using reconciliation. this senate, democratic led senate, has passed a bill that does all of the above and still reduces the deficit by hundreds of millions of dollars. and joe manchin was -- and left his real imprint on this bill with deficit reduction. which i think, all of my caucus happily follows. and i want to again thank, the leadership artwork and persistence of all of my colleagues, their teamwork, spirited teamwork, their knowledge that we had to gather to get something done. awesome to me, not awesome in the way the kids use the word but in the biblical sense. it's a tremble, in abu for the angels of god. just amazing. the american people as you know are overwhelmingly support the legislation. it's not hard to understand white americans feel this way. we are delivering all the

things they care about. we don't have to make things up when the republicans do their big tax bill in 2017, they said it will reduce your taxes to the average middle class person. it was aimed at the rich. we are talking about exactly what this bill does. we don't have to make it up because we are aiming directly at the american people and what they want. so, let me say this. say no to something is easy. it gets mistaken that no, say no, that is tough. there is no strategy or counting to saying no. it's simple, it is easy. legislating is about getting to yes. i've always been a yes person. not a no person. always wanted to get something done. if you ask me, what helped you get the stun? some people have asked me that. i put it in one word, persistence. i just tell you a brief story for those of you who haven't heard about my dad. my dad passed away in november,

he would have been 99 on flight day, june 14th. he was -- i won't go into the whole story, but he was a brilliant participant in world war ii. he perfected a radar that flew over the hump. when he came, back, my grandpa who bought a little exterminating business, the family was starving because my grandpa was a union organizer. he was an idealist. he said oh you look poor payment when you can. he told the -- he formed a union and promised to pay them more money than him. the family was starving. for the next 45 years my father goes into this junkie business. he hated it. he never complained. he never uttered a word about resentment of people who are given a better break than him. but those if you have been close to your parents my dad is still here. he taught me to value. so that's why i tell the story. first, always help people who

need help. that's a noble thing. the second, if you are doing the right thing, and you persist and you don't quick, god will reward you, if you will succeed. that has motivated me my whole life. i think this bill proved it. we had many bumps in the road. many times it looked like it would never happen. we never gave up. here we are. we got it done! one final point. i always prefer to work in a bipartisan way. that is my preference. i've done that throughout my career. here in the senate and in the house. in the last six weeks we have accomplished some incredible things. nato, guns, all bipartisan. all significant. but even though i perverted work in a bipartisan way. when it is really important and the republicans won't participate we have to do it on our own.

that is the opportunity to win 50 votes that record zillion nation affords us. that's what we used. that's what we did. we will continue to do that. in short, it's a momentous achievement. momentous. it is going to set our country on a path to better days ahead. i think the public will understand that and i think it's going to help us in november significantly in two ways. first the specific things we are doing the people care so much about. second, hey democrats, even in this tough situation, polarized 50/50 they can actually get big things done. so then we are. yes? >> you have been listening to senate majority leader, chuck schumer. he's talking about the massive victory for president biden's agenda. within the last hour, the united states senate passed the inflation production act, you'll! everybody was talking about it. there was a last minute delay involving a republican

amendment to change it. but they finally landed this plane just about 40 minutes ago. vice president, kamala harris, stepped in to cast the tie breaking vote for passage. >> the yays are 50, the nays are 50. senate being equally divided, the vice president votes in the affirmative and the bill, as amended, is passed! >> i am simone sanders towns, you are watching some. hour to get right into. it let's go to nbc news congressional reporter, julie tsirkin, who's been on capitol hill. julie, it's been a long process. i've been watching you all day. walk us through what has been happening in the last hour as the bill finally passed. >> one senate democrat told me she was worried, she got nervous in the last couple of minutes there as they were shaking out some of the changes they wanted made. you brought up the one

amendment by senator john thune, a republican. that was on the corporate tax provisions. senator sinema, other vulnerable democrats took issue with. it they pulled it out of the bill. but there was a question of how to pay for it because of course that would take away money from the deficit reduction part of this bill at the end of the day. they were able to work it out and the democratic aide told me they were building a plane while trying to land. it they have landed it,. you saw, harris, of course breaking the tie on that vote to finally pass this bill. democrats are going home today with a win on climate, on health care and on taxes in this package, simone. >> remind us, julie, what is in the inflation production act? i've heard folks talk about energy tax credits, i've heard the largest climate investment in our nation's history. what makes this so significant? >> it is the largest climate investment in our nation's history also with energy production. you see that piece of it on your screen, of course, in

addition to -- it does do electric vehicle credits, it extends that. it gives methane reduction to farmers and ranchers who produce methane -- reduce them on their farms. it transitions those with cool jobs with clean energy jobs. it gives them credit to do that. it's a big issue for west virginia. on the drug and health piece, it allows medicare to negotiate the cost of drugs for the first-time. this was huge when the parliamentarian let that stay in the bill. now, on the insulin cap, democrats did lose one thing today in the sense where those who get their insurance from their employers, private insurance, they aren't able to have their insulin medication kept. but for medicare seniors, it's over 3 million people in this country they are able to cap those insulin prices. it is huge, of course. obamacare extended until 2024. on the tax piece of this, it will close from loopholes. 15% minimum tax is still in the

bill. some structure of it is different. all in all a huge victory for democrats. the house coming back on friday to pass the bill before president biden will sign it. >> all, right julie, thank you for breaking it down. i think we will be hearing lots over the next couple of days about what this means for the american people. nbc, ms. julie tsirkin, thank you very much. with me now is one of the senators who voted for this bill. it's democratic senator, martin heinrich, of new mexico. senator! how are you feeling? it must be good after pulling off this major win. >> this day has been coming for me for a very long time. it feels fantastic to finally do something this transformational on clean energy. >> senator, it's important for viewers to know how this is going to directly impact their lives. why is this such a big deal? can you unpack that a little bit? especially for the residents of new mexico.

>> for one, we are going to drive down the cost of electricity by helping to incentifies cheaper, cleaner electricity rates. as we deploy more wind and solar. and more storage on the grid. in addition, there are things for every single home in terms of electrifying your homes with rebates that level lies the cost up front, and then give you a utility bill that is lower for the rest of your life. bill that isit's really drivinge cost of energy overall. there are many different things in this bill, but they are all aimed at making energy more affordable and driving pollution out of the system. >> senator, president biden actually released a statement on this passage of a few moments ago, he said, quote, i ran for president promising to make government work for working families again, and that is what this bill does -- period!

how are you going to make sure that what you said to me today, what biden is saying in the statement translates to voters across the country between now and november. we are less than 100 days till election day, sir. >> in new mexico, people are already familiar with the jobs that are fueling growth among electricians, wind techs, people who build transitional -- transmission in our state as well as the tradesmen who facilitate all of those things. we're going to continue to press on that. we're also building clean energy manufacturing in this legislation. we haven't done industrial policy like this in the united states and many decades. i think it's been a mistake. we are going to invested building the factories of the future and making sure that we are domestically sourcing those things. that is a big new approach to this in this legislation. it is one that i believe will appeal much more broadly than previous attempts. >> all right, senator martin

high rank,, thank you very much. i know it's been a long weekend. i know you can't wait to get home, thank you for your time. >> thank you. now, to discuss it all i want to bring in my political panel. camilla to tell us is the senior politics reporter for business insider. reena shaw is a senior adviser for republican wing it women for progress. democratic strategist, wendy -- is that educated professor in john hawkins university. she's a doctor. doctor wendy, we will start with. you let's talk about this. this is a big day! it's a big deal! >> this is huge. i don't think people understand how big this is. i would say this is a big win, especially going into wisconsin and those primaries. it's happening on tuesday. i want people to underscore the importance of what this package entails. one of those things, for me, it's personal because i have family that have needs. it's a prescription drug costs. did the ability to negotiate the prices of prescription drug

costs. that is a game-changer. while we know that this may not be something that happens tomorrow, next month, it's going to take time. but just the perspective of peoples life changing in ways that the american people have been wanting for so long. this is monumental. >> the point you make that it's gonna take time, you, know i worked in the administration. when we first came in we talked about the arp, american rescue plan. immediate relief! and this build back better package which is like -- this is build back better light. it was some long term relief for the american people but they may not see immediately, but it will make a difference overtime. part of, that wendy just talked about prescription drugs, insulin caps. every republican in the united states senate voted no on capping insulin for seniors at $35. is that gonna make them vulnerable? >> absolutely. if it's message right, that's the whole name of the game. >> they just need to say what i just. set >> right on. you make it plain and simple. this is about lifesaving medication, this is the basic needs of american people,

they're not being met. one of the senators doing for? us one of the doing for the average american's plight? if you were a person that feels like this senators in the u.s. senate or doing a thing for you, you are taking a look at the spill and you are saying, it is something. it started somewhere. i talked many times on this show about being from west virginia, senator joe manchin i've known for two decades. now this is a mix up for me because he's a guy about legacy but he's also about power, let's be serious. this is a guy who wanted to -- he's a contrarian because he likes being a contrarian, but he also wanted to get something done for the constituency. poor people needed this bill. not just in west virginia, but across the country. >> look, a lot of people are talking about the primaries. camilla, there are, as wendy said, at least two key primaries coming up this tuesday, particularly talking about wisconsin. how do you think this bill is going to play, not just in wisconsin on tuesday, but i'm looking long term -- less than 90 days to election day? >> this is going to really impact that wisconsin primaries. you have mandela burns that's

facing unaccompanied, four republican, ron johnson. he can take back and look at what's senate democrats really did by passing this bill. he can say, there's more to come if you like me into office and we get ron johnson out of office. you heard him say that he wants to push codifying more rights for women, who has access for health care because of the overturning of roe v. wade. he wants to push more things about health care, about access to abortions and so on. if you look in turn to this, this is what senate democrats have done. i want to contribute to making these changes. to helping americans, not just in wisconsin but across the country. make more decisions in order to better their lives. >> ron, johnson's current senator republican, do you think he's too far right for the voters? he's one of the republicans who voted against the insulin cap today. wh votethere's backlash, not just r his opposition to this bill and the things in the amendments in, it but also to the part he's played in other things. you have the january 6th

hearings that took center stage in july. >> very sketchy, honey! >> the party played in the fake scheme of electors being sent. even just him pushing these theories about fake trump supporters being the reason why there's an insurrection. he will have to respond and respond to all this criticism against. and it's going to be a major factor in this upcoming primary. >> there's a lot happening in the primaries. this bill is a very big deal. we will talk about. it abortion, k, when its ability to have control over their decisions of their own bodies, very. big democratic congressional committee is out with a new memo, honey! let me just tell you, the memo, let me read it for. you abortion is a mobilizing issue in kansas, last week they voted to keep abortion rights. when, what does that indicate to you? >> in the case of my people, the democrats on the right side of history, i also think that it is a better conversation because we're looking at the primaries and what's happening in wisconsin, or would happen

in arizona or michigan we see a lot of trump backed candidates are sweeping in and they're winning. so now as, we look at wisconsin the question becomes what's gonna happen? is this conversation going to change? we know that trump and the people who align with the ideologies do not believe in women's reproductive rights. they don't believe that women should have autonomy over their bodies. they believe the government should. the democrats putting of this memo, it continues to expand on their position and continues to expand on what they're trying to push forward for not just the primaries but also for the midterms and the subsequent elections. >> i want to play a little clip because south carolina congresswoman nancy mace, was on meet the press in this is what she told him, take a listen. >> well, i'm essentially pro-life i have pro life voting record. i think that it will be an issue in november if we're not moderating ourselves, if we're including exceptions for women to rape, victims of incense and certainly in every instance where a life of the mother is at stake.

>> reena, do you hear that? that's nancy mace, honey. do you think the conversation around women's ability to have control over their body woven on the conversations about the economy? >> no, i don't actually. it's the economy. i think it's the economy. i think you will find it hard, i have three children, it's a lot of children. i never saw myself as a mother. >> i have three. >> that's wonderful. >> you have this many kids, you're like i want to have them have the life i had in the 80s and 90s. you're looking at the price of things, adding it up, this doesn't feel right. look, you need to need to be a political person to feel that way, you need to be somebody that says this feels wrong. so, who's working on that? and almost felt like for the past three months, if i can be honest, i didn't feel like this administration had the torch. it didn't feel like this administration was doing the darn thing. which is to speak frame linked, clearly to the american public at what they can do to fix that. it's so massive, it's a pivotal day that legislatively for a

president that sits right below 40% of approval rating, right? to me that doesn't matter, votes have always been wrong. >> the polls change. what you're saying is it's the economy. >> it's the economy. the disconsolate, the senators on public omitted today, push past that but look, what happened in kansas, i say this with caution i crossed party lines to vote for democrats in the last midterm election, and last presidential. don't get too excited about kansas. it's not everything. >> reena shaw has a message. we'll have to leave it. there she has the last word. camilla, reena, doctor wendy thank you so much for coming on set. we appreciated. coming up, congresswoman zoe lofgren sits on the select committee she's joining me with the latest from the investigation right here virtually. stay with us. stay with us

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not have a hearing scheduled this month. whether it's a federal grand jury subpoena of trump's former white house counsel, or defamation trial of infamous conspiracy theorist alex jones, developments surrounding the riots keep popping up. joining me now is one of the people tasked getting to the bottom of all this. democratic congressman from california, january six committee member zoe lofgren. welcome congresswoman. you know i need to ask, what can you tell us about any upcoming january six hearings? >> well, we expect to have additional hearings in september. i think the chairman has made that clear. but we're working throughout the summer, obviously, the lawyers on the staff are continuing to work. the members are meeting virtually. we have multiple meetings every week. we are making progress. we as has been reported are hopeful that, very soon will

receive all of the text messages sent by alex jones. we don't know obviously what's in them. we do know that he incited rioters so that is of interest for continuing to work and try to unravel what went on with the secret service. and multiplicity of other threats that were pursuing. >> so, i do know the, committee has requested two years worth of text messages from alex jones. do you have the text messages yet are you still hoping to get them? >> so far as we know we are hoping we might get them today or tomorrow. as of this moment, i don't know that we have. as you're aware, from public reporting for some reason, mr. joins's layers copied his entire phone and sent it to the lawyers for the plaintiffs in the civil defamation suit. they notified him, they want

them back to assert privilege. they never responded. so, these records are now held by these lawyers who said they want and intend to give it to the committee, unless the judge in the case stops it. i don't know what legal theory would prevent them from sending it to us. we're hopeful to get a law in your future. >> all right, we're looking forward when the committee does receive those. let's talk about the secret service test. the lead it tax on the january six and the day before, allegedly cannot be recovered by the secret service or the department of homeland security. there's been a lot of conversation around this. my question to you as, do you know for sure that they're truly not able to find these text messages? >> no. we, obviously, what has unfolded is very concerning. , on many levels the secret

service was told to keep all of these records by chairman of four committees in jurisdictions. shortly after the january six riot, 11 days later they raced them. the inspector general sat on that information for more than a year. and then, as soon as we found out from him, we met with them a whole committee, they started the forensic, we subpoenaed the records that we had been working collaboratively with the secret service. as soon as we subpoenaed records, all kinds of additional information came in from the secret service. which causes me concern, also then the inspector general ordered the secret to stop the forensic analysis of the phones, which is very troubling. we have concerns about the inspector general over there, we have concerns about the secret service, we don't know for a fact that these text

messages cannot be recovered. we are getting very large amounts of information from the secret service now. i would like to credit the secretary of homeland security for bringing in a top flight general counsel to oversee this, a man of tremendous integrity, we're hopeful that this will work smoother as we go forward. there's a whole lot of coincidences here, it sure doesn't look good, does? it >> it doesn't. too many coincidences are not a coincidence that all in my book. you know, there's been a lot of speculation on whether or not ginni thomas, she's the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas, there's been lots of speculation on whether not chill testify about her text to donald trump stephen staff mark meadows, and our efforts to help subvert the 2020 election. what is the status of potential ginni thomas testimony? >> it's my understanding doing,

there's discussion underway. as soon as we indicated in talking to her, she said publicly that she was eager to come in. and look forward to it. that is continues to be our expectation. she has done nothing that would counter that initial statement, that she wants to. common stateme she hasn't yet come inl see. >> all right, we will see before i let you go congresswoman, big day for democrats and i would argue the american people. inflation reduction act is passed. we know the house gonna vote on it on friday. what are your thoughts? >> well, i think it's very important. it's gonna lower costs for health care, especially for senior citizens. we have their medic -- $2,000 a year. it's the bit biggest investment to prevent climate change ever. it will reduce inflation. i just think it is a very, very big deal. i am looking forward to voting

in favor of it on friday. >> all right, congresswoman zoe lofgren, you made it very clear, got as answers, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> all right folks so far the justice department investigation into january six is spent a lot of time focusing on the rioters. the department of justice has slowly been working through charges for hundreds of people actually who at home after the riot. like nothing happened. but now the department of justice seems to be turning to donald trump's inner circle. the federal gradually investigating the capitol riots, former white house counsel pat cipollone. let's talk about it, joining me now is msnbc legal analyst melissa murray. she's an nyu law professor and former associate clerk to the associate justice sonia soto meyer. and do nick pressley is here she's an attorney and legal analyst -- with monique pressley. welcome to you both. melissa, let's start with you what does this cipollone on

cipollone subpoena really signal about the justice department's investigation, is this a turning point towards holding the folks accountable? >> i think it's a very big development, simone. i think it's important for a number of reasons. pat cipollone famously pleaded executive privilege in a attorney-client privilege when testimony -- in the district of columbia, the courts have held that those privileges do not necessarily hold sway in situations involving a criminal investigation. so, he might be required to provide provide more testimony than -- and not could be potentially enormous in terms of gathering evidence to bring together this case against the trump inner circle. much has been made, the attorney general's deliberations and the methodical approach to all of this. this is part of it, the grand jury subpoena here could actually yield considerable fruit. >> i also think it's important for folks to know, everybody in

the moment can't claim executive privilege. the current president of the united states, is where executive privilege rests with. it's not every former president that ever lived. it's driving me crazy. so, when you are shaking your head cipollone can get a lot of information to january six committee, what could the grand jury at the department of justice really get out of hand that maybe we didn't know before? they can get tons of things out of him. we may not have heard anything yet, frankly, because everything that he and his lawyers got together on, don't know if you noticed how he looked really -- >> he looked pissed! very uncomfortable! >> to say the least, angry. just the whole, how in the world that i end up here? that was his general demeanor. attorneys are the most uncomfortable when we actually have to be testifying. especially when we don't know where the provisions are and where they aren't. when it comes to a criminal investigation, all bets are off, just as the professor just said to us, everything that they strategize beforehand, he was

instructed not to answer those questions. that likely is not going to hold fire here because if he doesn't answer, they may do but we've had to do any number of times. have the judge on speed dial. you say it's privileged, give us a ruling. then keep moving. he is not going to have those options, or he may be looking at some time for refusing to cooperate before anything else happens. >> wow, okay. goodness! that is a lot! not only is it pat cipollone, alyssa, cnn is reporting that donald trump's attorneys are now in contact with the justice department. nbc news, to be, clear has not independently verified this. how do you imagine that those talks are going? >> i imagine they are going slowly. i mean, this is a situation where you have someone who is generously -- reluctant. his lawyers are gonna be working overtime to limit the amount of information that can be disclosed. here there will be a lot of negotiation over the scope and extent of executive privilege.

again, this is going to be really tough sailing. as you say, the executive privilege relies with the current holder of that office. not with the former holder. again, there is going to be some discussion about whether privileged communications that occurred during his presidency can be disclosed or may be required to be disclosed. >> money, 30 seconds left here for your answer. the fbi has arrested more than 880 capital rioters. these are folks who just went home thinking nothing was gonna happen to them. and it's sometimes seems like this investigation had been going at a slow pace. it seems very far off. last week we did see the first rioters case to go to a jury. we see a lengthy sentence. if you are representing one of these seditionist, you are not, to be very clear. if you were, what would you be telling your clients right now? with that sentence last week give you? cause >> absolutely. they should be tempering this entire time, expecting without

their return is coming. the justice department has been very clear that they are methodical, they untold hand every -- they intend to hold everybody accountable. separate topic, but with breonna trailer and with everybody who was charged. the manner in which this justice department thoroughly efficiently turns over every rock until justice is done. i have every confidence that they're gonna do that here. all the way up to the top, if they can get there. >> monika pressley melissa murray, thank you very much. after the break, what plans to make the kansas submission writes a playbook for other states? we're also gonna talk with organizers who helped get the vote out for that ballot initiative. that's next, stay with us. y with us. y with us. put it in check with rinvoq, a once-daily pill. when uc got unpredictable,... i got rapid symptom relief with rinvoq. check. when uc held me back... i got lasting, steroid-free remission with rinvoq.

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women make up 52% of the united states electorate? do you also recall when i said that the things could happen if you try to take our rights away? well, i can explain it all in one word, kansas! the state recently asked voters if they wanted to remove the part of the constitution that protected abortion rights. 59% of the voters said no. to be clear, we're talking about kansas. the state that has an elected democrat to the united states senate since the 30s. dorothy hadn't even gone over the rainbow yet, y'all! let's talk to an organizer who helped make it so. alina buckman is the field director for kansans for constitutional freedom. she is here. selina, okay, helena, kansas, they understood their assignment. were you surprised at this overly lopsided victory?

>> thank you for having. may i would say, as lifelong cans in, i'm used to being disappointed. i was surprised. i knew we had a path to victory, but i think the margins and the turnip speak for themselves. it was a decisive victory for kansans writes this year. >> arkansas is not the easiest place to get an initiative on the ballots for folks at home. you just can't get offensive dignitaries like other states. the state legislature is the entity that actually put this on the ballot. so how did you organize people to get out to defeat the amendment? >> so we do not have ballot referendum in the count of kansas. this was put on our primary ballot, which is low turnout election, historically, by the extreme republican legislature. they stacked the deck in order to try to depress turnout and make sure that few kansans vote. we worked really hard. the coalition, which is a broad coalition of reproductive and

civil rights organizations, we were on the ground knocking on doors, making hundreds of thousands of phone calls. we actually were working with groups that exist in our state already and have deep ties to the community. they could be trusted messengers to kansans in every corner of our state, from every age group to talk about what was at stake on the ballot. >> what you did could be a model for other organizers in around the country. i think this is a very sweet victory. the question is, is your job over yet? >> no, absolutely not. our job is not over. we have -- the right to abortion is enshrines in our constitution, voters decided to keep it that way. but the legislature it is extreme, they're not used to being told no by voters. when they are told no by voters they do things anyway. we have judicial retention elections up in november. i think that the next target will be our state supreme court,

which is what's fans the right to abortion in our constitution in 2019 and led to this amendment. it's important that kansans who showed up in this election continue to show up in our communities to make sure that we keep this and we hold the line. >> i hear you telling people to vote. helena buckman, thank you very much for your time today and your work. >> thank you. >> let's take a look at how this fight for women's ability to make decisions about their own bodies is shaping up around the country. to do that let's bring in my friend nancy, she is the president and ceo of the center for reproductive rights. nancy, you heard my conversation with hell enough. what do you think we can or should learn from the folks in kansas? >> well, let's just start with how big and exciting that win in kansas was and if we could just step back a bit, what they were doing was re-and firming a supreme court of kansas

decision at that the center for reproductive rights won in 2019. it said that kansas constitution protects the right to abortion, even more strongly than the federal constitution. the supreme court is based on kansas's history and commitment to natural whites, the constitution. which includes the personal autonomy to make decisions about your own body. the self determination. these are kansas values and the kansas constitution. when we take from this is -- the kansas legislature is doing things that the voters to. what the voters said this week that kansas, we want to, writes we would like to keep them thank you very much. >> and i think it's important to note, kansas has a democratic governor who is key in the makeup of the kansas supreme court. that's another story. we have kansas and then you have indiana.

indiana has a total abortion ban. it's already seeing backlash, pharmaceutical giant, eli lilly, is one of indiana's biggest supporters. it's going to start expanding out of the state. it's gonna hurt indiana and the wallet. it's gonna hurt them when it comes to the workforce. do you think we're going to see this in other states at if similar legislation goes forward? >> i think you are. i think you are. look, what indiana has done, in the teeth of this victory and kansas, is extreme. it is an extreme and radical abortion ban. me the response from the business sector is the right one, which is to say, this is health care. we don't want to see this kind of extremism in the states where we have employees and businesses. >> one of the strategies, nancy, are coming together? what are you doing? what are you asking the white house for? i mean, we had the president

who signed an executive order on wednesday this past week that protect to the right of women to travel to another state for an abortion. there is things percolating on the federal level. what's going on, nancy? you're an organizer? you're an advocate? talk to me. >> again let's remember, this all plays at the feet of the extreme overturning of roe v. wade. we see the federal and the state robust responses from the policy sector, the white house issuing two executive orders the department of justice suing the state of idaho over its abortion ban. we just saw the vote in kansas. michigan has organized itself to have an initiative on the ballot to protect abortion in its state constitution. there will be a defense in kentucky also this fall. you have states california, new york, connecticut, others, lining up to strengthen their

laws and protection. we have lawsuits at the center that other groups have filed to keep a trigger bands of a. every single lever judiciary, legislative branch, they are all stepping forward and the most important thing for each one of your listeners to know is that they need to make their voices heard. >> preach, nancy. we will leave it. there nancy northup, thank you very much. >> when we come back, folks were going to the culture corner. we are getting into some stories about broken hearts, the breakup between kim k and pete. the cancellation of the bat girl movie. after a whole lot of work on it had already been done. stick with us. stick with us.

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celebrity couple broke up because of long distance. i always feel like, is something else going on? they just don't want to say? which is fair. we don't really know why they broke. up but i feel like they were kind of moving fast. so maybe, you know, pete was around her kids he had her name tattooed on him. they were going pretty fast. maybe, just maybe, maybe kim wasn't with. that she is just getting out of a marriage with kanye. she has four kids. i don't know, maybe he was moving too fast. i will say, it doesn't seem messy because she still has him up on instagram. it can't be that messy. but i think we will see on the next season of the kardashians what's really going on. >> people will be on it. i watch it on hulu, sumy, hate me, bite me if you want it. i watch it. i forgot about the tattoo. let me just, say i don't relish anybody's breakup okay. the reality is, it can happen any one of us. i pray to the lord that my man doesn't leave me. i will say, the insiders out

there, they also said that kim and kanye are not getting back together. their divorce is continuing. they are happily co-parenting. how do you -- i'm hold my comments about counted myself, what are your thoughts here? >> here's the thing, some. out first and foremost, we know kris jenner machine works very stealthily and very precisely. that statement has chris jenner written all over it. if you remember, kim was just flying to go see pete while he was shooting a film overseas. i am not buying the whole long distance thing. i think that, you know, to jasmine's point, there might be some underlying factors. we will have to wait to see how it plays out over the show. i'm not buying the long distance thing. we will see how this plays out. >> you're not buying it? okay. i mean, look. people said long distance was tough now! >> that's what the people said! >> y'all are like, no, we're not having. it let's talk about some other heartbreak happening out there.

superhero fans, they are devastated, honey. they are also upset. this is after the news broke that hbo canceled its upcoming bat girl film starring leslie grace and featuring michael keaton's return as batman. jasmine, they did already spend billions of dollars. make it makes sense! >> deep down, i don't know with the issue is. i know reports are saying that people are concerned that it may not live up to the hype. maybe at the end of the day it's a dollars and sense sort of thing. i know on a personal note, you know ladies we've all been in situations where we thought a deal was done. we had disappointment in hollywood in this realm. i feel bad for her, on a personal level. you know it feels when you have something that you think is done, and then all the sudden it just -- the floors pulled under you. i don't know what's really happened, but maybe this is room for something bigger and better for her. >> i, maine i'm disappointed. autumn joy, we were about to

get our first bat girl of color. she did a first interview about how excited she was about the opportunity. are you disappointed we're not gonna see her? >> i'm very disappointed. i did the research on it, it's due to money at the end of the day. they did some kind of leadership shift in corporate whatever, so they're looking for tax breaks. unfortunately bat girl did not make the cut. but yes, simone, i'm always looking forward to whatever they do decide to break the mold in have a black girl in a lead role or bolt that were typically not cast for, if you will. so i'm disappointed. but what i'm wondering is, now that it's pretty much shot, can they shop around to streaming services? can they shop it to peacock? you know, who knows? >> let me tell you, autumn joy. let me tell you. the warnermedia's hbo situation, they said they did not want to spend the money that was necessary, that's what they said. they didn't want to spend the

money that was necessary to bring the awareness of the film to just releases on hbo mapped. they're already over budget because the pandemic. i'm just saying, jasmine's right, the coin make it's a difference here. >> they were like, we're not getting any more of our money. i was looking forward to it, but i will say, we were doing research for this, someone said that the ratings of -- in the test shot, it rated like shoes am. >> that's with the big issue. as they were concerned that it's not gonna live up to its height. that doesn't mean that it wasn't going to, but -- >> who knows, ladies. >> which is sam? okay, let's talk about a black woman in hollywood who is getting her do and whose stuff is coming to a stage near you. i'm talking about the great angelic of ross, the star and tech made. and she will star in roxie heart in the musical chicago on broadway. she's the first trans actress

to make the debut in the role. jasmine, i'm so excited because angelica, she follows a long line of celebrities who star in the long running revival of chicago. what do you expect to see from the other miss ross? >> i love angelica. i think if this goes to and a trans woman actress, she is the one. i love her and pose, american hero story. i think she's a really big advocate for the lgbtq community. if you follow her twitter she's very outspoken. i'm super excited for her. in terms of the role, i took a crash course when i found out what we were talking about on chicago the musical. i learned about her role is about. i feel like she has all the tools. i'm not gonna ruin it for everyone that's going to see it. but that musical is super messy and layers like us all. i can't wait. i feel like she's gonna kill. it she is all the tools messes harry and she has the vocals. i'm super excited to see what she does.

>> this is going to be absolutely amazing. autumn joy, you have 20 seconds. were driven courage of it from miss ross? >> listen, first and foremost, shutout to angelic. ross candy ferocity pose she does what needs to be done. if she brings that same type of je ne sais quoi to the broadway, it's going to be lit. kudos, sis. >> very happy for our cis, autumn joy, jasmine, thank you very much. thank you for watching simone on this sunday, we have a lot of ground to cover and we got. there i'm simone sanders townsend, you can catch me right here on msnbc weekends at 4 pm eastern anytime over our peacock -- new episodes on the msnbc hub every monday and tuesday. please, hit me up on the socials. you can find highlights, exciting things about the show, behind the scenes for the show on instagram, twitter and tiktok. politicsnation with reverend al 's next. 's next.

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