anti viral regiment that he was on last week. the indiana senate nearly passed a total abortion ban during a special session on saturday. exceptions would be allowed for rape and incest, but they had to sign a notarized affidavit for those cases. and now heads to the house chambers. at least five people have died from the historic flooding in eastern kentucky. governor andy beshear says the final death toll but not be known for weeks, as recovery efforts continue. and the winning ticket in friday's mega millions drawing was sold at a gas kitchen in illinois. the one point 34 billion dollar jackpot is the second largest mega millions jackpot in history. no one has come forward to clean the price. the second power of ayman ayman mohyeldin begins now. >> coming up on this hour of ayman, did mitch mcconnell get played? how democrats caught senate republicans off guard to pull together a reconciliation package. plus, caught on tape, the

exclusive audio of congressman matt gaetz discussing pardons with a key trump ally. then, the new maga, forget trump, we are talking about mothers against greg abbott, a new group that wants change for texas families. i am ayman mohyeldin, let's get started. all right, mitch mcconnell got played, there is no other way to say. he got duped, he fooled, he got bamboozled, whatever word you want to use, that is what happened to him. it is a statement i don't think i have ever said before on the show. i'm about to say something else rather unprecedented, kudos to joe manchin, working together with senate majority leader chuck schumer. joe manchin pulled a fast one on old mitch and in doing so, resurrected president biden stalled legislative agenda. how did they manage it? it is a bit complicated, so bear with me for a second. you see, the white house and

senate democrats had two pieces of legislation that they wanted to pass before the midterms. one was the so-called chips bill, which provided funding for american made semiconductors and the other was a renegotiated slimmed down version of president biden's build back better proposal from last year. mitch mcconnell and a number of senate republicans supported the chips bill, but those same senators threatened to block its passage if democrats attempted to pass any biden's build back better plan do the reconciliation process. the once a year exception, one budget related legislation can pass with just 50 votes, instead of the usual 60. when there seemed to be a high-profile falling out between joe manchin and chuck schumer over potential build back better compromise just a few weeks ago, it seemed that much mcconnell, along with the rest of us believed that that legislation was actually did, it was done. he gave the greenlight to his caucus, the republicans, to vote for the chips bill.

it ultimately passed this week, with 64 votes. and there in lies the trap. the pair encouraged behind the scenes by the likes of senator john john hickenlooper and chris coons, have secretly negotiated a build back better compromise for weeks, unbeknownst to anyone. as soon as chips past, with the support of republicans, manchin and schumer announced their deal and their intention to pass through the reconciliation process. so, in short, as i have said, mitch mcconnell got played. earlier, i spoke with one of the lawmakers most responsible for keeping joe manchin and chuck schumer at the negotiating table, democratic senator john hickenlooper of colorado, watch. >> senator but john hickenlooper, think you for joining us. according to axios, sir, you had it integral role in getting senator schumer and mentioned back to the negotiating table

back on reconciliation. it is good for us in the climate. tell me what you are saying to get them back to the table. >> let's be clear that chuck schumer and joe manchin were the ones that created this and negotiated it. i just wanted to be the positive and optimistic force, anytime there were disruptions. i tried to push through them and make sure that everybody else was coming along. for a while there, democrats all over the country were giving up. it was just too important for us to give up. >> yeah, no, absolutely, i think that is why a lot of people are appreciative to your efforts and certainly to senator schumer and manchin, as well, for getting the deal done. do you think senator sinema will get on board? >> i think so. i hope so. i have not talked to her. but she is a real patriot in terms of climate rescue. she understands a sense of

urgency that we all need to have, that the clock is running on how we are heating up the planet. i know she has issues and is a very detailed oriented person, very smart, but i think she and senator schumer will work through to get to a solution, i hope. >> do you based on what you have been able to see in these negotiations and broadly speaking, do you feel that you can get any of your republican colleagues or counterparts, rather, on board, as well? >> i don't know if we will. probably not because they lock down. that is the word, they will oppose this at every level. but when you talk privately to a lot of republicans, they believe the climate change is real, and they understand that we had to take some bold action. when we do these kinds of initiatives, start building solar energy in scale, the prices drop dramatically, which

really helps the entire world. if you look at solano, over the last ten years, it is dropped over 90%. wind has dropped 80%. these are huge benefits of these kinds of government incentives. >> that's if you can talk about the specifics of the reconciliation deal. there are big investments, as we're just saying on climate change, on prescription drug pricing. walk me through some of the specific contours of the reconciliation bill that you think are important to highlight. >> i think, again, 369 billion dollars to address climate rescue is huge. there is no interviewing dollars to reduce the deficit. people talk about inflation, one way to address that is to go at the deficit. you will have 100 billion dollars towards renewable resources energy, $10 million to help working families get rooftop solar or cheap pumps in

their houses, help them afford electric vehicles. this is really the first comprehensive step to going acclimates inch head on. and yet, we have to remember that this is the beginning, it is not the end of anything. we are still doing with transmission lines at the scale we need to. we have done so much, but there is still so much the need to be done. >> sadly, one of the reactions from your counterpart of the senate republicans to delay this deal is to stall and delay legislation to actually help veterans exposed to burn pits. your reaction to that? i think most americans understand that politics can be a difficult game, but this is a particularly gruesome low by the republicans to not help veterans exposed to burn pits, just because democrats struck a deal on reconciliation. >> to say that i am disappointed is an understatement.

i don't understand how they connect in politics sometimes. thanks no conduct. i am hoping we will get a vote this coming week, and we can make sure that veterans get the support they need. these people are fighting to protect this, to protect our freedoms, and when they come down with these horrible diseases, various cancers, or kind of respiratory issues, that are clearly the result of having lived close to these toxic, medical way supplies, old cars, all burning in the pits, some of them are the size of a football field, we need to support them. how can we question that? >> yeah, and there is also growing concerns, sir, and i'm sure you have seen this, senator susan collins say that son some republicans might now oppose codifying same-sex marriage because of this reconciliation deal. have you heard anything to that effect? is she serious about this? again, what would this mean for

that effort? >> i don't really understand. chuck schumer never said -- the chips act, that we were not going to do reconciliation. as joe manchin said consistently all along, he had not stopped negotiating. he said i am down to a group of reporters on a thursday or friday. that does not mean who's done talking them now, that means he had enough. and he said next monday, no, i am still negotiating working on the stuff. i will talk to chuck, and let's take this thing forward. if joe manchin and chuck schumer will all be working on the still, and joe manchin was openly was quoted as saying as still working on it, the republicans are getting so angry that, somehow, the chips act passed, and then the reconciliation went forward -- i don't think that was a political device that chuck schumer put together.

i think that was just how things broke. maybe they waited a couple of hours or not, i don't know, but i don't see what it has to do with same sex marriage. i don't see what it has to do with medical benefits for our veterans. >> how do democrats take on this achievement, if it does get passed and ultimately signed into law? and build on the momentum going into the midterms? because the truth is, democrats are getting things done, but it does not necessarily seem that they are good at saying that they are getting things done to the american voters. there is a perception that nothing is getting done and washington. how do you change that dynamic in the midterms? >> part of it is talking about what we have done. that is why joe manchin came up would be the name of this bill, the inflation reduction act. i am not sure how much it will reduce inflation, but it will certainly slow it down, giving relief to people, buying

prescription drugs will be a big deal, director million dollars to reduce the deficit, that is a big deal. looking at ways to help working people afford electric vehicles, $4,000 for use vehicles. electric vehicles are for sale used at their for 12 or $15,000. this will help people for that. these are all clear ways that this is going to help people in their monthly household budgets. we should talk about it. we democrats are too busy throwing stones at each other sometimes then to recognize how much we as a group has done for the country. >> absolutely, we can't let the republicans, as well, define the narrative for what the democrats are doing on the hill, as well. they seem to be doing that quite consistently. >> i think that the republicans have become the party of chaos and democrats are the party of stability. that is a big switch in the last several decades, i think. >> senator john hickenlooper,

thank you for joining us, i appreciate time. >> my pleasure, thank you. >> and be sure to join us for a big we counting down to the terms. on monday, steve kornacki will be at the big board to break down he has senate and governor races. watch decision 2022, countdown to the midterms, monday at 10 pm eastern right here on msnbc. then on tuesday, then primary election night with msnbc beginning at 8 pm eastern. up next was roger stone's promised a pardon by a republican member of congress? there is new reporting for the washington post after this. r this

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this is before rioters stormed the capitol and before trump had even been impeached, once. but just like in 2022, the former presidents allies were not without their own legal woes. take a long time trump

confidant roger stone, who is gearing up to take on charges that stemmed from robert mueller's russia investigation. hours ago, the washington post obtained new footage from the upcoming documentary, a storm foretold, which appears to show roger stone and another close trump ally, republican congressman matt gaetz caught on a hot mic on the eve of his trial. >> i have done it all, at the end of the day. >> we are a few weeks from trial. >> yeah -- >> i may have to appeal to the big man, because i've got -- it's the district of columbia. we surveyed 120 jurors. 90 of them know who i am, and they have made my guts. voluntarily. >> i don't think the big likely go down for this. this is so left up. >> nbc news has not been able

to obtain or verify the recording, which appears to be edited or obtain comment to get from other of the two men. in a statement to the post, gaetz office said he is not speaking on behalf of trump. for his part, roger stone complained about the papers pass coverage of the case and chose not to address questions about his conversation with matt gaetz. let's bring in my saturday night all-star panel. dean obeidallah is the host of dean obeidallah show on sirius xm. betsy woodruff swan is a national correspondent at politico. she's also an msnbc contributor. and eugene robinson is a columnist at the washington post and msnbc political analysts. it is good to have alter view but does the saturday. dean, i will start with you, your reaction to that hot mic moment? >> first of all, can i say that i am happy to be here, ayman. if i won the mega millions, i was not coming. that not be a billionaire.

i would send someone to talk. considering i am not a billionaire, i will be with you on saturday. >> let me tell you something, friend, if i won that mega millions, i would not be here, as well. you'd be talking to somebody else. we are in the same boat. >> i'm happy to be here with you. look, this is like a scene from goodfellas. the big guy is going to take care of it and do the right thing. to remind people, this is literally four weeks before roger stone's trial was to begin, where he was accused of lying to congress and trying to witness temper. he was convicted of seven felonies, seven, folks, by a jury. guess what, donald trump ultimately pardon him. the big guy is trump, we know, and matt gaetz says the big lie will take care of it. this is a crime family. this is unreal. donald trump still skated to this day and has not been charged with anything, whatsoever. -- why isn't matt gaetz charged for witness tampering? why isn't that a trump?

it is remarkable. i am glad there is video, because they would've denied it. >> dean, is that not how you speak with your friends when you are hanging out and the big man has to appeal to the big guy? >> i am half palestinian, i have a sweet side -- i had to talk like that, i had to be honest. you are a big guy. >> i can't help you with legal problems, don't come to me like that. their irony is that gaetz is a member of the house judiciary committee. they were actually investigating whether trump might have obstructed justice by floating possible pardons to stone and other allies during the mueller investigation. but this open up the congressman to possible disciplinary or legal troubles, do you think? >> you think, i think so. he has already legal trouble for potential sex trafficking of a minor.

we got problems. what he needs last is more problems. this is more problems because it sounds like witness tempering, whatever to me. we read the rico act. would he say about the sort of thing. it is incredible, as dean said, that to a member of congress talking about the president of the united states, and it sounds absolutely like a scene from goodfellas. it is just insane, the depths to which we sank during the trump years. people like gaetz and a lot of people around trump are still there, and they want to come back. it is incredible. it is a document of our times, it really is. >> i was going to say, if they are speaking that subtly, and this was a couple years ago, imagine if trump gets back into power. there would not be this subtle, kind of like wink wink and a nod. it will be literally straight out.

betsy, let me switch gears for the moment. the new york times obtained previously undisclosed emails which provide a look at efforts by trump's advisers to reverse the outcome of the 2020 election. in the emails, one lawyer repeatedly used the word fake to describe the so-called electors, which has become the center of this big investigation. later, the same lawyer suggested alternative votes is probably a better term them fake, punctuating that thought with a smiley face emojis. forget saying the quiet part out loud here, it's there in black and white. what could this mean for the doj investigation, which has now widened to include this so called the fake elector scheme? >> the scheme presents a lot of interesting challenges for the justice department, in part because the factual situation, as it played out, is basically unprecedented. in addition, because of that,

there isn't much legal history in terms of how the justice department in the past has handled this type of situation. on top of that, adding even more complexity, you are dealing with dozens of different fake or so-called alternate electors, many of whom gave a wide variety of varied explanations for why they did what they did, as a pertained to this particular little project. some of them said that they were doing it as a contingency plan in case a court ruling overturned the outcome of an election, based on legal advice. some of them said that at the time, publicly, not being particularly cloak and dagger about it. others took the opposite attack and very aggressively claimed that they were actually do legitimate and lawful electors, and that the biden electors, the real legitimate lawful electors, were the ones participating in stealing the election. it is just a complicated and

weird situation for the doj. i think what has to be emphasized is that the way we have seen this play out over the course of the january six select committee hearings has both been incredibly reveler tory, no question whatsoever, but also, it's the easiest task that any investigative body is going to have to make the case against these folks, because it is not, for the most part, adversarial. there aren't defense attorneys. there aren't potentially jurors that would be skeptical or even in this case, hostile. the doj gets a much more complex project and the select committee has, and a much higher stakes project. there are a lot of folks who have been pressured with department, that it hasn't move faster, hasn't charge people yet, but their job is fundamentally different and fundamentally more difficult. >> yeah, they certainly have a higher bar as well if they are going after legal cases, as opposed to a public opinion case. let's move on to missing tax. dean, you are someone who regularly deletes your text

messages. you wipe your phones clean every time you migrate your data. you have a lot of missing emails that we don't know about. i do want to start with you. you have in recent weeks, the secret service said they don't have these text from the days around january six. recently, we learned that there were text messages from trump's acting homeland security secretary, chad wulf and his acting deputy secretary ken cuccinelli, also went missing for a key period leading up to the insurrection. the dhs was reportedly aware of these missing tax, but they didn't do anything to investigate it. i am taking, like, you are a dhs official, you just saw a crime take place, this attempted coup, you don't think it might be who view to say, hey guys, don't believe finding, even if there was a migration, let's wait it out, let's see where it goes. it's either gross incompetence, or, a cover-up. it's gotta be one or the other. >> sure, first of all, i don't really text messages. i blocked you, ayman, so i

don't this year texas anymore. i couldn't deal with it. i should show them on our. secondly, there was all phony and angered nature -- look, why would the dhs, where the secret service newly-and a text message, forget a migration -- why would they were hold those as valuable potential pieces of evidence, because they are law enforcement agencies, especially the secret service. and routine maintenance? oh yeah, the attack at the capitol, last time it happened was an 1814, literally, that was the last time an attack at the capitol happened. the war of 1812. you should keep this. you look back at watergate, the fbi was involved. i'm not saying that there is a cover-up or conspiracy to cover up here. they should not be the first time that agents were involved in helping a president do criminal activities and helped cover-up, because that is what happened during watergate. >> eugene, give me your thoughts on this really

quickly. it goes beyond coincidence. you know washington better than me, but it seems that may too many incidences, missing text messages and what have you communications during this time. >> i am not a big believer and coincidences. the washington post gives me a following, a phone. every once in a while, to give me a new phone. i switch to the new phone and lo and behold, all my stuff is still there. it's all there. i have done this several times. i know it works. to lose that stuff, i would have to actively do everything but smash the phone with a hammer, even that would work, because it is in the cloud somewhere. the fact that it's very difficult to lose stuff in cyberspace and also what we were talking earlier, use the word fake when the electors,

all this goes to what the lawyers call -- was on the person's mind, did they have criminal intent? i will tell you, i'm no lawyer, but this is telling me that these things aren't happening by accident. >> completely agree with you. panel, please stick around, we have a lot more to discuss next. the architect of the texas abortion ban is not targeting the lgbtq community. what you need to know. know. flowers are fighters. that's why the alzheimer's association walk to end alzheimer's is full of them. because flowers find a way to break through. just like we will. join the fight at alz.org/walk ♪ ♪

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want to remember. trust me. mitchell is one of the architects of texas's six-week abortion ban. before roe v. wade was overturned, he was arguing in the supreme court that they should also reconsider the rulings on same-sex marriage and the right to engage in same-sex sexual oral activity. the sentiment whether by accident or intentional, would be repeated by clarence thompson after roe was repeated last month. mitchell's move to work to prevent hiv medical medication is not covered by the affordable care act, groundbreaking drugs that prevent hiv infection may be harder to get in the u.s. if mitchell wins a lawsuit that pits his clients religious beliefs against free nationwide access to the medication. let's bring back our saturday night panel. eugene, your reaction to the lawsuit that has been filed. >> i am not surprised. i am appalled. i am frightened, as to where

this is headed. i know it will be resisted by all means, but we see where the supreme court is headed. the justice clarence thomas pointed away to overturning obergefell. he might get the chance. >> dean, if jonathan mitchell loses this case on hiv preventative medication, what would conservatives come up with a different argument and try again. they tried to go after roe v. wade for 50 years. >> that's an excellent point, ayman. their fundamental beliefs don't change, only their tactics do. the republican party tells you what they are about. right now, they have been emboldened by decades of overturning roe, so that states can allow republicans to then imposed a religious beliefs as law. this is a criminal nationalist agenda. i wrote about this this week. christian nationality is the

idea that america is a strong white christian nation, speedos separation of church and state, and their religious belief should be the law of the land. they are doing that. -- banning marriage economy, something, or control, the exact same thing. anyone that has any doubt -- last week, in the house, they voted on marriage equality. 75% of republicans voted against it. on birth control, to have national protection fort, 90% of the republicans in the house voted against it. folks, we are dealing with a movement that is truly anti-democratic. it is white nationalist and trying to impose religion as law, and they are not hiding it. -- others are more subtle, but they are doing it. it's the same thing. >> betsy, ted cruz and josh hawley, they have both said that obergefell was wrongly decided. do you get a sense based on your reporting and the

conversations you are having that there is growing support for overturning sin sex marriage amongst congressional republicans? or whether or not this effort to codify same-sex marriage will even succeed when you have such vocal opposition in the senate? >> for many congressional republicans, this topic is making them bang their heads against the wall, because the broader challenge, particularly the house gop faces is that the republican parties base is simultaneously very active in powerful and also moving further and further away from majority republican opinions on a variety of issues that affect so many american lives. marriage equality, of course, perhaps being the top at the list. one thing that you can always watch for that is interesting is what's the difference between how republicans treat issues like this, depending on how close they are to the parties base.

ukraine is actually a good practice for this way of looking at it. senate republicans are the ones most insulated from the gop base. they only had to deal with republican base voters every six years. they are also a group of washington republicans that are most supportive of the u.s. back of ukraine and its war of russia. if you look at astrologists, it is a much more mixed bag. you have a lot of house republicans that support and continue funding for ukraine, but a lot of others, who very much don't, and that is increasingly the case in the house republican congress. then if you take one big step even closer to republican primary holders and look at candidates right now, who are running in the republican primaries, that's the group of republicans that is the supported of the u.s. backing of ukraine. i have not done this project with that many other topics, but i would guess that it holds out similarly, particularly in the case of cruz and holly, both who are very much invested in maintaining the support that

the republican party's base has in them, even if it means taking in positions on policy issues like that them farther and farther away from where the bulk of american voters are actually at. >> i think that is a safe bet. eugene, you mentioned clarence thomas earlier, talking about pointing the way in his concurring opinion. samuel alito, just a simulator, is under fire for a speech he made this week marking foreign leaders for the reaction to row being overturned. listen to what he said. >> i had the honor this term of waiting the only supreme court decision in the history of the institution that has been lambasted by a whole string of foreign leaders. one of these was former prime minister boris johnson, but he paid the price. what really wanted me was when the duke of sussex addressed

the united nations and seemed to compare the decision, who may not be spoken with the russian attack on ukraine. >> i mean, so many dots here, eugene, but your reaction to a sitting supreme court justice making those kinds of comments overseas and the totality of everything he said? >> it's hard to believe, but it is where we are. this is a determined unchained, unplugged supreme court majority with no -- if roberts gets his -- at least five votes and generally six to basically rewrite modern american life. that is what they intend to do.

he has not mixed bones about it. here, assuming it's a supreme court justice speaking this way, it is chilling to me, but we need to look at in the eye. this is where we are. this court will do this for a long time. >> it is so sad and unbecoming to see a supreme court justice speak this way, especially against foreign leaders in this manner. i agree with you on that. panel, stick around, we have more to discuss. next, we will talk about mothers against greg abbott, the new group taking on the republican governors. that policy with an effective campaign. iv campaign you're pretty particular about keeping a healthy body. what goes on it. usually.

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akron, that once you to think of something else, mothers against gravest, the group is a collection of democrats, moderate republicans, and independents in texas, working together in the hopes of ousting the texas governor, come november. and just this week, the group released a new powerful ad, hitting abbots antiabortion policies. >> a decision will need to be made on termination. i wish i can tell you what to do, but there is only one person who can make this choice. >> at which time do we -- >> and that person is greg. >> who that bleep is greg? >> let me just give him a call. >> all right, my saturday night panel is back. we all know who that greg they're talking about is. texas governor greg abbott. dean, your reaction to this act from others against greg abbott? >> this is great. democrats, if they're watching,

we gotta do more of this. it was funny. it made a great point. it made the point that republicans don't want to come between you and your doctor. republicans want to control your decisions, and that's what this is about. earlier in your show, and i did watch earlier, ayman, because again, i didn't win the lottery. because if i did, i wouldn't be washing it. you had ads like gavin newsom and john fetterman, again, democrats, gavin newsom is framing this perfectly. it's about our freedom. republicans want to ban abortion. they want to ban books. they want to ban black history. they won event transgender rights. and that would ban birth control and much equality. they're coming for your freedom. and this and made a great point, it made it funny. look, folks, we are 101 days, not to lose our democracy, your freedom is on the ballot, literally, and this is a great job to make you laugh and think about at the same time. >> betsy, this ad, as dean was saying, reminiscent of both john fetterman and gavin newsom, as in recent weeks that have been also highly effective. why do you think we're not seeing more left leaning politicians or groups, leaning

into these cases like these, with a style of that, taking the fight to the republicans on their turf, with their style of what they're doing to this country? >> it's a good question. and i don't know that i have an answer attend for that, as to why this isn't a more common attack, when it comes to the democratic politicians. we need to remember that many of the democratic politicians, and the most vulnerable districts are in districts where even now, after the overturning of roe v. wade, the issue that voters still say top of mind for them tends to be jobs, the economy, and inflation. some democrats, i would think, would be concerned that not presenting themselves as supporting biden's agenda, biden's efforts, the economy, working to lower gas prices, and focus on those financial issues, could potentially result in blowback. but what i can tell you is that on the right, republicans have real concern at the reversal of

roe v. wade was kind of, to use sort of battling, there's something of a wildcard. they didn't know it was sort of gonna happen, then, it happened. and what looked like guaranteed to be a wave election here for republicans suddenly got a little dicey or. whenever republicans are talking about anything other than jobs, the economy, inflation, and to a lesser extent, the border, they are nervous, and they are not on their home territory. so, for democrats to lean into this issue, in a way that success-able to a white audience is the sort of thing that creates real challenges for many republican candidates. >> eugene, your thoughts on these ads and this particular group, how they're effective in their messaging? >> it's really direct, and it's really funny. it commands or tension. and a lot of democrats haven't hunt the knack for whatever reason, for that sort of

political advertising, that sort of, that very effective way to connect with voters. i would love to see more of that, and more groups around the country with adopting this sort of method. you talk about fetterman's ads, his trolling of dr. oz, and in pennsylvania, you talk about nuisance ads. so, maybe, maybe finally, after years and years of complaining about democratic messaging, and bringing up briefing books to a knife fight, maybe, they're actually bringing knives to the night fight now. and, you know, that can mean some points in a close election. so, more of it will be released. >> yeah, and speaking of the politics of it, betsy, we have about 30 seconds. we are seeing record fundraising from better or work, abbott's challenger, who always talks about texas --

some days this year. >> major democratic donors historically have been pretty nervous about putting money into texas because they have long felt the democratic operative and activists there have been exaggerating, or overstating the extent to which democrats are making progress and that state. that said, there's no question the significant number of people moving from blue states to texas is a major source of optimism for democratic donors. and the fact that money is going there the big deal. sometimes, fundraising dollars are sort of self fulfilling prophecy's. sometimes, they are not. we have to wait and see. but the fact that the donor money is getting drawn to texas is itself no question side of growing democratic optimism. and it's something that concerns the gop. >> all right, betsy woodruff swan, eugene robinson, a dean obeidallah, who did not win the lottery, and had to work with us this evening, our thanks to the three of you.

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white house celebrated the 32nd anniversary of the americans with disabilities act. the 88 is one of our nation's most comprehensive civil rights laws, and works to ensure the rights of persons with disabilities and public accommodations employment, transportation, even government services, and ensuring that persons with disabilities from all backgrounds have equal access to resources and opportunities now, including so many more than physical and visible accessibility. now, this reality is more evident, as we navigate the physical, mental, and emotional effects of the covid pandemic. and continue to reckon with our history of oppression towards marginalized groups. so, while the white house

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