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♪♪ tonight on "the reidout" -- >> this is what democracy looks like! this is what democracy looks like. >> tell me what democracy looks like! >> this is what democracy looks like! >> tell me what democracy looks like. >> this is what democracy looks like. >> a major victory for reproductive freedom in kansas which should make republicans very nervous about the mid terms, but it was also a big night for the big lie. arizona republicans go full maga and the state's top conspiracy theorist could, could end up running the future elections. also tonight, more missing text messages, this time at the pentagon. maybe it's worth asking which text messages did not get deleted by trump officials, and speaking of text messages, did you see this? alex jones on witness stand hearing for the first time that
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his lawyers mistakenly sent years, years of his texts to the oppose counsel. oops. we begin tonight with samuel alito. the supreme court justice who played partisan god or at least thought he could when he authored the majority opinion that overruled roe. now we imagine today was a hard day for justice alito, but, no, we don't feel especially badly for him. remember, he's the one who cited in his opinion a 17th century jurist who supported marital rape and witch burning so it shouldn't surprise us at all that alito in the first public appearance gloetd over making women suffer and mocked his foreign critics during a speech he delivered in rome. >> i had the honor this term of writing i think the only supreme court decision in the history of that institution that has been lambasted by a whole string of foreign leaders.
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one of these was former prime minister boris johnson, but he paid the price. what really wounded me was when the duke of sussex addressed the united nations and seemed to compare the decision whose name may not be spoken with the russian attack on ukraine. >> who knew. the supreme court justice had jokes fit for a dystopian comedy club no less. as we often say on this show, the cruelty is the point. yet most voters in america are rejecting such cruelty. a lotoin a the conservative majority believe that they could do this to you and laugh about it. but on tuesday kansas had its own message to send, delivering a stunning fu to the right's shock and awe campaign against bodily autonomy. it was testament to abortion rights in this country in one of america's reddest states with even rubier red pockets, rural,
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conservative, maga, where voters resoundingly rejected a ballot mesh sure would have allowed lawmakers to ban abortion in the state. in much clearer terms the right to an abortion will remain in the kansas constitution, a state constitution, by the way, that in its original form was built on opposition to slavery. >> i'm super proud to be from kansas tonight, and i feel like my state showed up and boldly told me they are going to take care of me and my female friends and everyone that can get pregnant in the state of kansas. we are protected tonight. >> the vote was overwhelming. 914,000 people voted which is a massive turnout for a measure put on the ballot in august. that's about two-thirds the number of votes cast in the 2020 presidential election. the first post-roe election test proves what many of us knew. abortion rights are a poe temp mid-term issue, even a defining one, and, yes, the fight is far from over as more states will pose similar measures on their
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november primary ballots. their november ballots, but kansas has put a wrinkle in the republican plan to steal bodily autonomy from millions of us because that's what kansans showed up for yesterday, isn't it, the right to receive abortion care but the right to body will integrity to navigate with dignity, with self-ownership and self-determination, to live fully and freely. there is a rage alito and his republican peers tapped, an anger that is real and powerful. to think that women, girls, people and voters would be okay with losing their flow bombs, well, it looks loib a loto may have laughed a little too soon. joining me now is the founder of red, wine and blue which organizes suburban moms across the country and jamie mansin, president of catholics for choice here in the studio with me, and i do want to start with you because your organization, catholics for choice, jamie.
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i'm a religious person. i'm a christian. are you a catholic and there's a presumption that rose people only fall on one side of the choice issue but i grew up in the methodist church. they had a whole different idea what this meant. it was being good to immigrants and good to the poor. voting, participating in civics, that's what i heard about, not abortion, but being in the catly, church is different because it's very string. actually like this current pope, but even he's very strict. >> yeah. >> what do it mean to fight an abortion measure in your view for catholics and for religious theme kansas? >> it was a very powerful night last night. it was so wonderful to have a victory, and for us as catholics it was a david and goliath story where we had kath lick bishops put $4 million no this campaign to ensure that people don't have abortion access, and we had two very brave nuns who came out in the "kansas city star" who said
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we don't accept this. you know, we want poem to have this access, it's a matter of justice. >> and the alito thing, we talked about this a little bit before the show and i did -- it stuck in my kraut. i watched this whole 40-minute speech. the arrogance of him and the arrogance of basically thinking it's funny and also trying to put forth this idea that this country is a land of religious persecution against christians, that christians are being persecuted simply because women have the right to decide what to do with our own bodies. what did you make of his speech? >> it was very difficult to watch, you know, to see him do a victory lap in rome after this, it spoke volumes because we have this incredible overreach by catholic leaders in our civic society. they are taking away basic human rights so it's a very painful moment. >> the white evangelical churches are doing it, too. it's not just the catholics, but it's pretty distinct. i want to talk about red, wine
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and blue. thanks for being here. this fight really did span, you know, across women. i mean, the numbers are showing that 20% of republicans, you know, we don't know if they are all men or women voted no in kansas. we know that this cut across to independents. this was not a partisan issue. it was a bodily integrity issue. what do you make of the result in kansas? >> you're absolutely right. last night showed us that the votes of millions of americans can absolutely overwhelm the six extremist conservative judges. look at johnson county, one of the big possiblelous suburban counties right outside of kansas city n.2020 they voted for biden by eight point. last night they supported reproductive points by 36 points. >> wow. >> that's a 28-point gain, okay, and in johnson county, there's democrats about there's a whole lot of republicans and
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unaffiliated voters. across the state about 50% of votes in support of reproductive freedom came from republicans and unaffiliated voters. this is not just democrats. they are all over. that's just like kemp county and oakland county, so what we saw last night there's so much more to could. women are fighting back, and which are talking to our friend about it, too. >> can we put my map that my wonderful producers created. shows what states are restricted versus protected. if your state is considered a little bit restrictive it doesn't mean it's a free state. do you think this will be an issue voted onnine in rhett states. >> absolutely, and my network has opinion flird up today.
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they are energized which why they saw out of kansas last night. the truth is abortion access is truly threatened in heavily of the country and what i know from suburban women and talking about them every single day. 86% of suburban woman believe that the right to decide whether or not to have an abortion should be between the woman and the doctor. they believe you captain be for freedom and pluckily mandated issues at the same time. freedoms round threat and this isn't something that is enough the impacting some one. it's impact is all of us, so i think the consequences will be huge in november and all those saying oh, the women, legal sim earl down by this.
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this they feet -- van met anything, and jamie, which were talking about this. i think it's actually poetic that it happened in question because this state of who answer people, wrestled with the question of shapely and this can i is many who owns you. the minute you become pregnant the state can tell you what to do with it, it this is a fundamental issue for women and also cross religiouses. there's a lawsuit happening right now in florida where parents have sued over -- a 15-week banzaiing it violates religious freedom. search clermgy members, two christians, three jews, one universialist and buddhist argued in a court on monday that their ability to practice their religious faith is being vie late by the post-row abortion
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laws and the strictest in the country makes no exceptions for rape or incest. >> do you believe that him -- regulars faurn tee gives you freedom from. it's interesting, a lot of people support abortion access. they want abortion to remain legal but, you know, the strug s&l that for a lot of religious, abortion is not only supported, abortion access, but it's required, especially particularly by jews and muslims so it is an inning fringement on their religious freedom and what we see is an incredible overreach by a white christian nationalist movement trying to take away basic rights claiming that they are the ones under siege, and that's really where it's painful.
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this is how they build power. they create this battle, you know, where they are despised by the world and, you know, that is christian country and that's what god wants, and that's really what we're fighting up against, you know, and you're -- what you're saying about freedom is so important this. right to access abortion is about freedom. it's about the entire trajectory. >> absolutely. >> in a woman's life. every aspect of her life sim pacted on this, and this is how she gets freedom and she gets power. >> yeah. >> this is what this white christian nationalist, catholic nationalist movement does not want. >> they don't want, absolutely. katie, i want to come back to you for a final thought on this. this is an issue that goes beyond abortion, goes ectopic pregnancies. will you be left to bleed to death because doctors are afraid to provide this care because they will get in trouble. it goes to whether or not in vitro fertilization remains legal because a lot of people on the far right think that's abortion t.goes whether you can have contraception. there are a lot of people on the far right who think that is abortion. are women talking about those other issues, or is this just a
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matter of, nope, this is about abortion, this is about getting that particular kind of care? >> they are talking about every issue you just named every day, every minute, every hour. women are sharing deeply personal stories of how they know this decision would have impacted, really difficult decisions that they have had to make previously in their life. they know how tim packets all of their reproductive health care and they know that those decisions to make the right decisions, to make the safe decisions, they need to be able to make these decisions with their doctors and not have police or the government involved. women are sharing these stories, thousands of them, in our online communities every day and they are connecting with each other. we've 48,000 women sign up to volunteer as part of our mid-term outreach program. women are energized because -- because this is so deeply personal. >> absolutely, and for people on the far right, just look at this picture right now. you see what you're seeing right
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here. this is who owns women, women own women. we own our own bodies, and good luck trying to force us back into the 1950s or the 1850s, we ain't going. not without one hell of a fight. thank you so much both. thank you. up next, few republicans love trump more than arizona republicans and tuesday was a big, big night for trump's big lie. "the reidout" continues after this. big lie. "the reidout" continues after this ♪♪ whenever heartburn strikes get fast relief with tums. it's time to love food back. ♪ tum tum tum tum tums ♪ lily! welcome to our third bark-ery. oh, i can tell business is going through the “woof”. but seriously we need a reliable way to help keep everyone connected from wherever we go. well at at&t we'll help you find the right wireless plan for you. so, you can stay connected to all your drivers and stores on america's most reliable 5g network. that sounds just paw-fect. terrier-iffic
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last night was a big night for supporters of the big lie. what happened to you, arizona? mean, just a reminder that arizona has long been a conservative state, conservative in the old-fashioned sense of the word. maybe not so great on civil rights, immigration and guns, anti-tax, that sort of thing. it was home to the likes of barry goldwater and john mccain, but results of last night's primary makes it clear that the current arizona republican party has gone more full-tilt maga perhaps than any other in the nation which explains why the slate of trump-endorsed election deniers and conspiracy theorists have either won are or leading in every major race. kari lake who made unsubstantiated claims of election fraud is ahead by more than 11,000 votes and mark finchem would has made several attempts to decertify the election is one step closer to overseeing those elections as arizona secretary of state. joining me now is arizona's
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current secretary of state and david frum, staff writer for "the atlantic. kari lake has said lots and lots of things. she said you should be in prison over the handling of the 2020 election. she says you broke laws. she said some things that are pretty strange, but i want to play for you something she said last night because the way she won it not that different from the way biden won. the things she said you should be in jail for. she was behind in the early vote and then she caught up and went ahead because of the same-day vote and then the sort of "x" factor was the absentee vote. the same three systems that were in place for her were in place for him. she's asked if there was a little bit of irony in her stance. >> you said this election was messed up. you said there was evidence of cheating. why should voters trust that you won this election fair and
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square if elections are such a mess ? >> we have a lot of evidence and irregularities and problems and we're going to address those. >> [ inaudible ]. >> i won't release it to the fake news but will to the authorities. >> if it's real, why would wouldn't you rethese. >> i'm not going to rethese to people who say there's no fraud when there was fraud. >> has miss lake released any information that there was fraud in the current election or any evidence that you did something criminal in the previous election? >> no, she certainly has not, though she's made this obviously the central theme of her campaign. >> and so i guess the question is how -- i mean, you're the secretary of state. she is claiming that the whole process is basically broken and not trustworthy. why should any republican voters trust that she's the real nominee? >> well, i think that she's walking a very fine line here as are all of these election conspiracy theorists and
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election deniers saying our system is broken and then full heartedly accepting the results when they are the winners of of it, so quite frankly it's dangerous to our democracy. democracy is on the ballot in 2022. it's not hyperbolic to say that future of free and fair elections is on the line here, and i need folks to join me at katiehobbes.com to make sure this doesn't happen. >> david frum, i didn't agree with the politics of a john mccain at all, and i wonder if john mccain were still alive and still here would the sort of perverse incentives that are at work right now in the republican party, because it did work with him on build the wall, would even a john mccain have had to run this kind of a campaign? >> i don't think so and for this reason. what's happening in arizona. here's a state as you said was becoming a conservative state, an increasingly contested state. rise of technology, education,
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arizona is a jump ball state. one response is to try to build out your majority. >> yeah. >> and that's what john mccain did. he picked up lots of crossover votes, but the dominant fans of the republican party now has said, you know what, we're going to double down on trying to squeeze more and more juice out of an ever slinking lem op. we used to have 3/5, now we have half and we're just going to try to squeeze more and more juice with less and less lemon and something that makes '22 an interesting year for the whole country, if that strategy fails you get a better republican party. if that strategy works as candidate works, the secretary of state works, you are playing hand grenade with the american democracy. >> we have a map other that showed the election deniers nominated just for secretary of state, the position from which they have promised to do saying no matter who wins we're giving the election to trump or whoever the republican is. these account for 50 electoral
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college votes a little bit. coming back to arizona for a bit. barry goldwater, he chised the john burke strategy away. at this point they see the reverse. they what is the logic behind wrapping the republican party's arms around a hand grenade? >> it's not brain logic, it's psychic logic. obviously it doesn't make sense. obviously the right thing is to build out and go towards the middle. the out party, the part of the non-president can talk about meat prices and fuel prices there. 's a terrible crime problem in the country that got worse because of the tens of millions of guns that were acquired during covid so they have issues, and since the president's name is on the door you blame the president and the psychic reality is if you feel under throat and shoved to the margins people can sometimes
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embrace their marginalization and that's what's sglapg in your state, katie hobbes, you're running for governor, but it's a full slate race. as i see it. it's either all of you who are in the world of reality are going to win or all of the magas are going to win. it's hard to imagine a split-ticket voter who says i'll take finchem and katie hobbes. i'll take the two of you. i can't imagine that. is the state party prepared to run essentially a slate strategy to say if you put this whole crew in, you're essentially breaking arizona democracy and u.s. democracy perhaps as well? >> i mean, absolutely. we have to run this way. it's not just the governor's office or the secretary of state office or the attorney general's office. we have -- there's too much at stake in the to focus on all of these races and, again, because of the damage that can be done to our democracy. these folks are not based in reality, and honestly i don't know how poem take them
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seriously as candidates outside of their -- of their base. >> then how did they -- the thing is that the base of the republican party is choosing these folks. they are not being forced to. they have choices among people and in this case they have chosen all of the trump people. does that mean that there is enough of a base do you think beyond the primary to elect these people to office in november? >> roughly a third of the electorate in the arizona are no-party affiliated voters. they will decide this election, and i've spent this campaign and i'll continue to talking to voters, democrats, republicans and independents, about the real issues that we face, protecting reproductive health care, contrasting my stance on that with the extreme positions of my opponent whoever that ends up being, and -- and talking about how we work together to tackle the tough issues that our state
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is facing and that's how we win those voters. >> it does sound like your opponent is going to be kari lake, perhaps sometimes each though it sound like she's speaking from another plante. thank you both. more missing text messages. this time from the pentagon. coincidence? we'll be right back. from the pe. coincidence? we'll be right back. and consumes, replacing thought with worry. but one thing can calm uncertainty. an answer. uncovered through exploration, teamwork, and innovation. an answer that leads to even more answers. mayo clinic. you know where to go. we just moved. so there's millions of - dahlias in bloom. over nine acres. when we started, we grew a quarter of an acre. now i'm taking on new projects on the regular. there are millions of ways to make the most of your land.
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6th insurrection are missing, conveniently, from a third government agency. this time it's the department of defense. texts and e-mails from top pentagon officials who would have been in charge of mobilizing the national guard, including former defense secretary christopher miller and army secretary ryan mccarthy, but also other more controversial figures like last-minute pentagon appointee and trump loyalist kash patel. former pentagon chief of staff. according to a federal court filing, the pentagon and the army said that when an employee leeves the pentagon and turns in their phone, the phone is wiped and text messages from around the attack were, quote, not preserved and, therefore, could not be searched. the government watchdog group american oversight sued for the records and is asking attorney general merrick garland to open an investigation into the pentagon's failure. senate judiciary committee chair dick durbin has also called on garland to investigate wiped texts from the cbs seek and the department of homeland security. the investigation into missing secret service texts is now a
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criminal investigation. top democrats want the trump-appointed dhs inspector general to step aside from that investigation since he knew about the erased texts months, months he told congress. joining me now is former white house chief ethics lawyer during the george w. bush administration and professor of law at the university of minnesota and a former federal prosecutor. richard, i'll start with you. michael beschloss said i thought an 18.1-minute gap was a big deal. ch these rorsz are essential if we want to keep our democracy. it does not seem possible for it to be coincidence, at least to me, that three agencies delighted, you know, wiped their phones and didn't think to preserve the records from january 5-9-ant 6th. does it seem possibly coincidental to you? >> doesn't sound coincidental to me. it sounds intensional, and i
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will tell you exactly what i told the white house. i was the chief executes in 2005 and about preservation about governor records. it is a felony to engaining in concealment, movement or mutilation of any government record. that is a fellsy, and every white house instructs its staff as well as the agencies that when you leave the government or other communications you can remove from the premises or your personal communications about your personal business, not the response to january 26, 2021 or any other official document. this is a felony upped numerous statutes. i heard rumors that there was going to be destruction of government document in the trump is administration at the end of
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the trump administration within days. election, and i wrote an op-ed outlining all the statutes letting people know iffy destroy the government records, including mentions, you will go to jay. now we also have obstruction of justice because once january 26th, 2020 happened, we mow were was the obstruction of justice in this bun i suspect that they both order. >> this came from the white house and perhaps the president of the united states himself. >> it's not as if the trump administration had a good history when it came to preserving records. the january 6th given to the white house, seven-hour gap in the trump phone calls that day.
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the nag archives has said that trump took 15 boxes, 15 boxes of white house records to mar-a-lago in florida. trump flushed or simply lost documents, including allegedly wallowing some of them. the white house is -- had refused to release its visitor logs from the very beginning. that's from january of 2017 on. they have always been secretive. they have never handed over records. this is a pattern, and so to you as a recall foreprosecutor could it fiesta bowl be just a coincidence that no one thought to preserve the records from the 5th and the 6th, from these three agencies before allowing the phones to be wiped? >> well, joy, i think the more that we look at this, it becomes increasingly obvious that it's not likely to be coincidental nor accidental, that you have three agencies where these messages are missing from the same time pier. this certainly appears to be a very intensional effort, and i
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think that in many respects it's a gamble that officials were taking because in most cases prosecutors are not necessarily going to pursue something like this under normal circumstances. had january 6th been not, it is not likely that the doj is bound to open up a hunk investigation in trying to ascertain the intentional destruction of certain records, but because january 6th did happen, now you have something that is monumental and historic and of such a huge magnitude that the doj is almost compelled to look into it vis-a-vis a criminal probe, so i think that's issue here. normally something of this nature, even though it is criminal, might not rise to the level of getting prosecutors' attention, but given all implications that it has in this case with respect to january 6th and everything that may have taken place to cover up what we don't even know because we haven't seen the text messages, it becomes much more imperative that the doj make a priority.
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>> very quickly i'm going ask each of you, first starting with you, charles, the significance in your view of pat cipollone being subpoenaed by a grand jury. >> well, it doesn't look good for trump, i'll tell you that much. i think it's very clear that the doj is focusing their efforts on trying to identify as much as they can. people who have direct knowledge of trump's abss and thoughts and can give them as much information as possible. it does remain to be seen, however, how cipollone will cooperate with the grand jury subpoena. remember, when he testified from the january 6th committee there were a number of different provisions that helped him avoid executive privilege. >> richard painter, what do you make of the ethics of his need to be subpoenaed in order to turn over documents about an insurrection against our country? >> it's abundantly clear that the white house counsel has no
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privilege with the president that can't be waived by the justice department. we went through that with president clinton, so there's no attorney/client privilege here and there's an obligation for him to testify, the white house counsel to testify truth truthfully about what happened, and i believe he will. he repeatedly advised the president trump not to engage in insurrection and sedition up to and including january 6th. president trump clearly ignored that advice, and -- and it -- that is going to be admissible evidence against president trump in a criminal trial. he is not president trump's perm attorney. he is an attorney for the united states governor, the office of the president city. >> indeed. thank you both. really appreciate you. >> your attorneys messed up are an entire digital cope of your entire cell phone with every text message that you've sent
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that i and others have had to endure because of the negligence and recklessness of alex jones. >> it seems so incredible to me that we have to do this, that we have to implore you, not just implore you, punish you to get to you stop lying. >> those are the parents of jesse huse who was 6 years old when he was killed alongside 19 of his classmates and six educators in the sandy hook mass shooting. they are seeking up to $150 million from alex jones, bomb-throwing right-wing conspiracy theorist who has spent the last step years profiting off his horrific lie that the massacre never happened. now just be cheer. sandy hook was not a up-time thing for this particular grifter. alex jones built the model for making money off of
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conspiracies, long before joe rogen started podcasting are horse meds and vitamin supplements as treatments for covid. he's been the screaming over-the-the top voice of the believe nothing anti-government far right. along with sandy hook, he's also claimed that 9/11, the pair thon and it tiki torch nazi rally in charlottesville were all false flag events and even though he admitted begrudgingly that the sandy hook massacre was 100% real, he's been far from on his best behavior during the trial mocking lewis' father on infowars and accusing the parents of being fed fake videos. in an unme ofable video today the lawyer says jones' lawyers accidentally sent him the entire contents of jones' phone.
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you can not make this stuff up? did you know that 12 days to go, they are team sent every message over the past couple of years and did not identify them as privilege and as of two days ago it pelphrey and clear into my possession and that's how i know you lied to me. you know what perjury is, right? >> oops. joining me now is a huffington post senior report. that a bombshell. what was in the phone? >> oops indeed. >> so what, were in the phone were text messages with sandy hook, and the reason that's an issue that alex previously testified that he had given all of his information in his phone related to sandy hook to the court. we learn that that that that was
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a lie an alex was caught in that lie. >> let's go back to where this all started. he did an inview in 2016 with meghan kelly and that's at the center of this trial. take a look. ity point i me of -- was that devil's advocate, the ohl chipping was a giant oakes, the whole thing was snake. >> yes, because i looked at all the angles of new town and i made my statements hong before the media even pick up on it. i tend to me of that children probably did die there, but then you look at all the other evidence on the other side you can see people who -- >> that's what alex jones does. he been looking recall -- tell mow what you think the infowars podcast is and does. >> a carnival barkers who has
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millions of listeners and has profited hundreds of thousands from spreading it these lies, convincing rubes or people not in their right-minute to serve of -- the worst one being that sandy took didn't happen. people hike him, the late rush limbaugh, but this. alex jones infowars, his store alone earned $165 million over three years according to his records. this guy at one point was earning $800,000 selling products in a single day which would amount to $300 million dollars a year, and yet this guy is claiming that he's bankrupt,
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that info wars is bankrupt, that he's broke. i'm sure that his ex-wife and divorce would fwoeg differ. what do you make of this. claim that will this very ruch man is being broke y ruch man is being broke he then he did not deny. what he said to the plaintiff lawyers is you are cherry-picking my most profitable dates. he doesn't deny that he has this money and we have the evidence right there to prove it. >> how does he make money? are people paying to read infowars? i know one of the things he does sell the supplement, start screaming going crazy and by the supplements in and people do. >> that's exactly right. the majority of the money that he gets his from selling these supplements. brain pills and whatever else under the sun. supplements that really aren't doing any good for anyone, they're not fda approved, but again his audience, these
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groups will buy it, and he has made hundreds of millions of dollars off it. >> and so, is there any kind of a nexus here? this case looks pretty bad for him. i think at this point just looking at the settlement how much he's gonna pay is that where we're at it this trail? the judge seems to be over him. >> >> absolutely. we are coming towards the tail end of this trial. he's got two more coming up related to sandy hook. you know, this is about accountability. what parents neil haslam and scarlet louisville is not money, they want to hold alex jones accountable. they understand that the only way to do that is to hurt him where it hurts and that is his wallet. >> and the jury does have the case, they do have, announced deliberations are taking place. you were in the courtroom a couple of days. how are these parents holding up, are there a lot of their other families there besides these two huge sandy hook families.
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>> yes, scarlet and neil have been there every day which cannot be said the same of alex jones and of just displayed tremendous courage and bravery. both parents testified yesterday. scarlett jones alex jones was in the courtroom and she really did hold him accountable. she said alex, i want you to listen to me, alex avoid here this. >> i mean the idea that she had to sit on that stand and say that my son existed, it's so tragic considering what they've already had to live through. just an unbelievable but unbelievable. thank you so much jackson murdoch. and up next, there's finally some good news for veterans suffering serious health effects after being exposed to burn pits. back in a sec. back in a sec. [laughing] it shows. try dove dry spray. our weightless formula with 1/4 moisturizers is effective and kind to skin. leaving you feeling instantly dry and confident.
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today. the legislation that would expand health care benefit to the millions of veterans exposed to toxic burn pits during a military service, also known as the pact act is on its way to president biden's desk to be signed into law. the victory comes after bitter weeklong fight. the bill initially failed in the senate after two dozen republicans, led by pennsylvania's pat toomey, former head of the anti tax club for growth blocked it from advancing, using a parliamentary and maneuver. some of them were caught on
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camera celebrating afterwards with all the high fives and fist bumps. that moment caused a massive outrage including from susan's eye or the mother-in-law of a sergeant the bill was named after. >> i felt that fist pump right in my gut. that was a punch in my gut. i don't understand anyone who's sitting on capitol hill working in the senate or the house could have a barbaric audacity to celebrate. >> then, after a weekend of defending their indefensible move and getting the acropolis kicked out of them by comedian jon stewart, those same republicans who are fist bumping on the senate floor miraculously change their minds. even though and actually change the text of the bill from when i first went to the floor last night, they are identical.
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to the reason it was blocked in the first place was failed. so most like the whole fight was a fraud. and after all that, 11 republicans still voted against a measure that would save veterans lives including kentucky senator rand paul who gave this excuse. >> this bill puts our economy though at risk by creating presumptions of service connection for the most common of ailments. the legislation also creates a presumption of service for asthma. the cdc estimates that one in 12 people have asthma, which is approximately 25 million americans. this bill costs hundreds of billions of dollars at like thet political message for a candidate on the ballot to me, but the reason this bill was finally able to get across the finish line is very much due to the tireless work of veterans groups, advocates and family
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members spent days camped outside the capitol in extreme heat fighting for this legislation. and stuart, who has stood with the families for the entire week at this to say last night. >> i'm not sure i've ever seen a situation where people who have already given so much had to fight so hard to get so little. and i hope we learn a lesson. >> i hope so too. that's tonight's rita. all increases to our snow tonight on all in -- >> what's the message that kansans sent to the rest of the country tonight? >> don't mess with us. >> a big night in kansas since political shockwaves across the nation as voters overwhelmingly turnout for abortion rights. >> last night the people of kansas sent a message to the clearest that ever i've seen in politics. >> tonight with the huge turnout and decisive win means fothde
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