good to be with you. i'm chris jansing in for katy tur. as we come on the air, the federal reserve has just spoken. i am told they are raising interest rates three-quarters of a point as the fed hopes to cool off the economy, slow down growth and in turn control inflation. that change can't come fast enough. inflation is at yet another record high, 9.1%, but this key question remains. will it help americans who are clearly hurting? the average cost of groceries has skyrocketed. a dozen eggs, $1.07 more expensive than last year. milk is now $4.15 a gallon, a nearly 60% increase from this time last year and ground beef

$5 a pound compared to just $4.56 compared to 2021. gas is now 70 cents cheaper per gallon compared to a record high last month, but for a lot of folks, that is small consolation in the larger picture. we have a lot to talk about and a great panel to talk about it. host of the 11th hour on msnbc and senior business analyst stephanie ruhle, robert herzog and host of the pod cast "so money." stephanie, three quarters of a point? how immediate could the impact be? what are we going to see? >> it's the impact on what? on mortgage rates, credit cards -- >> let's start there. >> listen, if you are borrowing, if you're looking to borrow money, it is going to cost you more. so it's really difficult because when they raise interest rates, it's going to cause short-term

pain, it makes it more expensive to borrow with the hope that in the long term they're going to cool the economy and get prices to lower. but, chris, it's a complicated situation because when people keep trying to say it's a good economy or a bad economy, you can't. it's a complicated one. because we have very low unemployment. we have strong job growth and so people who can afford it, household savings is up and we continue to be out there spending. so when there is high demand, businesses are less inclined to lower prices. with this additional rate hike, are you going to see things start to cool? the feds certainly hope so. >> well, that's the question, right? robin, what are the chances. these are some of the most aggressive rate hikes we have seen in decades. people are already hurting from high inflation. now they're going to have to pay more to borrow money. is it too much too soon? >> and yet the fed's main trait is at what?

2 1/4%, 2 1/2%? we're nowhere near paul volker levels. my dad used to take me to a savings in north miami beach and they'd offer you a toaster, a blender and a fat 16, 17% certificate of deposit and that would convince you to defray your money away from movies and airline tickets and smash burgers and everything else. i'm not inclined to do that today. there's more competitive places to invest and save your money and invest capitol. >> well, let's talk about the real world. what does it mean for a new home buyer? if you have been looking for a house and the average mortgage right right now is 5.7% and you've been pred kating it on the hope, are you going to find 6% when you close in. >> you're complaining about a hot housing market and nobody

can afford homes. it's paradoxical. >> we're are seeing housing prices cool in some markets. in coastal cities and coastal parts of the country in 2021, you saw bidding wars that were historic, prices went up, 20% based on what they were asking for and what they got. if you see prices cool by 5 or 10%, would that surprise you? i don't think so. we're seeing signs of that. as interest rates climb and borrowing costs increase, we'll see perspective buyers that were very interested in buying the last year, go to the sidelines and wait. we just did a big story on this on cnn. the calculus for homeownership is changing by the day. it depends on the market that you're in and how willing are you to be flexibility. the same house you had your eye

on in january with that same budget, that's not possible. you have to either lower your expectations on how much you can afford or be willing to pay more or just wait. in some ways you have to really contemplate the different options. prices will be cooling because of the interest rate pressures. >> that's on the individual side -- so, stephanie, i was going to ask you on the business side, see how small businesses, it could cost them more to borrow and that could then have an impact on them. they're already dealing with increased costs in both goods and in some cases labor, fighting for labor. what about the impact on small business, which we know is such a driver of this economy. >> for small businesses out there, this is super difficult. they're struggling to find talent. they have to pay out. they have small margins. when we got walmart earnings this week, the reason that rocked the markets is because when you have the biggest retailer out there saying people

aren't spending, we're not getting the numbers, you're going to have the trickle down effect. if the big guy is hurting the small guy is going to be in excruciating paint. on one hand people are happy to say the housing market is going to cool off a little bit so maybe i can afford to buy a house. but if you're a homeowner and a year ago you thought your house was worth a million dollars and now you can only sell it for 700,000, you don't feel good about that. so a cool economy might help us in what we can afford but it not good when you think about how people feel. people don't feel good when suddenly their house is worth less. >> i guess i was looking at when you spoke with brian dee, the director of the national economic council and he called and we've heard this over and over again that we're in this unique economy. it's so unique and unlike anything we've seen in history, why are we using the same old

tool box to combat inflation? >> listen, it's an awesome question. the problem for the fed is we don't have a lot of different levers. i would say whether it this administration or any administration, everybody loves to complain about the measures that we use when the numbers don't work for them. when they like the numbers, when the numbers are attractive to them they're like i'm happy to use this system. using just gdp is what brian is talking about is potentially antiquated. the definition of recession is to say if you got negative gtp -- gdp for two consecutive quarters. we're going to face that. remember, this is not just a normal economic cycle. all of the pain that we're experiencing has to do with covid and the war. two things that no one would predict and clearly couldn't have been avoided and neither are the faults of the consumer

or the business community. >> if the reality is that things may get worse before they get better, tell me if you think that's so, what are folks supposed to do? what's the advice? >> it really depends on the kind of consumer you're blessed, if you have surplus cash you can put into ibonds, the market might be attractive because stocks are down 20 to 25%. >> but that's not most people. >> so it's brutal. i don't know what to say. the problem is inflation is on the way up. it disproportionately helps people with real estate, stocks, crypto. not that it's a one-to-one cause and effect thing but everybody is paying the price for this pernicious inflation. we paid so much to rescue it

that there's no choice. how do you clean it up right now? how do you mop it up as we approach something like normalcy? that is a huge question. are there three more 3/4 rate hikes? is there a rate cut in the offing for next year? everyone at least on the street confused. >> for a lot of people, the question is what can i do? i mean, you know, maybe you can cancel one of your streaming services. stephanie's rolling her eyes. but it's a legit question, right? how do i protect myself for whatever period this is? you have goldman sachs saying 50/50 chance we're going to go into a recession. what do we do to prepare for it if it happens? >> you try to not lean into the hysteria and the headlines that are very extreme. the reality is that recessions happen. how deep and severe this one is going to be nobody knows. anyone who pretends to know,

they're probably trying to sell you something. you got to control what you can control. we know historically in recessions job loss increases and while you may think your career is secure, your income is secure right now, what if it isn't? what if the other member in your household that's bringing in that second income has a furlough or a job loss? you have to prepare for a scenario where you may lose income. so starting to really look at your budget, how can i be smarter about what's coming in and what's going out. and maybe it is that you give up some streaming services, but i would also look at some of the bigger expenses that you're carrying, things like the debt that you're carrying. can you refinance that debt to a lower fixed rate? can you negotiate even for more pay? we are, by the way, in a relatively healthy job market. if you are working somewhere where you are producing overtime and your company is healthy, asking for a raise now, better do it now than in 18 months or in 12 months.

>> okay. i really would love to continue this conversation, i'm going to watch stephanie tonight on "the 11th hour" because i know she'll have a lot more to say about it. that is here on msnbc, 11:00 p.m. eastern time. >> and coming up, january 6th and what we know about the former president. and gun manufacturers, what they say about their role in the deadly epidemic of gun violence. and each year hundreds of thousands of people go missing across the u.s. can emerging science help first responders find them faster? hes and so i said "yeah, i'll try it out." i noticed that i felt sharper, i felt like i was able to respond to things quicker. responders find them faster?

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today federal prosecutors are asking questions and digging deeper into former president trump's actions on january 6th, demonstrating he's a far bigger focus of their criminal investigation than we had previously known. according to "the washington post," interviews by prosecutors during grand jury proceedings show them repeatedly probing for answers into what trump said and did in the weeks leading up to january 6th. his pressure campaign against mike pence and his role in pushing slates of fake electors in states he's lost. that's according to four people who are familiar with the matter. while we know that the justice department had been looking at a lot of people around trump, the degree of prosecutors' interest in himself is new.

d.o.j. is not officially commenting. i want to bring in justice correspondent pete william, lisa rubins. pete, what are we learning? >> the investigator is interested in what mr. trump told others and said about, a, the efforts to get the slates of electors from states that president biden won, get those slates sent to the archives, get them on to the floor of the house when the vote were counted and then, b, try to persuade vice president mike pence either to honor those alternate slates or not count any votes from the disputed states. either way of course that would have given mr. trump the electoral college victory. at least that was the plan. so they want to know what the president was saying and doing

about those things. so that's the first thing that we learned. and the second thing we learned is the administration officials have also confirmed that the justice department obtained telephone records of some senior white house officials, including the chief of staff, mark meadows, and did that back in april. and that's a sign many people in the justice department are saying that the government is actually doing a lot more a lot more quickly than people had given him credit for. of course this is understandable. we really don't know a lot about what the justice department is doing here. we get these little glimpses when someone testifies before a grand jury and then somebody else talks about it and we get these little glimpses when we find out things like telephone record were obtained. the government is clearly doing a lot more than we knew and i think there's some feeling at the justice department that there's a lot of criticism that they aren't doing anything when in fact they are.

>> so we are getting through a lot of reporting that they're doing more than we had expected. but why the distinction that they're looking at trump's actions but they're not saying there's a criminal investigation. >> that's something they continued to dispute last night. it meaningful language of course. in looking at his actions as opposed to looking at his criminality, that's a deliberate choice by the department of justice to say they're interested in what trump said and instructed other people to do. we're talking about his senior aides and maybe some folks one layer beyond that, some of the motley crew of lawyers that were neither white house officials nor actual employees of the trump campaign but attached themselves to the campaign in respect of the fake electors scheme and other things they were trying to do to overturn the election. i think it a deliberate word choice and that the justice department won't confirm that they're actually investigating

former president trump for his criminality, but they are looking at what he said to others whose conduct may be under closer scrutiny than we previously understood. >> carol legg who helped break the story to the "washington post" was on our "morning joe" and she talked about the as soon as she's getting from the justice department regarding the bar that needs to be reached for them to bring charges against trump. here's what he said. >> i think the issue is deafening, overwhelming evidence that is so striking and so compelling that it can't be ignored and that a charge is more than a slam dunk but a necessity. >> wow. what's your take on that? do you agree with that, matt? >> yeah, i do think that's fair. one of the things the attorney made clear in his interview with lester holt yesterday is that one of the things they're not going to consider is his status as a former president in the sense that you heard this idea that you don't want to prosecute former presidents, it could turn us into a banana republic.

the attorney general made very clear they'll look at donald trump like they do any other defendant, that he is not above the law and no one is above the law. at the same time, i do think they're going to want to make sure if they are to bring charges against a former president that they are charges they can sustain, not just charges they can win a conviction before a jury with, but charges they can sustain all the way through appeal up to the supreme court. i do think a lot of the times people tend to oversimplify the complexity of this kind of case. up know, this isn't like an obstruction of justice charge or witness intimidation or bank fraud, charges that have been brought many times over the course of history in which there's apple case law. nobody has ever been charged or prosecuted with a coupe in this country before. the department has to work very deliberately and carefully to think if they could bring a charge that would withstand

scrutiny and appeal. >> and whether it would do that, lester asked the right question, which was whether or not the attorney general is worried that charging trump would tear the country apart. that's sort of a different part of an equation and that's where he suggested that that's not what they're looking at, that -- they're looking at can they make their case. can they ignore that? >> you can't make determinations like that at the justice department. you have to look at the law and whether someone violated the law. if you were to tackle this question and think about the larger implications of bringing the case, you have to ask the questions what are the implications for finding that we believe the president violated the law and because it's going to be controversial and be attacked by people on one side of the aisle, we don't bring those charges. we're saying if an indictment is

controversial, we're going to look the other way and that does put a former president above the law. that's not a tenable situation for the country. i don't think that's something the justice department can stand for either. they just have to get back to first principles. and if donald trump like any or american violated the law, he deserves to stand trial for that. >> pete williams, do we have any sense now how much closer or if we're close at all to some decisions being made about all these prosecutions, there was a sentencing just yesterday, but when we talk about the highest levels of government, do we know if they're close? >> no. >> one way or another, yes, we're going to prosecute, no, we're not. >> i think it safe to say they have no clue about the answer to that question. i think the best way to think about this is they want to know what happened. they're gathering facts right now. and that's a long way away from making charging decisions. i think they're still in the mode of let's get the most -- the fullest picture that we can and as the attorney general said

yesterday, you know, in some areas, admittedly the january 6 committee is out ahead of the justice department, but at the same time he said there are areas that the justice department is ahead of the committee. and he said that's only natural when you have two parallel investigations. they're not going to move in lock step to have their own organic structure and they're going to follow those wherever they may lead. but i don't get the impress we're any where close to charging decisions. >> pete williams, matthew rubin, thank you very much. >> and president trump returns with a dystopian speech and more election lies. and we'll go live to capitol hill. gun manufacturers were just pressed really hard about their role in this surge of mass shootings. >> will you accept personal responsibility for your companies' role in this tragedy

and apologize to the families of uvalde? >> chairwoman maloney, these acts are committed by murderers. the murderers are responsible. y. the murderers are responsible.

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an absolute flurry of development in the gun safety debate on capitol hill this afternoon. members of the oversight committee in the house grilling two gun company ceos, that coming after a new report was released on how the industry made more than a billion dollars by marketing military grade weapons to young men over the last decade. now, at the same time, speaker of the house nancy pelosi and democratic leadership have been strategizing about how to bring a package of police funding and gun control bills to the floor this week. there have been more than 370 mass shootings this year. that's according to the gun violence archives. and former president donald trump placed the blame for the rise in crime on democrats. >> under the democrat rule in democrat-run cities, democrat-run states and a democrat-run federal government, the criminals have been given

free reign more than ever before. there's never been a time like this. our streets are riddled with needles and soaked with the blood of innocent victims. many of our great cities where the middle class flocked to live the american dream are now literal war zones. >> with me is gabe gutierrez and punch bowl news co-founder jake sherman. you've been following this story with the gun manufacturers. what are lawmakers doing and what are they hoping to get out of this? >> the hearing so far has been pretty contentious. democrats really grilling the ceos. several were invited and only two of them appeared virtually. can you see up on the screen some. investigation that the oversight committee put out in terms of how much these companies have

profited over the last several years. from 2019, the revenue from a.r. style rifles tripped from $40 million in 2019 to more than $120 million in 2021. ruger's gross earnings also nearly tripled during that same period and smith & wesson's revenue from all long guns, which include ar-15-style rifles more than doubled between 2019 and 2021. and we can listen to one of those contentious exchanges between the chairwoman and one of the ceos from the gun companies. take a listen. >> will you accept personal responsibility for your company's role in this tragedy and apologize to the families of uvalde? >> chairwoman maloney, these acts are committed by murderers. the murderers are responsible --

>> reclaiming my time. mr. malone, will you apologize? >> congresswoman, with all due respect, while i grieve like all americans at these tragic incidences, again, to blame the particular firearm in use here that we're talking about -- >> thank you -- thank you. >> the firearm is an inanimate object. >> it's that's we're hearing over and over again at this hearing and from the republicans on the committee saying not to blame the guns but actually the criminals. but this is something that the families of some of those victims just spoke with the families of lexi, who died in the uvalde massacre, they are at the hearing and are devastated and they feel the gun manufacturers have had no accountability whatsoever. >> so what we know, jake, democrats want accountability but they're having issues coming to the on more gun safety

legislation. that struggle has been going on for years now. what's going on with this gun safety package right now? >> so democrats, chris, were trying to pass an assault weapons ban this week in the house of representatives. the first time in 30 years it had come up for a vote. it passed to the judiciary committee and also a similarly contentious hearing, but they had to shelf those plans after progressives and the congressional black caucus were upset about a companion piece of legislation that would boost police funding. this legislation progresses and they wanted more guardrails on where that police funding went to. speaker nancy pelosi shelled those plans and is going to come back in august and try to pass those pieces of legislation. of course the assault weapons ban doesn't stand of passage in the senate where it's a 50/50

senate and 50/50 breakdown. if democrats are able to rally around this, it will be historic that the democratic house hasn't been able to pass this. again, kind of exposes some of those fault lines, some of that tension in the democratic caucus between the progressive left and the moderates who believe that republicans are making headway in staying soft on crime. >> what do they think they can pass between now and august that's going to change the equation? >> i think democrats want to go home and say moderate, middle of the road democrats want to go home and say they are funding police and they are increasing funding to police. i think a lot of moderate democrats from suburban areas have been, they believe, they tell me all the time they don't want to be painted with the defund police banner. they don't think it's helpful, they don't think it's useful, they don't think it's good to be painted by republicans as soft on crime and they really wanted this as a political cover going into this election season,

where, by the way, democrats are in a tough spot. we don't know until the election is run but democrats are behind the 8 ball and they don't want that as kind of a, you know, over their head. they don't want this as a criticism line from republicans. >> jake sherman, gabe gutierrez, thanks to both of you. >> the last two former minneapolis police officers found guilty of violating george floyd's rights have just been sentenced to prison. jay alexander king, he's there on the left, was sentenced to three years. earlier this year you may remember a jury convicted both of them of failing to provide floyd with medical aid or intervene after officer derek chauvin pressed his knee on george floyd's next. they both go to trial on state charges in january. >> 6,000 people go missing in this country every year.

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tony blinken has to say. we'll have any more headline as we get them. meanwhile, if there was any doubt a political divide in the republican party right now, it has been drawn very clearly by two men who were once in lock step and the chasm is wide and deep. donald trump and mike pence in washington yesterday, and very different views of america from them. trump, despite all the evidence against the big lie, didn't retreat. he doubled down. >> i ran the first time and i won. then i ran a second time and i did much better. we got millions and millions more votes. and you know what? that's going to be the story for a long time, what a disgrace it was, but we may just have to do it again. >> his speech notably dark and negative.

"politico" stated, trump spoke of an america whose streets are riddled with needles and said the dangerous deranged roam our streets with impunity. it could provide a preview of a potential 2024 campaign. for more i'm joined by michael field, former chairman of the rnc and jim messina, ceo of the messina group who ran president obama's 2012 campaign and served as the deputy chief of staff of operations in the white house. well, not exactly, jim messina, a message of hope, is it? >> no, it is not. you're seeing a republican party that is ripped apart by its internal divisions. you see pence talking about the future, you win presidential campaigns talking about your vision for the future. donald trump doesn't have one.

he just wants to litigate the past. and his whole attack on crime is incredibly interesting because, chris, as you reported, this whole crime wave started while trump was president. the facts don't seem to matter to him. all he wants to do is scare voters. and this fight about positivity versus dragging everything into the sewer is going to be the story of the modern day republican primary and who their nominee is in 2024. >> is that really a look at what we're going to be seeing in 2024? because people are saying he could announce any time now. it's going to be a very long couple of years, michael steele. >> yeah, i think it is the vision he has going into 2024. it is a backward look but it's also tagged to what he believes his base voters think and feel about this country right now. they genuinely believe that

they're needle-ridden streets, there are people who are sadists preying on children. we've heard some of this narrative, chris, already play out in the transgender debate. so he's going to continue to juxtapose a sort of cultural war ethic about what's going on culturally up against the backdrop of the 2020 election and motivate the base to be there. now, i'm still not convinced he jumps in because trump is, if nothing, is not afraid of losing and he's also not inclined to do the work. so the reality still remains that i think he's going to hold his position as long as he can to sort of ferret out the field that he wants that's going to best represent the trumpian vision of america should he not get in. if he can't find that, then maybe he does.

but he doesn't see it in the vice president for sure and he doesn't see it in desantis as much as he may, you know, i like governor desantis. we know that's not necessarily the case. so he's going to play his cards as closely as he can and this is a tell from what we saw yesterday of how he looks at things right now. >> you know, before the speech president biden kind of tore into his predecessor about the violence on january 6th against the police. let me just play a little bit of what the president now had to say. >> the capitol police, the d.c. metropolitan police, other law enforcement agencies were attacked and assaulted before our very eyes, speared, sprayed, stomped on, brutalized and lives were lost. you can't be pro insurrection and pro cop. you can't be pro insurrection and pro-democracy. you can't be pro insurrection and pro american. >> clearly that's a message

biden wants to get out there. he was preemptively answering what he knew that donald trump would say. is that the right message from him, jim? >> absolutely. this is a ground that he feels very strong on. as a senator, he was the best friend of the police unions, of the firefighter unions. he wants to have the fight with trump because he's morally outraged by what trump did and it makes smart political sense. you want to take the issue off the table, he knows trump is going to go at him on crime. he's going to try to put the former president back on his haunches. the reality of the world that we live in and we know the challenges fakes democrats here, the economy first and foremost but increasing attention being

paid to what's being said by the january 6 committee. what are the conversations that are going on behind the scenes? where is the 2024 election going to be won, on what message? >> i think before you get to 2024, republicans are concerned about 2022. >> how concerned, michael? >> pardon me? >> that was supposed to be theirs to lose so how concerned in. >> they're concerned because the senate was something that was going to be -- that was going to be the cherry on the top. not so much now. the house dynamics are very different given the kinds of candidates that are winning primary. maryland is no exception to that after our primary a couple of weeks ago. so the reality for republicans has very much changed when you layer on top the kind of candidates that are carrying the standard going through and you talk about the big issues coming out of the supreme court. yes, the economy is in play but what we're seeing in some of the polling, chris, is that voters

are bifurcating. they're saying i'm not happy with where things are on the economy, but what i'm seeing coming at me this november is concerning and how that plays out in the vote is very much going to give us a setup for 2024. you don't get to 2024 without going through 2022 with a high degree of success from the republicans' perspective. it's not just winning the house, it's winning it big and that's something that's a question for them right now. >> thank you guys. appreciate it. missing in america. the new tools and technology being used to help bring home hundreds of thousands of americans that go missing every year. f thousands of minions: the rise of gru, only in theaters. if maga republicans get their way, abortion will be banned nationwide, with no exceptions.

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year in this country. in new mexico, a group of third graders were lost hiking on a school trip and found safely 45 minutes after searchers got the call. in west virginia, a search and rescue team gives the family of robert pore closure after finding his body. driven by research and guided by human behavior cutting search times from days to hours. >> one of the tools we use is a resource called lost person behavior. it was a book written by dr. robert kessler. and it provides dozens of profiles of different missing person categories that we can draw from to get an idea of how people tend to move. >> reporter: the author says it comes down to time. >> time is not the friend of the lost person. most people who are found in the first 24 hours are going to have a 95% chance or higher of being found alive.

once that first 24 hours goes by, the chances start dropping. >> reporter: what types of successes have you had? what's the feedback you're getting from the field? >> essentially 50% of the finds occur within three hours. and above 90% of searches are concluded within a day. so, we actually have some pretty good success. >> reporter: he says he's done the homework. >> while my research started with 24 cases of dementia, it eventually grew to 50,000 cases. >> reporter: in 41 categories that a missing person might fall under. and layers of behavior, those missing people will likely follow. the new jersey state police and its search and rescue coordinator brian endberg have belief. >> we found we're looking for a missing dementia patient who left this long-term care facility. okay, we can lay out 25% found in this range.

50% in this range, 75% in this range. >> reporter: experts say it's about playing the odds putting searchers in best position position possible to find people alive. the case starts with the detectives. >> we try to gather the most information from the friends and family, social media, calendar, social media and vehicles. >> reporter: it's time to draw the maps and put boots on the ground. >> get that first call saying, hey, we've got a vehicle located here. so that's always the first spot on the map and now we've got an incident. >> reporter: using new technology, the search team from the state department of corrects trains to find people who do and don't want to be found. take to the woods. >> so, that's basically showing us how well the area's been covered. so each one of these lines indicates another searcher. as you see this, this has been a game-changer for us to be able to track our teams like this.

>> reporter: they say the new maps and technology are all part of this new thinking and the hope of bringing someone home to their loved ones. >> it's a phenomenal feeling. it's a huge high when you come home -- even if it's just bringing that closure home

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