pushed through, it made something really amazing happened in their community. >> i like the term heroes of democracy, heather mcghee, but thank so much for joining us tonight, the sum of us, podcast on spotify, get in your ear is a soon as you can, thank you. you can. thank you. that is "all in" on this wednesday night. msnbc primeda starts right now with mehdi hasan. good evening. >> good evening, chris. thank you. thanks to you at home for joiningan us tonight. we havein breaking news tonight involving democratic senator joe manchin. it is not the kind of joe manchinth news you may be used . byou now, you probably know joe manchin as the guy who blocks everything in congress. from president biden's build back better agenda, to efforts to fight climate change, to attempts at filibuster reform, tost taxing billionaires, joe manchinna has made himself the n standing up m for the democrati agenda yelling stop, but tonight, senate democrats may have just had a major break through. the top democrat in the senate,

chuckat schumer, released a joi statement, with senator manchin saying that theem west virginia democrat will now support, not oppose, but yes, support the democrats'rt big new budget dea. despite objecting to it, just two weeks ago. now, we don't have all the details yet, but a one-page summary says that the deal will make progress in some pretty big areas. including a 15% minimum tax on corporations, along with other provisions to make the ultra wealthy pay their fair share of tax. lowering affordable care act premiums for millions of americans, allowing medicare to negotiate the price of prescription drugs, something democrats have been trying to achieve for over a decade. decreasing energy production and decreasing carbon emissions over the next 40%. which would be huge.

and 725 pages. obviously, this is not a done deal yet reactions from other democratic members of congress have ranged from cautious optimismge to outright frustratn at having apparently been kept out of the negotiations over thisia deal. in just a moment, i'll be joined by massachusetts senator elizabeth warren, and asking her whatet she thinks of the new de as well as other developments in today's news, the big interest rate rise. shy also note that the senate's other democratic obstructionists, kyrsten sinema, remember her, reportedly just learned of this deal this afternoon, and has not yet committed to back theot proposa. she could still wreck it. and even if it does pass the senate with manchin and kyrsten sinema's blessings it will still need to overcome the objections of some conservative democrats well. house as joe manchin's support does appear to be a potentially big victory for democrats especially for chuck schumer and for joe jo biden, one that may be due in no small part to smart messaging back in january, inspired from

an idea of a national security expert, democrats should rename build back better as the anti-inflation act of 2022 and put it in front of manchin co vote down.vo and six months later, that is sort of what they did. take a look at that again. here is the headline. manchin supports inflation reduction act of 2022. that is how democrats are shifting the narrative on this new slimmed down version of biden's legislative agenda. because many of the policies that the dems have been pushing all along, things like reducing drug price, taxing corporations, investing in new sources of energy, n these are all things that will help reduce inflation, and it comes at r a time when t debate about how america should tacklede inflation is heating u. today, federal reserve chairman jerome powell announced that the fed will increase interest rates byre another three fourths of a percentage point. that may seem like small change

butee each interest rate increa, it increases the cost of mortgages and car loans and student loan payments and those higher costs are not some bad side effect of the fed's policy goal, rather increasing borrowing costs across the economy is the goal. it is what jerome powell wants to happen. because when people have less money, the theory is they spend less money and when people spend less money, inflation goes down. that is whatat we are talking about when i we say that the federal reserve is raising interest rate. there is a case to be made that is the kind of tough medicine our economy needs right now to keep prices from continuing to soar. which is ace real problem that needs to be addressed. but there are also those who think wet may be on the verge taking it too far. one of those people is senator warren. this week, she published this op-ed in "the wall street journal," jerome powell's fed pursues a painful and ineffective inflation cure and the senator writes quote, when the fed raises interest rate, increasing the cost of borrowing money, it c becomes more expense for businesses to invest in

theirst operations. as a result, employers will slow hiring, cut hours and fireworkers, leaving families money.ess in the floodless language of economists, that's referred to as dampening demand. make no mistake, she continues, if theak fed cuts to much, or t abruptly, the o resulting recession will leave millions of people disproportionately lower wagepr workers and workers of color with smaller paychecks or no paychecks at all. what does she think we should do to stem rising inflation? joining us know is senator elizabeth warren.in senator,en thank you for being the show tonight. >> good to see you. >> good to see you, too. let me start by asking you what you think ofle this seemingly major, major deal announced by senators schumer and manchin, because did you even know about this deal prior to today? and is charlie going to finally get the football?ll >> well, i certainly hope that charlie'sly going to get the

football. and think about what this is about. it's called the inflation reduction act of 2022. which is rightly identified. good naming there. but that is exactly what it does. so when you takeac a look at th climate part, for example, the climate part is absolutely about attacking the climate crisis head on. >> yes. >> but large parts of it are about how to bring down costs, for families all across the country. how to have, how to reduce the costs of their utility bills everyty month. how to make their homes more energy efficient, how to have more access to cheaper, cleaner energy. so it'sne about bringing down costs. and then look at the part on health care. the part about reducing the cost of prescription drugs. because the government is going to negotiate.

putting a cap for medicare recipients that says you never have to spend more than 2,000 dollars a year on prescription drugs. and expanding coverage of health care to many people who don't have p it right now. and then look at the third part, and that is how it's paid for. it's paid for by saying to giant corporations that have more than a billion in profits, you're going to have to pay a 15% minimum tax on your book profits. not after you fiddled around with the irs and all of the loopholes that you lobbied in. your book profits. this is serious. and in addition to that, there's going to be the carry interest loophole, it's going to be tightened, we're going to save moneygh on the drugs, i want yo

to look at the three pieces together. >> so ultimately -- >> so carrying on -- >> please, of course. >> we know kyrsten sinema, your colleague from arizona, was not last year a big fan of that. in fact, explicitly opposed to the carried interest law. she hasie not been a big fan of lowering prescription drug costs at least not in recent years. how do we know she is not going to throw something into the works. what is your message to her? >> i'm not doing predictions about any of my colleagues. i'm talking about what makes this a bill that helps reduce inflation and on the part about taxes, that if we can get this through, it not only pays for the climate portion, and the health care portion, but it also has hundreds of billions of dollars left o over to actually reduce the national debt. this is a bill that truly is about fighting inflation,

bringing down costs for families, and putting the country on a sounder economic footing. >> so you've described this bill as manchin and schumer as anti-inflationary. the fed has been doing some anti-inflationary activities this week. you warned that jerome powell shouldn't raise rates again, but he did today. d another historic rise. how worried you are now of the prospect of interest rise reducedpr recession in the comi weeks or months? >> i'm very worried. and the reason i'm worried is that using the one tool that the fed has, which is to raise interest i rates, and using it aggressively to pound on this economy, when it doesn't address many of the costs that families are feeling directly, is not a way to help families out, and will not address some of the biggest drivers of inflation. in fact, just a few weeks ago,

fed chair powell was in the banking committee, we were in a hearing, ande i asked him whetr or not increasing interest rates was going to help with fuel prices. and he said no. well, is it going to help with food prices? andth he said no. we have to remember the causes of inflation right now, we've got supply chain problem, increasing interest rates isn't going to help with that. we still have covid outbreaks all around the world, and that stops supply. >> what would you do instead, senator? >> soyo i would do many of the things that the biden administration is doing right now, and i want to give full krichlt they're working to try to get covid under control all around the world. theyol are working to untangle e supply chain. they are attacking these giant corporations. attacking the problem of price gouging. with these giant corporations. and they're doing what they can

to bring down fuel prices. including releasing oil from the strategic oil reserve. and that's an approach that says we understand what the problem is, and we're going to do the things that will attack that directly. between that, and congress doing its part, if we can go forward, on the inflation reduction act of 2022, i think, i think is good for our country, not just in the short term, but also the long term. >> bit way, i think you should probably stick to calling it the inflation reduction act and by not calling it by the first name ira. and you were one of the first senatorsre to call for donald trump to be impeached in 2019, and james carville says you should be picked as attorney general, and if you were picked

as attorney general, would you more urgent than merrick garland and looking at the criminal probe into the 2020 election. butpr to be clear, there is no evidenceto of an investigation trump himself yet. >> i think it is very important that the department of justice haveep the space to conduct the investigations and go where those investigations lead them, and then when they see the evidence in front of them, that they make the prosecutions that they believe they have the evidence for. i believe that that's what merrick atgarland will do. and i want to make sure he's got the space to do s it. >> and just on the midterms and elections coming up, what is your position on the ongoing debate about the democratic governors association, should they be paying for ads regarding

election deniers, a race in pennsylvania or a congressional racenn in michigan, is that dangerous in your view? >> i think that is enormously dangerous. i think the best way to spend our money and time volunteering and energy is to support really good democratic candidates.s know, which reminds me, we got news today about the democratic primary in wisconsin. i've been a long-time supporter of nandela barnes and the person number onean in that race and i want to give him real credit, the candidate says he didn't see a path for stage and instead of staying in the past twoad weeks and spending a lot of money on his own campaign, that he is going toth join hands with barn and help push him forward. because he recognizes that nandela has the best possible chance to beat one of the worst senator, ron johnson.

so anybody out here, who is thinking about how can they help, this is a good moment to send mandela barnes a little money. mandela barnestt needs the help. and that's what we should be doing. because you really care about the midtermal races, let's suppp the strongest progressive democrats out there. >> we're almost 100 days away from the midterms,t once those midterms are done, we will starl talking about 2024. you ranin against joe biden in 2020ai and lost in the primarie there's a lot of talk about whether he should runer again i 2024, and a new cnn poll shows a whopping 75% of democratic and democraticcr leaning voters wana candidate other than joe biden. do your agree with them? should biden run again in 2024? will you be running again in 2024? >> yes, joeagai biden should be running, he is running, i will be running for senate in 2024, but i want to say this. i'm give you the sentences. we've got to stop the cat nip

about 2024. we are 100 days out from the midterms. and what happens in 2022, two more democratic senators and we can get rid of the filibuster, and we can actually protect the voting rights, we can make roe v. wade the law of the land, and we can do even more on the climate crisis, we can actually -- >> understood, senator. and regarding those issues, but it is disconnected when you see polls that show, when you see polls that show democrats might hold on to the senate and the house, the same numbers show bad numbers for joe biden. you can't ignore that t disconnect, you can? >> what we have to do right now is fight the fight that is in front of us and fight the fight that is in front of us, it is the 2022 fight. if we hold on to the house, and we expand our lead in the senate by two, we can get rid of the filibuster, we can do enormous

good for the american people, and that puts us in a position in 2024 where we have more opportunities to win. if we start getting tangled up on 2024, and fail to pay attention to business in 2022, that's not only going to hurt us in 2022, it's going to bite us on the rear end in 2024. >> thank you very much, a good way end to the conversation. we're outwa of time. massachusetts senator elizabeth warren, thank you for your time. appreciate the conversation. >> you bet. as donald trump's actions become a focus of the justice department's criminal investigation into january 6th, there's one group of people close to trump who appear to be of particular interest. wait until you see who they are. that's next. don't go away. y are. that's next. don't go away.

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it's been nearly a week since the january 6th investigation adds some rather you, humiliating video, and this is what we saw on the last january 6th hearing followed by a clip of the reaction to the footage inside the hearing room. >> senator josh hawley also had to flee. earlier that afternoon, before the joint session started he

walked across the east front of the capitol, as you can see in this photo, he raised his fist in solidarity with the protesters, already amassing at the security gate. he spoke with the capitol police officer who was out there at the time. she told us that senator hawley's gesture riled up the crowd. and it bothered her greatly. because he was doing it in a safe space. protected by the officers and the barriers. later that day, senator hawley fled, after those protesters he helped to rile up stormed the capitol. see for yourself. >> ouch. it didn't even seem like the

committee was trying to play for laughs but instantly recognized as funny a brutal moment for any politician but particularly one who literally has a book coming out all about manliless. since last week, he has been pilloried by his home state's two major newspapers and he has not responded until today when reporters caught up to him in a capitol hallway. >> the january 6th committee has the video that happened on january 6th. do you regret that fist bump. >> no, i don't regret anything that i did on that day, and it's privilege to be attacked by the january 6th committee and i want to say thank you for all of the help with my fundraising. it has been tremendous. >> those who were running from them then -- >> let's not forget about the 100% trolling.

>> oh, come now, come now, we are all pretending any of this is serious, are we? if we were to take it seriously, my it have to unseal questions. i mean the scorn dripping off of senator hawley is something to behold. and something like 150 police officers were injured and several died in the weeks after and a capitol police officer alleging that his fist bump riled up the crowd, he brags about how great it all is for his fundraisering and today he sells merchandise with that image outside the capitol and he continues to do despite a cease and desist letter from the company that owns the copy right on that photo. it increasingly looks like the justice department is taking it very seriously. we brought the late breaking news from the "washington post" now confirmed by nbc news, that the justice department is

investigating donald trump's actions as part of its january 6th criminal probe. today, nbc news and cnn are both reporting that the former top aide to trump's chief of staff who gave blockbuster public testimony to the january 6th committee, cassidy hutchinson is cooperating with federal prosecutors, that is on top of federal grand jury testimony, we just learned about, by two former top aides to mike pence. and we also learned today that the justice department has obtained a new search warrant for the phone of trump lawyer john eastman, a key figure in the plot to overturn the election. federal agents seized the phone last month, now they're starting to go through its contents. which is just the latest indication that eastman and trump's other outside lawyers who crafted the various schemes to overturn the election are central to the justice department's investigation. according to the reporting about the d.o.j.'s interest in trump's actions, a lot of what prosecutors are asking about are trump's interactions with the instructions to, those lawyers,

that includes john eastman, who according to testimony by the january 6th committee, aimed that his legal theories would be rejected 9-0 by the supreme court and jeffrey clark who tried to implement his own mini coup at the justice department and diet dr. pepper connoisseur sidney powell who claimed the election was stolen by china or the deceased dictator of venezuela and launch the computer servers, and rudy giuliani, whose law license is suspended in new york and his electronics have been seized in a separate federal investigation. today our friend joyce vance, former u.s. attorney writes among all of the strands the justice department is investigating around january 6th, quote, there is one thread attorney general merrick garland and team should prioritize, bad lawyers. these inept and unscrupulous

lawyers may include those cullable for the big lie and the insurrection, joyce vance joins us now. >> thanks for having me. >> why are these, why are these bad lawyers as you call them so key to the justice department's january 6th investigation? >> well, when d.o.j. commences an investigation, it is looking at conduct. it doesn't target people. and the problem with this investigation, i think this is a gross understatement, but this is such a complicated situation, d.o.j. has already charged hundreds of people, and that's before they have even gotten to the meat of january 6th. so if you're thinking about conduct, one of the common threads that runs through all of these potential conspiracies, whether it's the fake electors, the pressure campaign on mike pence, the day of the insurrection itself, there are bad lawyers present at every

stage, and focusing on that part of the conduct, potentially turning them into cooperators, to provide a series of witnesses who had direct contact with those most culpable, those at the white house and the former president itself, could be a direct line for merrick garland, but what you want to doer do here if you're d.o.j., you don't want to stop at the mid-level of responsibility, you ultimately want to hold those who are most accountable for what the country has been put through, you want to hold those folks accountable. >> so joyce, are there unique challenges posed by the fact that these key players are lawyers? could it make it particularly hard for the justice department to investigate them because they could claim some kind of attorney-client privilege? >> there are hoops that you have to jump through. for instance you talked about recently obtaining permission to go into john eastman's phone and to take a look at what is inside of that, that means d.o.j. will have to use what is called a

clean team or a group of prosecutors that won't be involved in prosecuting any substantive cases but look at information and work with a special master or judge and make sure that the folks using that evidence in a case don't properly oversee anything that should be cloaked in privilege. >> and joyce, help us understand this latest reporting about the justice department investigating donald trump's actions. that is not the same thing as criminally investigating donald trump himself, is it? explain the distinction, please. >> this is a very fine line that i think even as prosecutors we sometimes are maybe not as precise when we explain this, as we should be. d.o.j. looks at conduct. it investigates potential crime. something that you never do as a prosecutor, is say for instance, let's go get donald trump, right? we are not a country that believes in the lock them up approach to criminal prosecution. we're focused on crimes.

and as d.o.j. investigates crimes, the people that you might want to talk to during an investigation tend to fall into three groups. there are witnesses, people who have information to use, that, or information that is helpful to you, in uncovering the truth, there's subjects, those are people whose conduct falls loosely within the parameters of the crime that you're investigating, and they may be actually criminally responsible for the conduct, you don't know for certain, that's why you're investigating, and then there are targets, those are people who you have evidence against, and who you intend as a prosecutor to bring charges against, so you're looking at all of that as a prosecutor, investigating the conduct to determine who is responsible and who should be charged. >> we'll have to leave it there. former u.s. attorney joyce vance, thank you for your time. >> good to see you. new developments tonight, in

the case of wnba star brittney griner who is facing ten years in a russian prison. a deal the u.s. is offering could be the key to bringing her home, that's next. bringing her home, that's next.

wnba star and american citizen brittney griner testified from a cage in a russian courtroom today, as her trial for drug charges continues. her defense asked if she could be out of the prisoner cage for

her testimony as the 6'9" griner is too tall to testify without standing up and hunching over and she testified seated in what some call are show trial of a pre-determined outcome. she faces up to ten years in prison. she has been detained in russia for more than five months now, following her arrest in a moscow airport the week before russia's invasion of ukraine. some believe she is a political pawn by vad vladimir putin. and she had no intention of breaking law bringing a small amount of cannabis to country and after recovering from covid and on a 13-hour flight, she was asked to sign a few documents and an interpreter was present but did not explain to griner what she was signing so griner used google translator on her phone in an attempt to

understand what the documents said. and amid griner's testimony today, cnn was first to report on a potential prisoner exchange between russia and the u.s., with the biden administration reportedly offering convicted russian arms dealer viktor boot who is serving a 25-year sentence in the u.s. in exchange for brittney griner and paul whelan another american in russian detention. and the secretary of state blinken in a press briefing today would not comment on the details. only telling reporters quote, we've got a substantial proposal on the table weeks ago, to facilitate their release. when pushed by reporters to further address that substantial proposal, this is what blinken said. >> we are very focused on getting brittney griner and paul whela nochld home. this is something we're working on every single day and most of the time we're working it quietly, behind the scenes, for obvious reasons. and i would say just because you don't see us doing something, or you don't hear us talking about

it doesn't mean it is not happening. on the contrary. this is something that bringing people home, bringing brittney griner home, bringing paul home, this is something that we're focused on 24/7, seven days a week. >> so can we expect russia to allow griner and whelan to return with some sort of deal? joining us now is kimberly st. julian, her work is focused on race and the black experience of russia and the soviet union and consulted with the wnba's players union about griner's detainment. thank you very much for being here. >> brittney griner testified today that the documents she signed upon her arrest were written in russian that no one explained them to her, what do you make of that? why did russian law enforcement not provide her with a translator? was it deliberate? >> this is exactly what i saw happen as soon as i saw the footage of her detained in the airport with her signing

documents and i wondered if they're in english and i thought they were in russian and they were. so in russian law, she should have had access to a translator but in russia law, it doesn't necessarily say you have access to a translator at the point you're being detained but you should have access to a translator but google translate is not a good tool for translating anything, or particularly, documents like legal documents. so i don't know if this is just a case of russia being petty. we don't necessarily know if there were trained english speaking translators on hand at that time in moscow in the airport. so you kind of have an either or situation. but russia definitely took advantage of the situation. and she is being asked to sign documents. >> with the u.s. now offering a notorious arms deal in order to bring griner and whelan back to the u.s. is, this case playing out as you expected at the start?

what kind of dangerous precedent could a potential prisoner swap set should russia attempt another prisoner swap in the future? >> so this is playing out pretty much how i thought it would, because brittney griner is such a huge celebrity and has so much pull, it makes it that russia would try to get the biggest player they can and that is viktor boot and they have been telegraphing for months that they want him in exchange for the americans and this is longstanding. so on the other hand, the biden administration has to think about the precedent. and this is for decades a fear of american policy makers, particularly in foreign policy and international relations is engaging in hostage diplomacy. you don't want our foreign enemies to think that it is grabbing innocent americans is the best way to get what you want out of united states. so the very fine line that the united states has to walk. >> quick last question before we run out of time. putting prisoners in cages

appears to be standard practice in russia but you can explain the possible impact or goal of essentially putting a black american woman in display behind bars in a place like this in this way in a place like russia? >> i think the key image of brittney griner behind bars is no one, including any famous american is above the law in russia and i think that is key, that russia demands its law be respected and they're using brittney griner as an american that no one is above the law, not even a famous american. >> thank you so much for your analysis. appreciate it. >> thank you. so as if the trump brand weren't controversial enough, it's now raking in what critics say is blood money. that story, straight ahead. don't go away. that story, straight ahead don't go away.

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when it comes to america's relationship with the kingdom of saudi arabia there are depressingly two basic approaches from the people in power, one is being friendly with saudi arabia to further our own interest national interests even with it creates pretty awful optics, take for example president biden's trip to saudi arabia and criticized widely for fist bumping the crown prince and according to u.s. intelligence ordered the killing

of journalist jamal khashoggi and if prices at the pump are lower, then that pays the price for the saudis, and then the brazen, self interested ways, and that former president trump's approach and approach number two that prompts an ad like this. >> my two brothers were murdered on 9/11. >> i live every single day without my father. >> fbi files show the saudi government was involved. >> this government tournament is taking place 50 miles from ground zero. >> it's disgusting. >> worse than a slap in the face. >> you're taking money from an evil regime. >> 3,000 americans were killed on american soil. >> how much money to turn your back on your own country? >> 200 million? sure i'll forget about the atrocities. >> never forget the golfers who are taking this blood money. >> that was an ad by a 9/11 advocacy group, taking issue with the fact that this weekend,

president trump's form, former president trump bedminster golf course in new jersey will take place in the liv golf series, financed by saudi arabia. it is called liv, because liv is the roman numeral for 54 which is the number of holes played at each event. trump told "the wall street journal" this week, quote, i think liv has been a great thing for saudi arabia, for the image of saudi arabia. i think it will be an incredible investment from that standpoint and that's more valuable than lots of other things because you can't buy that even with billions of dollars. as for any human rights concerns about saudi arabia, that might dampen this weekend's festivities like say the kingdom's murder of "washington post" columnist jamal khashoggi, a typically tone deaf trump said that's not a concern, quote, i can say that from the standpoint of khashoggi, that has died down so much, it has seemed to totally died down, nobody has asked me that question in months. besides the murder of a journalist working for an american newspaper, there is the additional concern about saudi

arabia's connection to the 9/11 attack on the united states. 15 of the 19 hijackers responsible for the terror that day were saudi citizens. addressing those specific concerns, trump said, quote, i don't know much about the 9/11 families, i don't know what is the relationship to this, and their very strong feeling, and i can understand their feelings, i can't really comment on that, because i don't know exactly what they're saying, and what they're saying who did what. forgive me, it's always difficult to read a trump quote on screen. as i said, for donald trump, human rights take a backseat to making money. him making money. and in his view, it is quote an incredible investment. on friday, families of 9/11 victims plan to hold a press conference and rally at trump's bedminster golf course just ahead of the tournament. they want to draw attention to the kingdom's connection to 9/11 and call out the former president and all of the golfers participating in the tournament. to take what they call blood money. joining us is brett eagleson, founder of 9/11 justice, his

father bruise died in the south tower on september 11th, brett, thank you for being here. and of course, we're so sorry for your loss on that tragic day. you told "politico" that a representative for trump personally called you a few days ago in response to a letter that 9/11 justice sent to him, relaying the group's quote deep pain and anger over trump's decision to host the liv event at the golf course and 9/11 is really near and dear to him and so important to him, he will remember everyone who signed the letter and he personally told this individual to reach out. what was your reaction to that? >> well, first of all, i got that trump call on a saturday. on a monday, he told the wall street wall street "the wall street journal," he told "the wall street journal" what the 9/11 families are talking about, and he understands it and he doesn't understand it and maybe he does, and maybe he doesn't, and i'm baffled by that explanation, because on saturday, the aide told me the

former president specifically told them to call us because of our letter and we laid out the points and we have declassified documents thanks to the biden executive order and the documents show far more than 15 of the 19 hijackers were saudi citizens. and i want to get past that point. in the media, all we hear is 15 hijackers. we have evidence from our own fbi that there were at least a dozen saudi officials here in the united states supporting the hijackers. it's the fbi's own words, the sworn affidavit from fbi member, not from the saudi support network, in the united states, before 9/11, 9/11 would have had a zero percent chance of success. so it is so much more than 15 hijackers. and the other thing i want to say is that the 9/11 commission ended in 2004, and we're talking about documents from 2015, 16,

and 17 so as far as i'm concerned we are ruling the 9/11 commission null and void. >> what is ironic, i remember donald trump doing the 2016 campaign, wait until we open up the documents and you'll hear by the saudis and saudis buy apartments in my buildings and i like them. if donald trump called you up after the show and saying the saudis are my friends, and spending money and why shouldn't i host them, what would you say? >> something tells me he's not watching your show tonight and i wish he was and so he would hear me because his aide was not hearing me. as crazy as it is, we are talking about a former president of the united states, one of the most powerful men in the world and accurately did say that saudis did do 9/11 and open up the documents, we will show you that the saudis did, and in 2019, i met with president trump, i met with him with my mother and 11 family members and looked us in the eye and said we help us and declassify the

documents. we were there pleading with him on 9/11, shook our hands, say don't worry, help is coming, we will declassify the documents. less than 24 hours later, he invokes state secrets on us, and he brought a nuclear weapon to a fistfight between us and the d.o.j. we now know he did that to protect the saudis. so you know, the president can't have it both ways, right? he can't have it both ways. because he knew exactly what the saudis did. >> sadly, brett, you're not the first person he looked in the eyes and lied to. we will have to leave it there. brett eagleson, founder of 9/11 foundation, and brett's father was a hero in the south tower and helped others evacuate. >> thank you very much and sorry for your loss. >> thank you. >> thank you, brett. far right leader viktor is drawing condemnation from the staunchest supporters after saying europeans should not become peoples of mixed race but

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if you know one thing about hungary's far right reader, prime minister victor orban and what he stands for, it is probably europeans are in fear of replaced in their home country by nonwhite countries, and it is something that they've been demagoguing about for years, but this past weekend something he talked about, and how he talked about it seemed to cross a line. in a speech to ex pats in romania, he said while it is okay for europeans to mix with each other, it is not okay to mix with noneuropeans according to an english translation of his speech, hungarians are willing to mix with one another, meaning

other europeans but we do not want to become peoples of mixed race. after he said, that one of his members of his own inner circle, someone who supported him for 0 years had enough and the long-time adviser resigned and i don't know how you are presenting a pure nazi text worth of goebels, you know who didn't think he has gone too far, the conservative base of the republican party, because he is still scheduled to speak next week at cpac in dallas, texas, and you can imagine hosting a speaker who is publicly against mixed race societies might be kind of problematic but you would be wrong. here is how they responded this week, according to bloomberg, quote, let's listen to the man speak. we'll see what he says and if we have a problem, they should raise. it when you invite a fascist who says racist things to your

conversation, maybe you should do more than just "raise it" it with him and maybe oppose him. maybe that's just me. maybe the modern american conservative movement is just orb with fascism and racism. that does it for us tonight. we'll see you again tomorrow. "way too early" with jonathan lemire is coming up next. i do not think the u.s. is currently in a recession. and the reason is, that there are too many areas of the economy that are performing you know, too well, and of course, i would point to the labor market in particular. 2.7 million people hired in the first half of the year. it doesn't make sense that the economy is in a recession with this kind of thing happening. so i don't think the u.s. economy is in recession right now. >> federal reserve chairman jerome powell standing firm on the state of the u.s. economy. it comes as the fed again hik