this is the canyon fang show and welcome to a special episode. 100 days so the midterms. coming up, we will dive deep into what that -- in november and the first major election since biden defeated donald trump. that election still inexplicably being debated two years later. we'll get into one of the january 6th hearings are tainting republican voters minds ahead of the midterms. former dnc chairman howard dean is here. plus, abortion or the economy? the biggest issues driving voters to the polls, and with that could mean for each

control of congress. then, playing with fire. the democrats potentially risky strategy of boosting trump-backed extremist in the primaries. could it blow up in their faces come november? later, we all remember the midterms shellacking the democrats stuck in 2021. can the party defy history this time around? all of that and more is coming up. good morning and a happy sunday to you, i am katie fang. with just weeks to, go every issue could be the one that tips the midterms in one party's favor. inflation is a dominating the conversation right now, as well as they won six hearings. we start our special coverage with msnbc correspondent allie raffa, live in washington, d.c., with a look at the big picture in some key primary races happening on tuesday. >> good morning, katie.

things are really heating. of this 100-day stretch before the november midterm elections. on tuesday you have five states holding primaries. arizona, washington, kansas missouri and with michigan can. kelly is running for reelection after winning that special election in 2020. this is an interesting race because he's facing some pretty well-known opponents. one is a trump backed candidate. we are also watching this interesting trump versus pence proxy war, as each of them endorses separate competing candidates in the gubernatorial election in arizona. then you have a few competitive races in michigan, including the democratic governor gretchen whitmer, who at one point was a potential vp candidate for president biden. also running for reelection. in ruby red missouri, republicans are fearful that foreign governor -- who resigned four years ago

made sexual assault allegations is threatening the chances of holding on to a very coveted seat. that is senator roy blood c that has been held for years now. they are fearful that that could really jeopardize their chances of holding on to that see. paddy, maurice, she is a good chance of holding on to her seat in washington. but there are few house seats were really the big lie is on the ballot. several publicans in the house running for reelection. these are republicans that voted to impeach trump after that january six hearing, or any trump supporters. that is also so that we are watching. really, all eyes on tuesday are going to be on kansas. this is the first time that the overturning of roe v. wade back in june, whether it is going to really show where the lawyers have been galvanized in our swarming to the polls in retaliation, for that decision. the back story here is that the state supreme court ruled in

2019 that the right to abortion is guaranteed in the state. that is now going to be on tuesdays ballot. that is definitely something that the political team and americans have been watching all over the country. historically, we know that the policy that does not end up winning the presidential election, which will somehow end up winning the majority in the midterm elections two years later. we know that biden's approval rating some recently, as white house deals with crisis after crisis, inflation recession gun control. moving to see democratic candidates shy away from biden and have a fear of that associating themselves with him will hurt their chances. but democrat chances are looking up, ever since we saw several letters of accomplishments in the past couple of weeks. and most recently, this looming deal in reconciliation that will probably be voted on next week. democrats are definitely hoping that this will help their chances. >> thank, you allie raffa live on capitol hill. one of the biggest questions

heading into november, will he january six committee's public hearing have any impact on republican voters? and even if they do, will it be enough of an impact to make a difference in these important races? sarah log well has been looking into that question. she is a republican strategist and has been -- dozens of social groups on this exact topic. she says she has affected a major change since june. in her focus groups, conducted in that time, quote, only 14% of trump 2020 voters wanted him to run in 2024, with a few others on the fence, in four of the groups, zero people wanted trump to run again. the reasoning is clear. they are now on certain that trump can win again. what does that mean, both for 2022 and 2024? i am honored to welcome my guest, former head of the dnc and former governor of vermont, howard indeed.

governor, thank you so much for joining us this morning. why doesn't mean in the bigger picture if most republicans have finally reached that tipping point when it comes to trump's baggage, and they are saying it is time to move on? >> it is helpful to, us obviously. the real driver for us is going to be two things. one has already happened. that was the so-called dobbs decision, when roe v. wade was thrown out. that has put an enormous amount of turmoil into this election. the second day something that hasn't happened yet, but if it does happen i think we are going to pick up seats in the house, and i think we'll pick up the seats in the senate and in the case. and that is forgiveness of student loans. the age group that favors democrats, most significantly, he is under 35. those folks often sit out maternal elections, and are disillusioned with president biden. so i think the student loan stuff is essential. people are going to be driven in droves, particularly young

woman over the abortion being thrown out by the right-wing supreme court. and i am very optimistic about our prospects in november. >> you used to be the head of the dnc. if you have that position today, as we are sitting here speaking, what would be the issue for the midterms? january six and the future of democracy? or the overturning of roe? >> well, neither. the economy is always going to be the issue. we have to do better on that, but i think we are doing better on that. the price of gas has dropped 70 cents in the last four >> reporter: weeks. i think that is looking up. if we can get the 50 votes and get rid of the filibuster on this, on the reconciliation package that manchin and schumer agreed on, that will be enormously helpful because that will show real results fairly quickly. so i think the economy is

always number one, but i think the intensity on the democratic side is going to be driven by abortion. it is hard to take rights away from 50% of the population, that they have had for 50 years. that is right the right wingers have done. and i think they're going to pay a price for that. i think we're the pick up 3 to 5 and possibly even eight seats in the senate. i think i was in trouble for the republicans, places that you didn't expect. i think florida is in trouble for the republicans, north carolina in addition to the ones that really always talks about like pennsylvania. >> so, governor. though do you think, and i understand and i share the sentiment that economy and economic factors are going to be drivable people care about. but do you think that the 16 hearings have necessarily gained any type of ground in terms of motivating even independence to be able to say, enough is enough at this gop, we need to make sure we don't have election deniers that

they're in there pushing the big lie? >> i absolutely agree. i do not think it drives turnout, but on our side i think people know that trump is a crook, he has been a crook for decades. but i think it does drive people who do vote away from voting for trumpists. . trump is been a huge ally in this election for democrats, because like doug mastriano, the trump's candidate for governor, pennsylvania has no shot whatsoever. it turns out the trump's candidate doctor oz lives in new jersey. the democratic candidate is just hammering him on that. so trump is a huge liability. i think the january six hearings are important because they remind everybody that they did not like trump. and they got rid of him in favor of a 75 year old guy who had been around for a long time. just because biden offered stability and he was not donald trump. that is going to be important. trump is put himself on the

ballot once again. that is where you see these numbers and republican focus groups, because they are afraid that trump is going to bring them down. and guess what, if it weren't for donald trump warnock and -- would not be at the senate in georgia. once you get really to really get senators like, that then georgia starts considering other democrats. that is what is so dangerous for the republicans right. now there is nothing we can do about it. as long as donald trump is on the scene. >> governor, then, do you think it is more important for people to really be reminded and understand that the 2020 2022 primaries are completely different, and should not be considered in the bigger picture of the 2024 potential republican presidential nominee and that there is more of a fight that needs to be made on these state specific races coming up in a november? >> absolutely. it is one of the big weaknesses the america thick party, has been for a long time. we do not focus on local elections. even here we have been talking about congress and the senate. the most important elections

are in the state legislatures. the reason republicans are getting away with all this corruption is because they elect to state legislators. they have picked up 1000 seats in the last 15 years, the last ten years, in state legislators. that is why state legislatures are willing to invoke things like getting rid of people's right to vote. as we have in the state of georgia and -- essentially agrees to all the jim crow voting laws. they can do that because the democrats have not paid enough attention at the local level. until they learn to potentially are always going to be struggling. democrats represent the vast majority of white people really wants, economically, and what kind of a country. what we are incredibly incapable, it seems, a focusing ourselves on doing when actually has to be done. why that, happens i do not know. part of it i think is because we are smarter we'd like to debate a lot, and we each think that everybody is right. it drives me nuts. but you have to focus on the local level. >> you know what, governor, i

think it was a very loud message that the supermajority and scotus signs. in the dobbs decision, when they overturned roe v. wade, and when they said we're sending it back to the states. your message that the states needs to be the focus of the democrats, it needs to be heard. i appreciate you taking your time to share your insight and analysis with us this morning. >> thank you. >> coming, up if voters aren't motivated, the current state of the gop are trumps tired antics? center are issues of abortion rights, inflation like we just heard from howard dean, or climate change. we have to call it to you guys on twitter, and there is one issue that stood out among the rest in actually way to prize you to learn. i will break it all down with my panel, next. a little later in the hour, drove it is such a high of one of the most closely held races, but will -- voters who never had problems before finding it more difficult to cast their ballot. we'll get into that new

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the overwhelming answer we got actually had nothing to do with any of the issues i just mentioned from that poll. they said preserving democracy was their biggest motivator. joining me now for insight and analysis our msnbc senior political analyst jonathan alter and republican strategist susan del percio. good morning to both of you. thank you for being here. jonathan, i want to start with you. we will get to those democracy concerns in a second, but first, voters say they are really concerned about the economy. it makes sense. but even though there are signs of a looming recession, unemployment is at record lows. gas prices are coming down week after week. and over 9 million new jobs have been created since biden entered office. bye, are democrats doing a bad job of selling this historically good economy as a campaign issue? >> it is tricky. because inflation is a 40 year high. so the democrats have been dealt a bad hand in that

respect. but there is definitely a lot of room for improvement in terms of selling some of joe biden's economic achievements. all the jobs created, many more jobs than were created under trump. the deficit is down, there is a lot of good economic news. as far as recessions go, it is a series of economists who decide whether we are in a recession or not. it is not coming down from pretty high levels of growth over two consecutive months or quarters. so it is not at all clear that by this fall congress is going to say, we are in a recession. they might not, because so many of the economic fundamentals are strong. it is also really important to understand that this polling just showed, of msnbc the worse,

is super important. even though democracy is not in the basic poll find a, it is so important to the core of, the base of, the democratic party, that it will help to drive turnout. in mid term of the turn elections. a lot of those people who are concerned about democracy, they start using those call tools, let them call into other states where there are more races. the democrats will have a huge get out to vote operation in november. and that will be extremely helpful in driving up turnout. if they turn it is close to the 2018 midterms, they are going to win. if it is closer to that lame 2014 midterms for democrats, then they are going to lose. it is a turnout election. >> susan, words like recession obviously triggering.

this week manchin is that he reached a deal with chuck schumer on a climate bill that also would reduce prescription drug prices and increase taxes on some corporations and the wealthy. we just heard from howard dean in the prior block, that the young progressive vote should drive turnout in november. do you think this package should it pass, will it energize those younger voters who will push democrats to do more to address climate change to actually go and vote in november? >> it should when you look at the numbers, but as someone who has been a practitioner for over 30 years, boy it is hard to rely on the younger vote to affect elections. they just do not have the history of showing up in the numbers that we want. another thing that we see in a lot of private polling is that young people feel that their votes do not matter. so they need to see some kind of connection. should this bill get through and reconciliation it will be a big win for the democrats, for joe biden.

but mostly for those who are running. and the best part that i've seen out of this legislation so far is that other democrats are not criticizing it. it seems that there is a united front, which is a really important part on messaging to the american public. as governor jean, said it is going to be the economy that is going to be the number one issue. what motivates an intensity and gets people out to vote, maybe they can sector it up. but i still think when people go to vote they are going to think about how much they paid for gas when they went to their polling place, and how much it cost to buy eggs when they ate breakfast. >> susan i want to push back before i go to jonathan for the next question. we had olivia julián on the show. she is now raised more than $2 million. she's just got into it for food with matt gates. she has raised money for abortion access. i feel like that does show that may be issues like abortion and climate would motivate, and maybe like somebody like you,

who knew i know is brilliant but maybe a bit jaded, about whether or not the younger voters are going to turn out. what do you say to that, susan? >> those are two huge motivated issues. there is no doubt. especially abortion. with 50% of this country having their rights taking away, i think it should be a huge motivating factor. but again, we still have to use history as a little bit of our caution. and also i think that, while the money being raised is great, and it is not hard to -- money is available to candidates, and i'm happy that people are giving on the issue of choice. but at the end of the day the people who tend to show up, especially in the midterm elections. and that's the other, thing this is not a presidential election. this is a midterm elections. it is a lot harder to turn out what we call non-primary voters. >> jonathan, quickly. you and susan are going to stay for the next block, but i wanted to bring a quick question to you before that you

break. as i, said are twitter followers said that the desire to preserve democracy has been driving the boat. you mentioned this could be a call to action. after a summer filled with stunning revelations for the january six committee, how important will this issue be, come the fall midterms? these 16 public hearing disclosures? >> they lend a stench to the republican party, which is not helpful to them. there are some real indications that this will not be a red wave election. i've got a lot of polling data on my substack newsletter, which is very encouraging for the democrats. a real decoupling of president biden's anemic approval ratings, and what they think of this congressional election. we were talking about young voters. abortion is a huge issue for younger voters. it is not obstruction for them. they want to be able to do family planning and have control over their own reproductive rights.

they do not want to have somebody stopping them at the state line if they want to go somewhere else for an abortion. this issue is resonating out through the economy, and the power of the democracy issue is that it gives a moral push to the democrats, to get this maga hangover, as it has been called. which drove the last three elections, the democrats won the popular vote. and did extremely well in congress in 2016, 2018, and 2020. because of a dislike of donald trump. that factor is still present. many democrats believe he is a threat to democracy. and most important, many democratic activists are going to push for that turner, are really really concerned that we cannot trust republicans.

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carson gibbs promises to push the same conservative agenda in congress, a hard line against immigrants at the border, and so-called patriotic education in our schools. >> so that i had from the democratic congressional campaign committee is made to look like the ad attacking house president jon gibbs in michigan. when you actually listen to what the ad is saying, it is clearly trying to attract right-wing voters in the state. people believe that the dccc is trying to boost gibbs and the primary, believing that he would be easier to beat than peter meijer. who voted to impeach donald trump for his role in the january 6th attack. you could make the argument that if the trump win in the party is going to elevate these extreme candidates, that this is the best way for democrats to respond. but is this a wise strategy or an unnecessary risk? let's bring back my panel, jonathan, and it must be silly political candidates del percio, political strategist and msnbc political analyst as well. susan, i'm gonna take this

first question to you. that michigan primary is coming up in just a couple days. do you think this is actually a sound strategy? >> i think it is a very dangerous strategy, because there's using broad strokes. if you want to get involved with somebody else's primaries, which is a very tricky thing to do, you had better do it surgically. and you tend to do it by going after the other candidate in such a way that it really hits home into the district. not just in this maga way. i have been a lot longer running the saying that the best chances the democrats have of keeping the house in the senate is for a republicans to win primaries. but i'm not sure that democrats providing lynn is the way to go. and let me just throw this other thing out here. it is a very dangerous strategy, pushing putting up extreme candidates like this. because we do not know with the economy is going to look like in november. we see things turning for the democrats favor. which i hope the democrats to

keep the house in the senate. because i believe in going to governance. but one wrong, change you are going to have this guy, as a member of congress. to me that is too dangerous of a risk for our country. >> jonathan, what message does the send to the country that they don't think we have to boost a extreme candidate as a winning strategy, versus just boosting their own internal party candidate? >> they will do the ladder, katie, but i agree with susan. i think this is not only a potentially dangerous strategy, it is just a bad look for the democratic party. democrats are supposed to be about protecting democracy from these far-right extremists. who, you know, basically they are authoritarians. they're a war on, and they're having the dictator of hungry speak at their convention. these people do not believe in our system.

and you can't play with fire that. way this particular case, the case of a major seat, it will probably work with the democrats because of redistricting. therefore, that district is now more democratic, significantly more democratic. and if they get this maga opponents, it could be a pickup for democrats, insisting they are going to lose in some other areas, it does quite likely contribute to them holding, possibly holding the house. but it is still too risky and just wrong as an approach. >> susan, let's time out a little bit, you've got to think the republican leadership is worried about some of their candidates in these key races. for example, doctor oz in pennsylvania, herschel walker in georgia. how could democrats use those particular candidates and their repeated blunders to their advantage? we've seen people like john fetterman using very clever video on social media as an effective tool, for example. >> the candidates, the

republican candidate you just mentioned, are horrible. they are a prime example of them on their own winning their primaries and putting forward the most maga looney tunes trumpist candidates in a moderate state like pennsylvania, because there are still democrats who would win there. it was a huge mistake for us to even run. but again, fetterman is doing it smart. he is using clever us, going after odds where it really hurts. and the other thing is that fetterman is pennsylvania. he is that, state and when you look for j.d. vance, the democrats attacking him for not being high enough, where you have tim bryant giving such an impassioned speech on microchips passage of legislation, he is meant for ohio. these candidates, the democrat candidates are running really smart races. against their opponents.

again, in a surgical way that is making a difference. >> so, jonathan, very quickly, i have less than 30 seconds. i want to start with you guys so much longer. do you think that we have become to echo chamber? it would become too entrenched, too siloed, on both sides of the aisle? because i feel like as we go into these november midterms, people are paying attention to some of these races, but i do not think there are still giving at the attention of the needs in terms of a more organic and holistic way of looking at what is happening. >> i think it is a good point, katie. you do have to remember that we are still a ways out from the election. and i think the intensity of the midterm elections might resemble presidential election years more than other midterms, as we get closer. because feelings are really running high about american politics. and i think you will see a pretty strong turnout in november, which will help the democrats not necessarily have

a hole in the house of representatives, but very, quite possibly, holding the senate and making it competitive. the red wave is now over. >> my thanks to the, panel i wish we had more time always. jonathan alter and susan del percio, thank you for your time as always. control the senate for could very well come down to key races in just five states. some of the highest states are in georgia, where there is no shortage of drama when it comes to gop extremism when sex and voter access. we'll talk to the ceo of the new georgia project, and get the information about voters there are saying. get that next. that next. ♪♪♪ my name is austin james. as a musician living with diabetes, fingersticks can be a real challenge. that's why i use the freestyle libre 2 system.

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evenly. later, 21 republican construct streets are up for election. according to the koch report, control the upper chamber is likely to come down to just four ridings in pennsylvania, wisconsin, arizona, -- and georgia, one of the most anticipated showdowns. back in january 2021, raphael warnock narrowly edged out his opponents and became -- the state's first black senator. this year he is back on the ballot to get a six-year term, and is facing off against herschel walker. and yet another critical race

democrat abrams is facing a rematch against brian kemp. polling shows these races will be neck and neck. meanwhile, the state is home to a dramatic january six criminal probe, with fani willis investigating trump's role and possible 2020 election interference. it is also worth noting, as well, the georgia as some of the most restricted voting laws, put in place by gop lawmakers last year. all of this to say, georgia's high stakes. joining me now to break all of this down is the ceo of the new georgia product, and say who sought. and say, good morning. you were on the ground in georgia. you were talking to these voters. i lay that a lot of things there in the intro, but whether you specifically hearing from the people in georgia? one is the most important issue for them? what's gonna make them go vote in november? >> good morning, katie, thank you for having me.

i think that -- we have the benefit of having literally millions of high quality face to face conversations with georgians every year. some themes are enduring. georgia has denied having access to all of the affordable health care. and by the way, we are still on the middle of a pandemic. we currently have state leadership that has not always been truthful about what -- had been known to keep ourselves safe. it is particularly egregious when you think about the fact that brian kemp, georgia's governor, is the only senator that lives and works with in the cdc. so georgians have been thinking ahead to keep themselves, safe keep their family safe. and that they're focused in their minds on the credible threat of death. i will also add that the minimum rage in georgia is -- and that the federal minimum wage is 7:25. as we talked about inflation, and as the cost of living.

food, gas, it's afra. this is a kitchen table, issue a pocketbook issue, which is present at the front of many georgians minds. i also think that there is an underlying threat, it could appear very wonky. but the idea of democracy and how we govern ourselves, how we self govern, who we sent to washington, d.c., who we send to atlantic to the peoples were. but unlike a lot of places in the country and unlike the conventional political wisdom, georgians are tuned into it because of gop bad behavior. that we witnessed over the past couple of years. >> and so, your organization is prioritizing voter access because, frankly let's be true about the reality, if i want to vote but i can't vote that is going to impede me from doing. it according to npr nearly 2 million voters in florida have seen their travel times in a drop box increase, compared to the 2020 election, thanks to a

new law. quote, 90% of those voters live in cities or suburbs which are home to some of the states minority voters, who are voting heavily democratic. what are you doing to counter the impact of these particular voting restrictions? >> in this moment we do not have a passport as it relates to laws. legislation, the legislature, the georgia legislature sutter is a part-time session. they are done. we cannot come back until january. as it relates to courts, we are looking at a rogue supreme court that is hell-bent on overturning multiple decades of precedent. and the federal courts that are in tons of trouble, that are not thinking about democracy in this moment. and so our key track tactic in this moment is to make sure that we have overwhelming participation in our elections, so that we can make sure that the will of the people is reflected in the results of the elections. and that means a voter

education, that means combatting misinformation and disinformation. that is poisoning the information wells. we george's learn what is actually happening in the world around us what is happening with government. i think we are leaning into technology leaning into culture. and we are talking about the idea that there are things that we can win in this moment, that georgia has defied conventional political wisdom before, and that we can start to do it again. the earlier panel in your earlier segment was focusing on this really unique and super strategic effort by the democrats to support pro trump republicans in their primaries. we are prioritizing turning out the base. because you need people to vote for you just as you are trying to minimize the impact of your opponents. and so that is where -- our, and where we're going to spend the bulk of our time,

energy, and efforts. great. and so you fought thank you for joining us this morning. we look at georgia carefully, obviously. a quick programming, note to more stu kornacki returns to the big board to break down the senate and governors races this election season. watch decision 2020 to count down to the midterms, tomorrow at 10 pm eastern only on msnbc. and coming up here, the president's party almost always sustains a brutal defeat in the midterm elections. but could democrats defy the odds in 2022? we will talk to presidential historian alan look went on how history could change, or. not this time around. that is next on our special midterms hour. you are watching the katie phang show. we will be right back. we will be right back. s a miro to brainstorm. “shoot it?” suggests the scientists. so they shoot it. hmm... back to the miro board. dave says “feed it?” and dave feeds it. just then our hero has a breakthrough.

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gop extremism. problematic senate candidates like herschel walker out of georgia. and the lingering presence of donald trump. professor, do you agree that the current state of the gop could costs them this fall? or will we see some similar exceptions that we saw in 1998 and 2002? >> i am not going to make an absolute prediction. here but the republicans do seem to be quite determined to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. as you say, midterms are toxic for the party holding the white house. because it gives their opponents a chance to register their discontent. and we are buried by inflation. joe biden's numbers are extremely low. but republicans have not taken advantage of it. they have no plans of their own to solve any of the nation's problems. they are going to the far-right extreme. as you, say particularly in the

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