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inch closer to a legislative victory. after hours of debate they are voting on the glacier production act. it would be the largest reduction in climate in u.s. history, i would also lower the cost of prescription drugs for millions of americans, among other things. earlier today millions of americans join us on msnbc to discuss the significance. >> vote after vote after vote, we have done this. 11 hours straight. why? because we know this bill is finally going to do something about climate change. lifted the ban on negotiating less expensive drugs under medicare. and then, as the name of the bill, says bring inflation home by 300 and $75 million in deficit reduction. >> i think the american public is watching with this overdue, see that they're making progress on issues they care about. >> legislation needs all 50 democrats to vote in order to pass it. the senate republicans are making their opposition known
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anyways. >> so, the american rescue plan, remember that one? that was supposed to make everything better, but it became a recession plan. this is going to make everything worse. >> at the same, time they're gonna be collecting close to 700 and $40 million in new tax revenue over the last -- next 5 to 10 years. most certainly they're not gonna help this for a tie to time, in which we are worried about coming out of a recession. >> meanwhile, another part of the country, former president donald trump making a return to the cpac stage. in his nearly two-hour speech, trump is giving dallas a strong hands at a possible 2024 white house bid. >> i ran, twice i won twice. i think much better the second time than i did the first. getting millions and millions of more votes than in 2016.
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and likewise getting more votes than any sitting president in the history of our country, by far. and now, we may have to do it again. we may have to do it again. >> trump overwhelmingly won an official, unofficial straw poll. -- pick trump is the preferred nominee for president in 2020. for compared to 24% for florida governor ron desantis. i want to turn now to reporting from nbc's julie tsirkin on capitol hill, and -- at the white house. julie, let's begin with you. are we any closer to a final vote on the massive spending package? >> that is the million dollar question. one senator yesterday told me that he would only $10 if we are finished by this morning now we are our entering hour 14, continuing to enforce democrats into taking hard.
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that's so, far they are sticking together. the only change made to the bill up to this point is on the insulin cap. in the bill, it will continue to protect those on medicare well lowering the cost of the drug for. them for nelson private insurance who gets their health care insurance from their employers, this will not help them now, with republicans blocking that from staying in the bill. i want to take a listen to what's a republican it it democrats were saying about this legislation this morning. watch. >> so this 700 billion dollars is actually going to hurt the economy, and then while gas prices are $2 more than they wear winter when he took office. there is a tax on gas, and joe biden has pushed us. those plans are pushing us into a recession. >> we are in a really epic battle, right now, with big pharma and big oil standing by, republicans working hard to protect their profits, do everything they can to slow down our efforts on this legislation.
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and when all this is done, the american people will have one. >> now, there is a small hiccup now that is not causing concern. yes it is on some of these tax provisions. i just passed a large back a lever porters that will be joining right after a finish talking to you, winning outside the senators office. -- this is a republican is believing senators manchin and sinema did for the swear way some of the issues they are having on the broker tax. we just had where this is related to private equity companies and the bell. they are making over a billion dollars in profit. but there are some issues with smaller businesses, which they invested. they will be taxed as a result of this. there is disagreement about, size but we'll keep you updated. >> the only issues in the kristen sinema side. we'll make sure to have some counter support. julia, thank. you let's go -- to where the president departed earlier this morning. the white house is announcing today that biden has tested negative for a second day.
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tested negative for covid. this allowed him to safely return to travel and public engagement. tell us what the president's thinking here can you get a sense of how he is feeling? >> cora, we saw the president leaving the white house as this morning to go to delaware. you can see it on his face a big smile. as he walked, he briefly answered a few questions from reporters, saying that he is feeling really good. and you can see in the video here he is taking his mask off, walking out to leave for rehoboth beach, delaware, where he can be reunited with his wife, the first lady, after more than two weeks apart, because he had an initial covid positivity, and then the rebound case for the last week. when he was so consistently testing positive. when he left the white house this, morning reporters asked how he was feeling about the progress on the inflation reduction ask. he gave a thumbs up, saying, i think it will pass. he's been very in tune with what is going on on the hill. he's been involved in talking to lawmakers, senior officials,
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in the white house. saying he feels optimistic about the progress that have made on saturday. president obviously watching this very closely from isolation. as he gets back, out he's clear to travel again. he isn't rehoboth beach with his wife. then we also know they're going to be going to kentucky to visit with governor beshear, and the families affected by the devastating flooding tomorrow. then we have to bill signings this week. the chips act relating to manufacturing. inslee -- relating to veterans. the legislation was held up just last weekend. so much will be going on in washington, d.c., well president biden has been isolating. so this week ahead is when we will see him in person taking action and signing this legislation, celebrating this big win. >> a second busy week with this legislation on the table. we have to say, it is always a possibility until it is actually done. thanks. let's go to l.a. to train, she is a congressional reporter and axios. eleni, thanks for being here
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with us. quote, perfect as the enemy of the good. we have heard this time and time again when discussing this bill. especially when it comes to the deal struck by senators biden and sinema. is it your overall sense that this is a very delicate matter to keep all democrats on board here? >> it is, cory. i think that three weeks ago, most democrats did not even think this was a possibility, to have a resurrection of the spill, when senator joe manchin in the majority leader chuck schumer announced a little over a week ago now that they had a deal. it took a lot of people by surprise. including nearly all senate democrats, and also senate sinema, who's really been crucial in the closing days of the negotiations, ensuring she got her priority in those bills as well. but there are a lot of democrats that recognize that this is not the bill that they wanted. the initial build back better package was roughly 3.2 trillion dollars. on the other provisions that
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did not make it into this bill, including suspension of the child tax credit, universal pre-k, family, leave all things that are not on this bill. but i think that knowing where -- wasn't we democrats were, they really didn't think they would be able to get a package like this across the finish line, the fact that they had $740 million giving a lot of priorities, including climate change, including the expansion of the affordable care act, lowering drug prices, going after large corporations have been avoiding taxes. these are all massive priorities for them. and they're feeling really good about this. it's what he once it is only three months now until the midterm elections. and they need this. why you see biden's poll numbers, they are lacking democrats across the country. they recognize they have an uphill battle ahead of november. so they really want to go help this august recess able to get on the way in. >> you mentioned some of the issues that unfortunately got pulled out of the bill.
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and that these were amendments presented by others like bernie sanders, trying to put them back into the bill. asking about the vote-a-rama, all these amendments, is this normal, all this independent voting? -- >> it is very unusual. you only really see vote-a-rama as they call them, during these massive budget reconciliation package is. we saw one last year when democrats pass the american refuge plan, another democrat-only reconciliation package. and it is a lot. you think it is really interesting about these vote-a-rama is it is a series of unlimited -- as we see playing right now, most of these moments are from republicans, and their messaging points. democrats, there are dozens of these amendments being put forward. democrats are really help to firm their unity and striking those amendments down. they really seen the messaging talking points, and that is why we suspect the vote-a-rama
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series to wrap up soon. i think senators are getting really tired. they want to move forward. and it is not really going to change the outcome of the bill. there were only very few amendments, i think, there were some strong because it is potentially passing. when was a pat cap on insulin for private commercial prescription drugs. that did not make it into the bill. but he did come very close, about seven republicans voted with democrats on that. there may be in the minutes later where something proposed by idly with john schuman, who is looking at potentially having some large corporations be exempt from the corporate minimum tax provision. we will see if it happens. senator joe manchin and sinema are both talking with him right now. that could be another moment. by and far, the majority of these are really just messaging about republicans. >> kristen sinema and senator joe manchin certainly have some power here to make sure that the power gets in for those
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votes. and that, note senator ted cruz talking with his image that he introduced, funding for the irs that failed. listen in. >> there are a lot of bad things in this bill, but if you are worse than that proposed by democrats in this bill to double the size of the irs and create 87,000 new irs agents. and they're not being created for, billionaires or giant corporations. they are being created to audit hue. >> when americans don't want is wealthy tax cheats to be able to rest easy because republican budget cuts in the irs mean that they can get away with breaking the law scot-free. >> all, right here we're talking about talking points for the republicans. what is the point, where today trying to accomplish, but bring in so many minutes they know are not going to pass? >> they want to be able to say that they tried to minimize this bill as much as possible.
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and also use it exactly the way senator ted cruz, did with this irs provision that he put forward. to bring up things they've been wanting to talk about on the senate floor, and show where they are coming out as a party. and i think the irs amendment that chris was talking about is kind of interesting, and gets out the hiring of many of these agents to go after a lot of people who are bringing their taxes, particularly large corporations. and we said it was not the goal, but it is really the goal of this provision, we democratic provision. that's what they're trying to do. and that cruz is someone who, i was just talking recently about, this thinks there is far too much bureaucracy, wants to limit that. and so his goal with this amendment is trying to use the senate floor is a statement to talk about this. and that is well out of these republicans are doing. but again, none of them are passing. very few of them, i should say. they are going to use these packages in some advertising
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campaigns, as we get into the midterms. i know they done that with these past for the-rama's, which we have seen for the past year or so. but matt legislative and substantial point of view, it is not going to come to fruition. >> it is not going to happen, to get it plain and simply. thank you for your time with us. let's turn now to texas congressman mark veasey, he's ready member of the house armed services committee. congressman, welcome in. and the holes it comes to the house, and we expect things to play out of this inflation production act actually passes the senate today, will you return from recess to get it passed the house? >> we will return from recess and we will get it passed the house. i think we will actually pick up some republican votes on this bill. and i think that we are going to like it. >> when we say that about the republican votes? >> just because, if you think about some of these provisions, particularly some of the energy provisions, we have had some
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support for some more moderate republicans, things like energy efficiency, products for consumers. i don't know that -- everyone is concerned about the price of prescription drugs, so being a was negotiate for the price of prescription drugs and keep those numbers down, that should be something that would garner bipartisan support. like some of the more recent pieces of legislation that you have seen. so i think i am feeling really good about it. it is not the perfect bill, by any stretch. but anybody was not worked in d.c. for two seconds knows that you rarely get perfect in this town. and that this is a pretty good deal. >> warily is an overstatement, there. absolutely agree with you there. if we did not get any support, if democrats do not get any, support do you see any hurdles or major changes to the legislation in the house? he expected to get support of all the democrats, as is?
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>> i expected to get the report of -- support of all democrats. i do. this, bill i talked about that bill meant to lower prescription drug prices. reduced 24 tons of carbon emissions, and also, again, a lot of these appliances and what have you, many can retrofit your. house those things can be very expensive. in this bill is going to be able to let consumers do better, it is going to be good for our environment. i don't think anybody is going to vote against those provisions. again, doesn't have everything that i would like to see with other democrats would like to see. but it is a lot better replace than where we are now, and i don't think any democrat wants to see us go backwards in this direction. >> if you could pick one thing from the billy think is going to be the most impactful for americans, why would it be in one thing when you add, if you could?
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>> i think the most impactful thing for me, although i represent a very low income district, i would say is what i think is going to be the most effective is obviously that we're gonna keep these prescription drug prices down. whenever i want any place here for -- where the other metroplex city here, that is when people ask about the most in the district. hey, my prescription drug prices are high. i cannot afford health care, health care, health care. being able to extend the ac subsidies for years. it is things like that, for a low income district, that people are going to be very happy about. >> how much do you think inflation reduction that will move the needle when it comes to midterms? >> i think that this is really big for us when it comes to midterms. we can get some good news going in the september. i bet, i want to say for sure, but i bet gas prices are going to rebound after labor day.
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historically, gas prices continuing to go down. and if you look at some of the recent polling some of the generic congressional balance, it looks at the democrats are moving up there. and we are actually, you know, -- do that. i would say this, combined with overcast prices, the recent polling we have seen when it comes to generic personal, ballots is putting us in a pretty good position. so i am ready to fight. after labor day starts. i think. i get ready for the, midterms and i'm feeling very confident. i want to ask you about something happening in texas right now. switching gears a little bit here. a bus carrying 14 migrants arrived in new york city this morning, that is after a bus carrying 50 migrants came to the city on friday. who sent them? greg abbott. after months of sending buses of migrants to d.c., his now began shipping them to the big apple. new york city mayor, eric adams, , slammed the texas governor
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for using migrants as quote, political pawns. how do you view the situation right now? >> well, first, let me say this. using people as political pawns is just a moral. -- greg abbott, a man who professes to be a christian, using people in this way is sickening. i will also say that greg abbott is desperate. beto o'rourke is closing in on the polls on him. greg abbott has actually urged his supporters to cancel themselves and not attend any of beto's events one better goes to different towns and people -- republicans and trump people have been out there protesting them. he is actually invited them into asked questions and hear their concerns. greg abbott has asked them to stop going in to stay outside in 100 plus degree weather and
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continue to protest, don't go in and ask better questions. that's a sign of desperation. i would, say using people the way that he is,, the way that he's using migrants is a game. telling people to cancel themselves from attending beto's rallies, both of those things combined speak of a man who's very desperate. he sees the polls are closing between him and beto. it was almost within the margin of error on the last one, i think six points. this would be a really good governors race, people should watch what beto is doing. he's doing amazing things. >> texas always has major implications when it comes to not just the midterms but the general elections as well. to your point,, more conversation regarding differing opinions is needed. not less. congressman representing texas, thank you. the impact of the alex jones verdict, and whether a 45 million dollar fine will put a
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rights. you can take away our sisters rights, you can take away our daughter's rights. forget it. watch out. kansas, that's your example. >> we are watching as the senate debates the inflation reduction act. waiting on a vote that could happen as soon as today. despite unanimous republican opposition, all 50 democrats are on board. vice president, kamala harris, will deliver the tie breaking vote. we will bring you any updates as soon as they come. let's go down to texas where the 2022 conservative political action conference is coming to a close. last, night donald trump took the stage as the grand finale of what is a controversial gathering of some of the nation's most conservative voices. nbc's, gary graham back, is in dallas forest covering cpac from day one. what are some of the biggest takeaways? >> cory, the biggest takeaway is this didn't used to be controversial. going back to the reagan years,
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this used to be a place where conservatives could gather and share their ideas and promote rising stars in their part of the party. it's turned into a place where the far-right torrent -- viktor orban gets the marquee speech on opening day of c's back. mike lindell gets a standing ovation for his election conspiracies. what we've heard today, and what we've heard for the past four days, is ranged from unusual to -- want to show you this video, it went viral, you may have seen an online. it is essentially a dj dance party. inspect the music coming out of the headphones, it is interviews with january six defendants from the jail cell in d.c.. a dj up front, it is a man crying in a jail uniform. a january 6th defended inside of a jail cell. a lot of what we heard over the past four days was dark, was conspiratorial, it really hit
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on a lot of hot button issues touching america today. here's what trump said last night. >> we are a nation that, in many ways, has become a joke. we are a nation that is hostile to liberty, freedom and -- we are a nation that allows men to play sports when women's teams -- dominate them. our economy is wondering, the supply chain is, broken stores are not stopped, deliveries are not coming, adjudication ill system is ranked at the bottom of every single list. we are not going to let this continue. >> the closely watched cpac poll of attendees came out last night. at not a ton of surprises there. 69% of attendees said that if donald trump runs in 2024 they would vote for him.
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if he doesn't run they are fully behind florida governor, ron desantis, who is noticeably absent from this conference. cory? >> gary, reporting for us out of dallas. we appreciate that. new details from the alex jones defamation lawsuit value the net worth of the conspiracy theories businesses between 135 and 200 and $70 million. experts estimated that it's personal net worth, between 70 million and 140 million. one witness testified that is in for a worse store generated more than 100 and $65 million in revenue over three years. let's dig deeper with nbc news senior, dan collins. then, these estimations and evaluation square with what you found? how did alex jones make so much money if this is correct? >> honestly, it's probably more than that if you really think about. it we didn't know until this week that, through this leaked phone, that was accidentally sent from alex jones's lawyers over to the sandy hook parents
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lawyers that he made at $100,000 in one day in 2018. he said it was a high day, the phone only goes into 2021. there will be some extrapolation based on what's in that phone. he's made a tremendous amount of money based on fear. he sells the fear first, says the world is ending, for supply chain is collapsing, all the stuff that you just heard in the cpac report. >> i was thinking the same thing. >> exactly right. then he fell stuff on top of that thing. like supply chains and, would you get? you're gonna get years worth of food. he sells prep or kids that are in the thousands or $10,000. that is how he can make up the money very quickly. 45 million dollar settlement, by the, way which may go down because of texas law through an arbitration process, he will make that back. he's good at selling gear. >> let's talk about what he
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sells. according to a texas tribune report, during the pandemic jones sold products like nano silver toothpaste and silver immune gargle, claiming that they would fight covid-19. from your reporting, then, what else do you know that he sold that helped him achieve the hundred and 65 million dollar revenue over three years? his big product is the brain force plus. it allows you to think on alex jones's level. you can absolutely take it and find out. the most recent product that is selling between every ad is instant hard, i don't want to say what it is on television. there's a lot of the stuff like this that he sells. he sells basically everything. he sells the stuff that you would put in a bunker or the end of the world. he has been pressing paying for this for a very long period of time, for decades. the new civil war, the end of the world is always around the corner. --
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the stuff it's taken as fact. this country is collapsing, the pipeline to get your stuff is collapsing. alex jones >> okay then, first of all, that for circulating in that circular messaging, we talked about that before two. that is something to take note have. that is where it gets complicated, then. before texas, jones declared bankruptcy for the system, one sandy hook victim told the lawyer that -- before the court awarded damages, and that they were added to compete with debt. free speech systems claiming the bankrupt saying $70 million in liabilities, including 50 millions that he owed to another alex jones company. how many companies are under
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alex jones's umbrella? this is incredibly confusing and detailed, and also, hand these companies filter cash from the courts? >> they, can and they have. the very last part of this trial talks about how many shell passes alex jones has. it is not clear. -- free speech systems have a company. he doesn't need to tell how much people. make people try to estimate based on what they have heard in the past. by the, way you can do things like anonymous bitcoin issues. there was one day last month where he received a 7 million dollar bitcoin donation. he says he doesn't even know where it's coming from, but he's running them right, now asking donors to donate more again. so, literally it is targeted ads from one person. this guy has an unknown amount of cash, but it is a lot of money, and he's very good at hiding. it's >> as you, mentioned he is going to bounce back from this from under the evening
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midterm elections. just 93 days away. on tuesday, four states will hold their primary elections including the key state of wisconsin. right now, the path to the midterms has been cleared for democratic candidate for u.s. senate, you lieutenant governor, mandela barnes. after all three opponents dropped out and endorsed him. the next challenge will be the november race, the face up against incumbent, senator ron johnson who's expected to win the republican nomination. joining me now, john nichols, official affairs correspondent for the nation. welcome, john. wisconsin, famously a swing state. president biden won in 2020. trump won the state in 2016. you expected to be a close race? >> it will be a close race. wisconsin has close races. of the last six presidential elections four of them were decided in wisconsin by under 25,000 votes. the last governor raced was decided by under 25,000. it's the nature of the state that this will be a close race. it will also be one that is
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just flooded with money because it is such a pivotal race for control of the senate. >> this is a really interesting matchup, mandela is often referred to as a progressive candidate. compare that to conservative, ron johnson, who can recently suggested ending medicare and social security as mandatory spending programs. he has of course clarify those comments, but has this hurt him? has johnson had to face any scrutiny for people in wisconsin? could this hurt his polling in november? >> absolutely it could hurt him. in fact, polls in wisconsin show that his approval rating is very low. there's no question that over the last six years, ron johnson has moved towards a number of really extreme positions on everything from covid treatments, vaccines, to the 2020 election, to this issue of medicare, medicaid social security. he is vulnerable, but one of the tricks that ron johnson always engages in is to be
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extremely negative about his opponent. to think that ron johnson always tries to make people dislike his opponent more than they dislike him. >> speaking on that note, mandela has faced criticism for his progressive stances. he had the tweet where he appeared to support medicare for all. how is he faring in this state with this conservative base? can he win the people over? the people of wisconsin? especially with a fairly progressive platform? >> well, wisconsin is the birthplace of progressivism in the modern sense. there is a base for progressive politics in wisconsin. there is no question that a progressive can win in wisconsin. remember, mandela barnes won in 2018, for lieutenant governor on a ticket with tony evers, who is actually quite progressive. the fact that barnes can be competitive is really a question of, the extent to
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which he defines himself in the eyes of the voters as opposed to negative ads attacking him. that's what's going to be about. >> sorry to jump in there. i'm trying to lead the conversation about him and change the narrative there. question, about senator johnson, he is a known trump supporter, yet he did not appear out of wisconsin trump rally on friday. what do you make of the absence? does this have any indication about trouble in november? >> sure, it's a subtlety. trump was appearing for a candidate in the republican group adorable race. johnson didn't want to seem to be taking aside in that race. but yes, you've seen ron johnson in the last few weeks appeared to seem more moderate on some things and put a little distance from trump. i think that will be a part of the competition. johnston cannot win if he is perceived as being extreme. he's gonna have to try to move
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at least to a somewhat moderate position. that's gonna be hard because his statements and actions of the last few years have really created an impression of him as basically a close eye on a lie to trump. >> quickly, before i let you. go a new op-ed in the washington post says that if mandela barnes is elected, quote, it could give democrats a real senate majority. how significant is this for this particular election from the national perspective? >> this could be the only see we're demarcus have a real chance to defeat the republican incumbent. this is huge. there's only a handful of cities that are currently republican held that could flip. wisconsin is going to be a huge battleground, right up until election day in november. >> john nichols, closely watching that wisconsin race for us in november. thank you so much, john. >> well, the blowout jobs report continues. does it put the rest of any talk of possible recessions to rest? we're gonna get answers on the job report coming up next. job report coming up next. t rise above it ♪
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right what goes up must come down. gas prices dropping for 54th straight day. average prices now under 47 a gallon, down from four 75 a month ago. the record of almost five to a gallon reached on june 14th. good news for the economy, latest job report showing a stunning search unemployment, defying concerns of a living or. session whopping 28,000 jobs added in july. that brings total employment back to the level of just before the pandemic. unemployment rate took down to the lowest at least 50 years. joining me sympathies numbers, nick room. in, rick breakdown with all of this means. before i do this report, all 22 million jobs that were lost during the pandemic have now
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been recovered. what is primarily driving this growth? >> we are just way behind on jobs. it is a perspective. gross domestic product and economic outlook are adjusted for inflation, they actually exceeded peeping damac levels. they are below preventive levels of employment, so businesses have just been -- people might be familiar, this thing about this happening with the airlines. they have furloughed a lot of people, and they don't think the economy will bounce back as weekly as it did when the covid economy hit in 2020, but they've been -- ever sides. they have fewer flights, cancellations the people have been hearing about. because they don't have enough workers. even though we have high inflation, people are paying for flights they want to fly,
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in the airline is just a microcosm so multiply that by thousands of industries and thousands of companies, and it explains why companies are still hiring so many people. >> you touched on a really important point here. the low employment, the low unemployment is very important. but if the demand is high for more employees, what businesses here? what is driving the lack of employees or the lack of availability here? is it tied to immigration restriction, and where are we going to get those workers if we can't find them now, when we are seeing such an amazing jobs report. >> it is no single thing. but it probably does have something to do with it, let's be clear, we are not talking about illegal immigration. we are talking about legal immigration. we have fewer illegal immigrants allowed into the country. legal immigration actually
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boost economic growth, you have a richer label force,. but there are other factors as well. think about what has happened during covid, they were worried about getting sick. but they had a lot of women who just couldn't work, because they certainly had to be home to take care of kids. get childcare. i think we still have massive disruption in childcare, which is very expensive. and we also had a lot of people who retired early, and they are pretty comfortable. yes, there were some people who got enough money through different hips of covid assistance plans, they could not have to work for a while. that was a minor factor. -- has basically run out. so anybody who is not working because they were living off of stimulus is, they are about trying to look for jobs now. >> we have to talk about that inflation and wage gains trailing inflation for most
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people. higher prices for central like gas and food. it has wreaked have a con people having to pay rent. and they're spending power in general. good inflation still eat without no downturn? >> it certainly could indirectly. the way this happens is you are right. on average, people are falling behind. average wages only around 5%. leave inflation runs 9%. in a direct way this could lead to a recession, just from the federal reserve. the federal reserve is hiking interest rates. the federal reserve does not want to see the economy, a strange as this may sound, does not want to see the economy creating 20,000 jobs a month. the fed was much slower job growth, because it wants to slow spending the way the fisa slows spending, as we were just may sound, is the lowest job growth. fewer people getting jobs, less money to spend.
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this is a huge unsettled question, it remains to be seen whether the federal get it right. whether it will cause a recession. but i think we are going to get relief from inflation in the last few weeks, inflation numbers coming wednesday. . new numbers probably gonna be lower than that. that is because what we've seen with gas prices coming down. if energy prices and energy costs are going to stay down, it is going to pass through to lori's of inflation for stuff like food, which takes a lot of energy to produce, and other things like that. so the inflation news will get a little bit better, but -- necessarily. >> a few key components in the right, direction but some to still keep an eye on. we appreciate you being in for, us rick newman. now, on this edition of alice reports, i am cory coffin. and in a moment, my friend yasmin vossoughian continues our coverage. stay with us. stay with us
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