thank you all for staying with "andrea mitchell reports." here for a second hour here are the top stories we're following. china is continuing its forceful response to nancy pelosi's trip to taiwan following the live fire drills around the island now with sanctioning the speaker and a suspension of both climate talks and all military dialogue between the u.s. and china. there is more breaking news at home with the july jobs report shattering all expectations with 528,000 new jobs added. a big boost for the biden administration that could temporarily alleviate the

session fears. this hour i'll be joined by dr. anthony fauci to discuss the biden administration's response to monkey pox. the public health emergency and the impact of the most recent covid variant spreading across the u.s. we begin with the new u.s./china tensions. joining us now are nbc chief white house correspondent peter alexander cohost of "weekend today" and the former nato supreme allied commander. peter, tensions you have been tracking so closely between two major powers, the two remaining super powers, clearly es-kating. i cannot recall any time between the u.s. and china where the military behavior by china has been at this fever pitch. >> i think you're right. the escalation has increased in recent days with these live fire missile tests in the taiwan strait in taiwan's territorial waters there. so much so that just yesterday nbc news has now confirmed with white house officials the white house summoned china's

ambassador to the united states to the white house for a meeting where they condemned what the u.s. describes as provocative actions by china and reiterated to them their desire, the u.s. desire that this situation not be further escalated. the best efforts by the united states to try to deescalate the situation right now as you noted, very high tensions. the u.s. has consistently through the years tried to deal with china in very sensitive terms given this relationship. we heard from the national security council spokesperson john kirby who said among other things the u.s. was trying to lead by example in some ways as a responsible nuclear party. the white house announcing just yesterday that the u.s.s. ronald reagan the naval aircraft carrier strike group that's in that region in the south china sea would be extending its stay there but they were going to be postponing an icbm ballistic missile test in that area and then the bottom line that underscores all of this is the

u.s. communicated, has communicated publicly and privately at all levels to the chinese that the u.s. still stands by the one china policy. in effect, nothing has changed in the way they view what is going on there but they still do stand by taiwan and wanted to make it very clear what china was doing was both provocative and irresponsible, andrea. >> now land, sea, and air. how concerning is it that china at a time it has launched a nuclear sub they say in the strait, they're firing missiles over taiwan, and 11 missiles landed in the sea of japan. commercial flights are suspended or rerouted. how concerning is it that at this feverish time they've also suspended all high level military talks? all communications? >> yeah, it is very concerning obviously. by the way, it is land, sea, air, cyber, and space. you're seeing china moving in all of those dimensions putting pressure on taiwan and therefore

on the united states. so what i worry about is this, andrea. you know, cooler heads ultimately in my view are going to prevail here. we're not going to end up in a shooting war with china. 20 years ago we had a u.s. navy p-3 intercepted by chinese fighters, damaged, landed at hainan island, in effect a hostage situation for days. the point is this. up in those fighters that are potentially going nose to nose in and around taiwan, you know, that is not john kirby up there flying that jet. that's not tony blinken. it's goose and maverick. these are young men and women. they're fired up. they are highly trained. they, themselves, are at a very cognizant of the tensions ta potential for a miscalculation up there, one plane either chinese or u.s. being lit up by

a fire control radar, that is the kind of incident that could spark further escalation. and to answer your fundamental question, in this moment for china to say oh, we're going to cut off military to military conversations is very dangerous and very concerning. >> to that point, john kirby has been saying the big fear is miscalculation. once you start this and there is no question beijing started it no matter what they say about pelosi, they started the reactions, taiwan is going to respond and could miscalculate and precipitate something. the u.s. is caught in the middle, right, admiral? >> indeed. just look at a map. what the chinese are doing is sending a massive number of war ships in encircling taiwan and declaring live fire areas meaning within these zones they are firing missiles, torpedos, naval gun fire. no merchant ship is going to

want to get close to that. as a result it is kind of a defacto block aid. all of this, andrea, here is good news if we're allowed to have some. all of this supposedly is an exercise that the chinese have said will end on sunday. let's watch that closely. the next 72 hours -- >> at the same time the white house has been dealing with russia. you had tony blinken and lavrov in the same meeting sitting a chair apart from each other early this morning, 2:00 a.m. 3:00 a.m. they each had separate news conferences. first they were sitting at the same table for hours, never face to face talking about brittney griner. lavrov saying very pointedly we're willing to talk but in private through the regular channels through the white house negotiating teams. it is very pointed but maybe

promising. what do you think? >> i think you're right first of all. what is striking is there was no communication between the two of them but at least there was some agreement as antony blinken said in his comments there that he would be pursuing, the u.s. would be pursuing those channels but there are still significant challenges. for one you've heard from president biden as evidence of the pressure the administration has been feeling to do more, do whatever it can to get brittney griner and paul whelan out. the president's reaction time yesterday was stunning. literally within two minutes of that verdict being read and the sentence being announced of nine years in a russian prison for brittney griner we heard from the president saying she should be released immediately, saying it is another reminder russia is wrongfully detaining her. as you know well right now the latest sort of serious offer as the u.s. describes it is brittney griner and paul whelan the former u.s. marine would be

swapped in exchange for that viktor bout, a convicted arms trafficker. but russia has now complicated this by saying that it would like to have a spy who has been convicted of murder, russian spy, now being held in germany, released as well. the united states has brushed that off. they say it's a counteroffer that is not serious. it's done in bad faith. in the words of some senior white house officials effectively an effort to try to muddy the waters, to cloud the waters right now. so as one senior official told me just yesterday the u.s. is hopeful and will keep pressing but they do not believe something is going to happen overnight, andrea. >> and let's just point out the chinese response is linked to russia and ukraine because one of the real issues is something we may not see. the white house was very concerned they had successfully gotten china to moderate its

support for russia in the ukraine war and that the pelosi trip might screw that up frankly and now we don't know what is going to happen because so far china has not overtly been sending weapons to russia to help them in ukraine >> i am very worried about this. vladimir putin's burn rate is terrible. he's losing thousands of troops, probably 20 to 30,000 killed action. but to this point he's lost 20%, 25% of his tanks, his armor, his radars. he has to replace them. he needs drones. china could step up and support him. thus far they have not. and we talked a moment ago about the chinese military response. here would be in effect a diplomatic response. more support to putin's failing evidence in ukraine. it has the administration worried and it should. there is no quick answer here. let's hope we get through the tactical moment, get the

tensions out of the system. have the chinese war ships go home. then we can deal with the fall out from this visit which continues to be significant. >> thank you so much. peter alexander, we'll be watching you tomorrow morning on "saturday today." and signing off. kyrsten sinema agreeing to a key democratic holdout saying she will move forward on her party's health care, climate, and tax deal. with a big caveat. senator bob casey joining us next on the deal, the future of it, and more. we're watching "andrea mitchell reports." this is msnbc.

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though, removing a provision to close the so-called carried interest tax loop hole that enables hedge fund and other big deal investment managers to pay far lower taxes if any taxes in some cases. the bill now facing review from the senate parliamentarian as democrats race to pass it before august recess. they have to sign off on it before saturday's vote. joining me anonymous democratic senator bob casey from pennsylvania a member of the senate health, finance, and intelligence committees. so many things to ask you about, senator casey. thank you for coming in. first the parliamentarian has to rule that it is okay to do reconciliation. this is in the weeds. you have to get that before going to the floor and starting the lengthy process of amendments. that senator schumer wants to do in a rare saturday session which would start the ball rolling. do i have that right? to try to get this passed next week? >> yes, andrea. the process has to start with an

initial vote but the difficult part will be the so-called vote-a-rama voting on amendment after amendment. it could take a while and even a couple days but i think a lot of people understand or are beginning to understand what is at stake here. we have an opportunity in one bill to be able to make such progress on climate change by way of a significant investment of almost $370 billion to reduce emissions by 40% by 2030. that is a total game changer when it comes to our ability to push back against climate change. the other provision which a lot of americans maybe know more about is the prescription drug provision, which will reduce the cost of prescription drugs for millions of seniors. so when the same bill, when you can get lower prescription drug costs for seniors, you can lower energy costs for americans and

then reduce both the threat of climate change and the deficit it is a good bill. we have a lot of work to do to get it passed but i think we will >> i know senator sinema also wanted to add money for drought relief which is, you know, crippling the west with the heat wave, climate change. did that money get in? i talked to senator bennett yesterday from colorado your colleague saying it was critical to him, too. >> my understanding is that will also be in the bill because of some changes made in the last day or so. this is the kind of legislation where you can address a range of priorities. not everything i would want. there are other issues i would add if i had the opportunity to do that. but when you can have legislation that is going to lower prescription drug costs and energy costs and take such a giant step forward on reducing emissions, this is a good bill. the other part about it is we're

finally going to have a piece of legislation that says to a small group about 150 large corporations it's time for you to pay your fair share just like american families are paying every single day. that provides the revenue here that offsets some of the investments we have to make. >> but also offsets losing the loop hole for the hedge fund folks who were going to continue with carried interest. i want to move on to russia and ask you about what is happening right now. secretary blinken is in manila. russian prime minister says they are ready to talk about a prisoner swap for brittney griner sentenced to nine years in a russian penal colony and also paul whelan who has been there four years. one of your constituents mark fogel convicted of drug smuggling and drug possession getting a 14-year sentence in

russia. now he has not been mentioned because the state department says he doesn't qualify for that to put him in that hostage negotiation status. apparently he did break, you know, clearly broke the law and with a bigger amount of hashish he apparently took in. but nobody is mentioning him. he is a beloved teacher of the children of our diplomats in moscow and canadian and british diplomats, a veteran there. and says he needed it as medical marijuana. that is him and his wife. i think they're from the pittsburgh area. tell me, what can you do to get him into the mix? >> andrea, i think mark vogel's case is very similar to what happened to brittney griner in that the horror of that case, when we saw that outrageous sentence that was imposed upon

her just yesterday. we want to prevent the same thing from happening in mark's case. there is obviously more work to do in brittney griner's case. in the case of mark you outlined it perfectly. the reason he came into russia with medical marijuana to be able to treat an injury and at the same time is teaching the children of diplomats, has been a dedicated teacher not only years but decades. once again you have the russian federation imposing these kinds of charges and sentences on americans for political reasons. what i'm trying to do is make sure the state department provides that designation, the wrongfully detained designation the same that brittney griner

has been categorized. her case has been so categorized. we'll continue to work with the state department to urge them to do that because that designation alone will help in mark's case but we have a lot of work to do. the state department does as well. these are cases where the russian federation are using these individuals for political reasons to push against us largely i would argue because of the support we're providing to the people of ukraine. >> finally i want to ask you about, on the home front, john fetterman your candidate for the u.s. senate is finally going to have his first rally after having a stroke two days, suffering a stroke two days before the primary election, not being seen except maybe once at a fundraiser. clearly, not being very open about how bad his health was. including a heart condition.

how concerned are you that the candidate, your candidate for the senate is this frail and has not been able to campaign until next week? >> well, john is off to a great start in the general election. he had about as good a post primary time period as i've seen in recent history where he has built a strong campaign on the foundation of a very strong primary win. you know our state well and you know we have a lot of small, rural counties in addition to the big cities like philly and pittsburgh. in those small, rural communities john has a strong foundation with rural democrats and even republican voters. he has a firm foundation. he has made really good progress since he had his stroke and is starting to be able to campaign in person. i was with him two weeks ago in philadelphia for one of the first in-person appearances. he is doing well on every

indicator. and the other side i think is a messment they have a candidate that's not connecting. john fetterman is connecting and on these very issues i spoke of earlier. lowering the cost of prescription drugs, pushing back against the horrible threat of climate change. and focusing on economic strategies to lift people up, lift families up and create a lot of jobs. i think john's campaign is in good shape right now. we know the tough part is ahead. john is going to be very strong and i think he is going to win. >> okay. thank you very much. thanks, senator bob casey. appreciate it. you have a long weekend ahead of you on the senate floor. thanks. signs of strength july jobs numbers easily topping expectations as unemployment drops to an historic low. what it all means as we are dealing with record inflation, coming up. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports." stay with us. it is msnbc. is msnbc. multi+. a complete multivitamin

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following the federal reserve rate hikes trying to cool the economy which is hardly cooling. joining us now the american action forum president, also served as former congressional budget office director during the george w. bush administration. it is so good to see you again, doug. >> good to see you. >> more mixed signals from the economy. what is your bottom line? job reports healthy. we are not in recession. >> we are not in a recession. >> so the white house and janet yellen was right about that. it makes the job more complicated for jay powell? how do you land this thing? >> i think this report just gives them more ammunition to do what they've been doing. if you look at the report the one weak part of it was the unemployment rate fell by a little bit because fewer people participated in the labor force so it went down for the wrong reason. that is just another example of the gap between the available labor and demand for labor widening not narrowing. the fed is all about narrowing that gap.

and so they are going to continue down the path to high rates and this report locks in a higher rate increase in september. >> so another 3/4. >> yeah. >> but does that, you know, how do they balance this? we talk about soft landings. this is so hard to achieve. >> it is so hard that they never have. point number one, historically is not great. point number two is they are doing it in circumstances quite frankly so difficult. we have the tail end of the pandemic. we've got ukraine situation. we've got the chinese economy doing, not so sure over the next year. that is very tough circumstances in which to do this but they believe and i believe they are correct that in the end the route is to control inflation. >> you're not a politician but an economist and you know the economy as well as anybody. can they slow down inflation

appreciably in time before the midterms or is this all baked in the cake and the president just has to suffer through it? >> at this point it is baked in the cake. most people settle their views of issues three to six months out. this is settled. inflation won't be down in time for someone to change their mind about handling the economy. i think that is pretty much done. >> and the other things you can't even predict, another variant, a variant in the fall, maybe, i mean, it is a guessing game. will this booster, the omicron booster we are expecting and waiting for in september will it be effective against the next variant which is going to be here by the fall because we are already behind the curve? >> i think we don't know. it is on my worry list. it is predictable we'll have a big wave of infections and the question is how damaging will they be to the public health mission? that is a big concern.

>> how are markets and the supply chain going to react to missiles flying over taiwan and across the taiwan strait which is something we have not seen before. >> we've never seen this before. it is a moment of tension that really makes me worry not just on the international affairs front but the chinese acting out with economic policies. they are an important player in the global stage and can hurt global growth and i worry about that. >> well, reassuring and not completely but thank you. we appreciate your experience. >> thank you. >> great to see you. >> good to see you. talk about public health. a public health emergency is declared as monkey pox cases increase. dr. anthony fauci joins us next with the latest on what we need to know.

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with more than 7,000 confirmed cases now across the country. the number of positive cases doubling about every eight days since may and a major shortage of vaccines and lack luster testing. the virus is spreading beyond men who have sex with other men. there are several cases in women and children also reported. joining me now is president biden's chief medical adviser dr. anthony fauci director of the national institutes of allergy and infectious diseases. so good to see you again. thank you. thanks for coming. >> my pleasure. good to be with you. >> so what does declaring this a public health emergency do in practical terms? will that make more vaccines available? >> yeah. well, there are practical considerations, andrea, and there are symbolic considerations. the practical considerations are that when you declare a state of a public health emergency, a lot of the bureaucratic and logistic

issues good in a place of nonemergent situations are allowed to be bypassed. for example things that might take several days to get through -- paperwork, bureaucratic things -- they get pushed aside not recklessly but enough to expedite things in a manner to get things done much more expeditiously. there are many examples. things that for example you'd have to wait a week to get through the system and you can do very, very quickly. some of the things we do here at nih in the granting and contracting process that you can bypass some of the things that would be standard because of the emergent nature of it. as important as that, andrea, is the symbolic aspect of it to really show the community and everybody else that all hands are on deck and everybody is on alert that this is a very high priority issue. just the idea of declaring an

emergency goes a long way to make sure people understand this is a very high priority. >> you experienced, you know, first hand in your role at nih the stigmatization of the gay and bisexual community, the male community. during hiv aids and how you dealt with it and became a hero in your response. how do we avoid that this time? >> we do exactly what we did when we got it right finally back then. you have to engage the community and you've got to put yourself in their shoes and say how can we make it such that there is no stigma or at least a very strong alleviation of any potential for stigma at the same time that you provide directly to the

community the services that they need. and that's ample accessibility to testing. therapy without any stumbling blocks of unnecessary paperwork and bureaucratic hoops that one has to go through. and enough vaccine not only to get people protected in a post exposure preventative but in preexposure for people clearly at risk even though they haven't had a documented exposure. the way you do that and do it expeditiously is to make sure you engage the community at every single step, top down, to the community doesn't work. that's the lesson we learned from hiv. you embrace the community and get them involved in all the processes you have to do. when you do that, you

dramatically diminish the possibility of stigma. there will always be stigma in our society but you've got to minimize it very much to the extent that you can. >> can you explain how big a deal it is that the fda commissioner has now approved injections sub cutaneously? did that stretch the amount of vaccine we have available? >> yes. i'm not sure it was yet a final decision on that but they are certainly moving very strongly in that direction. what it is, is that there were studies done by my institute years ago and published in the literature in 2015, which showed that if you take that same vaccine and compare a subcutaneous injection with an intradermal which means injected very carefully into the layer of the skin as opposed to under the

skin, you can get a comparable response with one-fifth of the dose. if we can get that going and i am leaving it up to the fda to go through that and authorize it, that would save five times the doses. in other words, you could take what would be the equivalent of one dose and make that equivalent to five doses with the same effect on protection. >> did the u.s. miss the boat in making sure we had enough vaccine on this by focusing on other things? >> i don't think so, andrea. obviously you always could have done better in getting vaccines mobilized and ready to go more quickly than it was but if you look at what happened, if you look at the vaccines that were given to the states of what they had asked for, it was generally under the umbrella of post

exposure but it became very clear quickly that you needed it for preexposure also. so right now there have been about 600,000 vaccines deployed. we will soon have 1.1 million. would we have liked to have done it more quickly? of course. you can always do better. but right now looking forward we have to concentrate all our efforts to make sure everyone who is at risk of getting infected with monkey pox has the ability to get a vaccine to protect them before the fact. >> are you concerned that it is going to spread beyond that community especially with school about to reopen, people traveling so much? can it be passed along in other ways? >> yes, it can. we already know that. you've already shown the headlines on some of the news clips that you just showed.

that women and children can get infected. because although in the sexual setting of intimate contact in a sexual situation particularly men who have sex with men the close skin-to-skin contact is the modalitiy of transmissibility. there are other ways of skin-to-skin contact that are not necessarily in the sexual context. also inanimate objects, blankets, towels, things like that. now, we have not seen to any substantial degree that kind of spread beyond some individual examples. that does not mean we're going to not see more of it. so rather than panic about it we just make sure we pay close attention and take it seriously. i hope we don't see any more to a substantial degree of spread beyond what we're seeing but it

is entirely possible that we will. that is the reason why we've got to be prepared for it. >> we don't have much more time but briefly on the ba.5 variant and the booster we hope for in september is it going to be out dated by the time we get it? >> well, we never know what we're going to see with covid. i mean, history has taught us that. we are at the peak of a ba.5 which is the dominant isolate in our society and throughout the world. will that be dominant when we get to the fall? likely it still will be a challenge. will something come out and take its place? we don't know that, andrea, but we have to deal with what we have. it is very likely if it is a variant of ba.5 that the booster we're talking about will have at least some degree of coverage very likely against severe disease which is what we worry

about the most. these things are unpredictable and the only thing one can do is do the best we can and the best anticipation is that a ba.5 is about as close as we can get based on what we know right now. >> reporter: dr. anthony fauci, as always, thank you so much. thanks for being with us. >> my pleasure. good to be with you. thank you, andrea. and bringing the heat former vice president dig cheney calling donald trump a coward and threat to our republic. the impact he may or may not have coming up next. this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. msnbc. escript. astepro is the first and only 24-hour steroid free spray. while other allergy sprays take hours astepro starts working in 30 minutes. so you can... astepro and go.

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of course because of her impeachment vote and her january 6th leadership she is bringing out the big guns with a new tv ad from her father. of course the vice president of the united states. >> lynn and i are so proud of liz for standing up truth, doing what is right, honoring her oath to the constitution when so many in our party are too scared to do so. liz is fearless. she never backs down from a fight. there is nothing more important she will ever do than lead the effort to make sure donald trump is never again near the oval office. >> not mincing words. joining me now former florida congressman david jolly, "politico" editor sam stein and anita mcbride, former assistant to george w. bush, former chief of staff to first lady laura bush. welcome all. sam stein, former president trump scheduled to speak at the conference this weekend after a rally in wisconsin, a key state

there. we are hearing many of his false claims from all of the other speakers as well as a lot of the republicans elected, you know, arizona, big race in pennsylvania, some of them have been on the news i should say in arizona, michigan, pennsylvania. what is the impact of all of this? >> well, what is happening is kind of interesting here, which is trump's imprint on the republican party obviously remains pretty profound. i think the slate of elections in arizona where you see people who have denied the election results in 2020 winning the nomination is a testament to that. i think the fact that you could very well end up with two or even one house republican who voted for impeachment still in office in 2023 is also a testament to that. but at the same time what we're witnessing is trump's brand writ large has taken on a lot of damage from the january 6th committee hearings. if you are sitting in any of these focus groups involving

trump voters themselves, what they say is they're tired of all of the drama and they would like to move on. these things are obviously moving in different directions, and it is creating a bit of a bind and a crossroads for the republican party, which is can you move beyond this man who still has such an imprint and such an effect over the direction of the republican party. >> anita mcbride, how shocking is it to you for someone who was in the george w. bush administration where dick cheney was on the far right edge on a lot of policy issues and how his daughter is considered, you know, upholding the democracy, if you will, on the january 6th committee even though she is most likely going to lose her primary? >> and she very well may, but she will be standing on principle. i think at the heart of it that is what dick cheney and lynn cheney and liz cheney are all about. it is not about party and popularity. it is about principle.

and whether dick cheney was the hero on the far right or not, he stood on principle of what he thought was right for the country. so i think this is very difficult for jill -- for liz. i was just in wyoming, and what the republican voters there really worry about is they believe the republican party will take over the house in november and that she will have no stature and no committee assignments, and they only get that one representative. so that's difficult. but i applaud the vice president for doing what he thought was right. he always has, supporting his daughter and supporting principle. >> and, you know, i guess she is -- she right now is the equivalent of their senator. they want to have, you know, that voice. she's the third senator from wyoming. david jolly, what place does cpac now have within the party? because it is so different than it used to be. >> yeah, look, andrea, i think the takeaway from cpac, really two things. one, the prevalence of election denying.

this is a post-truth party, election deniers are continuing to come up through the conservative ecosystem. but i think the brace of victor orban is the takeaway, is that american conservatism is a much broader moment. i think you can make the case what we saw in dallas is the american conservative movement embracing and elevating the great replacement theory. that's victor orban theory, that mixed race countries, mixed race communities are something to be quashed and done away with. the great replacement theory is we need to protect america from black and brown immigration. the celebration of victor orban is hard to see in any other way, andrea. >> anita mcbride, it is so much in conflict with what george w. bush represented. it is white nationalism and it is anti-semitism in many instances including the pennsylvania gubernatorial

nominee. >> it is very disturbing, and i completely agree with david about embracing victor orban. you know, it is hard to imagine in the early '90s and when george h.w. bush visited hungary, victor orban was one of the emerging leaders of the push for democracy in that country. you know, look where we are -- and president bush, george w. bush, would never have embraced that type of leadership of a country and the autocracy behind it. >> for them to go out of their way, sam stein, if you want to nail this down in less than a minute? >> sure. yeah, i think david hits the nail on the head that the animating principle on the right at this juncture, two things. one is that the election was stolen from donald trump. and if you are to argue otherwise, you are seriously at risk of losing your seat. and then the second thing is

that, you know, there's a threat of anti-immigration. you know, you could call it right-wing nationalism, that basically says we need to stop migration into this country at all costs. those are the two things that bind the party together and they're the most prominent features at cpac this week. >> well, sam stein, david jolly, anita mcbride, thank you so much for wrapping up our week here today. we really appreciate it. happy weekend to all. that does it for this expanded edition of "andrea mitchell reports." remember, follow us online on facebook and on twitter @mitchellreports and chris jansing starts right after this. chris jansing starts right after this such as heart disease, diabetes, being overweight, asthma, or smoking. even if symptoms feel mild, these factors can increase your risk of covid-19 turning severe.

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