime friends but as a judge essentially said as a prosecutor to bring a case against a potential republican candidate you cannot side, align with his opponent. she still will be involved in the case but not involved in the examination whether burke jones violated a law by being a fake gop elector. >> greg, good to see you. thank you. >> thank you. live to california to a wildfire near yosemite. we are lye on the ground. you heard about the central packers five. did you know there was a sixth teenager arrested? there was a h teenager arrested?

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right now in texas, a notorious conspiracy theorist is on day one of his trial. jury selection in the case against alex jones.

why? because of lies about the sandy hook elementary school shooting that killed 24 first graders and 6 teachers in 2012. he told the audience and anybody that would listen it was a hoax. he was lying. families obviously upset sued and noun the info wars founder is looking at an economic blow that could be crippling. rehema jones joins us. >> reporter: about 100 people showed up as potential jurors in this jury selection process in austin, texas, asked a series of questions about who the attorneys would like to have sit as a panel of jurists to make a decision about how much if anything to award the families as a result of this lawsuit filed against and won against alex jones.

take a look at the jurors are asked and saying because we are getting the tweets from the affiliate with kxan tweeting out what's going on in the courtroom. a full screen i want to show you she says here that the conversation is centered around bias. a juror asks what if you think the defendant should pay every cent? another juror says it is a slippery slope. and that jury is against monetary compensation for saying something wrong. another tweet coming from avery travis inside the courtroom said many are asking for extent on how the amounts would be calculated. if you are asking someone to pay $200 million, you better have a good reason. they went out for lunch break not so long ago and should be coming back. it will be an effort this afternoon to try to sit members

of this panel for the jury to make a financial determination. what could it be? we don't know exactly what it could be because the families involved have not asked for a specific dollar amount. before this case started he put his -- filed for bankruptcy protection and claiming that he is in a negative position of a minus $20 million so it would be a question of if this family is awarded anything if jones is saying he may not have any money at all but that would have to be determined. >> thank you for keeping an eye on it. an update on the huge wildfires burning through california now. spreading more than 12,000 acres 30 miles from yosemite national park. the governor is declaring a

state of emergency for mariposa county. you can see the smoke from the international space station. more than 3,000 houses, businesses lost power why no word when they get power back. george solos is on the ground for us. you are posted a distance from the thick of this but talking about a national landmark. yosemite. this is serious stuff. >> reporter: you can see the smoke billowing there. 10% of the fire has been contained. almost at 17,000 acres of charred brush. this is awfully close to yosemite. the washburn fire that threatened the beautiful sequoias not long ago. they're trying to make sure that

the fire doesn't spread. 2,000 firefighters on the ground up against tough terrain. they rely on helicopters and water buckets to douse the flames. on top of that you have the heat obviously making things difficult just to manage and contributes to the dry conditions out here and partly what led to the fire spreading so fast. california is in a mega drought and some homes have exploded because things are so dry out here and how quickly the fire can start up. hallie? >> george, thank you. democrats are furious with disney and hulu. why? we'll explain what they are refusing to do and democrats call outrageous and offensive.

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have a super majority meaning it is a very much uphill battle for you and the democratic colleagues to try to get in the way of what they plan to do so what is your strategy? >> our strategy all along really has been to try to build coalitions of folks against the bill. we know how important it is for folks to have a voice. we have hundreds of protesters here at the state house. i know they will be here this week and next week and important for the public to weigh in on the bill and so far they do a great job of doing just that and doing all that we can to make sure and encourage as many people to speak out on the legislation as much as possible.

>> vice president harris was in the state talking about abortion rights given that access on the state level is that there's only so much the democrats can do. what is the hope of what the vice president will take back to washington? what did you hear from her today to if anything give you optimism? >> without specifics we did talk about the different type of strategies that legislators can use. we are the first state to hold a special session since the overturning of roe v wade and i think she wanted to tell us the things that the biden administration has been doing and she is been a fighter for women's reproductive rights all her life and as a prosecutor she can attest to the different

things that can happen to regards to women and pregnancy and helpful to hear from the past experiences dealing with the issue and we'll take that back to the constituents over the course of the next couple weeks. >> you have an ohio man that is being arraigned today in the rape of a 10-year-old girl. what is your message to indiana doctors that worry they could face legal action in this post-roe world we are in. >> think about that for a second. a 10-year-old girl is brutally raped and has to travel to seek

health care. that is ridiculous. and the fact that that has happened i think is now put a focus and lay on the legislation that is being proposed and it frankly goes to the extreme as to what this bill is all about and the things that we have been up against in indiana on this legislation and others as well and shows how far republicans in this state are. >> indiana house minority leader. we did reach out to the indiana house speaker. why democrats are going hard after disney and streaming service hulu. ey and streaming ey and streaming service hulu and his a1c? ron is on it.

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robbery. he was arrested with five black and latino teenagers in a 1989 attack on a white woman and lopez's conviction thrown out. i want to bring in former federal prosecutor and legal analyst paul butler. talk about whether this is considered for the family and him justice. >> mr. lopez lost years of his life and saddled with a criminal conviction. the system messed up big time. why would he have pled guilty if he didn't do it? prosecutors told mr. lopez who was a teenager at the time if you don't plead guilty to robbery we'll charge you with rape why sometime innocent people please guilty because it is too risky to go to trial and this is a growing problem in the

legal system where about 90% of people charged with crimes end up pleading guilty. people know that wrongful convictions are an issue but wrongful guilty pleas are a major problem and real justice requires looking at the issues beyond the one case. >> look at the systemic issues. talk about them with us. the case is like 40 years ago and the question folks might have is the progress since then of false confessions, wrongful convictions. >> the only reason he had this measure of delayed justice because the manhattan d.a. has an integrity unit. they review old cases. believe it or not, most

prosecutor offices don't have the integrity units and that's troubling because that's the only way to get exonerated. when you plead guilty you usually lose the right to appeal and then up to the prosecutor to correct a miscarriage of justice. unfortunately the accountability from the manhattan d.a. in mr. lopez's case is all too rare. >> what else should people know about this, paul? >> i was thinking when we have been talking it is about january 6 and anybody suspected of a crime deserves due process, careful consideration and people like donald trump and rudy giuliani. but most black and brown people had no idea it was so hard to get arrested and prosecuted. all of the data and studies

demonstrate away from equal justice under the law and the rush to arrest and prosecute we saw in the case of the exonerated six is far more typical of the criminal legal system than the special considerations that donald trump and the crew are receiving. >> thank you so much for breaking down the news developing this afternoon. appreciate it. disney at the center of a political battle but democrats versus disney because hulu which is the streaming service that disney owns is not airing certain topics korkt new reporting from "the washington post" that says hulu has a policy against running content deemed controversial. that is not sitting well with democrats after a joint ad blocked by hulu and the executive directors said that

the censorship of the truth is outrageous in their words, offensive and a step down a dangerous path for our country. any issue ad must be approved before policies before airing on nbcu proper including peacock. i want to bring in now "the washington post" reporter behind disney and hulu. michael scherer. hulu doesn't talk about its guidelines. they don't allow ads to take a position on a controversial issue. talk about the response to that and the issue of the democrats. >> hulu doesn't say what is okay and what isn't okay before you turn in an ad. whether your ad is approved is on a case by case basis. hulu has been telling people they will deal with a candidate

ad different from a party committee or an outside group. the basic idea here is that hulu want to decide what kind of tone their streaming service has. they say controversial ads for things that have nothing to do with politics are also being filtered out here, if there's too much nudity in a body wash ad or something like that they might ask for it to be re-edited. the issue for the party is it just so happens this cycle that the topics democrats are running on, gun violence, abortion and the violence on january 6th, a lot of the ads are jarring things at least by these standards whereas a republican might not have a problem over an ad on inflation and there are limited ways to reach young voters and these streaming services are really an emerging way of doing that and they're not regulated, as you said in

the same way that broadcast networks are. >> i want to get to that, but i think you hit on something that's super important here, michael which is the idea that these ads don't relate to tangential things that are on the fringes of the democrats. these are considered at least in the eyes of what the democrats are hoping for, core mobilizing issue to voters as it relates to gun rights and abortion rights et cetera. how are the democrats that you're talking to thinking about how they either work around this or maybe don't as they head into the midterms? >> at the moment they're trying to scream about it as loud as possible in the hopes that public pressure will be put on hulu to change their policies. there's been some confusion about what the actual policy is. it hasn't been clearly communicated and i think that's the stage they're at right now. i think it will continue to be an issue and more people will be watching content through these streams. disney plus will have an ad-supported platform coming out later this year and they've said they will not take any political

advertising on that platform. netflix will add advertising to their streaming service and this is where a lot of young people are. they're not subscribing to cable. they're not watching broadcast television. they only watch so much on youtube. it becomes more of a challenge and ultimately this will become an issue for congress and the regulations date back to 1934. they're pretty old and there's a lot of movement in congress to figure out how to re-regulate digital services and i wouldn't be surprised when that eventually comes to a floor vote which play not be in the next year or two years. >> right, that there is something in there because it really is in the interest of the members of congress to be able to communicate with the people they're trying to reach. >> it's such an interesting point, though, michael, because you know we've seen what happens in the sphere as it relates to

digital and social media outlets. congress has done virtually nothing with regulations there. when you look at the time line for how they might be involved in the streaming side of things and years, plural, decade plus, if not longer. >> who knows when things actually much on this? i think the dam will eventually break. twitter doesn't take any political ads right now and facebook and google are major repositories of political -- there's just a wide variety of ways of approaching this. i wouldn't be surprised also if in a different cycle and in two years and four years, republicans are the ones complaining about this. this policy is not partisan in nature and in some years they'll be republicans having their ads pulled from the service. >> michael, before i let you go.

we are in this a new landscape, now. we don't have to worry about streaming services and the show is over at 5:00, and i totally get the idea and that does present some of these quote, unquote thorn issues whether it comes like political ads and talk about that landscape more broadly and not just as it relates to the hulu dems issue. >> predicting what the total paid media spend. they put a little over $7 billion for the 2022 cycle and more than a billion would be through these over the top or device-based services for your television that it's growing considerably. it's one of the sort of hot, sexy markets right now for political buyers and there is a demographic that is unreachable or increasingly unreachable by

traditional means. so that segment of the political ad market will only continue to grow, and once netflix starts taking ads, one other streaming services become more ad-dependent, you know, that will only juice this further. >> michael scherer from "the washington post," thank you very much for that. >> thank you. >> thank you all for watching on msnbc. as always, we'll put up the highlights of the show on halle@msnbc on twitter and show number two, nbc news now, our streaming service for the nbc news side tonight at 5:00 eastern. i'll see you there. nicole wallace picks it up with "deadline: white house" right after the break. ks it up with "deadline: white house" right "deadline: white house" right after the break. the only clinically proven nutrient formula recommended by the national eye institute to help reduce the risk of moderate to advanced amd progression. "preservision is backed by 20 years of clinical studies"

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