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act. so there manchin appeared on all the major talk shows today, explaining and defending aspects of the bill. . >> we take a 3.5 trillion of spending down to 4.5 billion without taking in any taxes whatsoever. we have close loopholes and raise the taxes. i make sure we scrub. this this is not a tax increase. the talks were used to be a 35% in 2017. the corporate tax rate. it went to 21, 14% reduction. unbeknownst to me there were people not paying any taxes whatsoever. these are the largest corporations in america, of a billion dollars of value. and we just said that it should be a 15% minimum? >> republican senator bill cassidy pushed back on manchin's claims about whose taxes will be raised. >> taxes will be raised almost 17 billion dollars within the first year, on those who are
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making less than $200,000. and the percent of taxes raised for individuals increases overtime for the middle class and the lower income. they are raising taxes on people who make less than $10, 000, according to the joint committee on taxation. >> new reaction from a source close to arizona senator kirsten sinema, nbc news is reporting to sources that sinema is not upset she was not included in negotiations on the bill. adding, it is interesting and notable that the tax permissions he consistently opposed has now appeared in the bill. my colleague jonathan capehart just asked one congresswoman if sinema would take it. >> no. >> as a result? >> you see the very confidently. >> she is enjoying the news while giving heartburn to every democrat, and she is enjoying being talked about. she is not gonna make a full break for the democratic party. but when you're talking it is 14 billion dollars of a massive deal of 800 billion. and she is not going to stop
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appropriate taxes on people earning private equity. >> meanwhile, house speaker nancy pelosi says she is beginning her trip to asia today. but taiwan is currently not on her list of planned spots. she's leading a delegation of democrats, it says she plans to stop in singapore, malaysia, south korea and japan. and it is now 100 days to the midterm elections. we have a team of correspondents and guests to cover the big races. starting this hour, reporting for, us nbc's aly rafael on the capitol. more there at the white house. let's start with, you ali. what do lawmakers say about this inflation production act, today and what more are we learning about where senator sinema stands on it? >> yes, lindsey. the lawmaker we heard the most from with senator joe manchin, as you mentioned. going on every single one of the top sunday morning shows. and that is where he made a very public pitch to his colleague senator sinema, for why he says she soaked should support this bill. remember, we have not heard from kyrsten sinema since the bill was. announced the last word from
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her spokesperson said she was still reviewing. it but we know that she has been vehemently opposed to that closed interest loophole. that is something that senator manchin defended keeping in the spell. he said that it is his argument for why he thinks it does not raise taxes. and he really explain why some i should still back. it listen to how he made an appeal to her this morning. >> she basically insisted that no tax increases, we've done that. she was very adamant about that. i know i support and i agree with her. she was also very instrumental in making sure that we are drug prices that medicare could compete on certain drugs to bring it down to that there wouldn't be an impact on individuals. on medicare across. she is doing all of this. she is a tremendous amount of impact input on this piece of legislation. and i like think to think should be her hero towards it. but i respect you, decision from a current decision based on context. >> now we know sinema has the
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power to either pass or sink this bill, because we know senator majority leader chuck structure is not going to rely on any gop support for this. so in this 50/50 senate's he not only needs all senate democrats to be physically present to vote for this. he needs all of them to support. it manchin was on the sunday show this morning really talking about the participation that sinema had in past versions of this bill. asked pieces of. it and saying that she should really back up because it includes so many other dimensions of what she wanted to include. manchin saying that he has not tried to lobby cinema specifically, but he has faith that she will eventually support it, saying that the carried interest loophole she opposes represents just 14 of the bills almost 700 billion dollars, lindsey. >> all right allie raffa. thank you so much. we want to get to more from nbc there at the white house, where biden is back in isolation after that second positive covid test. a rebound case.
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more, how is the president doing? >> the last we heard from his doctors for militarization tested positive again. just yesterday afternoon. in that letter at details that the president did not have any new symptoms. did not have a reemergence of symptoms. and we did see a video tweeted by the presidents account where he was speaking to the camera, and he said he felt fine. that he had work to do with his dog commander by his side. and he sounded okay. but president biden has restarted his isolation here at the white house. and that is putting a major pause on his plans to get back out on the road ahead of the midterms. >> this week's presidential victory lap. >> my symptoms were mild. my recovery was great. and i'm feeling great. >> no halted with a rebound positivity after biden was treated with the anti viral paxlovid. according to a letter from his doctor. the president is not experiencing a reemergence of symptoms. >> i'm feeling fine. i'm feeling good. >> he will isolate at the white
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house until he tests negative. the cdc guidance recommends at least five additional days of isolation. this roadblock is coming amid potential challenges abroad, with house speaker nancy pelosi leading a congressional delegation to asia. with a tentative stop in taiwan, according to a source who are viewed her itinerary. >> i don't ever talk about why, travel because some of you know it is a security issue. >> china opposes taiwan's independence, and warned of strong measures of the visit happens. their military conducted live fire military exercises off of taiwan's coast on saturday. and in an hour deleted tweet, unofficially so seated with chinese state media so the china's has the right to shoot down pelosi's a plane. >> now, speaker pelosi released a statement overnight detailing some of her trip. but she didn't specifically say that she was not going to taiwan. a source familiar with her itinerary had originally told nbc before they trip that taiwan was listed as tentative. so there is still confusion
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over whether that will or will not happen. throwing in some foreign troubles for the president as well as those domestic issues with the policies that ally was laying out. we are three months until the midterms. so the democrats really need this legislative win, especially given that we are seeing the president's approval rating, the lowest of any first term president. she was planning on visiting michigan to celebrate the chips act on tuesday. obviously, that travel has now been canceled because he will be isolating, and he needs to test negative again before he get back on the campaign trail. lindsey. >> all right dr., burns thank you for setting out for us. let's dive into this rather with peter baker, chief white house correspondent of the new york times. so peter, we just told more talk about that plan to michigan to celebrate an investment in computer production here at home. is there going to be a broader impact of this rebound case on the politics that are playing right now? >> well look, it is not something the white house was hoping, for obviously. you have a president who is 79, oldest present in american
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history. they are very sensitive about that, elect showing he is fit despite that, especially because he's talking it running for a second term. i think more immediately, as we just heard, he wants to get back out on the road. doing a lot of foreign travel lately, and by this point in the summer the goal was to really start traveling domestically to make the case for his fellow democrats, in the midterms. they were real soft road to hoe in the house, especially. and i think the president felt that if he'd out there and talk to the american people in a more robust way, but you can make a difference. i was that has been postponed now twice. first by the regional affection and now by this. one so that is really disappointing to him, i don't know if it really make a difference if it gets passed this ribbon relatively quickly. but certainly at this, point i think. >> let's talk about that deal between schumer and manchin. the washington post reports the democrats listed political outsiders, for example microsoft ceo bill gates, to actually call mansion, to make the case for climate investments, and also warn him
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if democrats did not seize on this rare opportunity to combat climate change. the u.s. may never have another chance at it again. how critical, and maybe unusual, is this tactic in brokering the steel? >> that is a smart politics in washington. if you can't convince somebody to go your way, you find somebody they respect you might have more influence on them. i think another person who talked to senator manchin was larry summers, because hunter manchin expressed concern about the impact on inflation of another large spending package. and treasury secretary larry summers had been one of the most outspoken warner's about the possibility of inflation last year, so i think the fact that he would soon and i told him no, i think this package that you are talking about would not make inflation worse, in fact it might make it better, might make it go down, was influential and senator manchin. that is how politics work in washington. if you can't go in the front, or front we also can. >> right now, we know democrats are waiting to see if kyrsten
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sinema will be on board. but if they do succeed in getting this bill through all the way to the presidents desk, what kind of abuse without before the architect of the midterms? >> it is a big boost, obviously. because i've been so paralyzed for so long, they looked reckless in a competent way to get this through. i think they're able to make the argument, see, where able to deliver on the things we promise. in fact, it was not as -- as originally proposed, more or less forgotten because until a couple of weeks ago, the idea was it was going to be zero. so this is obviously better than zero, it is the largest climate in investment in history in the country. that is something that biden wants to talk. about i think they have a bit of a win streak if they can get this through. as -- just mentioned, the semiconductor building just passed. it is possible to pass a bill that will caught a fire at least protect same-sex marriage. in case the supreme court would you try to take that away. they have a few of these under their belt. that would make someone of a
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difference. but still, the biggest point in the fall election is going to be the economy. and we have to hope is that inflation begins to plateau and maybe come down, so they can make their argument with the policies it is starting to have an effect, even if they will not fully get there by november. >> turning to foreign policy, we know that house speaker pelosi published the itinerary for that asia trip today. no mention of taiwan. do even a sense in which way the white house wants her to go? >> i think it is pretty clear the white house would just assume that you would not go to taiwan. the white house worries that this would be unnecessarily provocative and a time when -- there was already confrontation with russia over the war in ukraine. the idea of having a second front of geopolitical conflict in asia would be poorly time from the white house's point of view. you, know speaker pelosi is the head of a separate and coequal branch of government. it is one thing biden has emphasized, even in his conversation with president xi jinping and china. he does not control congress. he does not control speaker pelosi. he can do what you. wants the way cases every day
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that they are not making any pronouncements about whether they should or shouldn't go. i think the challenge at this point is, i've been with the implication that she is going to go, if he doesn't go, the question is does that then just assume that they would not send it to china either. in trying to force the united states to back down? >> real quick, i talked to -- about this this weekend. he said it was an unforced error on the part of the speaker's office. do you agree? >> there are definite people who would say that. she had already said in april that she was going to go. i think, though, because of covid. it did not cause the speaker fought with china. so you have to wonder why china is more reactive to it now, months later. >> all right, peter baker, thank you so much. 100 days to the midterms, and so much at. stay the balance of power in the senate at the house, and less than 48 hours to go until voting begins, when a critical abortion vote in kansas. but first, a quick look at why you watch us.
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kerry lake is leading her point by 12%. the gop senate primary, there is nearly 12% difference between black masters and his closest challengers. meanwhile, in michigan, trump's canada tries to take on governor whitmer has taken the lead in that gop primary by seven points. throughout the, day msnbc reporters will be on the ground in these key states have the primaries. so let's go ahead to nbc's shaquille brewster in marshall michigan. what are you hearing from voters there? >> well, you are hearing that they are watching this election extremely closely, especially those republican voters. in that race to take on democratic governor gretchen whitmer. this isn't a race it has been chaotic nearly from the start. the former front-runner of the race was booted off the ballot after issues with signatures for the petition to get that name on the ballot. there was also spending. high dollar spending from democratic groups, in this republican primary race. and then we had president trump,
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former president trump, endorsing tutor jackson yesterday. coming with that late endorsement just days before election day. i've been talking to a lot of folks, hear a lot of republican voters, and they've been saying that endorsement is something they will be thinking about as they go into the voting booths, some saying it does not matter what they say, they want to do whatever they feel is right, despite what they feel about him. many republicans still say they support him and back him and would vote for him again. but it is definitely a factor as they head into the voting booth on tuesday. one other thing that we are seeing, as if that wasn't enough drama, we also have this really competitive race for michigan's third congressional district. you have the trump backed primary challenger john gibbs, trying to unseat peter meijer. he is one of the ten republicans who voted for trump's impeachment, after the january 6th insurrection. john gibbs, if you look at polling and listen to his campaign, he may feel as if he
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is coming into election day with a lot of momentum, they feel like they will be able to and see my or. that is something that voters are also paying attention to. i spoke to one lady who told me that, despite the fact that she does not feel that would happen on january six was an insurrection, she says she will still back meyer, because she likes him and his positions on certain other local issues. a lot of nuance here in michigan, but the bottom line is that this is a race that voters say they are paying a lot of attention to, and we know a lot of money has been spent on the races in the primary battles that you are seeing here in michigan. lindsey? >> shock brewster in michigan. thank you so much. we want to turn to michigan, where on tuesday voters will be the first to vote with abortion rights since the supreme court court overturned roe v. wade. ice is going to be another test of whether abortion access will be a motivating factor to get people to those polls. doctor burns joins us now from planned parenthood in overland park, kansas. what do you hearing from people there? >> yes lindsey. i am standing in front of one
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of just five abortion clinics in the state of kansas. but recently it became one of the few abortion clinics in this entire region. after the supreme court overturned roe v. wade, and many of the surrounding states very quickly enacted all it abortion bans, and the providers here in kansas say that they have been flooded with calls ever since, many of them coming from's those surrounding states. so the states are especially high here, because kansas has become this island of abortion access for this entire region here, and the fight here on tuesday is over the value of both amendments. back in 2019 the kansas state supreme court ruled that abortion access is a constitutional right in the state of kansas. this amendment would remove that constitutional protection for abortion. and you said it there lindsay. this is going to be a huge, test not only a voter sentiment for abortion, but also just how big of a motivating factor this is. how much voters are engaging with this issue. and i will tell you as we've
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been on the ground here, we have met multiple people who are going out and canvassing for the first time. both on the vote yes and early vote no side of this issue. i want to take a listen to some of the conversations we have had. >> i feel what is at stake right now is not only the unborn babies that their lives could be taken, but also the mother's. this amendment will say both babies and mothers from lives of hurt and the shame they may carry. >> one of the criticisms of the process here is that this amendment is on the primary ballot, and not on the general. and the primary tonight tends to be lower, it tends to be more conservative, so that is an additional obstacle for abortion rights activists. but i tell you, lindsey everywhere you look here in kansas, it is hard to avoid seeing signs, seeing during, oscars seeing people that are out and engage with this issue. so it is going to be a big day on tuesday, not just for kansas
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but for the entire nation, so many other states are going to have ballot measures and important elections that will impact abortion rights all across the country. lindsey. >> certainly, dasha burns and shaquille brewster, thank you both so much. are all day coverage of the 100 days to the midterms includes i'm when you go special and what's at stake this november. don't miss that on eight eastern. tomorrow at ten, the one only steve kornacki returns to the big board to break down the key races that could determine the fate of congress. it is the ultimate coverage in the midterms, and you are only going to get it on our so easy. it has to be the last thing they want to think about, next, why life is getting a bit more comfortable these days, with former members of trump's cabinet. cabinet.
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officials warn that search and rescue efforts going to take weeks. and they will be hampered by heavy rain and flash flooding which is possible in some of the hardest hit areas, today through tomorrow morning. nbc's maggie bass joins us from kentucky. maggie, what have you seen today? >> well, lindsay, as you can see, the lesson people need, that you just spoke, to is rain. the water has received a bit behind, as the showers that you mentioned in the threat of flash flooding here are the information. already everybody here on edge. talking about the rescue, those are stocking up rapidly. continue around the clock. we have national guards from three states here, kentucky and of course west virginia and tennessee. more than 600 rescues by aaron buyouts. reporters yesterday, already. that is undoubtedly soaring. especially given the ominous nature of this forecast. we have flash flood alerts in place through tomorrow morning, at least. with that extra rain on the way. you are obviously very anxious.
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the governor of kentucky, and you bashir, speaking to that. take a listen. >> it's raining. i am about two hours from the first hard-hit county. and it is really raining. you will continue to rain throughout the day. our toll right now is at 26, and there are several additional bodies that are going to grow with the level of water, many of them swept hundreds of yards, maybe a quarter mile plus from where they were lost. just those four children, you find a couple more as well. >> the governor there speaking to for children who are among the 26 dead. they went to not county and they were sold as a, as young as two. more siblings, for just confirmed, were swept away in the floodwaters. unimaginable grief here, with
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more rain on the way. some of the hardest hit areas later on today, with the state wasn't live here in kentucky. they coordinate with the feds, providing aid to people here. the main focus right now is on those rescue and recovery efforts, which can continue as fast as possible. especially given the rural nature of this area. it is tough to get to a lot of areas, electricity and running water coming down. rescuers scrambling around the clock, here just knowing that more rain floods could be on the way. >> maggie vesta, thank you. you want to turn now to new reports on the january six committee, that there are negotiations to interview for members of donald trump's cabinet. the committee already spoke to steve mnuchin and mulvaney. the associated press say that they ask nomination about -- to possibly invoke the 25th amendment, to remove trump from the attack after the capitol.
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joining me, now to mull, ryan msnbc political analyst and bloomberg contributor. he's also the author of trump nation, the art of being donald. this is a topic you know very well. trump always manages to rig a lot of trouble over the years. but this time it is not his private company. public officials have legally constitutional duties. and he can't police rings here. does this feel different to you? >> i think it is different, lindsey. in terms of the consequences. donald, trump as a new york businessman. or donald trump is a rally -ology tv celebrity, is a support of the world and donald trump as president of the united states. so the consequences of his actions are more severe. i think that the castro that he has wriggled out over the years has some grounding, but the reality is, prosecutors never really went after him hard in earlier years. he got investigated by the justice department in the early 1970s, for discrimination at the family's housing complexes.
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and they did not regulated. that. they settled. but there were penalties. in atlantic city, in new york city, his businesses were never investigated with any sense of real purpose. by federal investigators. when he became president, that changed. he, did in my view, wriggle passed the ball more investigation. but i also think that robert mueller decided not to pursue, unfortunately, more serious avenues of inquiry. particularly around his financial dealings. i think he is facing right now, i think the mastication in georgia is a very serious one. there is hard evidence there, there is a tape recording of him trying to overturn the results of election. and i think the january six committee investigation, the consequences of that, i think also should have federal law enforcement consequences. i think right now it is up to merrick garland as to whether not he wants to take the obvious crimes, the about
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crimes, that the january six committee has surfaced, and turned it into a prosecution. at the end of the day i do not think it is a legal decision for him. i think the legal merits of it are clear. it is whether not he can prosecute trump in the courtroom, or convince it of the crimes. and how the political nature of that kind of a prosecution would play out publicly. but i think those are risks you should take. >> mike pompeo said he is considering talking to the committee about possibly testifying. do you think trump is rattled by these senior members of his administration cooperating? >> i can't get inside his head. not completely. but trump has always believed in unwavering loyalty. he is usually one way street, he never goes to people around him as much loyalty as he expects. and i think through most of his presidency that was a pretty firm wall. you don't think he saw many people in his inner circle, they quit before they really decide to wrap it out. and trump rewarded some of them,
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like roger stone, with pardons. i think the work of the january six committee has convinced those sort of, people like mnuchin and pompeo. to decide to testify. he is unfortunately very late in the process. but i think they took their cues from people like bill barr, from conservative republicans like liz cheney, who decided to partake in that process because it has merit. because trump tried to stage a coup. and i think the substance of what the committee appears to be asking mnuchin and pompeo and others about, betsy devos to i believe, is whether not there were so lumber would happen on january six so they wanted to invoke the 25th amendment, and force trump's removal from office. so he has to be rattled by that, because these are people in the, past we'll venues another, who never would have publicly gone on the other side against him. >> you mentioned. stone the washington post got exclusive access for mediators
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documentary film hugh capturing mike gates on a hot night reassuring stone that he would get a pardon after he was waiting for his obstruction charges. let's watch some of it. >> >> so we should mention, nbc news has not verified this video yet. it appears to open and, that we don't know it took place before and after. but matt gates told the post he was not speaking at trump's behalf during that conversation. roger stone did not address questions from the post about
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this. that's him, does this offer a glimpse of any private fears of legal trouble among some of these cosmonauts of trump? >> i think it has to, lindsey. this is a pretty extraordinary bit of audio. because remember the, time in 2019, one of the things that robert mueller was investigating was obstruction of justice. by members of the trump administration. who were trying to throw roe watson in front of the fbi examination, of whether or not the trump campaign in 2015 in 2016 came into possession of leaks emails. from the dnc, that wikileaks and julian assange had acquired. and as it turned out, stone was lying about that. they infected. trump never got prosecuted for that. and stone essentially went to the maps and did not say anything about trump. and before his three-year prison sentence even began, trump pardoned him. then you have mac matt gates, essentially, obstructing justice in order to prevent
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obstruction of justice investigation. i do not think there is any other way to read that. so i think that gates has some exposure here. and it certainly is a very damning bit of audio for trump's inner circle, and for trump himself. >> tim o'brien, we'll have to leave it there. thank you so much for that. >> thank, you. lindsey >> using pain as a punchline? case brandeis me next for his take on samuel alito's recent comments about roe v. wade that sparked a firestorm ha sparked a firestor with technology that can scale across all your clouds... it's easier to do more innovative things. [whistling] ♪ well the sun is shining and the grass is green ♪ ♪ i'm way ahead of schedule with my trusty team ♪ ♪ there's heather on the hedges ♪ ♪ and kenny on the koi ♪ ♪ and your truck's been demolished by the peterson boy ♪ ♪ yes -- ♪ wait, what was that?
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about both of these issues. he joins me now. hayes, let's talk about this forward party. he does not have any specific policies yet, but you think offering a vague middle ground who will appeal to just how this fight? people or do you or i can actually help fringe candidates by siphoning votes away? >> the louder, for sure. forward, name with this new group formed by andrea yang, anchor oops by former republicans. it wants its claim for the middle, for the center. but in trying to take the middle from democrats and republicans, they are looking at the fringe of both, without taking to account the what was formerly the fringe on the right has control of the republican party. which is not the case on the left. the democrats are not, despite winning many midterm commercials have said the cycle, not in the hands of the far less. like aoc, they have influence. especially because a house majority is so small right now
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for democrats. but they are not at the rains, they are not in control the way the far-right is. trying to make a middle ground between those two, when they are doing is really highlighting that the middle is still further to the right than a lot of when we would have considered centrist policies in the 19 90s. >> i want to go to samuel alito's or remarks. the justice wasn't room for a conference on religious freedom. he's not back at those who criticize the overturning overall. let's look a little bit of what he said. >> i had the honor this terms of waiting, i think the only supreme court decisions in the history of that institution that has been lambasted by a whole struggle from leaders. one of these was foreign prime minister boris johnson. he paid the price. what's really wounded me was when the duke of sussex
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addressed the united nations and seems to compare the decision, whose name may not be spoken, with the russian attack on ukraine. >> and you wrote that alito, rather than acknowledging the suffering into confusion thrust upon women and medical professionals, use the global outrage as a punchline. which is the say about where the supreme court is now? >> on the one hand, it is not surprising that a supreme court justice who -- the supreme court has long looked at international law and people outside the country as we heard, strange, we're not gonna discuss that. i don't even look at those laws without acknowledging that we are the -- in the world. that he is so dismissive of these complaints is not surprising. what's really was shocking to me is that he was so willing to use their outrage as a joke. and people in the room heard what he was saying and got
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parties u.s. senate hopes at risk. here's a look at some of the more far-right gop senate candidates have been making headlines. blake masters in arizona, doctor oz in pennsylvania, j.d. vance in ohio, herschel walker in georgia. couple of these primaries are tuesday, joining me right now is don calloway, ceo of pine street strategies. susan del percio, republican strategist an msnbc political analyst. and michael -- host of the show screen share on peacock. hello to all of you. and don, of these five senate races, you can choose one, which one interesting the most and why? >> i've got to go with herschel walker. i spent some time atlanta over the last couple of weeks in it seem to me that herschel walker has reached the venerable todd aiken zone in which yes he is a look at nominee, he has won that nomination. but i don't think the reasonable republican see him as an alternative to raphael warnock who is a genuine georgian for both atlanta and
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savannah. is the legacy of being in the past for a doctor with the kings church and has done a pretty good job in the senate on a bipartisan basis. herschel walker seems to have completely been in the crazy illegitimate candidate at this point zone. i don't see him being a real threat to raphael warnock. but that said, the caveat there is -- have been on a now for your crusade to suppress votes. and that's always a factor. we can't act like it doesn't matter. even with the subpar candidate likes herschel walker. >> we're gonna talk about the georgia varies a lot more in our hour two with some recent polling suggests. but susan, same question to you. pick a race, even as the same one is don. >> i'm actually watching ohio and j.d. vance and tim ryan. and the reason i'm picking that up his ohio really should go republican. almost any other candidate could probably get it except for this basically non-ohioan in j.d. vance.
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plus he's full of love and so many things, it's hard to tell where what he really believes. but what's important also is the candidate vance is running against. tim ryan. he is ohio. we're seeing it, similarity with fetterman in pennsylvania. he's running against doctor oz. i just can't help but think that j.d. vance while he may have had the hype going in, i think he's just going to put her out. >> so sure michael, your turn, when you find most interesting in these races? >> i'm looking at two races -- former governor of missouri who went through a bit of a legal scandal. he was sort of pushed out, if you are call, lindsay by the party. now running for u.s. senate. intriguing to see if you can pull together enough republicans in swing voters to coalesce around him in order to win. i'm also looking at ohio and part because tim ryan is running a really fascinating campaign to me. on my show peacock about two weeks ago. we talked about it. and he ran an ad, he wrote he's
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running an ad -- that really showcases just how much of an independent sort of moderately leading democrat he is. most of that ad showcase clips of tim ryan on fox news, fox news host saying that he's a moderate like you and myself. he's not an uber progressive. and i thought that was really, really interesting. so i'm really curious to see how that appeal will cross over to some of the more moderate leading republicans who may not necessarily like j.d. vance's appeal, if you will. but may somewhat be open minded and okay with voting for a moderate leading them like tim ryan. >> republicans 17 with the midterms like -- it'll be a slam dunk for them and they regain a balance of power. do you think that still the case where do you think democrats have the edge? they've been racking up some legislative wins in. the gop is putting up a lot of these fringe candidates. >> the fringe candidates the gop has in the senate races is definitely a democrat advantage.
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no question. and i think that there is a very good chance of democrats hold the senate. that being said, when it comes to the house, there's only a five vote majority in the democrats right now. and when it is a midterm election, it is a referendum on the current president. for the republicans not to pick up six seats is a very unlikely. but anything can happen. we've seen the economy starting to turn around a little bit, gas prices. and maybe inflation comes down. i wouldn't bet against history on it. >> don susan said at the front candidates actually helps democrats. we've kind of seen an interesting strategy where some democratic groups of actually buying ads to boost some of these pro trump in right-wing candidates. what do you think of that strategy? >> it's not a new thing and i don't think it's a terribly bad thing. assuming that the democrats have enough money to fund their races and their primary
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candidates for the general election, i think it's i'm all for using that tactic to bolster the weekend less reasonable republican candidate. let's be clear here. at the problem is not democrats as a strategy supporting these candidates. the problem is there something deeply wrong in the heart of the primary republican electorate who is willing to elect the craziest people who say the loudest, craziest things as loud as possible for the longest time. so the idea that someone would vote for eric -- right after the uvalde he releases an ad showing him shooting of stuff. after he abused his wife and girlfriend. as governor, as a sitting governor. the idea that someone would see him as fit to be a tennessee senator is the problem. not a democratic outside group. same thing here in maryland. the idea that republicans would elect dan cox of the problem. not democrats playing within the scope of electoral rules. in supporting a weekend candidate. but i always find a funny how democrats are slap on the wrist until be polite, the ethical,
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play by the rules. by folks who are literally trying to print out democracy every day. so i have no problem with democrats doing a little bit to bolster a fringe candidate on the republican side. >> sure michael, last question to you, the washington post is listed five reasons the democrats could defy history in the midterms were putting them up on the screen for everybody. gop extremism better republican candidates we talked about that. abortion in the supreme court. the economy and trump. the latest developments making the midterms less clear cut? >> no, i mean -- with all due respect to the author of that column, i think that's ludicrous. there is no way the world democrats are going to maintain the majority in the house. there is a five seed majority, histories on the side of republicans. if you look at every single focus group from both sides, you look at all the internal polling results. it seems very clear that republicans are not going to regain control of the house. the senate is a bit different. that's why i would probably
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agree georgia is one of the races to really pay attention to. can herschel walker, they flip that seat back red. i think it's possibility. i don't know what those odds are. i think it's gonna be very, very close. probably slightly above the margin of error. but that piece, we'll understand it, i read, i disagree with it. it's not based upon the numbers. it's not based on history. can you make the argument that they can again maintain a majority senate. it's very possible. but in the house, it is not likely at all, lindsey. and so i think for many democrats, they really got if you got a way to turn their voters off specifically in states like georgia. where there are more voting restrictions that will make it more challenging for people of color to get out and vote in a way that they did in 2020. that should be the primary concern. in races like that which will indeed be close. >> don, quickly, last word to you. >> this idea that abortion is going to save the day for democrats is not going to fly. white women voted for barack obama in 2008 and have not aided progressive causes historically electorally since.
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it just doesn't make sense that there's going to be awakening of white women which is going to protect the house for democrats. it may help a little bit in the senate. but i agree with for michael and susan that the house is probably the gavel is probably out of nancy pelosi's hands moving into january. >> don calloway, sure michael singleton, susan del percio, my thanks to all of you. and in our next hour, new body camera footage and the questions facing about why a georgia woman died after being taken into police custody. ed after being taken into police custy.od taken into police custy.od is it me or does everyone auditioning for this health insurance commercial look the same? it's not you. health insurance companies see us all the same. that's not good. well, except humana. they see me. after my back surgery, humana sent a home health nurse for five days. helped me get set up, showed me how to manage my meds... ...even sent me a week's worth of healthy frozen meals. get out. good i-dea. better care begins with listening. humana. a more human way to healthcare. sadie? we really had our hands full with our two-year-old.
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