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again. this has to be pursued. >> the former president is dropping new hints about its potential 2024 white house bid. donald trump giving a strongest indication yet that he will get in the race. >> it's very hard for me not to run to be honest. and the polls indicate that from the republican standpoint, it would be easy, and i think i was up 11 points against biden the other day, i don't think he's gonna run. i will make a decision fairly soon. i must tell you, i think i can say, this in my mind i've already made the decision. >> questions and concerns this week about house speaker nancy pelosi if she will stop in taiwan during her visit to asia this weekend. -- china said the visit by pelosi will have quote consequences. -- on capitol hill, democrats in both chambers working to advance major pieces of legislation. the house narrowly passing a ballot on assault weapons for the first time since 1994.

but it faces an uphill battle in the evenly divided senate. democrats in the upper chamber are working to pass the sweeping chanting bill, with key climate, health, and tax provisions. -- urging his colleagues to prove that bill before the senate august recess. -- joe manchin is given support to that package really help to negotiate. democrats are still waiting word on whether arizona -- kyrsten sinema will back. at -- two >> there's a lot in the bill. alex. the president is very supportive of seeing this inflation reduction at come together. the white house very excited about the fact that this is something they can close out the week here with, after a very tumultuous week when it comes to looking at the economy. if we take a look at what this legislation includes, it is going to involve clean energy investments, tax credits that,

reducing health care, cost also planning on reducing the deficit by 300 billion dollars, a huge chunk there. the white house saying that this is something back in and reduce inflation. -- the federal reserve raising interest rates yet again this week. this is something the white house is celebrating. the president acknowledging in remarks on thursday that while what is included isn't similar to the build back better bill, it doesn't include everything. -- if the president plans on adding more to the list, down the, road or how this will affect his plans going forward, if it's something that needs to just get past now and they work on more later. here's what the press secretary told that reporter. >> this choice is not between this and a better deal. it's between this we are walking away about things that we really care about when it

comes to democrats, issues that we really care about. this is a big deal. this is an historic piece of legislation. to your point, it is the only legislation out there in congress that is going to fight inflation. so, we need to move forward to get this done. >> the president also sends a message to congress in his remarks saying that he encourages them to pass the legislation. the senate looking to bring this up as early as next week. if they do it as part of reconciliation, it can bypass that filibuster. that means they need all 50 democrats to be involved. they need to get kristen sinema on their side. and all 50 democrats need to be there in person to vote. that could be complicated by the fact that there were some covid cases in the senate last week. this also comes, we just learned the president was traveling to michigan on tuesday designed a chips act and a law. a lot of legislative victories for the white house this week alex. >> house speaker nancy pelosi

going on that trip to asia, despite some pushback from china about any possible stops she might make in taiwan. what more can you tell us about that? >> that's the pelosi's leading a congressional delegation on a trip to asia. we know she's going to, malaysia, or japan for example, but source familiar with the itinerary cell tells nbc that the taiwan stop is still listed as tentative. we still don't know for sure whether she will stop being in taiwan to express support for the country as we have seen percolating this week. the white house saying they warn any congressional delegations of security risk going 20 countries like this. that is something definitely on the minds right now is president chinese president xi had a diligently warned president biden of any external interference on a phone call they had on thursday. the chinese readout saying that the president chinese president told president biden those who play with fire will perish by

it. a very firm warning to nancy pelosi on this trip today. we also learned on this trip today the chinese military -- off the coast of china to visit taiwan. so they are clearly monitoring whether the speaker of the house will be visiting as well. >> thank you for the candor there on that more a bear. joining me now is california congressman -- i'm going to ask you sir as i welcome you about speaker pelosi's trip in just a moment. but first, how significant an impact to the bill hat on americans? are you confident that this bill is going to get to the presidents desk? >> this will get done, absolutely it, has to get done. this is an extraordinary piece of legislation for every american. we are talking about prescription drugs, finally being negotiated for medicare.

if you are senior, this is a big one. also included in that is a lie down of your co-pays. just in terms of that alone, and for those people who are not yet seniors, there is a very significant increase up [inaudible] of a program we started in the american rescue plan were 20 million americans recovered under the medicaid -- if you want clean air, if you want to deal with the reduction of greenhouse gases, that's in this bill. it's the largest ever climate action anywhere in the world. it is all there. if you are worried about corporations not paying taxes, then you love this bill because there is a minimum 15% tax on every large corporation. non mom and pop. not on the small corporations. but those corporations that have been benefiting from the greatest economy in the world. and from all of the american

protections, but of paid nothing, they're gonna get a chance to participate in supporting the american government and the american people. >> you're referring to those corporations that have billion dollar incomes every year. let me ask you about house speaker pelosi. she's got this delegation she's leading to asia. it remains unclear if she will still stop in taiwan during her trip. but last week president biden told reporters that the military thinks it is not a good idea right now. this week we heard from defense secretary lloyd austin on the prospect of this trip. >> what i will say is, i remain concerned, you heard me say this before, about the aggressive this of the prc and the kinds of things that we have been seeing in the region lately. i've spoken personally with the speaker. i talked to her on a fairly routine basis. and provide her my assessment of the security situation.

>> how about your assessment? should speaker pelosi visits taiwan while she's visiting the region? >> -- yes, she should. it's a very clear unequivocal statement that america is supporting taiwan. we want china to understand that the decision about taiwan's future is the taiwanese. they're not gonna be pushed around. they're gonna have to make their own decisions. yes, i think the speaker should go. i don't think any of us who are familiar and i've worked with nancy pelosi over the years knows that nobody's gonna tell or what to do. she will make a decision based upon her best judgments. >> taiwan as you know sir was among the topics that were discussed in a call between president biden and chinese leader xi jinping on thursday. in a tiny summary of that call said quote those who play with fire will perish by it. it is hoped that the u.s. will be clear eyed about this. what is that? do you see that is a threat?

a kind of consequences could be a risk from this trip? how do you weigh the benefits of this? does it outweigh the risk? >> well, ultimately, that will be a decision that the speaker will make. but from my take on, it it's important to tell china clearly that an invasion of taiwan, or a military action against taiwan, whether it is precipitated by the speaker's visit or any other thing, is not in china's interest. we are doing far more important things in supporting taiwan than the speaker's visit. we're providing very substantial military equipment, [inaudible] up so that taiwan can defend itself. let me make it very clear. the decision about the future of taiwan is about the taiwanese people. we saw what happened in hong kong. years ago,, almost two decades ago china said there will be

two policies for hong kong. well, it turns out that there's one policy for hong kong, now and that is domination, total subjugation for the hong kong people. i'm absolutely sure that the taiwanese do not want to find themselves in a similar situation. so we only need to look at hong kong to understand what's is perhaps in if united states and other allies in the pacific simply say, oh well, it's not our concern. well it is our concern. and we continue to support taiwan. >> let me ask you given your position on year house armed services committee, that does a group of lawmakers pressuring the pentagon's to fix the recruitment crisis that threatens to leave the military well short of its fiscal goals for this year. -- marine corps, air force, space force, those three are all at 100 percent. however, the army stands at 66%,

the navy at 89%. how much does this concern you? how could it affect readiness in the future? is there any way to fix it? >> it is a major concern. i am the chairman of the readiness committee. subcommittee of the house armed services committee. it is a major problem. up the army is 28,000 soldiers short of what they believe they need and what they should have. this problem is an economic problem for americans. the economy is actually quite robust. jobs are readily available for young men, young women, and older people all across the nation. in that time, men and women do tend to stake out the military there is another serious problem that we spent three hours on yesterday in a subcommittee chaired by jackie speier and myself dealing with

the abortion issues. it turns out that many of our major military bases are in states where abortion is -limited and where it is illegal and criminal to assist a young woman, or an older woman, in obtaining an abortion. this is a major problem and will only make the recruiting issues much more difficult. as it turns, out this is texas. the other 28 states of that are going all in. going all in that is an extraordinary link in those topics to this issue. i hadn't thought about it that way. thank you for bringing it up, and all the rest of the points we just discussed. congressman john garamendi, good to see you. let's go back to the breaking news on those floods. the devastating ones in kentucky, and then knew where this hour of at least 25 confirmed dead, as we bring you video of how the national guard has been rescuing people over the last 36 hours or so. they have been using boats, helicopters as well, to try to

find those people trapped in the high waters. officials say it could take weeks to find all the victims. more heavy rain is also possible in this region three out this weekend. so let's go to nbc's maggie bass, but who's in jackson kentucky for us. let's talk about the recovery efforts where you are when it's that looks like some swollen river behind you. >> yeah, alex, exactly. a lot of the bodies of water look exactly like this, and they are really flowing steadily as you can see. so the person gets and, there it could be really dire really quickly. and as you showed the video of the tireless recovery and rescue efforts going on here at the hands of the national guard, members from multiple states, tennessee, west virginia, and kentucky, each carrying out dozens in kentucky's case, hundreds of hundred rescues. as you said by both, by air, they're also using drones. they're also leaving volunteers are showing up their own boats, their own full wheelers and drones, knowing that this area's topography and geography makes it so difficult. because it is so rural, and

people are so far from each other so they're having to go from one disaster to the next, prop into the next to see if anyone needs rescue there. because as you, said the death count keeps rising at 25, expected to rise more. the governor confirming in those 25 there are four children that we know of at this point. not releasing names right now, more information is coming in by the minute. but back to those recovery efforts. the summit will play a part about the governor said at the press conference about an hour ago. speaking to the work that's being done here on the ground. take a listen. >> we are in search and rescue mode. again, that count is going to continue to go up, and we don't lose as many people in flooding. this is a real tough one. there are a number of rescues going on, oh. our kentucky national guard and others are doing incredible

work, and we are grateful. kentucky national guard has rescued 404 individuals by aircraft. >> the governor then added also tennessee national guard has rescued more than 200 people, aaron, by boat. and west virginia rescuing dozens. so, again just tireless efforts here from multiple states, multiple national guard members, the units are showing up to help with this effort. it is complicated by the fact that thousands here still don't have electricity, still don't have running water. and alex, as you said, more rain in the forecast. possibly starting as soon as tomorrow, continuing into next week which is the last thing people here need. >> absolutely, adding insult to injury, thank you so much maggie both spot. some new outrage and precious test over that tournament a trump golf course, especially as what the former president has said. fears of recession, it is all over the papers. many indicators across the economy is not that bad yet. but could fear actually drive

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today at the live golf tournament being held at donald trump's golf troubles club in new jersey. survivors of 9/11 attacks and other families are furious that donald trump for hosting the event just 15 miles from ground zero. i spoke last hour with tommy terry strada, whose husband tom was killed in the 9/11 attacks. >> any previous claim that the united states government has made that they weren't involved, we have evidence now that that is absolutely not true. the kingdom was involved in september 11th, the kingdom can't tonight. for trump to be sitting there at a golf course, calling them good people? no. the maniacs we did it on the maniacs that he is invited into this country to host live golf. >> abc's lagos flynn is

following the controversy for. us so, liz, what are you hearing for the protesters? >> it is just salt in the wounds, alex, of these victims families. who have already been through so much, and say just for this to be in their backyard, is just really soul crushing. and to be on a former president's golf course, donald trump, with the presidential seal in blaze and on his golf cart, and hosting this tournament. they say it is taking blood money. this is completely bankrolled by saudi arabia, and there's about two billion dollars already invested in this live tournament. let's listen to what one of those protesters have to say. >> how much money does it take to turn your back on your country? on the american people? well, according to certain individuals such as film mickelson, brooks kemp gonna, rising to shame vote, nelson johnson, and donald trump, that amount of money is just a few

hundred million dollars. >> and those pockets are deep. the money is not an exaggeration there, and players getting pushback to. the pga already signaled about a month ago, a couple months ago, that any of its players that went on to play in this live series, they would take action against them, and have. so it is leaving the pga, for sure. can still play in the masters, but leaving pga. so some of the big names have been taken that on. but phil nicholson has, and yesterday when this started, a heckler was in the crowd at the golf course inside, do it for the saudi royal family. he took a pause, bookie that hole, and is now 40 30 to 48. so, he said that the heck alert didn't impact him. but certainly this is something everybody's mind. and the talk just happened about ten minutes ago. alex. >> wow, look considering how quiet are supposed to be at a golf tournament, i like. that that most of rattled the

players. thank you very much, liz mclaughlin, for. that let's go now to the economy. as inflation reaches its highest level in four decades, fears have certainly intensified that the country is on the verge of a recession if not already in one. the concerns come after the federal reserve, this week, enacted its second consecutive aggressive interest rate hike. we need to tamp down runaway inflation without tipping the economy into a recession. joining me now is austin goldsby, former chairman of the counsel economic advisors of the obama ministration, and a professor at the university of chicago. booth school of business. austin, really good to see you here. so, the u.s. economy, it has contracted for two straight quarters. and that is technically the textbook definition of a recession. but then you have posture sessions, usually saw surgeon unemployment, and our labor market right now remains very strong. so, how much is a matter that the economy yes meets a technical definition of a recession, and yet put it against the other economic

factors, how much they play a part? who or what ultimately decides, if we have entered a recession? >> well, the two quarters of negative growth, the six months of negative growth, is not the tactical definition. that is a rule of thumb that we use because it is really highly correlated, but we go back to the history when we have had recessions that didn't match to that definition. there's a group of economists at the national bureau of economic research, that are known as the business psycho dating commission. it is bipartisan and they are eight very senior people who look back after the fact, importantly, to decide when where there are dissent recessions. so a lot of the brouhaha about the word recession now is that, it is not just gdp that the business cycle commission looks that. they look at employment, they look at industrial production,

at real incomes, and a gdp and other things. and we have never had an actual recession where jobs went up. so the fact that jobs were going up in the first two quarters of the year, strongly suggest that it is not a recession. i think it is a little bit, not pointless, but i think it might end up being futile to have this argument over what was true in the first three months, or for six months of the year, when the fed is raising rates as fast as it is raising wherever we were a few months ago, we might be in recession in the near future. because the fed raising interest rates in the most common cause a perception. >> you know, to that point, with the fed having pulled this trigger, and it's was really and supersize interest rate hike to chain the inflation, try to slow the play come onto me down. there's some critics, and then loathed elizabeth warren who are warning that the fed is unnecessarily jeopardizing a healthy job market, over the

price increases that are driven by the factors outside of his control. i want to play some of what she said, and they get a response. >> the fed is trying to sharply raise rates so that businesses will contract, so that they will either cut hours for employees or really employees off. if they can't address a whole lot of the reasons that we have this inflation, but they can force a lot of people into layoffs and no income coming in, look at the brutal situation that puts people in. we continue to have high prices, but also have high unemployment at the same time. >> so she is suggesting they shouldn't rates rates the way they have been as much. >> yeah, look, i'm an old friend of senator warren from back in her days as a professor. which she is describing is the dilemma that, for the fed, they have got to figure out how much

of this inflation is coming from supply shocks, and how much is coming from overheated demand. the people who are advocating the biggest rate increases are arguing that all of the inflation is coming from too much demand. so if you cool the economy, the inflation will go away. one senator warren said there, and is perceptive, is that if a lot of this is coming from war in ukraine, driving up the price of oil covid shots, reducing the supply of labor. the chip shortages, and what's happening in the supply chains with china. you can raise the unemployment rate, but you can't get the inflation to go away because overheating is not the main cause of the inflation. so the fed is definitely going to have to balance that out. and as you said, these are kind of rocket ship increases in the rates. they haven't raced rates this fast in a very long time. so, that is just raising the in the uncertainty, the degree of

difficulty of trying to manage this without starting a recession. >> got to talk about the emotional component, austin, about all of this. because there are some analysts who say that fear of the recession, that could be the final straw that actually tips the economy into one, actually does it and puts us into the recession. if enough people believe the prices are gonna keep going up, then they act on it. they slow down, rain in their spending, it is a self fulfilling prophecy at that point. how concerned are you about that? >> well, the cell fulfilling prophecy argument can exist. but i think it is sometimes overblown. i don't think that saying the word recession, or possibility of recession, i don't think that that will moon is what mostly creates a recession. the main thing that would create a recession, if we have one, is that the fed is raising the interest rate as fast as it has ever raised interest rates. that, plus the rolling off of the government spending of last

year, which everything is a, what was the change from the year before. the shrinking of the government sector is having a massive drag on gdp growth in the country. so, fed raising interest rates, plus the slowdown from reducing government spending. those would be the things driving us into recession. i don't think it would really be psychological. >> well, the fed better sure think long and hard about whether they do it again when they don't when they have a next meeting, because there is talk that they may again raise things. austin gillespie, it is good to see. you we will stay in touch, thank you so much. it blasted off to outer space. now it is hurdling back to earth, and scientists are trying to figure out where it might crash and who could be in danger. that is next. danger that is next with downy infusions, let the scent set the mood. ♪ feel the difference with downy. it's the all-new subway series menu! 12 irresistible new subs... ...like #3 the monster.

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berlin switched off the lights of several monuments and historic buildings this week as far as the national effort to say field and become less reliant on russian energy.

some 200 buildings in the russian capital was eventually go dark at night. they will have to go building to building to turn off those mechanisms that turn the night lights on. -- but is back at her job after brief page suspension. manny gutierrez, of robb elementary school -- that late some responsibility of the shooting on her for not fixing a lot on a school door, she contested some of the reports fining in the school superintendent reversed his decision to suspend her, and colombian popstar shakira could face eight years in prison for tax fraud. -- she is rejected prosecutors settlement deal opting to go to trial instead a trial date has yet to be said when he might want to look up when you head outside this weekend because

pieces of a chinese rocket or hurling back to earth and they're expected to land somewhere in the world over the next 24 hours. nbc's molly hunter is tracking its descent from london. molly, i'm saying this because i'm, laughing but it's like a bad movie. is there any idea where these pieces are going to last? or if they leave and reach or? >> i have no answers for you alex. that is the short answer. we've been talking to astronomers all day to try to figure out how much debris, would kind of debris, and where exactly it might last. right now they're trying to predict exactly where this rocket shall is gonna reenter the atmosphere, and they're really trying to predict where how much and where this debris might why not. take a look. >> pieces of china's most powerful rocket or hurdling back towards earth. it shot into space earlier this week taking a new scientific lab for experiment to try to space station. while the lab is in place, the booster rocket that helped take

it there, called a long march five b, now cratering back to earth uncontrolled. >> -- the standard we're trying to encourage is that people deliberately bring large of that's down in a south location. they've chosen not to do. that >> the long march rocket weighs 23 tons and it is tall as a ten storey building. the chinese foreign ministry says most of the rocket will burn up of long reentering and they say the risk to the public is pretty low. but experts say the risk is way higher than it should be. >> there's a 99.5% chance that nothing interesting will happen. but there is a 99.99, more than ten times the accepted standards or risk that the u.s. gives us, and it's something that something people can choose not to. do >> this is not the first time china has let a rocket free fall back to. earth last year the rule rules on a high alert watching this out of control in china's

booster. filmed shooting over jordan, oman, and saudi arabia is the reinterpret that must fear before crashing into the indian ocean. the question this morning? where will this debris from this rocket last. ? >> i alex, the latest prediction that we have seen and really i should say it's been moving wildly all day. the latest protectionist should re-enter the earth's atmosphere and start burning up into smaller pieces within the next hour. we win i have more answers for whoever takes over next hour alex. re-spark a win -- is sparking this discussion about what is good in that behavior in space. what is quite clear, while the chinese have done, is not hitting that international norms that the u.s. expects. >> you kind of think you've got to make the edge extra outages plans as well make sure you're doing that safely right? it's interesting. thank you molly hunter. we appreciate. >> several new and big

headlines for the january 6th investigation. trump's acting chief strap, mulvaney, and ex treasury secretary, mnuchin, -- ten mini member jamie raskin offered this explanation on why he thinks people who are close to trump or not coming forward. >> i think there is a rapid flight away from donald trump. i think most people can read the writing on the wall that he's gonna end up isolated and shamed and embarrassed and people don't want to be in his company at the point. so, i think more and more of them, they want to establish some kind of objective factual record of where they were in these events. >> and this comes as the justice department announced its own january 6th investigation stopped short of opening a former criminal polar bid to donald trump himself. let's bring in hugo lowell,

congressional reporter for the guardian. let's start this discussion with mulvaney and mnuchin, what can you tell us about the conversations with the committee this week? >> there are a host of trump cabinet officials who have been called in to speak to the committee. we understand it is some sort of recorded, transcribed interview. a lot of that focus on what happens after january 6th and have the trump cabinet responded to trump's real dereliction of duty with respect to the capitol attacks. they're asking stuff about the 25th amendment, and how [inaudible] it kind of shows the committees broad look at everything committed on january 6th, including the trump white house response, irrespective of what trump was doing. >> so a panel reportedly has their sights set of former secretary of state mike pompeo. let's take a listen to police on wednesday. >> we've had discussions with them about potentially appearing before them.

make sure that we want to understand what it is they're asking for. i am happy to cooperate with things that are fair and transparent and deliver good actors for the american people. >> he should use a little sunscreen. do you expect him to fully cooperate? why does the committee wants testimony? >> if you talk to the select committee, -- they have always been a way to put together the most complete account of events surrounding january 6th as they can. that does involve talking to trump's top advisors and top allies both in the administration and outside the administration. pump they fills that bill. i don't think that the select committee thinks that pompeo played an active role in planning -- but they are trying to build a complete picture of what the white house was doing writ large. i think pompeo fits into that. the fact that pompeo says he will go in and talk to the committee, i think it shows

that he probably has less of a guilty conscience than other allies of the former president. but then, again it remains to be seen just how much these guys actually cooperate. we've seen this before, people, saying of course will go to the talk to the committee, we've got nothing to hide, and then when push comes to shove, the changes. >> and they can lawyer. up -- political reports the committee now has a formal path to share investigative material with the doj. -- here's what's committee member jamie raskin says on the. >> i think it's important that we have a working relationship, which is an arms length relationship obviously. we obviously have been able to tell a pretty comprehensive story to the american people and the congress, because we have not turned over facts to other avenues where they can get out. >> he, ago what do you know

about the doj investigation and the extent to which she could rely on the committee's findings? >> i think doj is really doing their own investigation. there are suddenly some feed that going on. but it goes both. ways he's picking backing a little bit and what the select committee uncovered considering the fake elector scheme. -- i think when you see all of these things coalescing, the justice department really has been doing its own thing. we saw on the reporting this week that they had mark meadows this phone record earlier than we had anticipated, and they were asking witnesses as early as january about their involvement of donald trump, so that really points to the fact that they are taking an expansive look, irrespective of what the select committee is doing. >> okay hugo lowell. always good to talk to you on a weekly basis about all this. thank you so much. some big headlines this week

suggesting some democrats may be winning critical midterm races as trump endorsed candidates, they are sinking fast. all of this while the former president helps that saudi -backed golf tournament. i also want to share the latest numbers of mass shootings in this country. there have been 77 in the month of july, killing 51 people. this year's grisly toll rising to 388 dead all the result of 374 mass shootings in america just this year. this year

bring us now is nbc msnbc justice correspondent. >> it is obvious that andrea and i have -- just been a privilege to me to walk the same hall as you my dear friend. >> just watching, you it is a master class you are part of my life, and our lives. thank you pete for all your

wonderful service. >> thank you andrea, thank you for your friendship. >> some new outrage in ukraine today over the deadly rocket strike on a detention center where captured ukrainian soldiers are being held as prisoners of war. relatives of captured soldiers took to the streets to demand information on their loved ones, with both ukrainian and russian authorities blaming each other for the attack. let's go to nbc nbc's morgan chatterley joining me now from kyiv. morgan, this one is a deplorable mess. so tell me what you are hearing from the folks there. >> yeah, alex, good evening. officials are calling this a crime against humanity. it is certainly being investigated as a potential war crime. and when you see some of those four scenes that came out of that prisoner for camp in the town of oliva, it is absolutely getting. these soldiers that were taken by russia, were sleeping inside these prisoner of war barracks when this explosion, or strike took place. the investigation into what exactly took place there, it is

ongoing. but we do know that at least 50 ukrainian soldiers were killed. upwards of 75 others wounded, when this took place. within the last 36 hours or so, in the dynarski region, and that is currently occupied by russia and how some of the most bitter fighting so far in this war. this was a blast that left bunk beds just in pieces. and really decimated the entire building there, alex, we do know that it has been condemned by the international community. the ukrainian secret service says that they have intercepted phone calls that prove that russia is responsible for this blast. and we've also heard from their minister of defense saying that it appears rushes wagner group, that private army with very close ties to president putin, is responsible here. much more evidence should be coming from the scene in the coming days. but there is absolutely a call

here in kyiv and elsewhere for russia to be held responsible, and russia to be officially labeled as a state sponsor of terrorism after seeing this blast. russia, meanwhile saying, they are sticking to the line. that ukraine did this attack on their own soldiers in order to frame russia. that is something that multiple intelligence agencies say tonight that is simply not true. alex? >> it is extraordinary, as we get to the bottom of. it doesn't like it could be a level of a war crime, if indeed russia is responsible for this. but morgan chesky, thank you so much for that report from kyiv. there is new optimism percent across as something name republicans are losing ground and critical set it races. new polling in details as we are just 101 days from the midterms. s from the midterms midterms were delayed when the new kid totaled his truck. timber... fortunately, they were covered by progressive, so it was a happy ending... for almost everyone. (woman vo) sailing a great river

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warnock has a slight edge on herschel walker in georgia. here's what senator klobuchar tool my colleagues about. it >> your predictions then, i would say, are you saying is the senate holding? it >> it's that we more than hold the senate. we pick up at least the two seats that we need, i think. more but then we are able to finally get voting rights legislation, john and all these things. and as you know, we need two seats to do that. >> and what about the house? we are losing the? house >> no. simone. you are going to be able to hear all of someone's conversation with senator klobuchar coming up today at 4 pm. but joining right now, we have to miller, former top aide to 2016 presidential candidate jeff bush. now a never trumper and writer for the bulwark, host of not my party on the snap, and an msnbc political analyst to somehow you find time to write this

book, why we, did a travel out from the republican road to hell. we are trying to join a conversation about recently. but tim, this is far cry from the notion that democrats are likely to lose the house and senate. that is where we have been hearing. i mean, is there something else but these republican candidates. these two, that we are talking about, that i spoke literally are herschel walker and and mehmet oz, they gave democratic candidates and edge? >> yeah, i'm probably temper operative ms. him about the house if i was a democrat. i appreciate senator klobuchar has to hold the party line there. but here's the thing, voters is just reality, in an off year election, did you get familiar the senate candidates. in a way that at least some voters don't with house candidates. and a lot of time in the house vote is just a reflection of whether you are happy with the incumbent party, well you happy with the economy or not. but the senate does a different animal. people know their senators, they learn about them, and doctor oz is running a horrific campaign. he's live in from pennsylvania. herschel walker is clearly

unqualified to be in the senate, by a large margin. and he makes even existing unqualified senators look like lgbt j by comparison. and the schedules and know anything, understand anything. and i think republicans potentially could have problematic candidates in other places. we've got a big arizona primary on tuesday and they put out another unqualified extreme candidate, and like masters. i think the democrats are really benefiting from these weak republican candidates. plus, you know, finally we are seeing some movement from the democrats in the senate with this climate bill coming up, and obviously the aversion of roe. i think it will engage the democratic base. so i think things are deadly looking better in the senate. outlook >> you mentioned doctor oz in new jersey, and the enthusiasm gap is widely favoring this particular race when it comes to john fetterman. there is trolling. you have seen it. of doctor oz new jersey. and, that is not what we're looking at right there. that's not only trolling episode, watch this. >> yeah. doctor oz, stevie veasey here.

what are you doing in pennsylvania? everybody knows 11 new jersey, and you are just using your and laws address over there. and you do not want to mess around with john fetterman. trust me. you are a little out of your lead. >> i mean, come on. stephen guns and from bruce springsteen's easy street bandit does not get more jersey than that. you have been a high-level political operative. does trolling boost voter enthusiasm? i mean cannot put fetterman over the top? >> you know, hopefully i think they're hoping that it engages particularly younger voters who are really active on social media who don't often turn out at high rates and determines. i think it could help their. it also can depress morale. among your own voters, i've seen, as i've been on campaigns where we got told. and you can sons that the enthusiasm for your own candidate goes down. i think you are seeing this with all. 's office got really drug along across the finish line in the primaries by trump. he probably wouldn't want to

work for the trump endorsement. the conservative voter men aren't that excited for him, maga voters are that excited about him. suburban swing voters aren't that excited about him. he doesn't really have a piece of support. and so, when you throw the dollar that he lives in the york suburbs in new jersey, not in pennsylvania on top of that, i do think that could have an impact on sort of lowering the intensity of people saying, man. and i'm really gonna get a good turn out to vote for doctor oz though he hasn't imagined the governor's race doug mastriano who was there on january six, who was trump's appointment for the coup. he might be able to turn out some maga voters, but these other lesson susie astico publicans, they might look at their choices and say, and i don't need to turn over the. midterms >> let me ask you quick about democratic congressman tim ryan and ohio. he's gotta -- of right now over the hill very opportunity. nbc news is reporting that ryan searing as on fox news outracing outspending vance, what does fans not do right if you can answer that about 15 or

20 seconds? >> i think that tim ryan is running the best democratic campaign in the country. everybody should watch. it it's because he is talking to republicans. a lot of times democrats get stuck in their bubble. he is running ads with chuck carlson, defending him. that might feel a little growth, but it is working. he is targeting republican voters and i think it is more about what tim ryan is doing right now than what's j.d. vance's. >> excellent, tim miller, 20 seconds i appreciated. that is gonna do it for me on this edition of alex witt reports. in just a minute, lindsey ryder is in for yazoo vossoughian as our coverage continues here on msnbc. have a good saturday. on msnbc. have a good saturday

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