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the clash of civilization. a politician cannot be racist. >> viktor orban was accused of pure nazi rhetoric with one of his own aides but that did not stop him from receiving the red carpet treatment by republicans at cpac. >> the russian trial ended just as everyone knew it would, with a barbaric sentence for brittney griner. how soochb before a deal gets done to bring her home. breaking news in the alex jones defamation trial. the jury has rushed a verdict on compensatory damages. we begin with a future the republicans want. it kicked off in dallas with a keynote speech if you didn't know any better could have easily just been delivered by ron desantis or donald trump. just take a listen. >> i am an old-fashioned freedom fighter.

politics, my friend, are not enough. this war is a war. we were the first ones in europe who said no to illegal migration and stopped the invasion of illegal migrants. we have to build not just a physical wall on our borders but a legal wall around our children to protect them from the gender ideology. to sum up, the mother is a woman, the father is a man and leave our kids alone. full stop. end of discussion. >> actually, that man received a standing ovation for bashing the culture war, same-sex marriage, viktor orban. he's the current idol of the antidemocracy right. the new vladimir putin.

american conservatives should join forces with him. he said europeans should not become peoples of mixed race leading a long-time adviser to resign. those comments were obviously not too racist for cpac organizers since they followed through with their invite giving orban an hour to spout demagogery why they see him as a model of success relying entirely on appeals of racism. naturally the twice impeached former president welcomed him at his new jersey resort. a place for the world's worst leaders. it was great spending time with my friend. in fact, in a 2018 speech former trump adviser called orban trump before trump. the reality is viktor orban is a

right wing dream for the republicans trying to destroy society. he's the continent's biggest proponent of white invasion theory. the biggest promoter of the organization of the republican party is tucker carlson. he took his show on the road to hungary for an entire week touting it as a bike con for america. >> small country with a lot of lessons for the rest of us. one last thing, because the example of hungary is so powerful, not just in europe but to the world, to the entire world, not simply the west, what you can do with a relatively small economy and not many people if you're serious about keeping your nation from being destroyed. >> in case you have any doubt that right wingers are fully on board with orban's theory. look at this.

>> we have seen what kind of future the globalist ruling class has to offer. the globalists can all go to hell, i have come to texas. >> my pam is joining us tonight. professor shepley, i am going to start with you. i know your expertise is hungary and this sort of ultra nationalist, christian nationalist movement there. this guy, orban, has been around for quite some time. he had some things to say about president obama. it does seem to me that he is the foremost promoter of christian nationalism and anti-migrant paranoia in europe. would i be right about that? >> yes, you absolutely would. so in the migrant crisis of 2015

when more than a million people came from syria, iraq, so forth seeking safety in europe, orban was the one who built a wall. built a wall before trump built a wall, who pushed people back across that wall. he separated kids and parents. the thing that he did actually in 2015 was exactly what trump went on do later. so he has been exactly a model for republican efforts to deal with the border, and i might say that one of the shocking things about his speech today, here is a foreign leader of an allied country who has come to the u.s. to meet at the convention of the opposition party, and one of the things he said was we must coordinate the movement of our troops because we face the same challenge. he's recruiting the republican party to work with hungary, which is not something the leader of an ally party typically does. >> let me ask you this. what is the bridge between, as you said, the policies match

identically, even the white replacement theory matches with tucker carlson. we know the bridge with tucker carlson and tucker carlson's father, i believe make some money off of him. he's got this -- his father, i believe, there it is, his father had -- his father richard carlson is a director of a washington firm who has lobbied orban. how did that feeding tube get orban's ideas into trump or did it? >> well, first the connection with tucker carlson is interesting because the hungarian government paid tucker carlson's father to make the introductions to tucker carlson and then they paid tucker carlson to go to hungary that week. cpac, one of the sponsors is the fundamental party for hungary. there are lots of ties between the trump circle and the orban

circle. steve bap nonis one of them. he not only called orban trump before trump, he created both of them in lots of ways. even before that, orban's big electoral victory in 2010 was engineered by a pair of republican master minds. there are a lot of connections. i suspect you may remember sebastian gorka who showed up at the trump inaugural ball. he wore not the neonazi uniform but the original nazi uniform of his father. eventually he got thrown out of the white house. he still has been happening out of trump's circle. there are a lot of ties between the orban people and the trump people and this is a very deep and wide set of coaxes. >> rula, it is lit ramally -- it's easily -- it's obviously

more convenient in some sense to organize the party rather than putinize it. what he's doing it's so objectionable and they can't continue with this adoration of putin but orban is new for the followers. they have clung on to him. what do you make with the connection between orban and the republican party? >> orban talked in 2018 about the access of the willing. orban, trump, sevine in italy, the fascists overseas. common values, antiimmigration, trying to use the powers and tools of democracy to try to destroy it from within. i believe the former speaker said the way they come to pewer is through laws. the way they hold on to power is through laws, not bullets, bombs.

this moment putin is destroying ukraine, bombing ukraine. he is the one that gave them the tools, disinformation. the white supremist theory wherks talked about the access of the willing, one flapped new zealand. he cited victor orban, he cited donald trump in his manifest oh. he had a local candidate. he went on a shooting spree. he shot six people of color. he shot against the headquarter of the democratic party. immediately after people start blaming immigrants. we are seeing now as we speak as we have elections all over europe, especially in italy in two months, viktor orban led to an attack in northern italy where a black man was killed.

not only this, we've seen how putin and others, the fort in libya. we have seen a rising of migrants who arrive in italy. why? because he understands how to organize migration propaganda, oil, gas, food, grain and other things to dismantle democracy. he's aiding and abetting in it. the republican party is ripe and sort of over this. do you think -- i see it as the most organization in somebody like desantis who has a propaganda school that he's sending to teachers in the summer where they teach them

jefferson post slavery and don't forget to remember what he made. they were prosecuting people and he's pushing a version of white replacement theory. you can't say anything about racism at the workplace. you have to create a white nationalist environment yifr where or what else. he said that the press and the united states will report tomorrow. their racist didn't -- who condemns a mixed race society and say, oh, but i'm a christian, but the through line

is both the telecoming out because there is tho question the conservative movement has replaced the great replacement theory. they embraced and cheered a man who said in his remarks today that the battle lines for western civilization will be fought in 2024 and western europe. this is a movement that says the integration of brown and black people is wrong. elevate and embrace that. the same movement that embraced viktor orban is the one that is giving currency and fuel to ron desantis, to donald trump and to

other leaders in today's republican party. >> it was ruled by the ottoman empire. it's fight willing against a fictional enemy. he's still pushing it. he's still using muslims as this fictional enemy. no? >> yes, he is. at the same time he doesn't want to teach people, especially europeans what they did to muslim population. in the '90s we had a real genocide in bosnia simply because they were muslims. women were taken, put in camps between 20,000 and 50,000 women were raptd in camps simply because they are muslims. they're looking at 20% of muslim

or being embraced on television. that is the future they want to purge. they want to keep the wide premises society. viktor has nothing to explore. his country is bankrupt. basically give him some money and he's using the arguments, europe doesn't want to give us money and doesn't want to bail us out simply because we are defending christian values. europeans in this moment are fighting between those who want to defend their values against putin. at the same time, they are pretending that what orban is doing is minor issue. it's not a minor issue. this is a battle of our democracy. i think republicans understand it and they are trying to bring that kind of autocracy here to the united states.

>> i wish we had more time. thank you all very much. up next on "the reid out," president biden calls brittney griner's sentence today in a russian court unacceptable. it's now up to him to negotiate her release. "the reid out" is next. ss le. lively offers bluetooth, fda regulated hearing aids delivered to your door for thousands less than you'd expect and remote access to an audiology team seven days a week. better hearing has never been this easy. try lively risk free for 100 days. visit listenlively.com. ♪ my a1c stayed here, it needed to be here. ruby's a1c is down with rybelsus®. my a1c wasn't at goal, now i'm down with rybelsus®. mom's a1c is down with rybelsus®. (♪ ♪) in a clinical study, once-daily rybelsus® significantly lowered a1c

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right now the phoenix mercury of the wnba are taking to the court for the first game since their teammate, brittney griner, was sentenced to 9 years in prison. they released a statement earlier, while we knew it was never going to be the legal process to bring our friend home, today's verdict is a sobering milestone in the 168 day nightmare for our sister, bg. the judge rejected the wrongfully detained player's final plea for leniency. she brought less than a gram of cannabis oil into the country. >> i never meant to hurt

anybody, to put in jeopardy. i never meant to break any laws. i know everybody keeps talking about political pawn and politics. i hope that is far from this courtroom. i made an honest mistake. i hope that it doesn't end my life here. >> griner's lawyers say they plan to file an appeal. meanwhile, president biden and secretary of state tony blinken are calling out. i call on russia to release her immediately. the administration is facing growing pressure to deal with moscow on a prisoner swap. they are reportedly still waiting for a substantive response to the kremlin to the offer they made in june. tonight's game started with a

solid moment of silence. i wonder if you've seen brittney's statements today but what's your reaction to this sentence? >> heart break. i saw the news earlier this morning and just broke down in tears although we knew it was coming. every single time you see it and picture bg, see bg over there, your heart breaks to know she's been away with her family and friends. i'm getting a little choked up just watching that footage because she means so much to every single one of us. >> i want to read a little bit of the statement from brittney's agent. she tweeted this. brittney griner was severe by russian legal standards and goes

to prove what we have known all along, that brittney is being used as a political pawn. we appreciate the continued efforts of potus and sec blinken to get a deal done. a nine year sentence it seems as though they are setting the stakes very high. >> we are hopeful. i think we have to for bg. we're calling on the entire global sports commune mutt at this, because it's not about bg, it's about all of us. i have played in russia. so many of us travel for competitions. it's our job, our livelihood. the fact that someone could be wrongfully detained like this and used, we're calling on every single person and holding out hope to get bg home, to get paul home. two americans home safely who need to be back and we are

holding on to that. >> it's not lost on me and on many of us that the reason some of you players in the u.s. travel overseas and play is monetary. there's a pay disparate between the nba and wnba. a lot of talented players like yourself do go overseas and play. brittney has made it very clear that she actually also was very much interested in boosting russian basketball, russian women's basketball. she was doing something for them. she was making their league better. what do you make of -- i mean, this cannot encourage others to do this. is the era of people traveling and playing away, particularly in authoritarian states, over? >> whew, i think it's definitely questionable in russia and it's flooding i think a lot of the other european markets. we have to go play over there and make money while we can in our prime. we are global citizens. bg cares about russia, her team.

a lot of these players will sign multi-year contracts to stay with their team, they love it, they're treated well, they build relationships. it's like them playing with that you are teams. when your safety and livelihood, privately, take really good care of you, now you're kind of questioning what does it look like? what does our safety look like to move throughout europe and other places that for so long we could do freely. it's definitely putting in other players not signing back with russia. >> that makes absolutely 100% sense. thank you so much for taking the time to be here. i know this is a difficult night. i appreciate you. >> thank you. >> cheers. let's bring in julia. it definitely feels like this long sentence. the prosecutors asked for 9 1/2 years. they gave her 9. sounds like russia is saying, we're putting these stakes

really high. this is a long, long sentence. >> absolutely. and i think in part it's because of all of the attention we're paying to it here in the u.s. brittney griner was initially as soon as she was arrested a high value hostage, a high value prisoner that i think the russian government understood immediately they could extract a lot from the u.s. government in exchange for her freedom, but now they can get a lot more and so that's why you saw a 9-year prison sentence. instead of probation, instead of a six or seven year prison sentence, you get an eight year prison sentence. they're cranking up the dial so they can extract as much as they can in the situation and according to my administration sources, they are really dragging their feet. through various means that

they're known to make a deal, they are taking their sweet time. they don't care how long this takes. they're not the ones that really want this, that it's the u.s. that wants this, that it's the u.s. who has to put more and more sweeteners in the deal to get brittney griner out. i would say to your previous guest, you know, even before russia invaded ukraine the state department put out a notice saying that all-americans should leave russia. i would really advise against wnba players going to russia now no matter how good the paycheck. it is a really -- even before the war it was a dangerous place to be and especially now, it is a very dangerous place no matter how good the money may be. >> yeah. clearly. they're taking hostages. let me tell you what brittney said in this apology in court. it was very heartbreaking. here it is. >> i want to apologize to my

teammates, my club, the fans and the city for my mistake that i made and the embarrassment that i brought to them. i want to also apologize to my parents, my siblings, the organization back at home, to the amazing women of the wnba and my amazing spouse back at home. >> i take nothing that a hostage says as real. i don't even accept that she did what they are claiming she did. what do you make of the fact she felt that -- it was a way to get a message to her friends and family but what do you make of that apology? >> i mean, to me it sounds real, but i think she's in distress. >> yeah. >> that she's been -- it's been six months she's been in a russian prison. she doesn't speak russian. conditions there are terrible. she doesn't know when she'll ever get home, if it's going to be really in nine years or if it will happen sooner? she doesn't know if it's really

because of the vape cartridges or because she's been taken hostage. i don't think you can under estimate the psychological duress that she's under, and i think that's what you're seeing here. and i think she's coping with it by, you know, doing what she -- as she says, i was taught to take responsibility. i was taught to -- right? and i think that's how she's deeg with it. it's so much larger than these vape cartridges and so much larger than her taking responsibility. i don't think she embarrassed anybody. >> very quickly, donald trump attacked her the other day. the fact that he called her a spoiled person and loaded up with drugs. the fact that a former american president attacked her. what does that do to the dynamic here? >> i didn't know he did that, but it doesn't surprise you that he attacked a woman who was, you know, in a horrible situation and that she's imprisoned by his

bff, vladimir putin. i'm not surprised, are you. >> still disappointed and disgusted. thank you. that's all you can do with donald trump. thank you very much. really appreciate you. the jury has reached a verdict and remember those texts his attorney mistakenly handed over. the january 6th committee said they would just love to have a peek at those. we'll be right back. but seriously we need a reliable way to help keep everyone connected from wherever we go. well at at&t we'll help you find the right wireless plan for you. so, you can stay connected to all your drivers and stores on america's most reliable 5g network. that sounds just paw-fect. terrier-iffic i labra-dore you round of a-paws at&t 5g is fast, reliable and secure for your business.

late this afternoon, alex jones was ordered by a jury to pay $4.1 million in compensatory damages to a sandy hook victim. they had asked for 150 million. the lawyers for the parents and mark bankston said he was pleased. tomorrow there will be a hearing on punitive damages. he expects the family to receive more than $9 million in total. the trial has been quite the wild ride so far. the right wing conspiracy pitch man was admonished by the judge multiple times for lying. >> you must tell the truth while you testify. this is not your show. do you understand what i have said? yes or no? do you understand what i have said? >> yes. i believe what i said was true. >> you believe everything you say is true, but it isn't.

your believes do not make something true. that is -- that is what we're doing here. >> and nothing can top the moment yesterday when jones found out that his lawyers had accidentally sent the entire contents of the phone to the lawyer of the sandy hook parents revealing that he had lied under oath when he said he didn't have any texts about sandy hook on his phone, but the implications of those texts go much further than this trial. they contain, quote, intimate messages with roger stone who said the january 6th committee had asked him to send the texts unless the judge ordered them not to. the judge gave jones time to go through the documents and mark what he wanted confidential. the committee has been trying to obtain jones's text messages for months saying they could be relevant to understand his role in helping organize the rally before the insurrection. joyce vance and a former u.s.

attorney and our friend. joyce, i am going to start from the top, then i'll get back to the january 6th stuff. i just want to remind people what alex jones was saying that got him sued. take a look. >> i don't know what happened in sandy hook. we played devil's advocate from both sides. it's as foehny as a $3 bill. there's been a coverup. anderson cooper got caught faking where they were. if children were lost in sandy hook, my heart goes out to each and every one of those parents and the people that say it. the problem is, i've seen actors before. >> make it make sense to me why this family only got $4 million. they asked for 150 million and also what about this second part of the damages? >> so i think the second part of the trial, this punitive damages

phase that will take part tomorrow is the answer to your question, joy, because the $4 million in damages today, those are compensatory damages. that means that if the families prove up losses, for instance, the need to move, the need to have security, much of the medical care, mental health care that they needed after that, they actually proved that financial amount of damages and they're compensated. tomorrow the punitive damages, that's about something different where today was about compensating victims. tomorrow is about punishing the defendant and it's tough to imagine a defendant who is more richly deserving of punishment than mr. jones. >> thank you for explaining this. a lot of us saw the 4 million and went, what? that makes more sense. jones's wife whose name is kelly, she has tweeted about the subpoenas and the texts and she said they will definitely subpoena this info, another

stunning attorney gaffe. she's saying she wants to subpoena them as well because she's in a divorce with him where he's also apparently lying about his money. is there any way to objecttivelily prove how rich this guy is. he made up to $800,000 a day. >> so it's an interesting question because one of the legitimate considerations for the jury tomorrow in the punitive damages phase of the trial is how much money is jones worth because you can't really punish someone without reference to what their total assets are. so we may see a little taste of that tomorrow, but certainly this phone will put people who are interested in look being at his assets and other facets of his personal life much closer to learning the truth. >> he's been on his show. i cannot understand why he's doing his show. i can't believe he's still doing a show. i don't know who his lawyers are

but they don't seem very smart. this is bennie thompson's statement on subpoenaing these texts. jones has repeatedly promoted unsupported allegations of election fraud implying he had knowledge about the plans of the former president's rally. do you think jones could be in some legal sflubl what do you expect to come from his texts? >> let's just start with what's in front of us. will the committee be able to get the phone? the answer would seem to be yes. jones either wrongfully withheld it or he's saying there's a fifth amendment privilege issue. those are not compelled

statements. any materials or texts on his phone, it's tough to imagine a scenario where that gets pulled up in court. the fact that it was an inadvertent exposure. it's by texas law. and listen to me pound the table and complain about it over and over and over and over. you've always assured me, be patient. things are happening. it now appears you were right and i was wrong. give us a very quick comment on the pace of this investigation as you see it now. >> well, i think, joy, the conversations that we have had have focused on our hope that we lived in a world where the justice department would hold a former president who plotted a coup accountable for that.

there were concerns, legitimate concerns last year when we didn't see signs of investigation, the signs that we're seeing now, but at this point it looks like doj is very focused. of course, now the most recent news we've heard is that trump's lawyers are beginning to negotiate with the justice department over whether there can be some assertion of executive privilege that will keep some witnesses from testifying. doj looks ready to me, they look committed and ready to go. >> joyce vance, senior officer of talking me down. i appreciate you being on the show always and providing such calm and brilliant reason. we appreciate you. thank you. coming up next, justice at last for breonna taylor. the justice department is charging four officers in connection with the killing. we'll be right back.

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the state of kentucky is literally a metaphor for the law of consequences. the devastating floods that took the lives of at least 37 people were at least partially a consequence of neglect because even though the most powerful republican in congress, senator mitch mcconnell, hails from kentucky, it remains one of the poorest states in the country. its infrastructure, especially in some areas hardest hit by the floods has fallen into decay. the landscape that was built to serve this work was fragile

leaving the people there and shuttered so many of the minds and moved on. and a land that in itself in many places had been southern of his natural -- there are no consequences for the police officers involved. taylor, a 26-year-old emergency room technician was killed by police during a botched middle of the night raid on her apartment two years ago. now at last it appears there will be consequences. today attorney general merrick garland and kristin clark announced federal charges against four former and current louisville metro police officers in connection with her death. >> the indictment alleges that

by preparing a false affidavit to secure a search warrant, they deprived breonna taylor of her constitutional right to be free and we allege that ms. taylor's death resulted as a result of that violence. >> unconstitutional use of force and okay struks. this rb the first time anyone was charged. firing shots into a neighboring home and even then a police officer was acquitted. after the break, charles booker, democratic nominee for united states senate in kentucky will join me to talk about all things happening in kentucky.

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where we can't even imagine. today is overdue. but, it still hurts. i have waited 874 days for today. >> amen. >> joining me now, charles booker, the democratic nominee for u.s. senate in kentucky. author of from the hood to the hauler. it is so good to see you. i first met you when you, as a state representative, were out in the streets, marching for breonna taylor, and to make a mallory, and many others who were in the streets in kentucky, demanding justice. it doesn't mean about clark, and merrick garland up there today saying, this was, in fact, a crime against this young woman? >> joyce, good to be with you again. this day is the day that many

of us were unsure whatever come, but, we never stop calling for it. to see this moment of accountability, for a life that represents so many of us, when it busted down, all of our doors were busted down. this moment of accountability means so much. it is reminded, that when we organize together, when we stand together, one week route for justice when, we work together, change is possible. and, it's a big step forward. >> i immediately thought of, and as producers to pull the soundbite, because when i watched the press conference today, i thought of daniel cameron, and what he said, when he declined to call, what happened to breonna, a crime. saying, the only crime was that officers, accidentally, shot bullets into the home of one white neighbor, not the other neighbors, just the white neighbor. here is what he said back then, about the decision to not invite. >> detective cosgrove, insurgent mattingly, were justified and returning fire, because they were fired upon.

i understand that is a black man. how painful it is. criminal law is not meant to respond to every sorrow, and grief, and that is true here. >> let me read you what he said today, about the officer supporting the ministry of justice. it is important people do not conflate what happened today with the state law investigation by our office. our task was to investigate where the officers who executed the search warrant were criminally responsible for miss taylor's death under state law. it shocks me that the attorney general of the state of kentucky would believe it was not his job is allowing those officers is kicking in their doors, to buffer, and kill her, and shoot her boyfriend, and whether that warrant was illegal. so, he is essentially saying, i'm only responsible for what happened when the door got kicked in, not for the rest. does that sound like the impartial administration of justice to you?

>> well, it is horrific. once again, it is a sign that justice failed in that moment, and it's on his hands. he is choosing to play politics, at the expense of representing the people of kentucky, and it is disgusting. i applaud the officials, and the doj, for standing up to uphold justice, and not shirk away from the responsibility. the kentucky attorney general felt that, and thankfully, the investigation continued in the accountability that we need, as it's moving forward. >> you are from kentucky. rand paul is from kentucky. if you had heard anything from rand paul and what's happening in this case? >> we have not heard much from rand paul on, pretty much, anything, that affects our lives. we are dealing with the flood, we've experienced a tornado, we are seeing the height of racial tension in this pandemic, and rand paul is never there. even in this moment, no one expects to hear from him, which is why i will replace him. i had the chance to put my arms

around miss palmer today, to squeeze her tightly, and to listen to her, and whisper out, we got some accountability. all of us deserve to be safe in our homes. we all deserve to live out our dreams, just like breonna wanted to. i'm gonna go to the senate, and ensure that we secure a better society for our country. >> have you heard from mitch mcconnell? has he said anything about this case? >> i've not heard any response from mitch mcconnell, either. really, it is a shame. this is bigger than politics. we all need to stand up together, to say, justice is due, and everyone deserves to be safe. when injustices are committed, that there is accountability. i am ashamed for our leaders in the u.s. senate, but it's also why i'm doing my job now. >> absolutely. very quickly, how are the people, in your area, doing with these horrific floods? >> folks are devastated. we have seen homes washed away, livelihoods lost, and they're being destroyed, and in the face of the pain, they are seeing great strength,

tremendous resolve, and would detectives all about. they're leading efforts to provide relief, we are standing up for our family, and know it's bigger than any divide. so, i'm proud of what kentucky is showing, even right now. i'm in western kentucky, and what will happen with the tornado, as well. i'm asking everyone to join us, go to charles booker dot org slash crisis response, and to tell us if it works. >> thank you very much. charles booker, always appreciate having you on. that is all for now, all in with chris hayes starts right now. now. tonight, on all in. far-right european racist and antisemite strongmen. the horse of putin, and speaking at the conservative conference. >> fascism, coming to texas. yes, the poster boy of far-right politics in europe, speaking at cpac, and meeting, one-on-one, with donald trump. then, new details on the trump po