good friday afternoon to you, as we come on the air right now senate democrats are eyeing a vote on that massive tax and climate reconciliation deal. what comes next after the top senate democrat chuck schumer scored a deal that got the last holdout, arizona's kyrsten sinema to back the democrats' bill? president biden celebrating that and another win, too. why this morning's expectation-defying job numbers are silencing experts who cried recession. the president hoping to make headway overseas with russia's top diplomat hinting at negotiations for the return of wn star brittney griner and american paul whalen. that is happening as tensions boil between the white house and china. why the white house took the step of summoning the chinese

ambassador. today israel launching a serious of air strikes in gaza, who they were targeting, and the incident civilians that may have been caught up in the cross fire. good day to you. i'm peter alexander in washington. for my friend hallie jackson. and joining me now is nbc news capitol hill correspondent allie vitale and anna palmer. with great gratitude we are all inside with some air-conditioning on this stifling d.c. day. allie, let's walk through this kyrsten sinema, the deal the democrats got. talk about feeling the heat. the at democracy were very concerned how this was going to end up. republicans wither trying to peel off sinema's vote. what twos from here? what happens next? >> yeah, peter, thankfully we are going to be in air-conditioning all the rest of the weekend, too, because the senate is working both saturday and sunday now that they have senator kyrsten sinema on board. the changes she made to the

legislation, not entirely surprising for those of us who have been watching sinema throughout the negotiations over the course of the last year. you'll see them on the screen here, things that senator chuck schumer ultimately grued to in this package. they removed the carried interest provision while also making changes to the corporate tax. they also added more funding for drought prevention, and there's a new excise tax on stock buybacks. that more than replaces the revenue that would have been generated with that carried interest provision being removed. so democrats still able to say this bill, while spending on things like health care and climate change also reduced the deficit by upwards of $300 billion. now he wed to the weekend, though, and when i asked chuck schumer if it was smooth sailing ahead, he made the point, yes, he's got all 50 democrats on board buck listen to republicans and it's clear they're going make this as politically painful as possible.

listen. >> what will vote a rama be like? it will be helm they deserve this. as much as i admire joe manchin and sinema for standing to the radical left at times. they're empower legislation that will make the regular person's life more difficult. >> they're going to colot of amendment, but as i said, i believe we will have 50 votes to pass this legislation at the end of the day. >> reporter: so schumer there telling me at the end of the day he thinks the democrats are going to be able to pass this signature piece of legislation, heading into the midterms for more to show for their time, holding both congress and the white house. but a vote a rama is one of the things we have to look forward to this weekend. >> could be long nights for those of us who keep close eye on these things. anna, let's talk about the near future, the hurdles the democrats face. before they face the popping of

corks, they've got to get to a few of these things, parliamentarian to make sure this is okay for the democrats to do themselves. what else stands in the way? >> good point. as much as we see democrats celebrating the positive divide language, we haven't seen final language. the parliamentarian is still working through some of the medicare drug pricing legislation, which is really the backbone of this bill. and so that's going to be something that is going to be very closely watched here. of course these political amendments that republicans have already pledged to do. the other question that could delay things is, will a republican senator ask for the reading of the bill? that would take hours and hours. so far, indications on our sourcing is a senator like ron johnson, who may have been one of the key indicators to do that has not indicated he's going to do that. but again, the real question is, what does senator bernie sanders do? democrats believe he has with him on this, but he has been

going to the senate floor day in, day out talk about his problems with the bill, things he doesn't like, and he's also expected to offer a few amendments. the question s how hard it is? where do democrats fall on some of these amendments? at the end of the day, is there a wraparound amendment? which is wrap around jaguar ton say, all these we're watching closely could get taken away from the bill, and then they can move forward. >> bernie sanders saying if you want transformational change we have to ability to do that. this is not transformational, not big enough in his eyes. and the democrats are trying to get all these agenda items done buzz they know among other things this would really boost their chances going into the midterms. in simple terms it would give them something clear to run on that their base and a lot of republicans are behind, lower prescription drug prices, lot of americans have concern about climate change as well. president biden made sure to

emphasize one key point earlier today. take a listen. >> this bill will not raise taxes on anyone making less than $400,000 a year. >> the raising of taxes, this has been a critical point on both sides. republicans saying this is going to raise taxes on a lot of americans, even the mid class americans and the like. where are the facts on this and how crucial is it for the democrats to convince folks they will benefit from this? >> republicans clearly see they have an advantage here. whenever you're going a couple months or 95 days from the election, you know, when you look at that and then you have democrats raising taxes in general, you're going to have republicans cut a lot of ads here over the next weeks and months on that issue alone. what biden said is right. this isn't about trying to target lower or middle or higher economic brackets.

it's really the higher earner as well as at the corporate level. so democrats are going to try to push back on that, but clearly the economy, clearly whether or not we're in a recession, those are going to be some of those big issues that are going to be the undercurrents that democrats and republicans are going to be running on when it comes to the midterm election. >> anna palmer, allie vitale, we approach both of you. coming up ahead, chris van hollen is going to join us lye. i'm going ask him about how the deal with senator sinema was reached and what comes next. we'll break it down with him later. right now we want to turn to the rising tensions with china. the white house summoning china's ambassador to the u.s. to, quote, demarsh him. that's basically a diplomatic protest after china took a series of steps to punish the

u.s. for nancy pelosi's trip to taiwan. that includes halting talks with the u.s., a pause on crime work and drills in the waters around taiwan. the white house says in a statement, quote, we will not be deterred from operating in the seas and sky of the pacific, supporting taiwan and defending a free and open indo-pacific. i want to bring in andrea mitchell. let me ask you about this. it is hard to remember when tensions between the united states and china were anywhere near this high. and one of the biggest concerns officials tell each of us is the fear of miscommunication or frankly the lack of any communication that leads to a further escalation. >> you know, i can't remember any time when it has been this confrontational. and think back, in 2001, george h.w. bush had just been elected and they accidentally shot down one of our spy planes, and we went our ambassador there. it was a tough situation for a

new president, certainly, but nothing like this, because the fear now -- i was talking to the former nato extreme commander. he said they're operating in the sea, air, in space, in cyber, on land. they're firing missiles over taiwan. nine of those missiles land in the waters off japan. japan is completely rattled. commercial aircraft being detoward or canceled. and merchant marines, merchant ships are unwilling to travel in the strait because it's effectively, by the chinese warships and missiles flying, a naval blockade, a de facto blockade of taiwan. so they are squeezing taiwan, and what secretary blinken said today -- he's in cambodia at the same conference, the security conference where sergey lavrov

and other foreign ministers are -- he said china cannot use this trip by pelosi as a pretext for squeezing taiwan and trying to attack taiwan by another name. >> so, you were speaking about sergey lavrov and antony blinken. they were both in cambodia. they were a seat apart, and no words were spoken directly. another issue, the situation with brittney griner. you and i witnessed live on msnbc when that verdict came in, nine years a guilty verdict basically something the u.s. said she shouldn't have been detained for in that country. an analyst says no deal is able to take place until griner was found guilty and sentenced. may have explained why she pled guilty. this morning sergey lavrov said

his country is ready to discuss a potential prisoner swap. how fast, based on the conversations you have had, could a process like this happen, given the fact that publicly there appearing to real divisions? >> well, there are real divisions, and let's face it, we're in a proxy war over ukraine, and tensions are as high as any time since the cold war or higher, even. lavrov, as you pointed out, has not spoken to blinken, and they did not come face-to-face, even though they were so closely seated at this conference in cambodia. that said, lavrov has been saying all along, stop using your mega phone, because blinken made it public there have been talks at lower levels for months over griner. stop saying things publicly and get something done once the trial is over. well, the trial is over. she's had a terrible sentence, nine years any way russian penal colony. we don't know how far from moscow she may be taken, which

is another indicator of just how much they're about to punish her, taking her to the nether regions of russia would make it difficult for american diplomats or her own lawyers to stay in contact with her. but let's see now whether they're serious and whether they throw up red herrings like, let the germans release this assassin, this spy that was convicted of murdering a chechen in berlin. thousand him into the mix. that's not a serious officer. if they're serious, we should know soon. >> we're going to keep an eye on this. antony blinken noting today the sentencing, the conviction, there further compounds the injustice we witnessed. it was hard the hear the emotion in brittney griner's voice. andrea, thank you. still highway right here, today's headliners for cpac day two with steve bannon addressing the conservative conference just days after being convicted by a

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we're back now with breaking news, and israel is launching a series of air strikes in gaza. they have killed at least ten people, including a senior militant. that's according to palestinian officials. also among those killed a 5-year-old girl, according to the gaza health ministry. molly, how big a strike is this, and how much do we anticipate this could continue in the days ahead? >> reporter: hey, peter, this is the biggest eslation we have seen since the 11-day war last may. that death toll you mentioned from the gaza health ministry, ten people, including a senior islamic jihad manager and a 25-year-old girl. those numbers we expect may go up. we are seeing video now over the

gaza strip of continued action. we are also seeing video right now over tel aviv of the iron dome intercepting missiles fired from the gaza strip. i'll bring our audience members up to speed. for days there have been retaliatory threats issued from the this group, islamic jihad, one of the military groups that operates in gaza separate from hamas. earlier this week, peter, israel arrested a senior military commander from islamic jihad. following that, there were threats made. israel preemptively launched strikes. last week, following that arrest a senior official from the islamic jihad said they have crossed a red line, that our military is on stand by to respond to israel's crimes. israel's military said they knew attacks were coming. this is preemptive. they both said tonight, a senior

commander, a commander with the islamic jihad in the northern part of the gaza strip was killed tonight. they're targeting military targets. the gaza health ministry says, though, that death toll and injured number includes civilians. a sign of things to come tonight, the islamic jihad has just said that tel aviv will be a target. hamas said the palestine factions are ready to be united. they have no interest in a wider conflict, but we'll be watching in coming hours. >> all this a month after president biden traveled to israel and the west bank, so another security issue for the white house to watch. molly hunter, thank you. now to the alex jones defamation trial. jurors deliberating, deciding

whether he must pay punitive damages to the parent of a 6-year-old killed in the sandy hook shooting. those additional damages would be on top of the $4 million already award in the court thursday, all stemming from jones' lies about the shooting. now almost a decade ago. ann, this was one of the most awful parts of all of it is those claiming it never even happened as families were crushed by their losses. take us up to speed, if you can, on the hearing. one of today's experts i was watching laid out evidence that jones was trying to hide his wealth. >> reporter: yeah, they said he set up two shell companies. this is what a forensic economist said, and that he had a -- they basically made him a $53 million loan, but it was a loan to himself. all you're doing is moving money. and as soon as the defamation

suits were filed and there was a judgment in indeed these families were defamed, alex jones started to put $11,000 a day away, trying to -- apparently what the economist was saying was trying to hide his money. one of the big issues for the jury will be to decide just how much money was alex jones and his media company have? the economists put the estimate anywhere from $135 million to $275 million. and how much will the family get? the family's attorney asked for $145.9 million. the defense attorney suggested $270,000 would be a good number, calling that a proportional sum. peter? >> ann thompson, we appreciate your reporting on that. speak of alex joan, the january 6th committee is apparently showing some interest in this jones trial, requesting two year of his phone records

according to an attorney for the sandy hook parents. that attorney only has his record because jones' own attorney accidentally sent them to him. jones was deposed by the committee in an hours' long virtual meeting back in january in which jones says he invoked his fifth amendment right, quote, almost 100 times. we want to bring out legal analyst chuck rosenberg. this story has a lot of tentacles and play into what we have been witnessing out our window, what happened on january 6th of 2021. the committee now that's investigating that has alleged that jones played a role in organizing the rally that took place at the ellipse just below the white house ahead of the riot. what could they learn here? and could the doj become further involved? >> let me take your second question first. they're both good questions. i would imagine the doj would be very interested in the texts of mr. jones. you know, really fascinating how

they ended up in the hands of the attorneys for the plaintiffs in this civil lawsuit. but put that aside for now. we're not going to figure that out right here on television. but the department of justice would absolutely want to contemporaneous writings of mr. jones. they could be evidence in a trial against him or others. the first question, the jury would want it, too. what he do or say in the moment is the best evidence. i would imagine the january 6th committee and department of justice through the fbi and its federal prosecutors are going to want to look at those texts in fact, i'm guessing they're going to have them very soon if they don't have them already. >> is there anything that makes those, i presume not inadmissible. the point that it was accidentally sent, that's just a gold mine for the prosecution, right? >> yeah, unless there's some order for the court, and i don't know of any, telling the plaintiff as attorneys they have to return them or destroy them

because they were in providently given access to them -- but putting that aside -- and again, i haven't seen anything like that, peter. the horse is out of the barn, the cat's out of the bag. whatever cliche you want to use. those texts are going to be in the hands of investigators for the committee and for the department of justice very soon. >> you can see why that was a problem in the eyes of the defendant there, as we watched alex jones literally just sitting there, and his eyes got wide when he figured out that happened. i want to play for you some new comments by liz cheney about the doj and the former prosecution of donald trump and then i'll get your thoughts. take a listen. >> i have been very clear. i think he's guilty of the most serious dereliction of duty of any president in our nation's history. we're going to continue to follow the facts. i think the department of justice will do that, but they have to make decisions about prosecution understanding what it means if the facts and the

evidence are there and they decide not to prosecute, how do we then call ourselves a nation of laws? i think that's a very serious balancing. >> chuck, walk us through the calculation is. this just stepping up pressure on the justice department by liz cheney? >> first, i agree with her that he's responsible for an enormous dereliction of duty. dereliction of duty is not a federal crime. if the evidence supports a prosecution, then the department of justice has a second very difficult decision to make -- not the could decision, not could we charge him, but should we charge him? look, i think liz cheney is right. we are a nation of laws. nobody is above the law. so if someone breaks the law, we expect, anticipate that they'll be charged and held to account for it, peter. but this is a different and more difficult calculation. there's a part of me that just wants mr. trump to go very far

away so i never hear from him again, and there's a part of me that wants him to be held to account as anyone else would, as you our would if we broke the law. but the second question, the should question, is a really hard one for merrick guardland. they're going to have to resolve the could question first. i've said this many times, including on your show, i think that's a hard question in and of itself. liz cheney is not wrong. we are an in addition of laws, but really hard decisions ahead for merrick garland and the department of justice. >> yeah, no doubt. i think a lot of americans have very strong opinions about what should happen here. chuck rosenberg, we appreciate your time, expertise, and perspective. up next on msnbc, the one hurdle that may still stand in the way of the diplomats' massive climate and health-care and taxes package as they get ready for their first vote tomorrow. chris van hollen of maryland will join me on. that. but first, what today's stellar jobs report means about

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added. economists were expecting half the number of jobs to be added back then, and it's remarkable how strong this labor market continues to be, especially considering the fact that in recent weeks we have been talking a lot about recession, whether the economy has flipped into a recession because we saw two consecutive quarters of economic contraction. what this jobs report showed is that the labor market remains on very strong footing and that lends a report to economists and others who have been arguing that the economy has not slipped into a recession, that there's a lot of momentum in the economy, and that in order for us to be in a recession, we would have to see a significant deterioration that we haven't seen. >> one of the real channels here is going to be inflation, because wages went up a bit as well. at some point you got to slow that down or we continue on this trajectory. jake, i want to ask you about this. the u.s. has recovered, and this is remarkable, all 22 million jobs that were lost during the pandemic, so walk us through

what's driving the growth in the economy the most. i remember president trump saying if joe biden won, manufacturing would get crushed. even manufacturing numbers are up. >> it is extraordinary, peter. i mean, to look at the numbers, the pandemic is over statistically speaking. based on pandemic numbers the number is in the rear-view mirror, because each one of the industry segments you're talking about is back. leisure and hospitality, decimated by the pandemic, it regained almost 96,000 jobs. you have professional services up over 80,000. nursing and hillary clinton up around 70,000. even government jobs coming back and manufacturing, as you mentioned those sectors back. at this point there's 1.8 jobs available for every american looking for one. we do have tech companies in the bay area where i'm based

announcing plans to slow their growth or in some cases laying people off. you have big banks suggesting they're going to lay people off. there's still some warning signs, some uncertainty, but across america you are seeing incredibly strong labor markets in almost every industry, peter. >> you're hearing from some economists saying this is the lowest unemployment rate in half a century. amara, low unemployment is good, but challenging for people trying to hire people. good for a worker. but a lot of businesses are demands so high are trying to find workers and they're starting to run out of them. >> yeah, this remains one of the big challenges for the economy, how tight the labor market is, and we actually saw in today's jobs report that the labor force participation rate ticked down. that's still a worrying sign for the economy. you hear from businesses crass the economy, particularly small businesses say, they're just having a real hard time finding those workers. >> amara, where are those

workers going? if it ticks down, where are the workers going if they're leaving the labor force? >> this is a really big mystery. this is something economists are talking about. why has labor force participation rate not recovered to its prepandemic level? we see among working age, labor force parts rate go back to prepandemic levels, but overall, it hasn't fully rebounded. that could be because of retirements of older workers. older workers moved to the sidelines because of covid and many decided to ultimately retire. but this question of labor supply and tight labor markets, this is something the fed is watching closely. the fed wants to see the overall economy cool down. it wants to see the labor market also cool down a little bit, and it's just not happening as quickly as maybe some had hoped. >> we appreciate you guys making time to talk to us today. thanks so much and have a great safe weekend. back to the breakthrough on

at democracy' major health, climate, and tax package, kyrsten sinema announced she's on board but not before making changes. it removed the provision to close the carried interest loophole. adds more funding to drought protections, especially in arizona. >> with senator sinema on board, do you anticipate smooth sailing from here on out? >> look, they're going to do lots of amendments, but as i said, i believe we're going to have 50 votes to pass this lmgs legislation at the end of the day. >> joining us now, the senator from maryland, his colleague, senator van hollen. thanks for making time for us. first i want to get your take on today's jobs numbers. highest monthly gain since february buck some economists, among them president's top economic adviser during his time in the white house warping that the jobs report is uncomfortably

shot, not the sweet spot. do you have any concern about that? what does it indicate to you? >> peter, that's a good news job report. it shows, us a said, strong labor market growth. we do need to address inflation, which is exactly why i hope late they are weekend we will pass the inflation reduction act in congress. we're seeing gas prices come down. we want to bring down the cost of prescription drugs. we want to bring down the cost of energy. and by cutting the deficits, this inflation reduction act will help address those issues. so it's good to have a strong job market as we work to bring down inflation and prices. >> let me ask you about. that obviously you guys have several days ahead of you. august recess will be delayed for a lot of lawmakers. i think americans aren't complaining about that. they want to see some work get done here in washington. but there is some pushback from republicans about how this impacts inflation. the cbo said among other things

there's a negligible impact. pen said there would be a slight uptick, and then it would bring it down there after. what do you say to republicans and americans that think cia this isn't going to have the impact on inflation democrats say. >> republicans like to talk about inpolice station and use it as a campaign issue, but they're not proposing to do anything about it. the they were, they would join us in this effort. because, you know mcconnell has been fond of quoting larry summers, former secretary treasury, lately about the economy. larry summers has said this will put downward pressure on inflation. as has hank paulson, a former republican treasury secretary. so, the consensus is this will drive down prices. it will clearly bring down very high prescription drug prices, dramatically, and it will also bring down energy prices by

providing rebates to homeowners so that they can have more energy efficiency in their homes that will drive down heating and cooling prices. so, in some specific areas they will go down faster, but even overall, this will put downward pressure on inflation. >> let's me talk to you in more detail about what kyrsten sinema wanted out of this. one of the changes deals with the carried interest provision. basically it's preferential treatment for hedge fund managers and private equity executives. that's how. why lose that? >> well, peter, i supported closing this loophole, the carried interest hoop hole. as you just said, it's a great tax boom to hedge fund owners where they pay lower tax rate than the people who work for them. so i'll continue to push for that, but in term of this package it was replaced alarmly by a 1% tax on stock on buybacks

and toks buybacks overwhelmingly support wealthy people as well, including a lot of foreign and u.s. companies. so, that swap does not do any harm to the overall structure to this bill. >> let me ask you, senator, finally, big picture, what do democrats do about the sort of paradox of this presidency? on the one hand you have significant bipartisan wins -- guns, infrastructure, semiconductors. the president is supposed to sign that next week. this package if passed would be done only by democrats but a big win for the par ity. and on the other hand you have the president's really low approval ratings and some democrats not wanting to campaign with the president of the united states. how do democrats overcome that heading into these midterms? >> i'm always glad to have president biden here in the state of maryland. i think you will see those numbers begin to rise, both because of the many

accomplishments you have seen in a short period of time plus the action that i suspect we will take and get the votes for on the inflation reduction act. and elections are all about comparison between the two positions. and republicans have simply talk about inflation. they're doing nothing about it. and of course we see the extremism on the republican side. and voters in kansas just the other day sent a very strong message. you know, they don't want politicians taking away their reproductive rights. you've got a whole range of issues in this election that i think are beginning to break democrats' way. >> senator chris van hollen of maryland, we appreciate you making time. nice to speak to you. thank you so much. >> likewise. thanks. coming up, back on the trail. pennsylvania's democratic nominee for senate john fetterman announces his first rally since having a stroke. how his republican opponent is responding. the scenarios opponent is responding

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fetterman has continued to gain ground even as recovering. >> we have been waiting for this announcement for quite some time now. he's been off the trail since just before the primary back in may. we did see him briefly. we were the first media to see him in person. we were interviewing his wife gisele in june, and he dropped buy in his open-air jeep, said hello, told us he was feeling well. his wife gisele told me she expected him to be back on the trail in july. july came and went, and here we are. but next friday, august 12th, he will step on to the stage at a rally in erie, a key bellwether county. i just spoke to his campaign, and their spokesperson told us after this rally to kick things off he'll hold smaller for intimate events with voters his spokesman tells me this is exciting, what fetterman loves to do, and he's been missing as he's been home bound the last

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day two is well under way and this year conspiracy and controversy are center stage. speakers so far have included the 2020 conspiracy theorist, mike lindle, the my pillow gie and steve bannon was in contempt of congress who refused to comply with a subpoena from the january 6th committee. the 2024 convention will be held in milwaukee, wisconsin, and joining me live with the latest on all of it in cpac and dallas. nbc news reporter gary gompac. steve bannon not the only big name. what's the central messaging from the conservatives you're hearing on this stage? >> they've painted a dark picture of what america looks like right now. we've heard conspiracy theories

and on stage behind me is representative andy biggs and cash patel discussing what happened on january 6th or what they think happened on january 6th and there's been back and forth with the audience, as well. we are hearing from elected officials and we heard from marjorie taylor-greene discussing 2020 election lies. we heard from rick scott who said this country is going so downhill he doesn't recognize it anymore and we heard from ted cruz who has colorful language about democrats. here's what he had to say. >> it occurs to me that the biden fbi believes this is a room of dangerous radicals. and you know what? they're right. there is nothing more dangerous to a bunch of power hungry, abusive, totalitarian nimwits than a free and empowered and

energized american people taking our country back. >> now, he was fired up there on stage and the folks here and the attendees at cpac are fired up, too. they share very similar views. i had one woman crying to me when i asked her about the direction of the country. peter? >> gary grumbach. viktor orban, who made controversial statements saying his country should not become a mixed race country. he said the same for the united states as well, almost as fiery as a former president trump speech that we remember well. gary grumbach and we appreciate you watching live coverage of this hour on msnbc. "deadline: white house" starts right after this break. house" s right after this break

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>> hi there, everyone. it's 4:00 in washington. i'm michael steele in for my friend, nicole wallace. so we're in the midst of what could be a watershed moment for the republican party that donald trump's transformation of the republican party is complete. the ex-president himself is to speak at the conservative conference tomorrow and viktor orban, the