hugs. be sure to follow us on twitter, tiktok, and more news is coming up right here on msnbc. right here on msnbc one by when they are being called to testify, and one by when they are ready to tell the truth. this is the mystery of the missing text messages deepens. the washington post is reporting that the dhs watchdog scrapped plans to recover secret service text from january six. what is going on here! plus, as donald trump weighs another presidential run,

they're growing silence has one's favorite network is moving on. is he already losing the fox news primary? and later, matt gates's bullying tactics backfired big-time. how is body shaming helping one teen abortion activist raised over 1 million dollars? my interview with her and much more is coming up. a good saturday morning to you. i am katie phang. we'll see, or want to. the good question this morning about whether speaker nancy pelosi will visit china on a trip to asia this weekend. china said it will take, quote, forceful measures if it happens. taiwan's self governed by china claims it is a part of its territory and promises to take it back by force if necessary. for more on all of this we are joined by nbc news correspondent allie raffa on capitol hill. >> katie, nancy pelosi saving

security concerns for why she could not confirm or deny whether she or a group of house lawmakers will visit taiwan during this multi day four of asia. military officials say that they are fearful that the trip to taiwan can further escalate tensions between the u.s. and china. we are already seeing things escalate. we saw chinese state media tweet on friday that the government of china has the right to shoes down pelosi's plane if necessary. chinese embassy officials are even calling a house lawmaker i'm pressuring them to get pelosi to call this trip off. despite all of these tensions, we have seen democrats and republicans here on capitol hill unites behind pelosi's trip. they say it shows a message of unity. it shows that you united states cannot be bullied. that is likely where that unity and. as we saw, in a vote last night, , house democrats passed a ban on assault weapons for the first time since 1994.

amid a surge of gun violence nationwide. that is likely where this full stop. this bill is likely doomed in the senate. president biden praised its passage urging senators to move quickly on it. in the 50/50 senate is likely to go nowhere [interpreter] because we saw back in june that the bipartisan group of senators, notably, left that key and on assault weapons out of their historic deal. so, democrats have vowed to push further for more gun reforms ever since then. republicans have really urged a symbol of, really, not being able to move any further as far as legislation. >> thank you to allie raffa in washington d.c.. now on to the devastating floods out of kentucky. take a look at this video. this is how the national guard has been rescuing people in the area over the last 36 hours. using both boats and helicopters to locate and say

people that are trapped in high waters. sadly, the death toll keeps growing in the state. it is up to at least 23 this morning with many more still unaccounted for. msnbc's maggie vest but is live for us in jackson, kentucky this morning. maggie, good morning. how have things changed on the ground in the last 24 hours or so? >> katie, you just had an ominous details that we have gotten over the last 24 hours. in short, people are grabbing their minds around, frankly, the misery that is overtaking this area. their home. they're just were a couple of days ago where they were inundated with these torrential rains. these are flash floods, and as you can see, they are still in the process of receiving. people hope that continues. we have more rain slated coming monday and tuesday. you can see several cars still trapped in the water here. they are still running through the statistics that speak to what you just highlighted. the rescuers are still going around the clock. first responders are completely

overwhelmed. close to 300 rescues as of yesterday by boat and by air. of course, we know that the death count here, as you said, just keep soaring from 16 yesterday, 2:23 overnight. the governor saying multiple of the victims are children. also confirming that as they go to search for more people as these missing person counts and reports keep coming in, again, first responders are having a really hard time getting to those who are stranded in these really rural areas. take a listen to part of what he said yesterday. >> everybody out there that is scared, that cannot get in touch with one of their relatives. cell phones are down. so many of these regions, i know how you feel. i could not get in touch with members of my family after the tornadoes. please, continue to hope and pray and we will try to connect as many people as possible. >> the governor is touring the

damage by air yesterday with the fema administrator. also he said cell phone coverage is down. power is out for 20,000 plus people and a lot of those people at this point, do not have running water. and once again, dry conditions to a low water to recede but we do have more rain on the way for monday and tuesday. that governor asked everyone's to make a safety plan because, at his words, we do not want round two of this. that is an ominous warning, of course. >>, thanks maggie, please stay safe and take care of yourself. now we move on to new jersey where donald trump was facing protest to of funded tournament at his golf course. families of 9/11 victims are tearfully speaking out about that decision. trump's comments cast doubt on saudi arabia and the attacks connection. we turn to liz mclaughlin in that town. >> good morning, katie.

this new golf series has suffered controversy. since it started last month financed nearly two billion reports so far from saudi arabia's southern wealth fund. some are calling that blood money. the country has a history of human rights abuses and then 2018 fbi concluded that the crown prince had authorized the murder of washington post journalist, jamal khashoggi. this year we join extra scrutiny because of the former president donald trump's westminster golf club, less than 50 miles from ground zero. as we mentioned, 15 of the 9/11 hijackers were from saudi arabia. osama bin laden boarded in the country. saudi nationals helped to fund the terrorist group al-qaeda. donald trump, yesterday, on the course defending his imports involvement saying that no one has gotten to the bottom of 9/11.

family members of victims of that horrible terrorist attacks are coming out against this and protesters with the group, 9/11 justice, are protesting the tournament this weekend. we spoke with them. here is what they had to say. >> how much money does it take to turn your back on your country, and on the american people. according to certain individuals, nicholson, koepka, to sambro, johnson, and trump's, the amount of money is just a few hundred million dollars. >> those pockets are deep, katie, they are spending top dollar to push players from the pga. justin johnson, excuse me, reported more than 100 million dollars for the signing contract. this is such the tournament for 1 million dollars. that is about 1.5 million more than the masters top prize. and additional 5 million could go to slip through the top

three teams. there will be another tournament at a trump golf course later this year. katie? >> thank you to liz in bedminster. coming up later i will speak with the son who lost his father on 9/11. he is outraged by trump's decision to host that tournament. that is a little later in the hour today. now we will move on to the widening january six investigations. as the justice department keeps asking questions the 16 committee is focusing in on trump's cabinet. multiple outlets reporting that steve newton has already been interviewed by the committee. former secretary of state, mike pompeo, is scheduled to meet with the committee in the coming days. nbc news has not independently confirmed those reports. former acting chief of staff, mulvaney, testified to the committee. he said he was asked about the text message he sent to rnc chairwoman, rhoda mcdaniel, in the days after the 2020 election. meanwhile, we have another

update from committee chair, benny thompson, on friday. on whether the committee can call mike pence or trump himself to testify. >> [inaudible] >> over on the justice department side, nbc news reporting that the doj has been asking questions about trump's actions leading up to january six. at this point they have not opened a criminal investigation of him. help me sort all of this out. all i'm glad to welcome former prosecutor and analyst, and friend, cynthia. cynthia, good morning. thank you for being here. what does it tell you that we are now seeing trump allies and former cabinet members, like steve, and mike pompeo,

reportedly engaging with the 16 committee without even having to be served with a subpoena? >> it tells me that the 16 committee is getting somewhere. they see it, they know it, and they would rather go voluntarily than the subpoena. obviously the committee has the momentum. what's fascinating about what is coming up this week is there is a whole collection of emails and lawyers who i cannot wait to hear from, who were hiding with they were doing from the white house lawyers. a lot of the lawyers involved in the electoral scheme, they are also out there sending emails back and forth in the 16 committee. they are finding out about them in the new york times is reporting about it. it is almost like there were two sets of lawyers working on the whole unless tour scheme. one set saying this is completely illegal. and the other side saying you, let's put a little smiley face and keep going.

it is fascinating how it is finally, finally starting to come out. >> it would not be the first time, cynthia, that there are two friends to something, right? i want you to help us understand the significance of the recent nbc news reporting that the doj did. asking about trump's actions, has it opened a criminal investigation of him yet. what does that mean, exactly? >> it is semantics. that is basically what it is. if the investigation is open, and then witnesses are being called and they are going to grande prairie, whether it is on the rubric of trump's admonition dictation, for purposes of the investigation it is just semantics. if ever they do shift and say, trump is a target of the investigation, that would be a big change. for now, let's have a hallelujah moment. when witnesses are going into

the grand jury. they are moving forward. i do feel sorry for them. it is overwhelming how many investigations they have to be doing at the same time. there is a reasonable concern that they need more people. not only do we have this investigation, but now, as we mentioned in the opening, we have the investigation into the disappearance of all the tax from the fiery and the inspector general. they are hiding them. that is going to be a whole other investigation. it will require more grand prix work and more lawyers. i feel sorry for the attorney general. it is just cascading. >> cynthia, let's talk about the missing text messages. from an investigative standpoint, and an evidentiary standpoint, if you cannot recover those text messages for any reason,. -- should the doj say come over

here, we will do it on our side? >> i'm with you, i think the doj, what they need to highlight for the viewers is, inside the department of homeland security's inspector general office there are two camps. there are the career people and there are the trump people. what we learned from the washington post reporting is, the korean people were trying to get the phones and get the information. faris team said, do not take the phone. >> this to that >> waukesha it looks like we lost in the. and we will make sure we get her back. we might actually have her now. cynthia, are you back? >> i am back, i do not know when you lost me. let me say one more thing that is important for viewers. that is there are obviously two camps within that organization. one of the career people who are trying to get the phones

back, where trading memos, let's get the phones back and get the information, and to fareed's team is saying no, do not take the phone. that clash is perfect for a grand jury investigation. let's find out who is stopping getting the information, and that referee requires them to open up a separate investigation into this missing text evidence. >> i do not know about you cynthia but that fiery guy still being here kind of makes me scratch my head and wonder what you are doing. >> you can't get rid of him. >> that is part of the investigating general law. obviously there is a huge problem as the investigator has to find 20 more lawyers. >> cynthia, thank you for being here this morning. we appreciate your insight and analysis, as always. i'm going to get into hall all of what we talked about with

cynthia, how it is all going down with republican photos with my panel, next. last, it has been a while since donald trump has been on the fox news airwaves. more than 100 days, actually. mid turn campaigning wraps up and the empire begins to turn on him. how is scared of losing airtime to his potential rivals? a little later in the hour, his school would not let him skip anymore grades. his parents decided to home school him. next thing he knew he is graduating from college, 15 years old. i will speak with boy genius, about his next steps. i know i am not alone saying we could all use a little bit of good news right now. stay with us.

so to help you remember that liberty mutual customizes your home insurance, here's a pool party. look what i brought! liberty mutual! they customize your home insurance... so you only pay for what you need! ♪young people having a good time with insurance.♪

♪young people.♪ ♪good times.♪ ♪insurance!♪ only pay for what you need. ♪liberty liberty. liberty. liberty.♪ you're pretty particular about keeping a healthy body. what goes on it. usually. and in it. mostly. here to meet those high standards is the walgreens health and wellness brand. over 2000 high quality products. rigorously tested by us. real world tested by you. and particularly kind... to your wallet. dad! a dinosaur! it's just a movie. and particularly kind... no dad, a real dinosaur! show doorbell camera. the new xfinity video doorbell works with your xfinity home system for real time alerts no matter

what's at the door. get off the car... it's a lease! jurassic world dominion, available now on xfinity. rule your home security with xfinity home. in order for small businesses to thrive, they need to be smart. efficient. agile. and that's never been more important than it is right now. so for a limited time, comcast business is introducing small business savings. call now to get powerful internet for just 39 dollars a month. with no contract. and a money back guarantee. all on the largest, fastest reliable network. from the company that powers more businesses than anyone else. call and start saving today. after a televised hearings that comcast business. powering possibilities.

looks like the january six investigation is finally breaking through with gop voters. political rights quote, an

emerging consensus is forming in political party some girls, including trump's with the rank and file which is tiring of the nonstop series of revelations about trump. in fact, a new york times siena college poll finds that while 75% of primary voters say donald trump was just exercising his right to contest the election, nearly one in five safety threat and american democracy. that same poll shows that nearly half of republicans now want someone other than donald trump for president, in 2024. with florida governor ron desantis posing the biggest threat. of course, before we even get to 2024 voters have to go to the polls this november. many trump endorsed and aligned candidates are on the ballot from coast to coast. joining me now from her insight in the analysis is our congressional voter and msnbc political analyst and democratic pollster fernand amandi. good morning gentlemen. fernand, i will start with you.

as a pollster you are the numbers guy. so, what do you make of the latest. should trump be worried, especially this far out from 2024? >> you know, katie, you have to look at it from three different lenses. from a political as if i am not so sure trump still needs to be that worried. the polls show that at least within the republican primary vote he still has his very strong face. the vast majority of republican voters continue to believe the big lie that the election was stolen and denied donald trump. however, from a legal lens, does trump have reason to be worried? the answer, i think, is yes. it is precisely because of the work these committee hearings have done. katie, you may recall on this program we preview the impact on what these hearings would be before they started. i said, they are going to be the most important hearings in american history. i think they have not only lived up to that billing, i think they have serbia passed

that building. part of the reason is, we are seeing in realtime that evidence is being uncovered as these hearings unfold. that is also acting as resuscitation that you could hold to the justice department investigation. the new york times even reported this week that and michelle donald trump was not the focus of merrick garland's investigation. i think that has changed now, precisely, because of the january 6th hearings. is there legal fallout for trump? absolutely. is there political fallout with his republican base note? that still remains to be seen. >> cell, you go, a potential achilles heel for donald trump. these committee hearings, you have been following them extraordinarily closely. what parts of them have noticed registered with your readers, and followers? one additional revelations would the committee provide in hearings to come? >> the one reoccurring feature that keeps coming up is the

lack of evidence, and missing evidence, in respect to january six. and all sorts of different quarters. we first learned that there was evidence missing back in february when the secretary got the presidential corners and presidential diaries from the national archives. they presented this in one of their final hearing saying look, all of this evidence is somehow gone. there is no record of what trump was doing that day. they used that to make the case that trump failed to do anything, and effectively obstructed the certification on january six. more recently, we also see secret service text messages. the more we look at best the more the committee looks this. there is a pattern of evidence destruction. or evidence retention. this is problematic. the committee has honed in on this as the line of inquiry. the fact that secret service text or missing, the fact that chad wolf and could chevy have talked about this, and their

stuff is missing. and we don't have any of the presidential logs from january six. the committee seized this and we smell a rat. >> as i tweeted, there are no coincidences. try to go? fernand, the rolling stones reporting that trump is obsessing over the fact that fox news is covering him versus 's potential rivals for the gop nomination in 2024. it is top of mind. he is very concerned that he is losing the so-called, fox news primary. when trump smoke before cameras in d.c. this week fox news did not air. it however, the network did show a speech by mike pence for roughly 17 minutes. fernand, how big of a deal with it would be if they turn their back on donald trump? >> it would certainly be a big deal, katie. i think, again, the question remains, donald trump is the head of the republican party. this is donald trump's republican party. so, the sun is him. the party revolves around it. fox news has tried this before.

they have had stages in the past where they have tried to backpedal their coverage of trump. inevitably, it is the fox news viewers who have demanded the coverage be re-tuned itself to trump. so, if that phenomenon happens again where trump can basically say, and declare war or many more, or a temporary war, on fox news, and forces the coverage back, i think it will be all right. until though, however, we see him drop precipitously in these republican presidential standings for 2024, i am not sure trump still has to worry about this. trump has a total name identification. every republican presidential primary voter in america knows who donald trump is. we had their opinions about him. it remains to be seen if fox turned the tide, and goes back to covering trump. or if this blackout causes them to lose out. i still think they will come back to trump and it is all said and done. >> you go, quickly before had to let you guys go. it seems like every day, or

every other day, there is a new revelation about missing tax or record, people, or witnesses. what do you now with your so say about whether or not the timing of this january six investigation is going to be done in terms of wrapping it up in a timely fashion? we know that trump had been flirting with a possible announcement of a 2024 run before the november midterms. do you know anything about what is going on with the further hearings and the timing of the investigation that is happening by the 16 committee? >> i checked in with a couple of my associates and sources. it feels like this investigation could go all the way up until the midterm. it could even bump into the midterms. that is because the investigation is gaining new steam. i think some of them august had members on the committee who are the most busy in the work period for the committee and investigation yet. it is really significant because we have already been up this for 11 months. this might be the busiest month

yet. it is really telling about how the investigation is coming along. the one thing that was made to me clear was that if trump's allies had been stonewalling at the very start of this investigation -- and remember, it took three or four months for them to comply with the subpoenas. you may already be done with the investigation. the bumps into the midterms trump asked himself to blame. >> i think there is more just asked that would be blaming him, if you blame some self. hugo and fernand, thank you guys so much for being here. we appreciate it. a quick programming note. monday, steve kornacki returns to the house and governor races, this mid term season. what each party needs to do to win, and how the midterms could affect the next presidential election. much decision 2022 at 10 pm eastern only on msnbc. coming up, defending his decision to host a saudi funded golf tournament and new jersey.

donald trump offered up a despicable attempt to revive history. >> nobody has gotten to the bottom of 9/11, unfortunately. >> surely trump knows quite a bit about ties between saudi nationals and the 9/11 attacks. was the allure of money and revenge too much to pass up on? that is next. ♪ i'm way ahead of schedule with my trusty team ♪ ♪ there's heather on the hedges ♪ ♪ and kenny on the koi ♪ ♪ and your truck's been demolished by the peterson boy ♪ ♪ yes -- ♪ wait, what was that? timber... [ sighs heavily ] when owning a small business gets real, progressive helps protect what you've built with affordable coverage. one prilosec otc in the morning blocks excess acid production for a full 24 hours. unlike pepcid, which stops working after 9.

24 hour protection. prilosec otc one pill, 24 hours, zero heartburn. ♪♪ it's the all-new subway series menu. twelve irresistible new subs. the most epic sandwich roster ever created. ♪♪ it's subway's biggest refresh yet! we got the house! ♪♪ you did! pods handles the driving. pack at your pace. store your things until you're ready. then we deliver to your new home - across town or across the country. pods, your personal moving and storage team. if maga republicans get their way, abortion will be banned nationwide, with no exceptions. medicare and social security will end in five years, with no replacement. elections will be decided by politicians, with no regard for your vote. if maga republicans get back in power, your rights, benefits and freedoms will be in danger. democrats will protect your rights. and the only way to stop

maga republicans is to vote for democrats. ff pac is responsible for the content of this ad. i would say that to me an important aspect is too... meta portal with smart sound. helps reduce your background noise. bring that sense of calm, really... so you come through, loud and clear. meta portal. the smart video calling device that makes work from home work for you.

life... doesn't stop for diabetes. be ready for every moment, with glucerna. it's the number one doctor recommended brand that is scientifically designed to help manage your blood sugar.

live every moment. glucerna. ever notice how stiff clothes live every moment. can feel rough on your skin? for softer clothes that are gentle on your skin, try downy free & gentle downy will soften your clothes without dyes or perfumes. the towel washed with downy is softer, and gentler on your skin. try downy free & gentle. as we talk about at the top of the show, this weekend just 50 miles from around zero, donald trump is hosting a golf tournament funded by the saudis. this is not a golf course in new jersey. there is one group of people who is not letting her do so quietly. the group 9/11 justice protested the of. it loved ones of those who died in the september 11th attacks have long believed saudi leaders bear responsibility for the events of that day. the saudi government has denied

any involvement. the 9/11 commission found that saudi nationals paid key roles in finding al-qaeda. someone else is also casting doubt on the saudi connection. former president donald trump. >> nobody has gotten to the bottom of 9/11, unfortunately. they should have as to the maniacs who did that horrible thing to our city, to our country to, the world. no one has really been there. >> as you can imagine, that comments ignited fierce outrage. especially among these families of 9/11 victims. especially since this is what trump said back in 2016. >> who can have the world trade center? it was not the iraqis, it was saudis. take a look at saudi arabia. open the documents. we want to get bush or someone to have the documents opened. frankly, if you open the documents i think you can see that it was saudi arabia. >> that is his own mouth, no less. was the allure of all that saudi cash just too much for

trump to pass up on? joining me this morning is author and advocate, matthew bocce. matthew lost his dad jon on 9/11. john had an office on the 105th floor. matthew was pulled of cost to wait for news of his dad when he was just nine years old. he has written a book about his experiences since then, and the trauma he has had to overcome one nehemia day at a time. it is called sway and is available now. matthew, thank you so much for joining me this morning it is an honor to have you here. i had to ask what your gut reaction was when you heard the former president of the united states saying that no one knows who is responsible for the attack that killed your father and thousands of other americans. >> it is an outrageous remark. he obviously, as we saw on the clips, knows that saudis were responsible and funded the attacks? for him to make such an

outlandish statement right before the event is about to kick off, it was extremely hurtful for families like my own. >> the fact that this event is taking place so close to ground zero, for 9/11, is there more that is plans to be done by the families, like you, and others, other than the protests that are happening out in bedminster? >> i think that publicly voicing our opinions and feelings is what we are trying to do. we are not going to make this ridiculous publicity stunt for us. we want people to know our feelings regarding this matter. the fact that this is being held in such close proximity to where my father and 750 plus other families lost someone, it is one aspect of this event that is extremely hurtful. i think it is really pouring salt on the wound.

his course is 50 miles from ground zero. anyone who grew up in this area, or around this area during 9/11, they know how sacred it is. and so, i think that is another reason that this is becoming a little bit more of a challenging situation for us to deal with. our motions are being ignited as we are approaching the anniversary of 9/11. >> trump decided to host this event after the pga pulled out of the major tournament there. after january six. do you believe donald trump is prioritizing cash and revenge over 9/11 victims and the truth would happen that day? >> i think there's gonna be some truth in that statement. i also think that with his major maybe he's being a little vindictive and trying to keep his name in the spotlight. i mean, money could be the first of this. it could be associated with all of this for him. i think, more than anything, he

is trying to be spiteful due to his course being removed from the pga as a host. >> so, matthew, you talk about the fact that this anniversary is going to be coming up. did you ever think that in light of all the trauma that you sustained the other families as well, and the world and america having to watch this happen, did you ever think you would have to have this conversation with someone like me? but someone like a president of the united states, who we heard from his own mouth in 2016, said it was the saudis, that he would actually go on television and make the type of statements he was making? >> i never envisioned to be in this position, no. the reality is, as much as his statements are completely ridiculous, and outrageous, we are obviously all her by them. we are continuing to hold each presidential administration accountable since 9/11.

each administration has failed on their promises to help us bring the saudis to justice. changes have been and are starting to be implemented. biden did hold his promise to ask. there is still more that needs to be done. at the end of the day, as much as we are hurt by these statements on national television, it is downplaying the entire situation for what it is worth. we are going to continue to fight. we will urge each new presidential administration is to help us in our pursuit of justice. >> matthew bocchi, i want to say so much thank you for being here. accountability is key to somebody just said. whether you are public administration or democratic or republican. you have to have accountability. i appreciate you shining light on what is going on. >> thanks for having me. >> thank you for being here. i will introduce you to olivia

who liana coming up. a teen activist who turned a public insults by congressman matt gates into more than $1 million for abortion funds. my conversation with her next. and tears in the stomach or intestines occurred. people 50 and older... with at least 1 heart disease risk factor have higher risks. don't take if allergic to rinvoq... as serious reactions can occur. tell your doctor if you are or may become pregnant.

put uc in check and keep it there, with rinvoq. ask your gastroenterologist about rinvoq. and learn how abbvie could help you save. most bladder leak pads were similar. until always discreet invented a pad that protects differently.

with two rapiddry layers. for strong protection, that's always discreet. question your protection. i asked her what motivated her try always discreet.

olivia julianna to take a stand. >> i feel like i have responsibility as a young

person in politics to show my young followers that these kinds of attacks from republican politicians will not be tolerated. they should be put in their place when they say things that are self blatantly sexist and massage mystic. so, i decided that as the gen z technology savvy person that i am that i would fire back. i do not regret it one bit. i meant every word that i said. i am proud of what i have been able to do so far. >> clearly, matt gaetz tried to breed the wrong person, olivia. but if he had targeted someone not as emotionally strong as you? someone not as sure of themselves as you are? it is a very real concept that a member of congress is attacking somebody. >> yes, absolutely. i have publicly stated that throughout my entire life i have struggled with eating disorders, and body image issues. even in part being hospitalized for it last year. luckily, i have been able to do the mental and emotional work

to get to a place where i am sure of myself. but, if he gaetz had gone after someone who was not as resilience it could have been catastrophic for the mental health. this hatred coming from a sitting congressman cannot be understated. it could have damaged someone's livelihood. it could have catastrophically damaged their mental health. they are very quality of life even. it cannot be understated that this was extremely anemic and appropriate, which does not surprise me. >> same here, you have called his comments outright misogyny and fatphobia. we reached out to the congressman's team about those body shaming claims. this is what we got back from gaetz spokesperson. congressman gates never mentioned the adult weight. leftist media did. >> what do you think about that official response from matt gaetz office? >> i think it is quite telling that the office tried to keep the word teenager out of the

headlines. they said that matt gaetz is trending together and last time it did not end so well for him. >> olivia, this is not your first rodeo. she gaetz is not the first politician to try and shut you up. greg abbott, glenn paxton, they are all on your wall of shame. you are just 19 years old. how has your age impacted, do you think, how these politicians reacted to you? >> i think my age is a gift. i am so young. a lot of these politicians think that i am young, dumb, naive, or ignorant. the reality is, i am the political strategist for one of the top, and largest use led nonprofits in the country. gen z for change. we have had multiple success stories and mobilizing young voters across the country. we are working alongside democratic candidates from across the country. by underestimating me, and thinking that i will not be able to fire back as hard as i

proved that i can, they are truly gifting me a national platform on a silver platter. so, honestly, i would like to thank them for consistently undermining me and undermining gen z. at the end of the day, we are the ones who usually when these battles. >> thanks to olivia julianna. an extra honor for a 19 year old heroin. she won the week and joy reid's show last night, beating out other contenders including craters of those josh hawley memes, and beyoncé who released her new album yesterday. congrats to olivia for breaking in the raid outs highest honor. coming up, some more good news this morning. a 15 year old makes history becoming the youngest graduate at one texas college. it is inspiring stories after the break. after our show, michael steele fills him for velshi and talks to congressman, adam kinzinger. one of two republicans on the 16 committee. what is next for the

investigation? that is at 8 am eastern, right here on msnbc. (brad) how does apartments-dot-com create the most eye-tingling virtual tours around? watch this: activate shrink suit. (kevin) wait. ah, oh! (brad) kevin? (kevin) hello? (brad) let's start by getting that woodgrain. (kevin) uhh, capturing... (brad) oooh, nice. oh... (kevin) nice kitty! (brad) kevin? kevin? this one is also pet-friendly.

apartments-dot-com. the place to find a place. (purrs.) (man) [whispering] what's going on? (burke) it's a farmers policy perk. get farmers and you could save money by doing nothing. just be claim-free on your home insurance for three years. (man) that's really something. (burke) get a whole lot of something with farmers policy perks. (dad) bravo! (mom) that's our son! (burke) we should. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪

you're pretty particular about keeping a healthy body. what goes on it. usually. and in it. mostly. here to meet those high standards is the walgreens health and wellness brand. over 2000 high quality products. rigorously tested by us. real world tested by you. and particularly kind... to your wallet. ♪♪ my relationship with my credit cards wasn't good. i got into debt in college and, no matter how much i paid, it followed me everywhere. between the high interest, the fees... i felt trapped. debt, debt, debt. so i broke up with my credit card debt and consolidated it into a low-rate personal loan from sofi. i finally feel like a grown-up. break up with bad credit card debt. get a personal loan with no fees, low fixed rates, and borrow up to $100k. go to sofi.com to view your rate.

sofi. get your money right. ♪♪ ♪♪ sofi. get your money right. add downy to your wash for all the freshness and softness of home. even when you're not at home. feel the difference with downy. all right, i promise to i would

bring you some good news at the end of today's show. let me introduce you to someone who is giving all of us a little help for the future, this morning. nehemia jen now is like any other kid, except for, you know, learning to read as to, solving algebra problems at five, and picking up the piano by ear without any formal training. if those accomplishments were not enough to brag about, he is about to learn his bachelors degree and health sciences at the age of 15. nehemia he's set to become the youngest graduate at sam houston state university, in texas. he will get his degree in august. no rest for the weary. he is already ready to start studying for the m cat.

it is easy to get lost in the doomscroll that is today's news cycle. my next guest is living proof of an incredibly bright future. i am so happy to be joined by nehemia and his father raphael. gentlemen, good morning. nehemia it's, colleges not usually on the radar if you are 15 years old. what was it like to be the youngest guy there? what was your college experience? was it everything you thought it could be? that you hoped it would be? >> it was. it was very enjoyable. i do not know if i could say it was a different experience because i have never experienced actual school. i have been home schooled for pretty much all of my life, until i got to college. getting the chance to go to a college for the first time really was an experience,, being in a school. it was great. >> you are not even old enough to drive.

you are graduating from college. do you ever stop and think, okay, this is kind of cool? this is a little different? do you ever suffer something what is going on? >> surprisingly, no. not really. my focus has been so much on my course work that i do not spend a lot of time thinking about, wow, i'm 15 and i got to graduate from sam houston. >> rafael, i mentioned in the intro how obvious it was that he was gifted early on. you home schooled him, as you said. he's got a front row seat. talk about what it is like to parent someone as exceptional as your son, nehemiah. >> first off. it was not just a solo project. my wife had a huge hand in it due to the fact that i am military. during those and national years he was home schooled and it was mom and grandma who did the

real work, as far as learning abc's and basic math. it was not until i became a major part of the home school it's variance a little later. even then, the times that i was home, he was always above and beyond what we could imagine. someone his age doing. he was always very articulate. reading at the age of two, we constantly had to keep pucks in front of him. we had to keep information in front of him. the more information we kept in front of him we noticed that the last mischevious he could be. if we were not challenging his mind, then he would go find stuff to challenge his mind. sometimes that came with taking part in remote control pars, or

radios, or whatever he could get his hands on. we were like, we have to keep this young guy busy. if not, he is going to take everything apart in the house. >> and you go to nehemiah, quickly before abdullah you got, you are an inspiration to a lot of people. young or old. i really want to ask you, what advice to have four young people that we could listen to you right now about having the drive to accomplish everything they want to dream to do? >> if you are already highly motivated, you know, to merck toward your goals, do not be afraid to ask for help. scott was a big issue i had starting out. i wanted so much to be able to get things great on my own. i forgot the important part of learning is asking for help to get and understanding. do not be afraid to do that. >> nehemiah, coming out with me. come to the show. it sounds like you could get

advice to me and to america. nehemiah and raphael juniel, i'm glad you recognize the contributions of your wife and grandmother. i appreciate that too. thank you gentlemen for being here this morning. thank you for the good news. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> we will be right back. that's why i use the freestyle libre 2 system. with a painless, one-second scan i know my glucose numbers without fingersticks. now i'm managing my diabetes better and i've lowered my a1c from 8.2 to 6.7. take the mystery out of managing your diabetes and lower your a1c. now you know. try it for free at freestylelibre.us ♪ but i like it, i love it, ♪ ♪ i want some more of it ♪ ♪ i try so hard, i can't rise above it ♪ ♪ i don't know what it is 'bout that little ♪ get a dozen shrimp for only one dollar

with any steak entrée. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood. godaddy payments offers fast and secure payments for customers at the lowest transaction fees. so you can keep more of the money you make and continue to grow your business. if you've got it, we've got you. start today at godaddy.com/payments wanna help kids get their homework done? well, an internet connection's a good start. but kids also need computers. and sometimes the hardest thing about homework is finding a place to do it. so why not hook community centers up with wifi?

for kids like us, and all the amazing things we're gonna learn. through projectup, comcast is committing $1 billion so millions more students can continue to get the tools they need to build a future of unlimited possibilities. in order for small businesses to thrive, they need to be smart. efficient. agile. and that's never been more important than it is right now. so for a limited time, comcast business is introducing small business savings. call now to get powerful internet for just 39 dollars a month. with no contract. and a money back guarantee. all on the largest, fastest reliable network. from the company that powers more businesses than anyone else. call and start saving today. that does it for us. comcast business. powering possibilities. tune in tomorrow for our special our. 100 days to the midterm.

former dnc chairman howard dean will join me. we will dive into what is driving voters to the polls, and whether democrats can defy history and avoid november problems. that is tomorrow on msnbc. michael steele is in for velshi, next. >> today on velshi, congressman adam kinzinger is one of two republicans on the january six committee. he will join the show to talk about a flood of new witnesses who started talking. plus, olivia troye, former aide to mike pence will be here to weigh in on the political rivalry growing up between pence and trump. if you stick around, we will hear from ali velshi himself, but the special saturday addition of the velshi banned book club. velshi starts. now.