of your screen set to brief reporters any minute. likely to talk about what it means and how else they plan to fight this outbreak. and something else you bet we'll hear about, the status of a prisoner trade for brittney griner after her sentencing today to more than nine years in a russian prison. how serious are the russians taking the u.s. for a swap president bush. and a far right leader accused just recently by his own lon-time adviser currently the star of the stage at cpac with conservatives descending on texas. we'll take you there live later in the show. i want to get right to kelly o'donnell at the white house and dr. patel, former white house policy director is with us too. i'll start with kelly. what are you hearing from the administration about this move? >> they are declaring a national emergency. officials are answering

questions. this has been in some ways considered a slow to act criticism of the biden administration that this was identified in may. there's been 6600 cases of monkeypox, roughly every eight days. the number of cases has doubled. it is contagious illness. it's not considered as serious as coronavirus that we have been living with for the past two and a half years. but it is something that has been very present in some big cities primarily, but they want to go beyond that. it frees up some federal resources. they have named a person from fema to oversee the federal response. they want to get vaccines, testing and treatments into a more coordinated accessible approach around the country. declaring it a national emergency allows them to do that. that's something that critics have said they could have done earlier considering that the world health organization had

already declard an emergency and cities like new york had raised the flag saying this is a serious problem. today we expect to get more details about some of the specific mechanics of how that will work. but what it does say is the administration recognizes this is a concern. they want to address it and ramp up access to testing and vaccines. the number of vaccines has been one of the questions why aren't there skmr why aren't they more readily available. so using these federal tools will be a way to try to increase that. it comes at a time when the cdc and the department of health and human services have certainly been pushed to full capacity with all of the issues they have been dealing with over the last couple years. and it is another lesson about how outbreaks and health concerns can pop up at any time and present new challenges for an administration that needs to address them. that's part of what they are trying to do today.

>> we're glad to have your reporting. thank you. what does the announcement mean for the fight against the outbreak? does it come too late to be truly effective or can it still make an impact? >> i think it was too late, but it can can still be effective. kelly shows how serious the entire government is taking it. what was the most innovative piece of information is that the fda is exploring and can make a decision in the next several day where is they can use one current dose of the vaccine tailored for monkeypox and split it effectively into fife doses through a different round of administration, which is incredible. think of five times the doses we have now. that's an example of when you put something at that level of priority, every agency works together. the other piece you're hearing about is we're misdiagnosing. cases come in that look like a rash and we don't know to test.

this elevates the ability for states to trade data, cooperate and for clinicians to make it a priority to understand what monkeypox is, what treatments are available, who should get vaccinated and when. >> thank you for your expertise this afternoon. we're waiting to hear from white house officials any minute for news on that deal they have offered to try to get brittney griner out of russia with the briefing set to start. that is griner after she was sentenced to nine years convicted on drug charges by a moscow court. president biden calling that sentencing unacceptable. new reaction from the basketball world too with the wnba and nba calling the verdict and sentencing unjustified and unfortunate, put not unexpected. adding it's our hope we are near the end of this process of of finally bringing b.g. hope to the united states. our chief foreign affairs correspondent ann tree ya mitchell is with us. let me go to you. brittney griner's lawyers report

she's very upset, but the white house says they are going to try to consider this prisoner swap offer. what are you hearing from your many sources? >> right now, you have the two major players. secretary of state antony blinken and the foreign minister from russia there at the same meeting. they have finished their dinner, so they are down for the night. i was just advised there's no plan for them to meet and talk about anything about ukraine or about griner. that could always change. we'll see what happens by the morning. earlier i was talking to terry jackson of the nba players association, who said her message to secretary blinken is get these wheels in motion, start these talks for a prisoner swap. the same message from david whelan, the brother of paul whelan, who has been in prison for four years now, an american businessman also wrongfully detained, according to the u.s. on all accounts. now she's been sentenced to nine

years. she was upset. she was emotional. we heard from her today in court. she was in the cage and said it was an honest mistake. i didn't do anything intentionally. the judge just hammered her say ing that this was deliberate ignoring all the defense arguments, all of the evidence they presented that it was not even properly weighed. the judge disagreed. he rejected all their arguments. it was really a devastating decision. now another big question was the former ambassador, where are they going to take her? if they are going to hold her until this prisoner swap s shh she going to go eight hours across russia where navalny is,

or will she stay in moscow so the top diplomat can reach her as well as her attorneys and speak with her every day. >> i appreciate you bringing that reporting. evelyn, let me play a little heard from what we heard brittney griner in court in between multiple apologies. >> i remember vividly coming out of the gym and all the little girls in the stands there waiting on me. that's what kept making me come back here. i made an honest mistake, and i hope that in your ruling that it doesn't end my life here. >> i know everybody keeps talking about political pawn and politics, but i hope this is far that from courtroom. >> what is her life going to look like now.

>> we have heard from other americans who gave dramatic interviews about what the conditions were like. the food is terrible. it's poor nutrition, poor in quality, often times rotten. she's not going to have the best opportunities physically for exercise and her bed was too short for her up to this point. i don't know whether they remedied that before, but i'm doubtful they will have a proper situation for her wherever they send her. this is a country where there's no real rule of law. we can throw russia into the same category with north korea and iran where they use them as political pawns and then they don't treat them properly through whatever they call the judicial system.

there's no real trial or real listening to evidence. the case is already decided before they even go into trial. >> what do people need to know a about this that hasn't been part of the discussion on wg beijing and her brittney griner and her case today? >> there's another american, a schoolteacher who is being held also without due process. that's a new development. what people need to know is what i said. don't go to russia. you're taking incredible risk because this is not a country that acts according to to normal rule of law. so you are taking great risk to do any kind of business with russia. and that is unfortunately what brittney griner did not knowing because she had a long established relationship with her russian team. there was no reason for her

necessarily to think she was heading into danger. so i think that's the most important point. the other aspect is we really have to come up with a stronger policy. i know the biden administration is working on this to protect americans all over the world because russia is not the only country that's holding americans in cases like this. and we have to get them all back. >> evelyn, thank you. up next, brand new charges coming down today in the death of breonna taylor. that's coming up. plus the republican party's biggest names and on the first day of their cpac kchbs, a speaker facing backlash for the racist comments he's made. and an investigation into trump org finances. what sources are telling us about what the former president's children are doing now. president's children are doing now. book with priceline. 'cause when you save more, you can “no way!” more. no wayyyy.

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right now ins dallas, the hungarian prime minister is talking with cpac on day one of their annual conference. coming weeks after a different speech from him in romania where they declared they should not become peoples of mixed race, which got instant backlash inside his country and around the world. one top adviser resigned calling the speech in romania a purely nazi diatribe. former president trump met this week. he will be a at cpac. he delivered the keynote. other recognizable names are there too. lawmakers like ted cruz, tucker carlson and glen beck and steve bannon. i want to bring in gary at the conference in dallas. gary, let me start with you. cpac itself. >> for years cpac has been a

conservative home for folks in america and for years now ever since trump took the stage over the past few years, it's become a trumpism and trump world home. as you can see behind me, victor is speaking. so those are some of the folks that are here uncolluding steve bannon, former president trump expected to speak on saturday afternoon. governor abbott spoke this afternoon. senator ted cruz, sean hannity and steve bannon is hosting his podcast outside. but who is not here is also very important. we're talking about governors desantis, christy nome and also former vice president mike pence. but folks i talked to aren't too upset about those folk that aren't here. >> he has great ideas.

>> i'm at cpac. does that not tell you something? trump all the way. >> off the main stage behind me, there's a number of breakout sessions going on around the conference folking on the biggest issues of today, including what a post roe world looks like, something that folks are excited about. and also a session called giving liz the biz, which is the january 6th committee. >> let me turn to meredith. you have been report ong the overseas far right movement and the conservative movement here in the u.s. when we look at who is on stage here, it's important for people to know who victor orban is. s.e.cupp has a piece out.

he's somebody that since retaking his office has used to control the legislature. going as far as to change a law to stay in power. he's antiimmigration, he's anti-dpai, what is it that people think he has to offer? >> in a lot of ways, the hungarian prime minister has been described as a trump of the eu. he's been embraced by far right conservatives for using a lot of the same language and rhetoric that they use. he talks about and uses anti-immigration policies, he's pro life, pro family, he talks about things like christian values, christian nationalist type values and national sovereignty. all things that have gained him a lot of fans from conservative stars here in the u.s. tucker karlson hosted his show from hungary last year and has remained in touch with him.

he is often talked about on steve bannon's show on a lot of right wing podcasts and tv shows. and when he came here to the u.s. this week, his first stop was to the meet with former president trump, where he was joined by some of his political advisers. i did talk to someone that had launch with him. he met with sosm the donor there is at c pac for a meet and greet and roundtable. they said the donors were eating up everything they said. he was talking about george so ross who are is a boogeyman for the right. he was talking about his own battles with the media and was bragging that trump was the or he was the first foreign leader thatendorsed. he's really found a big fan base among that cpac crowd. as i listen to his speech there at cpac, he was speaking a lot of the same ways you'd expect president trump to speak to.

>> thank you both for your reporting. appreciate it. verdict watch right now in the defamation trial of conspiracy theorist alex jones. and today a new detail about the connection to the january 6th attack on the capitol. a lawyer for the sandy hook parents suing jones says the select committee has requested to years worth of records from jones' phone. why would an attorney opposing jones have his phone records? because jones' lawyers accidentally leaked them to the prosecution and then today asked for a trial because of that mess-up. the judge denied it. now the they will decide how much he will have to pay up. it's part of this $150 million lawsuit filed by the parents of one of the children killed. i want to bring in senior reporter ben collins. let me start here with the the news that we're learning today, which is specifically related to the desire for others outside of this courtroom to see the text messages that alex jones has sent and received over the last

couple years. >> by the way, the lawyer for the sandy hook parents said he will comply with law enforcement as needed here. there's already some stuff in here that shouldn't be in here, straight up. for example, alex jones is now party to three defamation cases. in the next one, he had psychiatric and medical files for the plaintiffs in the next case somehow. he said he destroyed those. that's why you're probably not going to see a massive trench of documents dumped to some reporter because there's some stuff in there that the public should not know about, and alex jones should not know about. specifically about his enemies. that said, the january 6th committee it seems like will have access to some of these phone records or maybe all of them. he pled the 5th 50 times very proudly. we don't know largely what law enforcement means with this

thing, but this is a pandora's box. this is just the start of a huge mess for him. >> do we know anything else like about how it came to be that jones was surprised on the standby the option's attorney. didn't his own attorneys know at some point they had accidentally leaked this material, did they never know? i'm not a lawyer. help me understand this. >> i'm not either, but it seems like a paralegal for alex jones' defense dropped this stuff in a dropbox that was accessible by the sandy hook lawyers 12 days ago. and then they said, hey, just letting you know, am i supposed to be seeing this? and alex jones' lawyer said no. they made no motion to take it back. the important thing here is that alex jones has not complied with discovery, which is like handing over every bit of material about what he knew about sandy hook

and the coverage of it in the last few years. there were pretty much instantly e-mails that were findable. so he was not telling the truth on the stand about if he had any interaction with the coverage or if he had any e-mails proving that. it's a fascinating thing he did not know. you can tell on the stand that he had no idea they had these e-mails. he had a cough throughout this trial. his cough never came back harder than in that moment it was revealed that they had all the e-mails. >> the jury is deliberating now it's important to make clear thr not trying to figure out did alex jones lie or not. he did. the question is how much money does jones now have to pay to the grieving parents who have been living in a nightmare for almost ten years because of that lie. do we have any sense of timing? i know that's a tough question because we're not in the jury, but what are you hearing from

folks you talked to? >> alex jones said he should be paying out $8 in damages. and then the other side -- >> how did they come up with 8? >> it's a long complicated explanation. his cohost said $1. that makes a lot of sense. the $150 million is from the other side. it could be anywhere in between those two numbers. we don't know. you could try to read tea leaves from the jury questions. some were kind of sympathetic to the concept of alex jones and what had does. some got community service as part of this. it's hard to know if that meant in addition to the money or instead of it. who knows. but this is where we're at now in the trial. we don't know. we're currently reading tea leaves of questions from yesterday. >> ben collins, stay on top of this. thank you. appreciate it. coming up, new developments and new reaction related to the death of breonna taylor. what werth now learning about the civil rights charges brought

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announcement from the department of justice they are filing federal charges against four current or former police officers in the raid that kill ed breonna taylor. ken, bring us up to speed on what we should know since this decision was announced and what happens from here. >> legal experts say this kind of case is exactly why federal civil rights laws exist. so they can be applied when local law enforcement fails these justice department charges follow an investigation into a tragedy that sparked nationwide outcry. a 26-year-old black woman shot dead by police who broke into her apartment in the middle of the night based on wrong information. tz today's federal charges say it one an honest mistake, it was based on a lie. prosecutors say these police officers knew it was a lie and sought to cover that up when the raid ended in a fiasco. some of the officers even met in a garage two months after shooting to get their false stories straight. they spent months misleading state, local, and federal

investigators. the justice department is bringing civil rights charges against four current and former police officers saying their misconduct directly led to breonna taylor's death. take a listen to attorney general merrick garland this morning. >> we allege that the defendants knew their actions and falsifying the affidavit could create a dangerous situation and we allege these unlawful acts resulted in breonna taylor's death. we share, but we cannot fully imagine, the grief felt by breonna taylor's loved ones and all of those affected by the events of march 13th, 2020. breonna taylor should be alive today. >> three of the officers are accused of conspireing to falsify the search warrant application, and a fourth was charged with unlawful use of deadly force. it's important to note here that the state of kentucky failed to detect this alleged conspiracy. kentucky attorney general did not charge any officer in connection with breonna taylor's death or with lying.

he did not respond to our request for comment. one louisville police officer was charged in state court with tiring his weapon recklessly in a way that endangered taylor's neighbors. he was acquitted in kentucky, but he's now charged again under federal constitutes for that conduct. another thing to keep in mind about today's announcement is the officer who fired the shots that killed taylor has not been charged and the documents say he and other hs no reason to know the warrant was based on a lie. the tactics used are not part of what the doj was criminal here. but law enforcement experts say this was not a case where a middle of the night raids was justified they could have interviewed taylor and her boyfriend at any time. >> ken, thank you for that. new developments out of new york. former president trump's children talked to investigators. two sources confirming that both donald trump jr. and ivanka trump have now testified in the new york attorney general's civil investigation. our investigative correspondent tom winter is behind this one. so talk to me about what your

sources are telling you, where the investigation stands and how significant it is they have now talked to these two key players inside the trump family. >> the important part here is that as we continue to speak and hear that these depositions are ongoing and that the a.g.'s office continues to speak to the trumps that really all that's left is the former president. then after that, that's really one of the last major investigative steps in this civil investigation. not a criminal investigation. so i think at some point here in the not so distant future, there's boing to be decisions needed to be made by the new york attorney general's office and by the attorney general herself. so i think that's really the significant part of this. they wanted to speak because the trump organization, as we have discussed on many occasions, really is kind of a family corporation in many ways. obviously, the two people we're looking at on screen play a significant role in it in donald trump jr. and vanka trump. she has some of her own business interests as well. so these two are two important

people in the course of this investigation for the people at the attorney general's office to speak to. the former president is up next. we anticipate that to be taken in the next couple weeks. a couple key things on top of this. will we ever see these depositions possible they could be included in future court filings by either side or could come off in any sort of a civil trial if they file a complaint. could anyone go to jail, the answer on its face is no unless somebody perjured themselves. we have seen no indication of that. it appears that the attorney general moves forward, it would be a monetary penalty that she might be seeking if there is a crime that she believes is violated and if a judge and jury agree with that. >> tom winter, thank you. good to see you. a little bit of breaking news. with chuck schumer finally setting a date for the senate to vote on that climate and health care and tax reonciliation

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voets now for that massive tax and climate reconciliation bill. that vote will start on saturday. start on saturday. so now there's at least a clock ticking for senators who have been wondering what the timeline is, what will they see. the vote comes with a catch. there's no word yet if she's down with this bill. you probably don't need this reminder, but democrats cannot pass it unless she signs off. ali vitali is on capitol hill. also with us is jake sherman. good to see you both. saturday beginning of the procedural votes. that means by sunday we should know whether this thing is getting the green light or not? >> that's very idealistic

timing. that noise you heard at the commercial break was everyone in this building on the senate side trashing their weekend plans because senate majority leader chuck schumer told us when the starting bill is on this reconciliation process. you're right it kicks off some time after 12:30 on the motion to proceed, which is a simple majority vote that actually is probably going to tell us a lot. because it's there that we could see senator sinema voice her opinion in one direction or another, whether or not she's on board for this package to even go forward. and then it you will allow me to nerd out, it triggers up to 20 hours of debate. that's equally divided between democrats and republicans. they can get that time back if they want to speed up some of this process. there's also the potential wrinkle that republicans in an attempt to make this more painful for democrats will make them read out loud the 700-plus pages of this bill. that could take up a little more time too.

then after that debate, we go into a voting period where senator cans offer amendments until the point they say uncle and get on with the actual meat of this vote. sos we're in for a long weekend. it could mean sunday night we could see what this vote looks like. it could bleed into monday. that's too much for my crystal ball to handle, at least we know what we're starting. >> there's still a lot of questions. we don't know where we're ending up. that's partly because of senator sinema. we showed you some of the questions she has about this bill, some of the provisions. and you ask a pretty important question in punch bowl. which is why would chuck schumer put together a deal without the input of the second most notable hold out senator? would that have made a difference? >> probably. at least we would know what she was for and what she was against. i think sinema from people i have spoken to that are close to

her is not happy that she was cut out of these negotiations. the truth is she has supported many of these provisions in this bill before. some of the tax provisions and some other provisions we're trying to confirm do give her some pause. i don't think they are going to have to throw this bill in the trash or completely trash it from the whole thing, but i think there's a decent chance that they are going to have to have to tweak the carried interest provision. that's the low tax rate that hedge fund managers pay on some profit that they get from their investments. there might be some change to the corporate tax rate. 15% minimum tax that joe manchin pushed hard for. there's a lot of questions. sinema has said that she won't make any comment. she won't say whether she's going to vote for the bill or not until the parliamentarian is done scrubbing the bill. that could be days away. that process going on now. it will continue tomorrow.

we don't know what that's going to look like. schumer wants to get this process going. but it's just a risky proposition at this point. >> jake sherman, ali vitali, thank you both. if either of you have dinner reservations you want to hand over this weekend, i'm happy to take them. appreciate it. i want to bring in senator from virginia and chair of the senate intel committee mark warner. thank you for getting to a camera for us this afternoon. you just heard my colleagues there laying out the timeline that senator schumer has just laid out in the last couple minutes here. vote process starting on saturday, maybe wrapped up by monday. let's flash forward. are you celebrating because this is done or are you upset because senator sinema and the concerns she has has meant this vote does not go forward? >> listen, you have to stay optimistic in this business or it gets really tough. so i'm looking forward to a monday night celebration. this is a complicated bill.

the sausage making of how we got here, folks will write lots of stories or even books about it. it's been more twisty and turny than most. i think we will get it done. but poet with senator manchin and sinema, we are group participants in all of these bipartisan efforts from infrastructure to chips to the electoral count act. we have been working together on these bills. it's never a straight line, but we ultimately get there. >> we are showing on the screen some of the provisions in this bill. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell seemed to feel pretty strongly about what's in it. i want to play for you what senator mcconnell said. >> the democrats have decided to spend hundreds of billions of dollars of the people's money on a bill that laughs at the people's priorities. it would make inflation worse

over the next two years, and do nothing to cut inflation in the long-term. >> so saying this is a bill that laughs in the people's priorities. your response? >> my response is it would be what i'd expect from leader mcconnell. let's go through four things in this bill that completely are in tune with the vast majority of americans. number one, it's the first bill in literally 20 years that's going to set aside money for deficit reduction. both teams have been bad on that. this bill has $300 billion in debt reduction. second, the economists that mitch mcconnell cites the most, at least last year when he's been chastising the biden administration is former treasury secretary larry summers. larry summers has come out repeatedly sense this bill was announced ask says it actually helps win the fight against inflation both short-term and long-term. the committee, a group that republican friends like to side a lot, this has frankly a

deflationary affect over the 20-year period of close to $2 trillion. number three, i think the vast majority of americans want medicare to negotiate on drug prices. why should we be paying a lot more for drugs than the same drug in canada or britain? that keeps more money in people's pockets. and as we see the equivalent of 105 degrees take place in d.c. with the heat index, the idea we wouldn't take a step forward on climate would be the height of your responsibility. so i know just as we complained when the republicans used these tools in 2017, that the republicans would complain about this process and it's opinion a long and wiepding road, but monday night we'll have something to celebrate. >> let me ask you to put on your intel committee hat. there's some key issues that i want to ask you about on china.

the white house national security spokesperson john kirby just talking about what's happening with china and the live fire drills. i want to play for you what he said. >> the united states is prepared for what beijing chooses to do. we will not seek nor do we want a crisis. at the same time, we will not be deterred from the western specific consistent with international law. >> so what is the point for you with china where you say what they are doing beyond warning shots. we need to prepare for something more serious. >> most of the world has focused over the last nine months on russia's invasion of ukraine. from the intel standpoint, i can tell you the long-term challenge for our nation is china in the 21st century. particularly around technology. that's why we did the chips bill.

we have also seen the language and efforts of the communist party in china led by xi jinping where he made clear he believes his destiny to reunify taiwan with the plans of china. the same way putin had the same dream about ukraine. i'm not surprised he's using the speaker eers trip to ratchet up the rhetoric and potentially the overflights, but i think it's important that we preserve the freedom of navigation in the south china sea that we show will stand with taiwan. i hope taiwans was similar to what ukraine did start upping their own commitment to their own defense. but this is saber rattling at its most.

what is your level of concern? how concerned are you about the control given he was able to live in the heart of kabul for as long as he did. >> we have known that the taliban have been the bad guys. we didn't need them sheltering this terrorist to know that. we have seen them cut back on rights of women and they violated that promise when they came in. they said they respect those rights and would keep out these terrorist leaders. they obviously did not. i think that this has prooumpb we can take our forces off the ground and still have the the capability to hit foes of america. i think you'll see and there maybe some heightened intensity from isis remnants, but i world is a safer place with the demise . >> thank you for being back on the show. we appreciate it. coming up, after a week of

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a quick check of other top stories we're following including good news, better news at the gas pump, prices falling for 61 days straight now. that drop-off is due to the falling price of crude and the lower demand for gas right now. in florida, governor ron desantis announced he suspected a top county prosecutor who said he would not enforce a state o abortion or surgery for transgender children. >> liz cheney out with a new ad featuring someone who is familiar to americans, the former vice president dick cheney speaking directly to camera warning of the threats he believes this country faces if their voices are silenced by

trump supporters. >> there has never been an individual that's been a greater threat to our election than donald trump. he tried to steal the election using lies and violence to keep himself in power after voters had rejected him. he's a coward. a real man wouldn't lie to his supporters. he lost in his election and he lost big. i know it, he knows it and deep down most republicans know it. >> that's a campaign ad from congresswoman cheney. nbc news senior congressional reporter scott wong. talk us to about the strategy behind this, scott, because it seems fairly clearly aimed not necessarily at wyoming where donald trump is quite popular, but beyond the boundaries of that state. >> i think that's exactly right, hallie. she's calling in the big gun, but at the same time we know looking at polls that she's down 20, 25 points in the polls. it's very unlikely that she will be able to win this primary against the trump-backed harriet

hagemann. liz cheney is thinking long term. the cheneys are thinking long term and playing the long game and you know, we think about cheney making a speech at the ronald reagan library the other day. she's making trips to new hampshire. that suggests to a lot of people in washington that she is perhaps thinking bigger than just wyoming. she's thinking perhaps 2024, taking on president trump and really the entire republican party in a presidential matchup, but turning to cheney, he is an extremely influential conservative voice in the party in modern -- in modern times. obviously, you know, the vice president to george w. bush and also chief of staff to gerald ford, defense secretary for george h.w. bush, a member of leadership in the house of representatives holding that same leadership position that

his daughter would later hold, and so pretty tough words from dick cheney calling president trump a coward and the greatest threat to democracy in america's 246 years. >> worth noting, too, that congresswoman cheney, regardless of how her primary goes in august will get a national spotlight again when the select committee meetings pick back up in the fall, scott. >> that's right. she has -- she has been a huge, you know, star of those hearings, and we will likely have two additional hearings, as you mentioned, later this fall. >> scott wong. good to see you on capitol hill. thank you. thanks to all of you watching this hour on msnbc. watch highlights on hallie@msnbc and as always i will see you on nbc news now for show number two for "nbc news tonight" and every week night at 5:00 eastern. "deadline: white house" starts

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>> hi there, everyone. it's 4:00 in washington. i'm michael steele in for my friend, nicole wallace. we have a whole lot of news today on the january 6th front including brand-new reporting on efforts to keep the big lie a lie to by the architect to get mike pence to overturn the results on january 6th. "the new york times"