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be a number more than 2,500 is putting a strain on the department, and that's not counting people who committed crimes outside or people involved in the fake elector scheme or people who were and former president trump. and the pace of information is not slowing down. it's growing. last night a spokesman for the 1/6 committee said they decided to begin sharing transcript interviews with the justice department. 20 at first but there may be more to come. that's because we're seeing more members of former president trump's cabinet meeting with the committee, including steve mnuchin and mick mulvaney. mick mulvaney talked about the questions the committee wanted answered. >> why did i communicate, why did i say what i said? i sent some tweets and texts on january 6th. they want to talk about that.
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i was fairly heavily involved in the trump campaign. they want to know about the discussions i had leading up to the election day and the discussions right after the election day and there were some questions toward the end, general questions about how a white house might run. >> according to the associated press, former officials, including john ratcliffe and d.a. secretary chad wolf are also in talks with committee. it comes as "the washington post" broke the news that january 6th text messages from wolf and his deputy at the time of missing, echos of secret service. they say the attorney general knew five months ago those texts were lost but never told congresses. wolf and cuccinelli tweeted about it this morning, both
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saying they went missing after they returned their phones. ali vitali joins us. ali, more and more information coming in all the time. more and more people coming in, including former cabinet officials. what's your take on the pace and the scope of the january 6 committee's investigation just in recent days? >> reporter: chris, this feels like the opposite of a pause. i know we're not standing outside the hearing room and watching they present information, but it's clear that they are still be very active behind the scenes. and what's also beginning to take shape is the fact that these hearings in the initial eight that we saw may have just been a way to show everyone in trump world, hey, look, we can bring the goods on this. it's why we saw the vice chair liz cheney saying something like
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the dam is breaking and there are more people coming forward. you look at that list of ex-trump aides or allies who are in talks to come in and speak with the committee. that does tell a story they are getting cooperation from heem people who are close to the former president and their investigation is centered on him. there are ancillary players allies of the former president, too. kevin mccarthy, he was subpoenaed by the committee, stone walled the committee and there are keep things they want to ask him about, including conversations that cassidy hutchinson testified to under oath, specifically the idea that mccarthy called her on the day of the 6th effectively asking is trump coming up here and urging against that. this is what mccarthy said today when he was pressed. >> i don't remember having any conversations with her about coming -- about the president coming to the capitol. i just don't recall any of that.
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i recall my conversation with dan scavino, i remember calling jared. that was in the midst of pop coming into the capitol and being removed from the office. >> reporter: again, a reminder of why they want to speak with kevin mccarthy and in talks with bennie thompson today he was saying they are considering still what to do with these republican lawmakers who have stone walled their subpoenas but thomson also said when you don't want to remember, it's sometimes convenient to say you just can't remember. that's thompson's read on it anyway. >> politico had the reporting about the 20 transcripts being handed over. do we have any details about what's in them and why they're being shared first? >> one reason that the justice department always wants to see transcripts of interviews that
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happen under oath before congress is because something that's key to them is being able to make sure what people are telling them under oath and what any people might say on the witness stand point necessarily contradict previous testimony that they have provided. to be clear, it would be incredibly premature to think the d.o.j. is making any of these witnesses in criminal cases. the standard procedure is to make sure any hypothetical future witnesses haven't presented sworn testimony that contradicts itself, even in ways that might be tonal or emphasis. those are concerns they are when it comes to credibility of future witnesses and prosecutors as a general matter don't love it when witnesses in criminal probes have already made multiple sworn statements to other investigative bodies.
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going through transcripts, comparing things, checking for consistency, that's intensive, time intensive labor and to the point of ryan reilly's excellent reporting you highlighted at the beginning of this segment, d.o.j.'s resources are finite, their time is finite. it makes sense they'd want to get these materials as quickly as possible. >> but it is the fine tooth comb part of the investigation, like she says, comparing transcripts to perhaps other transcripts to an interview they've either done or are going to do. what in your mind is the significance of these transcripts? >> well, you're right about one thing, chris, which is the devil is in the details. for those who sometimes think that the pace of d.o.j.'s investigation has been too slow have never seen up close, the meticulous work that is required to make sure that a case is airtight as it needs to be to be able to prove a case beyond a reasonable doubt. but one thing that's interesting here is the specific witnesses
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whose statements they want to start with. this very much trump's inner circle. these are cabinet people. there are a thousand people whose transcripts they could be looking at. that suggests to me their focus is move being moving quickly t trump's inner circle. they're looking into the plot, not so much the boots on the ground but those who may be involved in the inner circle of the planning. the other interesting thing i think about the cabinet officials is there likely was discussion among them of invoking the 25th amendment to remove the president from office. although that is not really a matter of crime or criminal justice for the justice department to prosecute, i wonder what in those conversations demonstrate donald trump's intent. people might be saying things
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about you wouldn't believe the outrageous things he said to me that show he's unfit and may show criminal intent. >> we remember from the interview that lester holt did with the attorney general that he said it's inevitable that the committee is going to find things that we haven't found so far, of course vice versa as well. but does this first 20 indicate that this is just the start, that the doors are open and they have a process now? >> i think there's no question that this is not the totality of what the select committee is going to turn over to the d.o.j. in terms of witness transcripts. the select committee at the same time they're providing these transcripts to d.o.j., they're also proceeding with doing new interviews with new witnesses every week. so the information very much keeps coming in. the fact that d.o.j. and the select committee are finally on the same page and have this communication channel established in a formal way is a significant development. d.o.j. prosecutors have prepare
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expressed frustration publicly with the select committee because they weren't turning over these materials quickly enough. they suggested that it was something creating a real problem for the criminal work that prosecutors over at d.o.j. have been doing. from the d.o.j. perspective, this is a little bit overdue. that said, d.o.j. doesn't control what congress does, they're separate branches of government and making sure cooperation works properly between two independent branches is sometimes a little bit more complicated than people outside might expect. so it's an important development, it's likely to result in an increase in volume of actionable information going over to d.o.j., and i'm sure senior officials at the department are breathing a sigh of relief that this channel of information sharing is finally established. >> barbara, at the same time there's that nbc reporting that the justice department doesn't have all the manpower obviously that it would like to deal with
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all of this. i want to read part of the article. it says, quote, "although hundreds of ready made cases are in the hands of federal law enforcement official, the pace of arrests has slowed noticeably. every new case requires new resources from the justice department and the fbi, as well as any other law enforcement entity assisting with arrest, which often take place far away from the nearest fbi field office and starts the clock on defendant's speedy trial rights." is the solution to slow everything down until the d.o.j. can catch up? is there any interrelation between the thousands of people who actually got into the capitol or were part of the insurrection and sort of the high are hanging fruit, the people within trump's inner circle? >> i see this as a management challenge. i'm confident the justice department will solve it. when you have a large bureaucracy, though you have lots of resources, there are thousands of fbi agents and prosecutorss are many of them are assigned to very specific
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missions, white collar crime, violent crime, terrorism, whatever it may be. it can be difficult to reallocate people on the fly. but resource allocation is what managers do in government. people who work in government are accustomed to the idea of budget screens and resource challenges and they need to be very p handle some of these lower level. it did happen in the early days of the pandemic that prosecutors from around the country were holding some of the lower level trespass cases at the capitol and so we just need more of that. >> barbara mcquade, ali vitali,
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nobody's gotten to the bottom of 9/11 unfortunately and they should have, as to the maniacs that did that horrible thing to our city, to our country, to the world. so nobody's really been there, but i can tell you that there are a lot of really great people that are out here today and we're going to have a lot of fun and we're going to celebrate and money is going to charity. >> what former president trump said isn't true. we know 15 of the 19 hijackers on 9/11 were from saudi arabia. he was trying to defend himself against criticism from families of 9/11 victims for his decision to host a saudi-funded golf tournament at his bedminister club. that's different from what he said during his 2016 campaign for president. take a listen. >> who blew up the world trade center? it wasn't the iraqis, it was
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saudi. we ought to get bush or somebody to have the documents open. if you open the documents, i think you're going to see it was saudi arabia. >> trump appeared to be referencing 28 pages redacted into the joint inquiry into the 9/11 attacks, those pages widely implicated saudi elites of financing the attacks. joining me is investigative reporter josh dossi. trump just elevated this further into the political and emotional realm? >> yes, by joining with liv golf, they're trying to up end the pga tour and take players away. a lot of folks are accusing the saudi government of trying to whitewash its human rights record and whitewash killing
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jamaal kashoggi and infiltrate a big sports arena in the united states. a lot of courses and a number of players have joined with them but most prominently is former president trump by having two of his clubs at part of their tournament series. >> from your most recent reporting the pga cancelled its agreement to host the 2022 championship in bedminister and trump's club has been formally black listed. is this the only game in town for trump's golf clubs? in other words, it's the way for him to make money? >> it's certainly a multi-million dollar payout for the former president. the pga america took away events at his clubs they agreed to have after he made controversial comment about immigrants and after january 6th. and he's wanted forever to host big events there. when the pga tour was removed
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from his course, he decided to partner up with the saudi liv golf. if you talk to the former president about it, he says i would have done the pga tour but they're the ones who pulled away from me. >> as president, trump met with some of the families of 9/11 victims and promised to declassify the documents that he referenced in that clip we just played from 2016. you report on what happened after that meeting. tell us about it. >> reporter: right. so i talked to one of the 9/11 victims avenue families who were in the oval office of trump. he promised to declassify the documents. he said people left crying and hugging, they were overjoyed in his words. a couple of days later former attorney general bill barr cited state secrets and said we're not giving you those documents
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afterall and these families have been a pain in the former president's side. they've scheduled protested outside his club and frequently mention that clip you just played from fox news in 2016 where he said he believed the saudis were responsible for 9/11. a family member i interviewed said if you really think someone is responsible for 9/11 or least financing it, do you really want to be doing business with them? but here the kickoff was yesterday and it seems like the answer right now is yes. >> josh, thank you so much for coming on the program. appreciate it. senate republicans facing major backlash today after voting being against extended medical coverage for millions of veterans exposed to toxic burn pits. the act was passed initially by the senate with a vote of 84-19.
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it was sent back to the senate and a group of 41 republicans, including 25 who supported the measure just a month ago voted no instead, shocking veterans and lawmakers. one of the strongest advocates for the bill has been john stewart, offering his reaction late last night on msnbc. >> i've never seen anything like it. nobody on the hill has ever seen anything like it and the truth is the people who suffered the most and had to fight the hardest are the ones who will once again bear the brunt of this, you know, betrayal. boy, we love war but, boy, we don't like to clean up the consequences. always monies for war, never money for the war fighters. you know, they keep talking about why is there a recruitment problem in the army? because of the pronouns they're
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using. it's not the pronounce. it's that young people see that this government doesn't live up to its obligations to its fighters. it's as simple as that. >> chuck schumer said he will bring the bill up for a vote again on monday. governor andy beshear announced at least six people have been killed in devastating floods there. he added an official death count is still being tallied. at about the same time, the white house announced that president biden approved an expedited major disaster declaration for kentucky. the governor said hundreds of homes are still underwater and many road remain unpassable. rescue crews are scrambling to find survivors. >> and will the candidate that trump endorsed win a key
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dedicate $369 billion to the fight against climate change and give a real shot in the arm to the biden agenda ahead of pivotal mid-term elections this fall. one potential roadblock, democratic senator yrsten sinema who refused to say whether she will support the bill and was missing during the session yesterday. have you seen senator sinema? will she vote to support it? >> i'm not her spokesperson. i know this is a big bill and she was deeply involved in getting the chips bill enacted into law and trying to get marriage equality across the finish line. i know she's someone who likes the understand the details of legislation. perfectly reasonable to take a few days. i don't speak for her but i can tell you that every time i've talked to her about climate, she wants to take major, bold
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action. certainly the state of arizona is experiencing the negative impacts of climate change. so i won't predict anything except to say we're in good conversations and it is not unusual to want a couple of days to read the bill. >> so big picture you're confident you have the votes? >> i'm confident but not overconfident. we've been on the precipice of passing this before. we do stand on the precipice of reducing the cost of prescription medicine for millions of americans by making billion dollar corporations pay at least 15%, a lot of them pay zero and taking climate action, reducing emissions by 40% by the year 2030. this isn't pie in the sky stuff. this is going to transform the
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american economy in a positive way and save people money and create new jobs while attacking the climate crisis. i could not be more thrilled. >> tell me why you think this happened now. do you think it's everything that's going on? you mentioned arizona. there's almost not a state where we haven't seen absolutely devastating weather. right now it's going on in kentucky. there are children who are dieing in floods we saw the strip last night in vague gas being flooded. what moved this? >> you know, i don't know. i do think that there's not a single reasonable person out there who doesn't understand the urgency of climate change and understand that weather is getting really severe and storms and floods and wildfires are getting not just more severe but way, way more frequent. when you experience it in realtime, it becomes less of a political question and more of a question of physics but also a question of morality. so i think the impetus is there to take action and i think the other thing that needs to be said is that chuck schumer never
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left the table and joe manchin, despite what it looked like, never left the table and they just stayed in there through a very, very difficult period of negotiating and we have a bill that will reduce inflation, reduce the cost of prescription medicine and be a big, bold climate bill. >> this isn't the only thing on your plate. republicans as you well know tanked that wildly supported bill that expanded medical coverage for veterans exposed to toxic burn pits. veterans are furious. what do you think is going on here and will this bill eventually make it through? chuck schumer said he'll bring it back up on monday. >> they are clearly taking their marbles and going home. they're so mad we're going to, cute on our agenda, that we're going to do what we promised to do, they're going to tank other bills they claim to support. it started with the chips bill. they said they were going to tank something they said was essential for the national security if we reduced the cost
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of prescription medicine. now they're trying to tank the pact act, which talks care of veterans exposed to burn pits and now there's at least some chatter they're going to kill gay marriage if we try to enact this legislation to reduce the cost of prescription medicine. we're not going to be deterred. the second thing is just not as a moral matter but as a political matter. it strikes me as stupid to try to punish the american people because democrats are doing popular thing. >> senator, it's good to talk to you on friday afternoon. good luck as you are whipping those votes. for more on the potential impact of the climate bill, let's bring in david wells, author of "the inhabitable earth, life after warming." you published an op-ed in "the new york times." "this bill is a compromise obviously and outwardly. it is also an historic
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achievement for the climate left and a tribute to its moral fervor and political realism." realistically what does this accomplish? >> most of the analysis is in line with what the architect said, that it will reduce 40% by 2030. it puts us in the race. it means we are no longer going to be viewed as a laughing stock around the world for doing absolutely nothing on this incredibly important issue. so it does that mostly by extending tax subsidies for clean energy, a lot of money for evs and for some for nuclear and carbon capture. unfortunately, it also puts in there some sort of bad stuff. it's going t extend leasing on oil and gas in the gulf of mexico. i think that's the cost of doing business given the political economy we live in and on the baseline from where we were a week ago, certainly where we're a year ago, five years ago, this is huge step forward. imperfect but huge step forward.
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. >> you say there's more money than the raw number would suggest, right? >> there's billions. it can trigger huge amounts of private sector spending, which is booming already and benefit from federal support and especially if we can get better regulatory guidance. >> this was shocking. i mean, people who have been on capitol hill for decades couldn't believe what they were seeing. npr said "in just under two weeks, the united states went from shirking its climate goals." do you think all of the devastating weather we've seen that there is a growing awareness and a sense the clock it ticking? >> it may be the response to
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manchin's announcement that he was backing away from the deal. i noted a quote from john pedes -- podesta. a lot of this is political kabuki and this deal had been essentially reached beforehand. there was talk on sources that they had essentially reached an agreement a few weeks ago and publicly stepped away from it in order to allow republicans to vote for the chips bill and came out a few hours later with what he said was a brand new 700-page bill, which had been rebranded as an inflation cutting bill. probably wasn't all this different from the bill that had been negotiated a few weeks before. i wonder if this deal was ever as dead as it looked like a few days ago. >> you and i were talking when i was in paris and the climate accords were signed, there was this sense not everything we
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wanted but going to do great things and not a single one of the signatories met their goals, met what they said they would do. do you think that this could bring some optimism that other countries might look at what they need to do and do something? >> i think most of our peer countries are doing much more than us. it's more about the u.s. catching up and honoring our historical activities. all that stuff that we burned in the 20th century and 19th century, it still warming the planet. the u.s. has done more damage than any other country in the world. no matter what happens going forward, we will still be number one. so whatever we do going forward, we should be doing more. at least we're in the race for the first time. >> thank you for coming in. appreciate it. on a personal note, a brief tribute to my friend and colleague pete williams who ends
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nearly three decades of service to the network today. there was never a question he couldn't answer, a complex supreme court ruling he couldn't decipher or angle of an investigation, it seemed, where he didn't have a source. more than all that, he is just a great person, extraordinarily kind and generous and humble. thank you, pete, for everything you have been to us here and to our viewers everywhere. now, i need to head out to catch a flight and do some reporting that i'm working on but i leave you in the trusted hands of my colleague, yasmin vossoughian for the rest of the hour. hey there. >> hey, chris. i'll keep it short but he is going to be missed, pete. it was such an honor to work alongside you and what a beautiful tribute. i'm going to let you go but we're going to be watching for your reporting ahead. coming up, everybody, both pfizer and moderna saying they're going to roll out a new generation of covid booster shots. when they'll be ready and, more importantly, who is going to qualify for them? first, we're going to head to arizona, a state that helped pup
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and i thought, yeah, it works for me. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. all right, everybody. welcome back. it's election season as you well know the arizona republican primary is just four days away. some leading candidates are campaigning on election misinformation. a short time ago not one but two of the front-runners for the gop senate nomination, they slammed the results of the last presidential election saying they would have handled things very differently had they been in congress. trump-backed blake masters is still a very strong challenge from jim lehman, a solar power executive. whoever wins on tuesday will face off against incumbent mark kelly. i want to bring in vaughn
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hillyard and robert gibbs, form are white house press secretary and msnbc political analyst. vaughn, you had the opportunity to speak to two of the top senate candidates just a short time ago. i know they had a lot to say. walk us through some of the highlights. >> yeah, folks nationally may not know the names blake masters or jim lehman yet but millions have been spent here in the state of arizona behind their candidacies ahead of tuesday's primary here. ultimately the winner in this crowded senate primary field is going to face democratic incumbent mark kelly. and it was important to get both of these individuals on the record about if they had been in the u.s. senate on january 6, 2021, would they have objected to the 2020 presidential election results. this is what both of them told me. >> reporter: if had you been in the u.s. senate, would you have objected to the 2020 certification in. >> i think what hawley and i believe what cruz did was right.
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i think their constituent constituents had a lot of concerns. before certifying the election, you have to make sure it was legit. i think they were asking for time and that's what they objected to and it was a fine thing to do. >> we were extensive in that audit. and it's indeterminate how it should have turned out. we found disconnection of ballots. >> reporter: would you have objected? >> i absolutely would have objected. we have to find out what's going on. >> reporter: you see the likes of pennsylvania perhaps pull in favor of john federman. martha mcsally lost in 2018 and 2020. joe biden won by just over
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10,000 votes for the presidency here in 20. this has been a long-time conservative state. most folks you would talk to that work in politics would argue that that is exactly still the case here and that is why mark kelly is going to have a tough race on his hands. but both jim layman and blake masters who has the trump endorsement as well as $15 million of tech billionaire peter teal's money behind him, this is going to be a high stakes race here in arizona, whoever comes out on top on tuesday night. >> we're getting a sense of the atmosphere, hearing some of that sound there, talking specifically about kingmaker or not. you have blake masterson really kind of leap frogging here. he was polling just 9%. back in april. that same poll putting him at 25 and we know the president endorsed him in june. what does that tell you, the combination of the endorsement
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plus what we just heard that vaughn played for us? >> well, look, you can still see the heat is around election denial and with blake masters gaining, you can see it's about being close to donald trump. it wasn't unclear as to who was in the race. after the audit it was affirmed that joe biden won. he's trying not to be outdone by the trump endorsee.
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it was 51-49. this is the not, quite frankly, a state that has a lot of practice in being blue. it only recently has become purple. so it is going to be closely watched not just tuesday to see whether the trump acolyte in both the senate and gubernatorial race eventually become the gop nominees. we'll be watching this for the next hundred or so days right in through election night. >> we're seeing this as well as in arizona pushing about the big lie, talking about the big lie as part of their campaign stance. what about the voters, robert? i know you had a chance to speak with voters in general and how they feel about this, if this should be part of campaigning and heading in to the mid terms. what are you learning there? >> is that for me? >> that's for you, rob. what are you hearing from -- what do you think about with voters, robert?
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i'm wondering. we're hearing this from the candidates but i'm wondering in general if we're talking about voters, american voters, if they actually care about this, if they want to look in the past or to the future. >> well, i think there is still regardless of what you've seen around the january 6th commission and quite frankly what an audit in a place like arizona has shown, there's still a good chunk of the republican primary electorate particularly the base of the republican party, that believes something happened untoward in that election. it hasn't been proven, court cases have been lost up and down on this question, but there's still a lot of disinformation out there led by donald trump. so i think there's a lot of interest around this subject and it's why you hear these candidates even on the eve of these primaries continuing to talk about it. >> continuing to talk about it. vaughn hillyard, thank you. robert gibbs, thank you as well.
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all right. welcome back, everybody. new covid boosters, they are on the way, and administration officials confirming to nbc news the white house plans to offer new booster shots to all adults. the doses have been reform lated to perform better against the now-dominant and extremely contagious omicron subvarians ba.4 and 5. pfizer and moderna say they'll have the retooled boosters ready by the fall starring in september. i want to bring in msnbc medical contributor dr. patel, former president obama adviser. the question, if you are eligible now and have not gotten the booster, should you get one or wait it out so the booster you get in the fall possibly also includes the omicron variants? >> i'll make it short and simple. if you're eligible for the first or second booster, get them now.
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it is highly likely you will still be eligible to gets that booster, but protection today can help as we see numbers climbing and the country. >> that means if you're getting it now, you probably have to wait five or six months to gets your second booster for the omicron variant, is that accurate? >> not necessarily. there's no reason scientifically to have to wait that long. i think that question will be addressed by the fda and the cdc. >> got it. i also want to talk about the possibility of having to gets these boosters every single year. obviously, the flu vaccine, every year, september, kids have to get their flu vaccines, adults, as well, to prepare for coming year. are we looking at the same type of thing when it comes to covid boosters, once a year, multiple times a year or do we not have a sense of it yet? >> it's hard to have a sense of it, but having some regular needs for updated boosters is highly likely. look how fast we've seen these variants rise that are so different from the versions of
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covid we had, the virus we had a year ago. so that will dictate how much and how frequently we might need to update it. but i hope that the signs that this is falling into the pattern like the flu and other things that we see where it's seasonal, we can predict it a bit better and offer vaccines ahead of those seasons. >> i know moderna, fizer, they say they'll provide about 171 million of these new vaccine booster doses for the fall if they are, in fact, approved. that's not enough for everybody in this country as we well know. are you concerned about that? >> no, i'm not concerned. i think those are the initial agreements so we can make sure we have that initial supply especially in september when we know demand will be high, just like we saw with original vaccine rollout. they'll probably priority populations and just start, but like we did back in 2020, so i think you'll see some of those same things happen, but i'm not worried about the volume in this country. i'm more concerned there will be fewer american who is see the need to get it.
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i think we have a job to do between now and then to communicate the benefits. >> yeah. wondering if less americans will be getting it as we look ahead. dr. kavita patel, if you're eligible, gets your booster now. thank you as always. stay with me for another full hour of news including nbc's exclusive reporting on the doj and fears that resources are at a breaking point just as its investigation into the january 6th riot is, in fact, expanding. plus the house is set to vote on an assault weapons ban, its first vote on that issue since 1994. will they have the votes to pass it? that conversation coming up. we'll be right back. ack. new astepro allergy. no allergy spray is faster. with the speed of astepro, almost nothing can slow you down. because astepro starts working in 30 minutes, while other allergy sprays take hours.
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washington, new movement with the house getting ready to vote on an assault weapons ban today before lawmakers leave town for august break. when and how we expect that vote to go down. in the senate, all political eyes on one key democrat as the party races to advance a major surprise spending bill. you see her right there. where kyrsten sinema stands. and new reporting from "the washington post" on more missing text messages leading up to the attack on the capitol not from the secret service
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