post-roe alabama. during my time here, i was granted an exclusive look inside one alabama clinic, determined to provide care, forced to stop providing abortions, or even referring patients to abortions in other states. that is coming up later in the hour. but we begin this hour with the breaking news unfolding 800 miles away from where i stand. in washington, d.c., after working through the night right now, the senate is still working through the amendment process for the inflation reduction act. it appears to be nearing a vote on the full bill. the inflation reduction act is a major piece of democratic legislation, and generally provides new funds to fight climate change, reduce prescription drug costs and remove some tax loopholes. look at mentioned, i am in tuscaloosa for today's special edition of velshi. i have not been able to get through the 755 pages of the bill which was released late last night. like for us, nbc news intrepid news team has. i want to dive into it a little bit. upfront, the bill is the largest climate investment in

u.s. history, putting forth more than 300 billion dollars for climate clean energy investment, including a methane reduction program, which rewards farmers and ranchers for reducing methane emissions. environmental justice block grants, a climate bank provision to make investments in clean energy technology, and energy efficiency. an extension of the electric vehicle tax credit. guaranteed wage rates for clean energy jobs, in four billion dollars for drought funding, one of several items of the democratic arizona senator kirsten sinema negotiated into the bill in order to end her hold out for. it on drug pricing, the inflation production act gives medicare the power to negotiate some prices with drug companies for the first time, with the goal of lowering prescription drug costs for seniors. however, a provision would've kept the price increase for prescription drugs in the commercial market, but penalizing companies, was blocked by the senate parliamentarian. she said it could not be done in this bill, in this fashion.

that provision was intended to prohibit drug companies from raising prices at a faster rate than inflation, for those who are covered with private insurance, which is most people who work in the united states. the bill contains a provision extending subsidies for obamacare through the 2024 elections. on the tax reform side, the legislation closes several loopholes used by the wealthy to avoid paying taxes. it does not close the carried interest loophole, which is essentially a way for people who make money, using money like hedge fund and private equity managers to pay lower taxes on their income, and wage earners to. closing the carried interest loophole as a major priority for democrats in the bill. however, senator sinema fiercely fought against eliminating the protection for the wealthy, and cutting it from the legislation wasn't the only ways to secure her support, which was needed to ensure the passage of this bill. something that sinema suggested instead, which is in the bill, is a 1% excise tax on stock buybacks. also, the bill mandates a 15% minimum tax on corporations.

now, joining me live in washington, coach of the l.e.d. club, oliver talley, author of the upcoming book, electable: why america has not yet put a woman in the white house. ali, we are one hour beyond where we were, one hour ago. is the end even in sight for this point, in the vote-a-rama going on on the senate for? >> we are working through it, watching the senators on the floor, continue to take votes. but there is still about one dozen left, just in this tranche of amendment votes. look, we still have several more hours to go over here, ali. but i love the fact that you read our notes, of course, but can explain what is in this bill so flawlessly. because what we are seeing the senators do now, in all of these amendment votes, he's effectively not vote for amendments so that they do not impugn the integrity of that bill. so they don't change anything in it that could effectively topple someone for voting for it who already said they will vote for it. they don't want to see any changes inside of it.

there are two things inside that are interesting. just a few minutes ago we saw senator raphael warnock of georgia offer an amendment on the floor, not entirely notable except for the fact that democrats were trying not to offer amendments during this process. all of the votes we've seen except bernie sanders, have all been offered by republicans. but we're not offering a vote that is health care related, and is not said the obama care subsidies. [noise] expected to fail, at least one adult our senate boot, that's who they were voting on. that's really interesting things that is happen over the course [noise] of the last hour [noise] is another thing we are looking for in these votes, this one is expected to come up in just a few hours, depending on how quickly we are moving on this, is whether or not the end up voting on an insulin related provision that the parliamentarian had said did not comply with the rules, but they might have to figure it out on the floor in realtime, something related to insulin price caps that might be

stripped out of the bill but maybe they can vote to keep in the bill. it is pretty unclear how this will shake out, if they will try it, how it will go down. that is something we are looking at here as well, even in the larger [noise] fact that democrats, as we are talking about last hour, they just don't really want to rock the boat here, none of these amendments have passed [noise] >> we don't expect them to, but the one on insulin, that's the one we are looking for, it could be interesting from a democratic perspective. >> so, big deal. 7.4 million americans use prescribe insulin in some form or another. we watch closely for that one, thank you very much, ali vitali from capitol hill, staying on top of the voting. there's something we will be done today, but we will see what happens. now join me to better understand exactly what is in the bill, msnbc's very own steve bannon, a longtime producer for the rachel maddow show. he is the editor of the fantastic maddow blog. the author of the impostures, how republicans quit governing and seized american politics. steve, let's stay on the health

care stuff that's coming up. two of the main things in the bill, climate, we will talk about that shortly. let's talk about the health care stuff, the stuff that's going on to negotiate some prices of some drugs, to put a cap on those prices, it is novel, breakthrough in america. it is not novel and breakthrough in most other industrialized countries. governments or government type entities have always been able to negotiate prices for the most common expensive drugs. we might be nearing a breakthrough on this. >> that is exactly right. democrats have prioritized this for many years. the obama administration for example, has tried to put up with this exact same issue, they got severe resistance obviously, from the pharmaceutical industry as you can imagine, those lobbyists were ultimately successful. however, this year, this could be a real breakthrough, this is something the democrats have prioritized, it appears they will get it done. it will not cover all prescription medication, but in the coming years, we will cover the most expensive medications.

that will be a real benefit to millions of seniors. >> there was a lot of talk about tax in this bill. kirsten sinema did not want the carried loophole eliminated. she proposed an excise stack on talks, stock trading, but there is 90 on corporate tax, on companies. looks like that will go through, but not in as robust a fashion as it would have otherwise. democrats, republicans are not interested in this, but it looks like it may happen? >> that is exactly right. republicans, not surprisingly, how sided with corporations when it comes to corporate taxes. these are the same republicans who slashed corporate taxes in the first year of trump's presidency. democrats said this is a key element of trying to finance the entire package. they want to propose this 13% corporate minimum tax. keep in mind, the corporate tax rate right now is 21 in the united states. as you and i both know, many very wealthy corporations, which make billions of dollars a year, and paying effectively nothing. this is about establishing a

floor, saying no you can't have a tax rate below 15%. yes, the implementation of this will be complex, there will be ways a corporation will try to find their way throughout it. but, taking a look back, looking at this from the full picture, i think this is a key element of the bill, it will be very effective. >> you heard ali vitale talk about this insulin thing. i talked to debbie stabenow, senator from michigan, when our, go who is very pleased to talk about the prices on insulin. republicans seem quite determined, this is pressure from the pharmaceutical industry. debbie stabenow makes the point, insulin was invented in canada, given patent free to the university of toronto more than 100 to go. there's no particular reason for the prices some people pay for insulin, except that we have a free market system in the united states. where do you think we stand with this insulin provision? >> i wish i could say i was more optimistic. raphael warnock, among other things, the democratic leaders have made a strong effort to

include this in a reconciliation package. as you said a moment ago, the parliamentarian said it is not eligible, these arcane reconciliation rules. if republicans were on board with this, they know the bill will pass. if they did, say ten republicans were to endorse this provision, he would ultimately be included in the bill. but i think in all likelihood, it's more likely we will see zero republican support, which will make it even wider, a key benefit for so many. realistically speaking, it's almost certain that it's a severe disappointment for many, but we will see however, i think it's important, democratic leaders want to say they get every one on the record on this. we will see a vote in the coming hours on this provision. but realistically, the likelihood of getting the ten republican votes, the odds are not great. >> one of the most common flinches an american diabetes. the inflation reduction act, there is a deficit reduction

part of this bill. but it has not been costed out yet. we don't actually know what the numbers are on this. he's that problematic or not? do you think if democrats past this, it will be so good people will not worry about the exact math on it, in the end? >> i think the numbers look pretty solid. we look at the congressional budget numbers on this. >> the proximity three and 70 billion dollars in expenditures, approximately three and 40 in revenue, that's a difference of 300 billion dollars. that we apply to deficit reduction. i think that there is some debate on whether or not, enforcement of the irs, them enforcing tax laws would generate the exact numbers the democrats are saying. but i think on balance, we look at all of the numbers, i think the finances looked pretty solid. we are seeing about 300 billion dollars in savings in the coming years, all of which will be applied to deficit reduction, and as counter inflationary, a key element of the bill. >> and of course, if it results in the extra employment, we are

hoping it does, that could also help bring down the deficit. good to see you as always, u.s. retired as well, you have been watching this closely. steve benen is the editor of the maddow blog, producer for the rachel maddow show. still ahead, the key state that roe attorney generals play in the abortion act. first, i have an opportunity to tour the west alabama and center, foretold abortion services the day roe v. wade was overturned. the staff are determined to keep the clinic open to provide other critical care. but when i arrived at the address for the abortion clinic, i found another facility right next door, which called itself choices. but that is a lie. >> they pretend to usually be medical centers. they often locate themselves right next to, or across the street from places that provide abortion. and they specifically do that as a means of trying to get people who are going to abortion clinics to come to their place instead. eir place instead.

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alabama for the past few days, getting a lay of the land on what the post-roe antiabortion regime looks like. earlier in the week, i spoke with a group of advocates, doctors and abortion providers about the work that they do to protect women and reproductive rights in a state with one of the most oppressive abortion bans in the country. you will hear more of that conversation fairly soon. but the next logical place for

me to visit in order to get the full picture was the west alabama women's center. the clinic provides crucial health care to the community. prenatal care, contraceptive care, annual exams. and before the fall of roe v. wade, abortion. the critical lifeline is determined to keep its door open, despite not being able to provide or advise patients on abortions. just over a month ago, the west alabama's women's clinic was bustling with activity, for all of the wrong reasons. the supreme court opinion overturning roe v. wade has just leaked. one week before the decision formally came out, one week before a ban on abortion took complete hold in alabama, patients flocked to this clinic, before it was too late for them. and in this tiny, yet mighty clinic, they saw 75 patients in one day. >> as you walk around this clinic, you will notice we are not very big. >> no, where were people? >> exactly. >> how many groups did you have them in? >> that's what we did. we ended up having people come in in groups. so we would have tenant come in

every hour. our nurse would sit here, and would council everybody in this room. by this point, when people were here, the next group of ten are starting to filter in and go through their. and then, once these people were in counseling -- >> so you would have ten people in here? >> well, 11 because of the nurse. yes. >> that is robin marty by the way, the operations director of the west alabama women's center. she does incredible work. when i pulled up to a clinic yesterday, i was a little confused, turned around. i initially pulled up to a facility with a different name. the choices pregnancy clinic is next door to the west alabama women's center. despite what its name might employ,'s is not its foreplay. it's not as a present center, they persuade pregnant people don't get abortions. they're often located right next door across the street from clinics that to provide abortions, and their names are almost always misleading and disingenuous. and that is intentional.

>> we had an incident with a person who came to us from texas. she had called the wrong place. she called their center instead of our center. and she drove from houston ten hours, in order to get here. came into the clinic at about 2:00 in the afternoon and only then did she find out that no, they did not provide abortions. they did not tell her that when she set up her appointment. also, they did not tell her that in alabama, a person has to have an initial appointment with an ultrasound, counseling. they then need to leave for 48 hours. only then can they come back, after that 48 hours has passed and have their procedure. so this person had traveled all day to get to an appointment that was meaningless only to find out that she was going to have to make another appointment, with us, and then go home, drive back ten hours,

go and spend another couple of days at home, where she can return and actually have her abortion. so that was three trips for her, all because they did not tell her on the phone, they did not provide abortions. >> i will bring you much more of the fascinating discussion with robin marty, and a closer look into the west alabama's women's center next week on all of all she. coming up, who decides whether a state can maintain safe abortion access? the answer might surprise you. we are monitoring the slow progress on the senate floor as lawmakers cast their votes for the amendments on the inflation production act. you are watching velshi. ng velshi. ♪ i've been everywhere, man ♪ ♪ i've been everywhere, man ♪ ♪ of travel i've had my share, man ♪ ♪ i've been everywhere ♪ ♪♪

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riders! let your queries be known. uh, how come we don't call ourselves bikers anymore? i mean, "riders" is cool, but "bikers"...is really cool. -seriously? -denied. can we go back to meeting at the rec center? the commute here is brutal. denied. how do we feel about getting a quote to see if we can save with america's number one motorcycle insurer? should flo stop asking the same question every time? -approved! -[ altered voice ] denied! [ normal voice ] whoa. >> since roe v. wade is overturned, we have seen attorney generals around the country take the lead in deciding whether or not to enforce their states abortion laws. attorney generals in states like missouri and alabama took swift action to allow abortion ban to take effect within hours

or days of the supreme court's ruling. at the same time, we've heard from attorneys general in states like michigan, who vowed not to enforce pre-existing abortion laws. while kansas might have dodged one attempt to take an abortion loss last tuesday, it doesn't mean they are entirely in the clear. the future of abortion rights in kansas might be shaped by who is elected as the states next attorney general, and how they are willing to prosecute abortion providers. back in 2002, kansas elected feel klein as its attorney general. immediately upon taking office, he made investigating abortion providers a top priority in his department. he set his sights on one man in particular, doctor george taylor, a wichita-based physician, one of the few people in the country who performed late term abortions. but made doctor taylor a prime target among the anti-abortion movement. that point, he had already been subject to decades of harassment, violence from extremists, including an assassination attempt in 1993. and the bombing of his clinic in 1986.

as the attorney general, klein opened a secret investigation on dr. taylor, pursued him and other kansas providers aggressively. he was accused of ethical misconduct, and ultimately lost his reelection bid, and his law license in kansas. but one of the threads that bill cline pulled, one of the investigations he began into dr. taylor culminated in a misdemeanor case against killer that was prosecuted by klein's democratic successor. the case concerned the protocol it till are used for getting referrals for certain abortions. taylor always maintained it was a sham, and he was acquitted by a jury in march of 2009. but the smear campaign against george taylor was fierce, ugly, and his case was seen as a miscarriage of justice by antiabortion extremists who really wanted to see him dealt with. one sunday morning, two months after dr. taylor's acquittal, a man who is in the short -- courtroom for his trial, walk to the church where doctor till it was a member, serving that morning as an usher and he shot

doctor tillar in the head at point blank range, killing him. george chillers murder was apprehended, prosecuted, and admitted it watching injury exonerate doctor taylor is what spurred him to take matters into his own hands. doctor killers murder is an extreme, but not a unique example of the violent history of the anti-abortion movement. abortion providers have long been targeted by extremists, both in and out of office. really it only takes one overzealous attorney general like phil klein, or anyone in a position of power to overstep their boundaries and develop a justification for prosecuting abortion rights advocates. overturning roe has just made that exponentially easier to do. so while kansas voters rejected the antiabortion ballot measure this past tuesday, the state will likely remain on the front lines of the abortion wars, and the battle in kansas, across a host of other states, now hugely depends on who wins key state races in november. back to kansas, for example. the republican primary for attorney general was won by the

states former secretary of state, chris kobach, a man who was promised to quote, make kansas the most pro-life state in america. joining me now is chris man, the democratic candidate for attorney general in kansas, facing off against kris kobach and the general election this november. thank you for joining us, we appreciate, chris. i wanted to outline for the audience, for people breathing a sigh of relief they saw kansas go out last week and vote against this reversal of rights, that is not the end of the game by any shot for people in kansas as it relates to abortion rights. >> well, thank you for having me, ali. like you said. >> we seem to have an audio issue with chris man. i will ask my control room to check in with that.

chris man is the democratic candidate for attorney general in kansas. >> i am here. >> have i got him back? okay, i got you back, chris. i hear your voice. sorry, start again. we did not hear any of that. >> yes, sorry. thanks for having me, ali. like you said, my name is chris man. i am a lifelong kansas, former police officer, prosecutor running for attorney general, focusing on public safety and not politics. the people of kansas have spoken and delivered a clear message. they want to protect constitutional rights, freedom for women to make their own private medical decisions. they don't see this as a partisan issue. we believe that women can make decisions like this for themselves, their families, they should be able to do it without interference from politics. people have made their position clear. as attorney general, my focus will be on public safety. i have spent an entire career serving kansas communities, and that is what i plan to bring to

this. >> well, something i learned in the last few days in alabama, is in fact, be overly strict interpretations of this abortion ban, in a place like alabama result in a compromise public safety for a lot of women, women who might think they have miscarriages, women who are having difficult pregnancies are now thinking they might fall into the legal system and want to stay away from it. >> nobody should use the attorney generals office for political purpose. it is a law enforcement office. it should be used to protect. that's why career politicians should not be in this office. >> you call your opponent kris kobach a threat to democracy. now, we hear that sort of thing a lot in the last few years in america, particularly after the 2020 election. why do you think so it particular reference to kris kobach, your opponent? >> look, chris has spent his

entire career pushing his agenda in kansas and across the country. he has been millions of taxpayer dollars and it is causing others millions as well. he is a politician, not a law enforcement officer. kansans want a leader who shares their values. as a former police officer in prosecutor, i just want to keep kansas families safe. novak is more interested in making a name for himself -- i'm going to focus on helping the people in need. >> chris, we appreciate you taking time for us this morning. christmas is the democratic candidate for kansas attorney general i want to note that we will invite the republican opponent on the show as well. kris kobach and i have talked to -- and discuss these matters with me. right after the break, my conversation with laurie hall's anderson, author of the book speak so many of you have written in about the powerful

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whatever you say. melinda sardinia, the protectionist of lower house innocence warning of all speak begins her first day of high school with seven new notebooks, a skirt i hate, and the semi cake. she walks the hallway tormented by a dark secret. she was raped to the party over the summer. shocked in honor of what to do

in that moment, she called the cops. but you could not say the words out loud. she could not verbalized the violation. the police arrive at the party anyway, bringing up some kids were under age drinking. but linda is bullied in ostracized by her former friends and her classmates. by great, six she falls into a depression. and even self harms. melinda turns in on herself as she struggles to come to terms with what happened to her. she literally cannot find the words written as a stream of consciousness with limited pointed dialogue, speak poignantly explores the immediate aftermath and emotional repercussions of sexual assault. speak grapples with isolation, appearance versus reality, and the power of kindness. from all of the books darkness, there is like as well with a last few chapters, it is evident that melinda can and is beginning to cope with her trauma. she takes control in numerous ways. even by facing her attacker directly. the most crucial, she

eventually regains her voice. the power of your story, have your voice, is a version-ing -- in the book speak. it shouldn't be no surprise that speaks appeared on the american library association's top 100 banned books since its publication in 1999. climbing higher on the list each year is the voracity behind the call to remove speak from school syllabus. and library shelves that have not seen, for many other banned book club features. here is one example of many. 2010, an associate professor missouri state university challenged speak in an op-ed entitled, filthy books, demeaning to our public education. writing in, part quote, as another school year begins our public schools, parents need to be cautious and inquire as to the nature of the material that their children may be exposed to, in high school english classes, children are required to read and view material that should be classified as soft pornography. one such book is called speak. and quote.

let's look at the implication that, speak which is a young adult novel, is not appropriate for high school or middle school aged children. according to rain, the world's largest anti sexual assault -- , fema's age 60 1904 times more likely than the general population to be victims of sexual assault. in speak, it is a teenager who experiences the assault at the hands of another teenager. it is a teenager who finds the courage to finally speak out. and it is a real teenage survival and i find strength and solace to be reading speak. this sends a clear message that these topics are not to be discussed. there is something that should be kept silent. oh, the irony. some of categorized speak as a cautionary tale, but i don't think that is. true speak is not really a warning of the danger of bookie

parties for a high school aged children, in asia darkness that will always be and has always been there. reading books like speak offers a safe passage forward. opening the possibility for, exploration conversation and perhaps for some, even inspiration. welcome lori halls anderson to the velshi banned book club. author and groundbreaking -- of the groundbreaking. speak and, now the new memoir shout, speakers heavily honored in the actionable report for young people to look at your 1999. as well as the golden report for fiction winners. laurie, thank you, and welcome to the velshi banned book club. >> it is my honor. thank you so much for the opportunity. >> you included a note on censorship. on the very last page of the 20th anniversary edition of speak. you included concluding with the statement, our children cannot afford to have the truth of the world withheld from. them they need to us to be

brave enough to give them great book so they can learn to be the great man moment we want them to be. your book is so heavily challenged. >> which just, it defies understanding, to be honest with you. sexual violence is something that all of our children are going to want to -- come across in some form and their lives. and you would think people would find the educational system, as well as holmes, the right place to talk about these things. our kids need us to have the courage to talk about things that many parents are uncomfortable with. and i get, that i understand that fully. we did not have parents who need to talk to us about these things. but when we came, putting the sexualities, not just books about sexual violence, but also lgbtq books, books that feature protagonists that are not white, that are not -- just all this consolation of books that are under attack right now.

when we keep them away from our children, we are withholding wisdom from our kids. when we do this we are making life harder for children, and we are damaging our nation. >> why, in a world where all this information is so readily accessible, on the internet, are we not getting better? this when you say our parents weren't equipped of these conversations with us, you are right. but this 2022 now, you are you back in 1999. why would better these particular issues? sexual assault continues to happen to young people, including young girls. >> and young boys, sexual assault happens to all. people of every gender identity and i think it is just because in this country we are so good at using sex to sell products. we know how prevalent pornography is. but we've never been able to find the way to have a responsible conversation about basic human sexuality.

about consent based sexuality. there are many other kinds of -- the do not to do, this for the record. but we are definitely lagging behind, here. >> you actually make a point of. this in, fact some of the criticism of your book, including the one that you just read, was about the fact that it is pornography. and then a young adults should not reject having to read this part of their syllabus. and you argue that somebody is just misunderstanding this, if you are writing about sexual assault as pornography. >> i responded to that op-ed with my own and said they if there is anybody who finds the rape of a 13 year old pornography has larger issues that i can't help them with. . that is where we get into the weeds on these things. we have to take a step back away and say if we are going to be responsible adults, we know as kids enter their teenage years, we are now to talk about

things that make us uncomfortable. we are really grown-ups. it is our responsibility to provide kids with the information that will help them succeed through their teenage years. but also succeeds as adults. if we are not going to talk to them about sexual violence just as they are going through puberty, when are you going to talk to them? are you gonna wait till your kids come home from -- i really think the solution to this is not to be found on the internet, ali. i think the solution is to be found in community. i would love to see community book clubs. i would love to see faith-based community look clubs, where adults can read these books making them feel a little uncomfortable. this would be a great pca project, by the way. and start talking together. this is part of the reason i wrote my memoir shout. which is aimed at teens, but also adults. to give us all the language,

because we are all feeling a bit stifled for different reasons. and using, stories using books, that is the age old way to get better at things. that is how we share our, wisdom our values, our ethics. information. by creating literate citizens. that is how we take our country to the place it should be. >> you talk about your mom or shout. it is a and the more that details your own experience with sexual assault at the age of 13. you said before that writing speak helps you find your voice just like your protectionist, melinda. can you talk more about how speak led to shout? >> absolutely. i never thought that speak would be published, so that is still something i am grappling with. but it did help me, as my oldest child was hitting the same age i was when i was, right age 13. when i really realize that i had to process and get some help from some very old wounds

that i was still carrying inside of me. and out of that asking the writing of speak, which is not my story. it is a fictionalized account of what it felt like to go through sexual violence. and not be able to talk about it. the next 20 years on the road visiting schools around the country, around the world. and hearing from our teenagers about how much things have not changed. since i was 13, since speak came out, we still have generation after generation of kids that lack the language to talk about sexuality. and to have honest conversations, to know, how do i negotiate consent? what does that look like? when speaking out, i thought, okay, maybe we use speak as a way to protect or help young girls. i was thinking in a very binary binary fashion back then. but when i wrote, shout which was maybe a bit older and a lot angrier, i recognize the responsibility to all of our kids. because the perpetrators of

sexual violence against teams tend to also be teens. so we are harming all of these kids that we are told about this. >> laurie, thank you for this, we really appreciate it. lori house anderson is the author of speak and now shouts. important books have been around for a long time, and continue to get on a challenge and banned list, they make more people buy and read your books as a result. lori helps, anderson appreciate you being there. if you know somebody, by the way, who's been a victim of rape, or attempted, rape or sexual assault, there are hotlines to help. rain runs a confidential hotline, the number is on the screen. i will put this on my twitter account as well. joining me, now fresh from the ongoing marathon vote on the senate floor, is the senator bernie sanders in vermont. thank you for making time to come away. i understand you are heading towards another vote at some point.

where do we stand in this bill, and tell me a little bit about your objection to it. you are going to vote in favor of the passage of this act. if you do speak against it, and propose an amendment. >> this country faces enormous crises in terms of health care. the high cost of prescription drugs. child claire, higher education. climate. income and wealth inequality. this is what we call a reconciliation bill. what this means is that we only need 50 votes. we only need republican votes, to do something significant for working families in this country. and unfortunately for fairly well-known reasons we have two conservative democrats. we could not get the 50 votes that we need, really, to impact the needs of working families. so i have offered a series of amendments that strengthen the bill, which have not succeeded. the bottom line is that you

have a bill which does some good things. we put some 300 billion dollars into clean energy and at the time when we face an existential threat in terms of climate change, this is a step forward. but on the other hand, as part of the deal, we are allowing oil and gas companies the opportunity to drill on millions of acres of public water and land. could be more tax breaks and corporate welfare to the oil industry. there is a reason why bp and shell, two of the largest oil companies in this country, are supporting the bill. in terms of prescription drugs, this legislation takes a very baby step forward. we paid by far the highest prices in the world on prescription drugs. in some, cases you will, now we've talked about it ten times more than canadians. this bill does is say that the medicare should negotiate prescription drug prices, but only after four years.

and they start off with only ten drugs, and go from. there it is a very modest step forward. the bottom line is, i'm going to support the bill. because given the crisis of climate change, the environmental community says that this is a step forward. he does not go anywhere near as far as it should. but it is a step forward. >> >> obviously of all the matters in there, these two issues, whether be climate or health care, are nearing dear to both of our hearts. i want to talk specifically about some of the things he wanted to do. you wouldn't, amendment 50 to 10, requiring that medicare not pay more than the va. tell me what that was meant to do? >> this is a very simple amendment. right, now i don't know anybody knows this, for 30 years, 30 years, the veterans administration has been negotiating prescription drug prices with the. similar to what's canada, with countries all over the world to. the result is that the va pays half as much for prescription drugs as medicare.

how insane is it that in one federal government you have the va paying 50% of what medicare is paying for prescription drugs. all of my amendments stated, you know what, medicare should not pay anymore than va. with a open doing for 30 years. when you take on the pharmaceutical industry, you take on the most powerful lobby here in washington d.c.. they have alimta the mount of money to make sure we pay originally high prices. 1700 paying lobbyists. bottom line is, this legislation is a baby step forward, and it does not go as far as it should. >> you had another amendment that caught my interest, and this is the establishment of a civilian climate core. what does that mean? >> what that is about is the bill put 300 billion dollars into clean energy. it is a good, thing that's probably the best thing on the bill. by the, leaders as you well know, in america and all over

the world, the people who have been leading the effort to take on the fossil fuel industry, and to transform our energy system, they are on the streets, they are demonstrating and demanding a disinvestment from fossil fuel companies. they have been the lead up. and with these young people want to do is they want to be able to oral up their sleeves and go to work. in doing energy efficiency, sustainable energy. and what this legislation is about, they've had in the original build back better bill, it provides 30 billion dollars in help to provide good jobs to some 400,000 young people, educational benefits. and it, says we need your. help help us to transform our energy system. it would, have i believed, craig lot of good stuff. >> senator, before i let you go, there is definitely new energy in the air. possibly around the supreme court case having to do with jobs and roe v. wade.

they are getting people to turn out for these primaries, and getting them to work. you said there are things, whether with health or climate, but a big steps in this bill. do you have an impression that perhaps in these midterms or the next few years there will be an energy behind more than baby sets when it comes to climate and health care in america? >> i worry very much that the democrats have not done as much as they should in terms of responding to the needs of working families -- they are losing white working class votes. black working class voters. latino working class voters. on the other, hand with this supreme court has done probably inadvertently when they say that no woman in the entire united states of america has the right to control her own body. man, that is a signal all of this country from kansas to vermont all over this country. so i think when you have seen here is a real response to that disgraceful decision, and that

people are going to be saying, you know what, it is not governments that to tell a woman how she controls the right of her body. it is the woman herself. and i think that you want to see increased voter turnout. and i think the republicans may regret, very much, what the supreme court has done. >> so, they're good to see you, thank you for taking time away from the floor. i know you've been working for a long time and probably have many hours out of the. senator bernie sanders, independent of. ahmaud stay with us for more after this quick break from the senate floor. te floor no regrets. for you and emily. these are... amazing. thank you wayfair. how's the puppy? puppy's perfect. yeah great decision! ♪ wayfair you've got just what i need ♪

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beautiful -- i was gonna say alabama, but the senate floor. the senators continue to debate, is been now ten or ten eight hours of debate. they're proposing amendments to the inflation production act. once they are ready, these amendments will be 50 votes to pass, but none of them are passing because democrats have decided to stick together. it is delay tactic, but hopefully will be done a few hours in the bill will pass. i'm in alabama, i've had a few days here of amazing and i've been discussion with people about the abortion situation. in this state. and to ramp up this, hour i'm joined by molly john fast, the author of, wait what. the way what newsletter.

molly, thank you for being with us. i don't know if you are the conversation with bernie sanders, but he was lamenting the things did not get done with the bill. he wanted something else, when it's something more of something else. does not love something that was in their. but generally speaking, or pleas that something good is happening if not -- >> i think it is exciting. democrats have decided to not let the perfect be the enemy of the good. he has a lot of legislation, is kind of amazing. there is infrastructure now. they've got this, budget climate in their. it is not everything that everyone wants. i think one of the things that bernie does which is quite good is pushes democrats harder to take care of their maze. some of those ideas are great, but hopefully democrats can get them passed eventually, but not for reconciliation. >> we have this bill. we primaries on tuesday, primaries last tuesday.

the result of wind surprise, some the result of bad things that happen with respect to people who are depending on democracy in the 2020 election. but there was some energy in that. and it does feel like there is been a bit of a shoot the last couple of weeks about with the future looks like for people who are in favor of rights and democracy in this country. >> yes. i think roe was a big deal. i think that in kansas city with all these women registering after the dobbs decision came down, 70% of the new registration abs for jobs were women. i think women are galvanized, this is hardly a super liberal state. i think we are seeing that women do not like this law. it has gone too far. they say the supreme court is the devil that got the car, and we are seeing that. and today these republicans had plants what's going to do when they overturned roe. we are seeing these badly written bills. some of which have light problems. then we are seeing these doctors who are terrified of -- we are seeing more and more

stories of women who go to the hospital for treatment. those stories are the reason the 1973 the supreme court, the previous supreme court, passed roe in the first place. so i think this has gone too far. >> i had a legislature here in alabama say that this is not the dog catching the car, this is a dog slamming into the car, with the collapse of. row republicans are struggling to figure out what's the implications will have for elections to come. molly jong-fast is a contributing writer for the atlantic, and the author of the weight was newsletter. thank you for watching this special edition of velshi. professor toluca from alabama. thank. you and thank you televangelist me here. second time in a year, and it is always a warm experience. -- next saturday, that was a -- four medium to 10 am eastern, join me here on the sunday

show. there's an issue with jonathan capehart begins right now. right now. that is a live look at four of the united states senate, where members have been voting since 11 pm last night. on the amendments to the inflation production act. passage that historic legislation could happen in the next couple of hours, and we will bring that to you live. what is not of the matter with kansas? voters in that red space reject the move to ban abortion. and are the democrats playing with fire? chair of the dccc joins me to explain why the far-right candidates for republican primaries, and how abortion politics have oil the midterm calculus. i am jonathan kaye, part this is the sunday show.