[applause] ♪ ♪ ♪ >> and on that absolutely beautiful note, i wish you all a good night. from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thanks for staying up late with us. i will see you at the end of tomorrow. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ thanks to at-home for joining us this hour. have you ever heard of him and named daryl l k smith? if you haven't, you are

forgiven. he is no longer a famous figure. but in his day, he was a famous fish guy. a preacher and political figure. at one point, he ran for senate in michigan as a republican. in 1944, he ran for president against fdr. he ran for the ticket on the america first party, which he had founded. gerald l k smith did not go far with that bid or the bid as a republican. either if gerald l k smith, is remembered for anything, today it is probably mostly for this, this is a statue that he erected in arkansas in the 1960s, it is called christ of the ozarks. crisis of the ozarks was a suspiciously huge fund raising operation by gerald l.k. smith. he died in 1976. but that statue still stands in arkansas today. but gerald l.k. smith is about to have another moment in the public eye. because what he really wanted

to be remembered for, even more than that statue, was a nation wide movement that he tried to build. a movement that he named and that he lied and that he promoted charsley. and that he wanted to outlive him. >> the motive behind the term christian nationalist is easy to define and simple to interpret. we believe that the destiny of america in relationship to its governing authority must be kept in the hands of our own people. we must never be governed by aliens. we must keep control of our own money and our own blood. in other words, we must remain true to the declaration of independence. that is nationalism. we believe that the spiritual symbol of our statesmanship is the cross, which indeed is the symbol of christiane.

we believe that the inspiring dynamic out of which america grew is christiane. we believe that there would be no real america such as we love and for which we are willing to die if there had been no christianity. thus, when a christian is a nationalists, he becomes necessarily a christian nationalist. >> a christian nationalists. that was gerald l.k. smith speaking in the 1950s. as both as sort of a pseudo-preacher and a political figure on the american right. he was the spokesman and the founder of the movement that he called christian nationalism. and if that is ringing a bell for you at all, if it feels, despite the annoying music bed with that speech, and the guys were speaking style and all of that. if that language he was using feels like it rhymes a little bit with today's news, you are right about that. >> republicans really need to

recognize the people they represent, okay, their voters. not the lobbyist honors, not the corporate backs, not those people. that is not who the republican party should represent. we need to be the party of nationalism, and i am a christian, i say proudly. we should be christian nationalists. >> we should be christian nationalist. you are seeing that, that phrase and that sort of branding from the trumpiest members of congress. that is georgia republican congresswoman marjorie taylor greene. you are also seeing it all over the place, and headlines, about the way the trumpiest part of the republican party is kind of branding itself these days. christian nationalism on the rise and republican campaigns. christian nationalism is reshaping the republican party. >> the reason this christian nationalism thing is an awkward fit, the reason it's maybe not going to be an easy path for today's republican party, or at least it shouldn't be an easy path for today's republican

party to bring this back is because they are not inventing this race for the first time. and, we are not in great to history. we know what it meant the last time, right? christian nationalism is not a new concept. it is not a new american right-wing political concept. the reason this ought to be awkward for them to try to bring it back is because the last time, as a country we tried that on, with guys like gerald l.k. smith leading the way, they were really not shy in saying exactly what they meant by it. so, i'm going to play a little more of jerrold l k smith, i apologize for the annoying music coming back. but also, specifically, for the content of what you're about to hear him say. >> subversive forces, exploiting sentimental networks, are reading into the constitution a code of conduct which threatens to mongol eyes are race, destroy our racial self respect and enslaved the white man. fight mongrel-ization and all

attempts being made to force the intermix of black and white races. preserve america as a christian nation, being conscious of the fact that there is a highly organized campaign to substitute jewish tradition for christian tradition. the most powerful jewish organization in america is the anti-defamation league, which has launched a campaign to remove from all public schools and nissan book which contains a christmas carol or any other him which mentions the name of jesus. >> they are coming for the kids. they are coming for the public schools. they've infiltrated the public schools with their anti-christian -- christian nationalism! gerald l k smith, the leader of the christian nationalists movement speaking in the 1950s. he was a leader of that movement in the country of the world war ii era, rather the time where he was running for president. he was also a leader of that movement in the post world war ii era. and, i have to tell, you what i just play do, that is kind of a

mild stuff from him. the stuff about the jews taking over the world, and how americans need to be christian nationalists because only that can stop the worldwide jewish conspiracy, not to mention all the race mixing. i mean, that sounded just play does the milder version of what gerald okay smith was famous for. he was a virulent, violent and racist antisemite. and that was the corpus movement. christian nationalists. which you would think would make christian nationalism kind of a hard thing for today's republicans to try and races their name better. >> you think that would be a hard thing. they, apparently do not have any qualms. particularly from the trumpiest members of congress. and particularly from the republican nominee for governor, in the swing state of pennsylvania. a man in doug mastriano. he's been kind of a case study for months now. and, republicans actually trying to prolong their best gerald l k smith mask to make the republican party, the christian nationalist party he

always wanted. and that he spent almost set decades trying to create. a paid consultant for the dog mastriano campaign. again, mastriano is the republican nominee for governor in pennsylvania. the republican party has chosen him as his candidate for governor. a paid consultant for mastriano's campaign is making headlines today, thanks to the watchdog group media matters. starting to document this guy's own pronouncements on the threat of the jews. and, on the christian nationalists movement as represented by candidates like his guy, republican doug mastriano. >> so, no, we don't want people who are atheists, we don't want people who are jewish. this is explicitly christian movement. because this is an explicitly christian country. now, we are not saying that, you know, we are going to deport all these people or whatever. you are free to stay here, right. you are not going to be forced

to convert or anything like this. but, you are going to enjoy the fruits of living in a christian society under christian loss. >> that is a consultant on the campaign for republican nominee for governor of pennsylvania, doug mastriano. clarifying, clarifying, that it's not the plan to forcibly deport the jews. just to be clear! that's not the plan, for now. but just are not wanted. jews are not part of the movement that this new republican and governor wants to represent. so, jews, atheist, people about their fate, they won't be forcibly converted or deported, now. that is not the plan for. now it is just that this is not for, them nor will this country be. doug mastriano is the republican candidate for pennsylvania governor, the democratic governor for pennsylvania governor is josh shapiro. he is currently the attorney general. just shapiro's gonna be our guest in a few minutes. we are gonna get his response

to that, and more. but, it's been a busy news day. actually, busy few days. since the last january six hearing, primetime on thursday night, set off a bunch of proverbial bombshells, particularly on the right and republican politics. today, one of the members of the january 6th investigation, elaine maria, posted online some additional footage from depositions and witness statements about president trump's statement to the country on january 7th. which was the day after the attack by trump supporters on the u.s. capitol. now, we've heard a little bit about this so far from the january 6th investigation. we know from testimony, previously revealed by the investigation that part of the reason trump agreed to even make a statement on january 7th, part of the reason he agreed to make a somewhat conciliatory statement about the attack that happened a day after is because he had been advised, that if he didn't do something like that, he might be thrown out of office, immediately.

the cabinet and the vice president really did seem ready to force him out of office using the 25th amendment of the constitution, by which they would declare him unfit and force him out. there has been testimony from the investigation, thus far, that trump agreed, reluctantly to give a speech on january 7th. basically, to fend off that possibility. he agreed to give a speech saying, sort of, anna milley mount the way that maybe the violent crime at the capitol was in a very good thing. i start about that a little bit in terms of characterizing his feelings about it. because, we sort of earned the right to talk about. it we have enough insight into his feelings about that january 7th speech. because, the investigation, among other things, released outtakes from his january 7th speech. showing him, messing up, having a hard time reading some words. being frustrated with the speech content. but, specifically showing him

complaining about the parts of the speech that had been written for him that he did not want to say and that he wanted to refuse to say. >> whenever you're ready, sir. >> i would like to begin by addressing the heinous attack yesterday, and to those who broke the law, you will pay. you do not represent our movement. you do not represent our country. and, if you broke the law -- i can't say that. i already said you would pay. the demonstrators who infiltrated the capital have defied the seat -- that's, defiled right. i can't see it very well. i'll do this, i'm going to do this, let's go. but this election is not over. congress has certified the results. i don't want to say the election is over. i just want to say congress has

certify the results without saying the election is over, okay? >> now congress is -- >> but i didn't say congress. don't go to the paragraph before. okay? >> i don't want to say the election is over. i don't want to say the election is over. those outtakes are some of what we got from the january six investigators last week. now, today, there is no hearing today. there is no hearing scheduled for a few weeks from the january six investigation. but, nevertheless, they released this. >> i am not sure when those conversations began because they could've started early at the next morning. but, i believe they started that evening, on the evening of the six. >> i was told we should get the statement on the seventh, and

obviously, move forward on transition. >> i sat with their. i spoke about trying to put around some draft remarks for the seventh that we were gonna present to the president to try to say. we thought that it was important for de-escalation. >> from what i understand at the time, and from what the reports were coming in, there is a large concern of 25th amendment potentially being invoked. and there were concerns about what would happen in the senate if it was the 25th were invoked. so, the primary reason that i had heard, other than, you know, we did not do enough on the six, we need to get a stronger message out, there condemn this, the vice severe legacy. the secondary reason to that is to think about what might happen to the final 15 days of your presidency if we don't do this. there is already talks about the 25th amendment. you need this covered. >> do you recognize what this is? >> it looks like a copy of a

draft of the remarks for that day. >> okay. and, as you can see throughout the document there are lines crossed out. there are some words added in. do you recognize the handwriting? >> it looks like my father's handwriting. >> it looks like my father's handwriting, says ivanka trump. and, luckily for us, he writes in gigantic capital letters and sharpie. so, it's very easy for all of us to read. and so, we can now see, easily what president trump insisted he would not say. what he changed in the speech that was written for him to be delivered on january 7th, the day after the u.s. capitol attack. the draft that he was given starts with, good afternoon. he cut that out. okay. then, it says i would like to begin today by addressing, and he cuts the word today, out of that. okay, all fine. the draft and says he should

say that he's outraged and sickened by the violence. he keeps the outrage, he drops and second. okay, he is just outraged. basically still afloat with the point of the speech. until this next paragraph, when we start to sink. the draft says, quote, i am directing the department of justice to ensure all lawbreakers are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. we must send a clear message, not with mercy but with justice. legal consequences must be swift and firm. he cuts all of that. he will not say he's directing the justice department to prosecute to the fullest extent of the law. because, of course, he didn't do that. and he sure doesn't want to say that he's doing that. and here's the next bit that he cuts. the draft written for, him for his speech on january 7th says, to those who engage in active violence and destruction, quote, i want to be very clear you do not represent me. you do not represent our movement. >> and, if you broke the law,

quote, you belong in jail. he cuts that. he won't say that the people who broke the law on january 6th attacking the capitol belong in jail. and, he won't even say that they don't represent him and they don't represent his movement. and, you could see that all crossed up with this big sharpie. and you could see, in his pick all kept shopping handwriting, where he swapped in his own language there. he did say, instead of you belong in jail, you will pay. you will pay. you will pay. by which, presumably he meant you will pay for tickets. and to my next round of for-profit trump rallies, where i would praise you. >> january six has become the democratic parties excuse to justify an unprecedented assault on american civil rights appalling, persecution of political prisoners. another thing we will do, and so many people have been asking me about it, if i run and if i'm win, we will treat those

people from january six fairly. we will treat them fairly. and, if it requires pardon, we will give them pardons. because, they are being treated so unfairly. >> so, right after the attack on the u.s. capitol by his supporters, there's this draft speech written for him to give the next day. and, he only gives it to try to avert himself of being forcibly removed from office by the cabinet invoking the 25th amendment. and the death of that speech says, you don't represent, you don't represent our moment, you become in jail. he cuts all that, and instead just, as you will pay. and, by the time is talking about it at his rally, not only has no one supposed to be paying anymore, but now, they are unfairly persecuted patriots, who are all getting pardons. if he gets to be president again. we this is what happens when there are no consequences for trump to orchestrate this type of attack on the country. we the january six

investigation is not expected to do more public facing hearings for a few weeks now. that said, nobody expected them to be releasing new material to the public, like they did today. so, perhaps that is an indication that we may not have to wait for more hearings several weeks from now for them to be continuing to tell the public more of what they know. meanwhile, the other elements of this investigation, and potential roads to accountability proceed in some interesting ways. today, abc news is first to report that a very senior person at the trump white house, the vice president chief of staff, a man named mark short, has newly given testimony. not to the january six investigation in congress, we already knew that he had talked to them. we have seen clips of marc short's testimony in earlier public airings, but the abc news scoop today is that marc short just gave sworn testimony to a federal grand jury. which means that marc short is the first trump white house official that we know who has been subpoenaed and has given

testimony to a federal grand jury, a federal grand jury working with the u.s. federal prosecutors from the justice department on potential indictments related to january six. now, we don't know exactly what that means. we don't know what's vice president mike pence's chief of staff testified to the grand jury about, we don't even know which of what i have been reportedly several grandeur is working on this, he might have testified to. but, it is a rare sign of life, a rare of proof of life moment from the u.s. department of justice in terms of whether they're doing anything. whether anybody other than just the rider themselves might ever face any sort of criminal charges related to this effort to over turn the government by force to keep trump in power. relatedly, in georgia, today there was a setback for the georgia state prosecutor who is using a special grand jury there to investigate the attempts to overthrow the presidential election results in that state. it's a setback for this prosecutor. but, a very, very specific one. and i feel like a lot of the

coverage of news was sort of overridden in terms of its implication for this investigation. the district attorney in fulton county georgia, has been told today by the judge overseeing the grand jury in that case that she is free to proceed with investigations and potential prosecutions of all of the fake trump electors from the state of georgia, all of whom have received target letters from funny will, is telling them that they might be indicted in the scandal. the judge has thus far, cleared her to proceed with those investigation and potential prosecutions. except for one of the fake electors. one of the fifth collectors is a republican candidate for lieutenant governor in georgia right now. and, this district attorney, helped her fund-raise for one of the democratic races who's running in the democratic primary, to be one of its opponents in the general election. because of, that the judge said, in georgia, that some other prosecutors, some other da's can pursue that investigation of that one guy. and, can pursue that possible

prosecution of that one guy. but, not fulton county district attorney fani willis because it is not in the best interest for her. again, just for that one potential defendant. so, again, that is a setback for fani willis is -- in georgia. but it is a really specific one that only applies to that one subject of her investigation. and, it really doesn't appear to impact the rest of her case. but, you know, bigger picture here. just as it seems like the investigations and potential prosecutions for what happened on january 6th are stretching on, and on, and on. i think a considerable section of the we -- are trying to see if people at the top are going to pay a price for what they did. or if it's just gonna be the low level people who physically want into the capitol that day. justice that is stretching on and on and on, on the other side of it, the effort to overthrow the last presidential election and re-install trump

in power, that effort not only isn't in the distant past at this point, it is literally ongoing. the week before last, the leader of the wisconsin state assembly told reporters, excuse, me that trump called him and told him, two weeks ago, that he needed to decertify the results of wisconsin's presidential election from 2020, now. which seemed insane that trump was still making calls like that as recently as two weeks ago. but, then, over the weekend, look at this. we learned that in once conson, the republican who is the leader of the elections committee, in that state assembly, she agrees with trump. she wants to do. it she thinks they should decertify. and so, not wisconsin republicans are trying to figure out, i guess, if they could call some sort of special legislative session to try and undo the 2020 election results two years down the road. they want to do that, now. because trump is still pressuring them to do it. and, so some of them, at least,

want to. it is not over for them a lot of impatience in the rest of the country as to whether or not people who tried to orchestrate this coup are ever going to pay for it. the cool orchestration efforts, meanwhile, persist. we i mentioned at the top of the show that we're going to have josh appear here in just a moment. he's the attorney general in pennsylvania. he's the democratic nominee for governor in pennsylvania. now, running against a republican, chri nationalists, all rod gerald, and don't ask what that means for jewish people in pennsylvania. i should tell, you doug must show, know that republican candidate, the christian nationalists guy, he, himself, was at the u.s. capital on january six. he himself has been subpoenaed by the january six investigation. but, at home in pennsylvania right now, i, mean the fight continues. there are three republican-led counties in pennsylvania that, right, now are still refusing to certify the election results from the pennsylvania primaries that have been there more than

a month ago. they are saying they're not going to count some of the votes that they disapprove of. they are just not sending in certified vote totals for those votes that they want disallowed. now, that's happening right now. that's ongoing. and, we study the pass. we study the recent past. in part, because we have a justice interest and accountability for past wrongs. so, the people who do bad stuff don't get away with it and keep doing it and perceive their impunity as a green light to do worse. that's why we don't let ourselves get distracted just by the latest shiny object. we stay focused on that stuff. big bad stuff that requires accountability. we also study the more distant pass, right? to learn from what previous generations have confronted before us. we christian nationalism is not a new idea on the american wing. we know exactly where it went, very quickly. the last time they brought it up, it seems like it's going

there that time, and it seems like it's going to time -- this time to. >> and the story, in the sage, in this particular story about accountability for the forceful attempt to overthrow the u.s. government, i cannot just feels like the past won't leave us alone. it will leave us alone. the distance passed won't leave us alone. the more recent past, this thing that we keep trying to move past, as a country, it won't stop. we've got more to come, we'll be right back. stay with us. t more to come, we'l t more to come, we'l be no way! [phone ringing] hm. no way! no way! priceline. every trip is a big deal. stay with us ♪ ♪ right back. 80% of couples sleep too hot or too cold. aleve it, and see what's possible.

because quality sleep is vital, the sleep number 360 smart bed is temperature balancing, so you both stay cool. our smart sleepers get 28 minutes more restful sleep per night. save 40% on the sleep number 360 special edition smart bed queen now only $1,499. ♪♪ is this where your grandparents cut a rug, with a jitterbug? or returned from war, dreaming of the possibilities ahead. ♪♪ where your dad waited for his dad to come home from the factory.

is this where they gathered on their front steps, with fats domino on the breeze... ancestry can guide you to family discoveries in the 1950 census. see what you can uncover at ancestry. ♪♪ add downy to your wash for all the freshness and softness of home. even when you're not at home. feel the difference with downy.

in order for small businesses to thrive, they need to be smart. efficient. agile. and that's never been more important than it is right now. so for a limited time, comcast business is introducing small business savings. call now to get powerful internet for just 39 dollars a month. with no contract. and a money back guarantee. all on the largest, fastest reliable network. from the company that powers more businesses than anyone else. call and start saving today. >> it's october 27th, 2018. comcast business. powering possibilities.

at the tree of life synagogue shooting in pittsburgh, pennsylvania. 11 people murdered by a gunman who stormed into their synagogue during services. well that day, on that saturday morning, 2018, right before he walked into the synagogue and shot and killed those 11 people, the very last thing that shooter did with write a post on a specific social media site,

a site called gab. what she posted was a scurried against jewish people, just the latest in months and months and months of antisemitic grants, he had been posting to gab. his bio on gab said quote, jews are the children of satan. that's the sort of account and i'm description that might have raised red flags are normal website. but it's sort of the course that gab, gab mark itself as a destination for people been kicked off of other social media sites, white nationalists, qanon folks, antisemites, holocaust deniers, all the best people. in the aftermath of the tree of life massacre, as everybody's attention turned to this online sauce poll, cesspool, gab founder black that it was getting the highest traffic ever after the shooting. turns out the massacre was great for gab. that guy, the founder of gab is a real peach. after ten african american people were killed in a buffalo supermarket, earlier this year, he endorsed the shooters online

grievances about black people and choose, supposedly replacing white americans. the founder of gab said the solution was for white people to have more white babies. the gab.com guy uses his sight, uses on account on the side to promote it the most violent antisemitic attacks and conspiracy theories, that you know, jews are engaged in why genocide, and that a cabal of juice secretly controls the government, and the media, and there are legitimately differing opinions about whether the holocaust happened or not. because of that, a whole lot of people in the state of pennsylvania, a few days ago, they learned that same guy, that guy is being paid by the republican nominee for governor of pennsylvania, doug mastriano paid $5,000 to gab four campaign consulting fees. what kind of campaign consulting is this guy doing for pennsylvania's republican nominee for governor? i'm gonna guess it's not minority outreach, between owes?

the gab guy says it was four doug mastriano for governor adds on gab. but we know that doug mastriano also got a few other things. he got an endorsement from gab founder julian publican primary. i'm sure that helped him win over the coveted virulent antisemite demographic. gab also interviewed mastriano during much praise was exchanged. doug mastriano told the gab guy, quote, thank god for what you've done. doug mastriano also got himself thousands of followers on gab, because according to reporting by the huffington post, gab said every single new user at gab.com automatically follows doug mastriano. well, given the clientele of gab.com, that means that when doug mastriano posts about his campaign for governor on the site, he gets done sentence of comments, that are explicitly antisemitic attacks on his democratic opponent for governor, pennsylvania's

attorney general, josh shapiro, who happens to be jewish. now, doug mastriano has not offered any comment on any of this. we have reached out to him for comment. we have not heard anything, but we live in hope. thanks to the lab or watch grub group, media matters, we know that the gab guy, the doug mastriano campaign consultant, he is happy to talk about all of this. >> this is our guy. this is pennsylvania sky, and he is going to turn this state around for the glory of god. this isn't a big thank. this is a christian movement, full stop. so, no, we don't want people who are atheists. we don't want people who are jewish. >> campaign consultant to the republican nominee for governor of the great state of pennsylvania. in 22, in 2022, this year, in our lifetimes. joining us now is the democratic nominee for governor of pennsylvania, attorney general josh shapiro.

mister attorney general, thank you for making time tonight. i'm sort of sorry to be speaking to you under the circumstances, but i appreciate your willingness to do it. >> thank you, rachel. appreciate being on here. >> let me just ask a response to this series of revelations about here republican opponent. he has formed not just the sort of political alliance, but what appears to be a financial relationship, and an ongoing politically strategic relationship with gab.com. and including, through today, when the guy has continued to assert that there is no role for jews in political culture of america. >> i mean, rachel, this is who doug mastriano is. he is so dangerous. he is so extreme. he is so beyond the pale, that he would go and ask for followers, pay for followers, pay for supporters of his campaign, recruit volunteers, on a site that was used by the tree of life killer, the

deadliest attack on the jewish people in the united states history, which occurred in pittsburgh, pennsylvania, just a couple of years ago. this site is gab site is a haven for white supremacy. and yet, this is where doug mastriano believes he needs to go for support, for recruit to his campaign. rachel, we cannot allow this to become normal, just normal political practice. this is not normal. it's not normal that mastriano was on that site, and it's not normal that he trades in his direct blatant antisemitism and racism, that fills the pages of gab. this is not normal, and i think it's indicative of the approach he would take to being governor here in pennsylvania. the kind of chaos and the division he would bring, if ever given the chance to lead this commonwealth. >> what i was talking about

these developments, and then use, and the previous segment, and in this introduction here, i kept finding myself stumbling over the word nominee. because a lot of people can run for things, you know, a lot of people are candidates or anything. and you get all sorts of wheat and chef in large candidate fields. but this is the republican nominee for governor. this is where the republican party has chosen to run against you to become governor of the state. is it possible that the republican party didn't know what they were getting into with him? is this a form of radicalism and extremism for mr. mastriano, that was not evident before they chose him to be their nominee? >> now, folks know exactly who he was, when they kicked him. he received over 40% in a field of nine or ten candidates. this is the modern day base of the republican party. now, the good news is, many republicans are breaking from him. we had, just the other day, nine republican leaders in the state, join our campaign.

there will be many more to come, folks certainly don't agree with me on every issue, but they know that what they mastriano is doing is a threat to our democracy. it's beyond the pale. it's not normal and it should not be acceptable in our politics today. democrats, republicans, independents, here in pennsylvania, all stepping up and saying, that is simply too far. we don't want to kind of chaos he would bring to our politics here in pennsylvania. so, on the one hand, i think it's deeply troublesome that the base of the republican party chose him overwhelmingly to be their nominee. on the other hand, what's been clear since he received a nomination, it's that just the sheer number of republicans and independents have said, that's too much. we are not willing to go that far. we're not willing to accept that. we see the flashing red light out there that doug mastriano is, and we refused to look away. we refused to ignore it. we are gonna stand up to it. that is what's encouraging about where we are in our politics today. >> pennsylvania attorney

general, the democratic nominee for governor of pennsylvania, josh shapiro. mr. shapiro, mister attorney general, i appreciate it. again, it's painful for me to talk about this stuff, knowing what it means in your state, in terms of the danger that the stuff stars up. also knowing the personal attack that's behind it, but thank you for being here to talk about it. thank you, sir. appreciate it. >> thank you, rachel. >> much more ahead. stay with us. nk you, rachel nk you, rachel >>downy unstopables in-wash scent boosters keep your laundry smelling fresh waaaay longer than detergent alone. pour a cap of downy unstopables into your washing machine before each load. and enjoy fresher smelling laundry. if you want laundry to smell fresh for weeks make sure you have downy unstopables in-wash scent boosters. shop for downy unstopables online, including our lighter scent. stay with us

♪ ♪ ♪♪ voltaren. the joy of movement. ♪♪

seen this ad? voltaren. tit's not paid fort. by california tribes. it's paid for by the out of state gambling corporations that wrote prop 27. it doesn't tell you 90% of the profits go to the out of state corporations. a tiny share goes to the homeless, and even less to tribes. and a big loophole says, costs to promote betting reduce money for the tribes, so they get less. hidden agendas. fine print. loopholes. prop 27. they didn't write it for the tribes or the homeless. >> when russia started its war they wrote it for themselves.

in ukraine, the first big city they managed to control was the southern city, a southern port city called, kherson. despite fierce ukrainian resistance in the north and around the ukrainian capital of kyiv, russian troops were able to capture kherson in the south, just a week into the war. well, now, it's five months into the war, and aided by some new high powered american weaponry, they kenyan president, volodymyr zelenskyy, is promising a counter offensive to retake kherson, took russian troops out of that whole region. president zelenskyy said this weekend that ukrainian troops are advancing step-by-step. they liberated 44 towns in the kherson region so far. they are doing so in part, thanks to a new weapon they have just started using. a weapon called, himars, support for high mobility artillery rocket systems. himars our long range, precision guided artillery launchers, made in the united states, who provided them to

the ukraine military by the united states government. and basically, the way they work is pretty understandable, even for those of us in a civilian context. this is a longer that's mounted on a standard u.s. military truck. it takes just a four man crew to operate. but this thing can fire munitions with a range of about 50 miles, the way they've been equipped and shipped to ukraine. about a 50-mile range. but then, importantly, as soon as it has fired its shot, the truck can take off. so, the water won't be vulnerable to retain fire. within two minutes of a high mars firing it shot, this truck mounted launcher can be speeding away from the firing location at 60 miles per hour. so, they can fire at long range, in a very precise guided way, and then, they can get away without having the weapon taken off the battlefield by return fire from the enemy. now, the washington post reported this weekend, quote the himars has been so effective that the russian

defense ministry has ordered commanders to prioritize them for targeting. the u.s. has sent a dozen of these himars to ukraine. the administration just settled overspending for more for a total of 16. it's possible that the germans and the british are maybe sending a handful more. but ukraine says, these weapons are game changing for them. and they need a lot more. the ukrainian minister of defense just said, quote, for an effective counteroffensive, we need at least 100. he said, quote, that would be a game-changer. it's clear that u.s. provided weapons on the ground in ukraine, or already -- it's clear that she has provided weapons already on the ground in ukraine, or doing the work they were intended to do. ukraine was able to take out russian ship on the black sea. they were eventually able to recapture snake island, with a u.s.-made harpoon missile, using these himars systems, ukraine was able to destroy an important russian command center for aerial operations that they say has drastically resulted, drastically reduced

russian oil artillery fire from over the horizon. a congressional declaration that visited ukraine this weekend also got to see how those weapons are being used. among them was democratic congresswoman elissa slotkin. she has a special connection with ukraine, as her -- michigan has a large ukrainian american population. but her state is also one of the places where soldiers are trained on how to use the himars system. she may have pointed to that during her visit by, giving zelenskyy a challenge going from a himars unit in michigan national guard. congresswoman elissa slotkin it's just back from kyiv. she joins us next. stay with us. man elissa slotkin it's just back from kyiv she joins us next.

stay with us

- as someone with hearing loss, i know what a confusing and frustrating experience getting hearing aids can be. that's why i founded lively. high-quality hearing aids with all of the features you need, and none of the hassle. lively offers bluetooth, fda regulated hearing aids delivered to your door for thousands less than you'd expect and remote access to an audiology team seven days a week. better hearing has never been this easy. try lively risk free for 100 days. visit listenlively.com.

♪ >> before becoming a member of congress, she did three tours in iraq, as a militia expert for the cia. she has also held a bunch of senior defense intelligence positions, including a senior post at the pentagon. but now, she's a congresswoman, and a member of the armed services and homeland security committees. congresswoman elissa slotkin of michigan is just back from ukraine. in ukraine, she met with ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy at his senior aides. topic one of their where american advanced rocket systems that the ukrainian say could change the game enough to enable them to win the war against russia. these are rockets systems that have a direct connection to representative this slotkin's home state of michigan. representative elissa slotkin thank you so much for joining us. i really appreciate you making the time. >> thanks for having me. >> so, you've got an impressive defense and intelligence background. and i'm sure the stuff is easy

for you to follow, easy for you to brock, in terms of all the jargon and everything. but can you explain to our audience, why it is that the ukrainian government, president zelenskyy, are so interested in this one u.s. weapons system, that they have just started to obtain? and that does have a connection to your home state of michigan. >> yeah, i mean, i think it's basically gives them the ability for precision fires, in a way that they just didn't have before. you know, you talked about the range, 50 miles. i think what's been interesting is that the russians have backed up that range, right? those 50 miles, it's pushed them back in a way that i think has been different. and it just brings the menu capability that's long-range, more precise, and then, those himars can move, as you said, it's scoot and shoot, or scoot and shoot. and they can just get out of where they were, and they are very accurate, and so, it's just bringing a new capability to them. they haven't had that before, and they're using it to good effect. >> do you but leave that the

u.s. is capable of shipping them a lot more? i don't know much about these weapons in terms of the procurement process, from what i've able to read, sort of open source stuff, it seems like they're $5 million a pop. there's open source estimates that maybe the u.s. has a few hundred of them in our arsenal. but they've been around for decades. they've been around since the 90s. it's not like their brand-new, highly precision,'s weapon systems that we've only got a handful of. do you think we are capable of giving them as anymore as they want? >> no, not as many more as they want. and when you're talking about hundreds upon hundreds, the planners at the pentagon have to make sure that we don't cut into bone for u.s. defenses, right? that we don't leave ourselves vulnerable. we are giving the green is a lot of different things, including himars, and so, the pentagon has to make decisions all the time on what we can get them from our engine tory, to other partner nations have similar systems that they can give them. i did this with a counter isis campaign. it's often figuring out what

kind of risk you can take. i think there's a question on the table about whether we give them a longer range rocket that goes on the same himars. it's called and atacms. it will be a longer range, 190 miles, instead of 50. that's something that the ukrainians asked us for, president zelenskyy asked us for. it's something that i know the administration is having conversations about. i have certainly support that. but you know, it's not any one system that's going to make a counter offensive work, particularly in a place like, you know, southern ukraine. it's gotta be a whole lot of things that come together, and it's a complicated thing, to go and take back territory, when the russians have, you know, really try to get themselves in downtown. >> congresswoman elissa slotkin, who just returned from ukraine, including meeting with president zelenskyy, thanks for helping us understand this. i feel like americans to really care about this war. being able to understand the decisions that the american government can make about what we can do, and what we can't, it's a really important part of staying engaged with the reality here. thanks for helping us

understand. >> thanks. >> all right, we'll be right back. stay with us. understand >> thanks. >> thanks. >> back save 40% on the sleep number 360 special edition smart bed queen now only $1,499. stay with us

♪ ♪ away suitcases come in many colors. so you can find your color. colors. choices. happiness. away. ♪ ♪ this is the gillettelabs with exfoliating bar. the bar in the handle removes unseen dirt and debris ahead of the blades, for effortless shaving in one efficient stroke.

new poligrip power hold and seal. clinically proven to give strongest hold, plus seals out 5x more food particles. fear no food. new poligrip power hold and seal. ♪ (queen - we will rock you) ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ the new gmc sierra. premium and capable. that's professional grade. ♪ ♪ premium and capable. aleve x. its revolutionary rollerball design delivers fast, powerful, long-lasting pain relief. aleve it, and see what's possible.

as a business owner, your bottom line is always top of mind. so start saving by switching to the mobile service designed for small business: comcast business mobile. flexible data plans mean you can get unlimited data or pay by the gig. all on the most reliable 5g network with no line activation fees or term contracts... saving you up to $500 a year. and it's only available to comcast business internet customers. so boost your bottom line by switching today. >> that's gonna do it for us comcast business. powering possibilities.

tonight. thanks for being here with us. now it's time for the last word wear ayman mohyeldin is in for lawrence tonight. good evening, ayman. nice to see you. >> it's nice to see you, rachel. i was just gonna say really quickly, i have had some experience overseas, uncovering religious extremism in politics. i always noticed that people overseas admire america for being able to keep religion out of politics. this was a hallmark of american democracy and politics that our institutions were insulated from that. but as you pointed out today, it seems more and more, as politicians own that they are christian nationalists, and the supreme court making the decisions that it has been making, grounded in a religious interpretation. we are going down a slippery slope. >> yeah, and it is -- thank you for saying that. i think, sometimes it's easier to see that, from the outside looking in, and