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good evening welcome to politicsnation. tonight's lead breaking news -- fight for the future. right now senate democrats are
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basking in a historic win with a landmark spending bill passing just hours ago. president biden is wasting no time applauding the passage. it may become the largest investment in climate change intervention the nation's ever seen. i'm almost -- has every region of the nation has been baked by extreme heat. the summer many states terrorized by extreme weather disasters that caused billions of dollars and hundreds of lives. coast to coast we are bracing for more as fire season in the western states has opened with more record places well federal scientists warn of an above average and above normal hurricane season. still threatening the east coast. yet for all the unprecedented crime and action promised by the inflation reduction act it
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is still just a step towards a sustainable future. it is moving the country away from fossil fuels and substantially curving the nation's emissions over the next eight years. even with this legislative battle over climate action or is america ready for the changes called for? what about our most vulnerable communities? those already who are susceptible to the kind of economic and public health disruptions promised by unrestrained climate change? big questions about our climate future tonight on politicsnation in a moment we will talk with the perfect guest the administrator of the epa michael -- first let's go to capitol hill where the senate just passed the inflation reduction act earlier this afternoon.
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vice president kamala harris broke the tie passing the bill at 51 to 52 votes for the inflation reduction act, which now heads to the house which it is expected to pass later this week and then will be sent to president joe biden's desk for signature. let's get right to nbc's julia tsirkin on capitol hill. julie, the senate has passed this historic bill with kamala harris who broke the tie. the bill will now go to the house. what can you tell us about what is included in this bill? and what it will mean for the average american watching? >> prevent, i asked harris the exact question. what will this bill that -- investing 300 billion dollars in climate and energy in this country, climbing some loopholes for those who make the most money in this country, large corporations. what will it mean for americans? this will mean the world for americans she says, and people
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in this country who have been looking for legislation to address the problems they face. this bill does a lot for climate. it is the first step, as you mentioned, democrats, like senator bernie sanders are really unhappy that it doesn't go far enough. but with a 50/50 senate as you know well, they need all 50 side decker kratz to get on board to pass anything. that's why we saw some last minute back and forth today to appease senator sinema, changes they needed to make to just get this bill done before they head out of town. it has a methane reduction program which will help farmers and ranchers move to clean energy, giving them credit for doing so. electric vehicle credits are in it as well. it also transitions those who have been used to having cold jobs, especially in west virginia, more cleaner energy jobs. it also makes historic investments in our drug prescription policies as well medicare for the first time is being able to negotiate those prices. they didn't get everything they wanted in the bill, but all in all democrats are happy that we
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it does accomplish all of those things. it is a couple billion for deficit reduction. >> julie, let me ask you this quickly, there is actually a big change to the bill. a $35 a month cap on insulin was killed after all but seven gop senators voted down. what are senators saying about this? this is an important issue for a lot of people. >> it is huge. the cost of insulin rising over the last couple of decades. democrats seeking to address this. they were able to do it but only for seniors who are covered under medicare. they had it for private insurers in their bill as well. or repugnance, as you mentioned, blocked it. including senator collins who was negotiating a bipartisan insulin trap before the spill came to the floor. but, democrats, like senator patty murray, took to the floor calling out republicans for blocking this. this was really their goal.
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they wanted to have this fight on the floor so that it wasn't on them when it came out of the bill. it was on the republicans who ended up blocking this provision. but, still, for over 3 million americans who rely on insulin to help care for their diabetes, this is big. >> thank you, nbc's julia tsirkin on capitol hill. joining me now, environmental protection agency administrator michael regan. administrator reagan we thank you for joining us. before we get into the specifics of the challenges because of the epa and because of climate disruption, i have to ask of course about what appears to be a breakthrough on climate policy in the senate. the inflation reduction act passed, the bill contained the largest federal effort devoted to climate change. nearly 400 billion dollars to
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curb emissions and move away from fossil fuels. as head of our epa, at this point in history,, where does the bill do the most good? >> reverend, thank you for having me. thank you for asking that question. this is historical. this is a big day for our country. this is a big day for the president. when he ran for this seat, the presidency, he said he would bring labor and the justice committee, the business community together to tackle the climate crisis. this investment that we're looking at, the potential investment in the i.r.a. it is the largest investment to tackle the climate crisis united states history. this is a big day for the country. this is a big day highlighting the presidents leadership. this is a big day for epa. >> the entire country has endured successive waves of extreme heat this summer. i myself learned this week that in the last 30 years heat
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deaths have been the single greatest cause of weather related fatalities. i think about with black communities but also native american communities found they have the highest percentage of heat related deaths per group. can you tell us why that is? what is this white house doing to mitigate the effects? >> reverent,, you're absolutely right. let me add a couple of other steps to that. we know that black americans, 34% are more likely to live in communities because of climate change. if we see a two degree increase in temperature, 34% of black americans children will see an increase in asthma. we also know that if we see a 2% increase in temperature, 40% of latinos, hispanic americans are more likely to see labor laws. the heat, the temperature
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climate change all of these things are having a disproportionate impact on communities of color. low income communities and travel communities. we are prepared. we are taking action not only through regulation to mitigate the emissions or the pollution that causes climate change but through adaptation policies. thinking about ways that we can educate our communities we can protect our communities, we can provide direct resources to our communities so that they can take action to protect not only their public health but also make the economic investments in their communities like cooling centers and other places, to reduce the exposure to that. >> the toxic waste, and we've talked about in our communities, you spoke at our last national network conference -- you and i have had a cup of tea since then. you understand in my view this is a civil rights issue. people say to me, you're gonna
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talk about civil rights not the environment. breathing it's civil rights issue if you're in an area where you don't have the equal kinds of environment towards breathing without asthma and other infirmities being at a higher rate in your community. when he last joined us on this show we got into the administration's equity agenda. it impacts your work on environmental justice. i know you just got back from alabama you are in puerto rico. before both trips, part of your journey to justice initiative -- in both cases to address pollution and communities of color. what is the common thread between the two? and one other sites you visited on the tour? >> the common thread is that it's no coincidence that systemic racism has played -- plagued our communities. environmental justice is no
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different. what we have seen is a disproportionate impact to black and brown communities and tribal communities. on the front lines of the threat of pollution and when i'm very proud to say, as part of the inflation production act 60 billion dollars, billion with a b will be dedicated to environmental justice. these are the types of resources that we need to finally bring to communities like puerto rico, like lowndes county, alabama. i was just back in lowndes county, alabama, for the second time. my good friend and secretary of at rick culture, tom bill sack and mick landrieu from the white house, we made a significant announcement. and announcement that provides millions of dollars of technical assistance to these communities, so that they can become -- billion dollars to flow from the federal government, bipartisan infrastructure law
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or the resources that we see from the inflation reduction act. for far too long these communities have been impacted but under this administration, the presidents leadership, we are not only seeing the policies -- i'm not only beefing up enforcement putting regulations in place to protect the most vulnerable but we're actually getting the resources to bring to these committees for once. resources to bring to these c ommittees for once mr. regan, i want to go back to one of the goals of the reconciliation bill. it is to reduce the carbon emissions significantly by the end of the decade to about half of the 2005 levels. given your life's work and current job, i can imagine that you don't think it can be done. i do wonder if you think the american people have been prepared in terms of messaging for what the cleaner future means.
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because it will require federal and individual action. what do you think? >> i'm optimistic. i'm even more optimistic when i get outside and watch washington d.c.. the partisan politics within the beltway relate to constrain what we can do as a country. but as i travel to country, whether it's the east coast, the west coast, the northeast, southeast people are prepared. rev, you know this just as well as anybody, can manatees have had solutions to these problems for decades. it is the federal government, the state government, that have lack the resources into leadership and the willingness to acknowledge that people have been unfairly treated in this country. now, thanks to president biden's leadership we have it. all we have a government that recognizes people are disproportionately impacted, and we have a congress that a president who are acting to provide the resources so we can
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master these solutions. i'm optimistic and i'm gonna keep hitting the road, staying outside of washington, talking with people to be sure that they get these resources. >> we're out of time. but i just want to ask you this, lastly, how is the biden administration working to make sure that black and brown communities are included in the technological progress coming with this push towards clean energy? making sure that we are prepared for the jobs of the future as this nation transforms. >> well, rev, as he saw with a infrastructure law, 40% of those resources will go to the communities that need them to most. those resources are going in the form of cleaner job training economic development, job training. the communities will be an integral part of the future. we are also ensuring that, as we work with the private sector,
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because we've got a lot of probably private partnerships that we are including a diverse workforce, the first training to be sure that we create a rising tide. not just from a pollution production standpoint, but from an economic development, jobs, and economic vitality standpoint as well. this is all hands on deck. this administration is laser focused to ensure that we don't leave anyone behind. >> thank you epa administrator, michael regan. thank you, stay here on msnbc later tonight on american voices with alicia menendez. the guests will be white house national climate adviser, gina mccarthy, to continue this very important conversation about the democrats historic spending deal and how it will effect u.s. environmental policy. coming up next on politicsnation, maryland congresswoman joins us to discuss democrats effort to hold on to the house in the
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midterms. first, my colleague, rachel louis with today's other news stories. richard? >> rev, good sunday to you. president joe biden is actually cleared for travel after the negative covid test. it happened on sunday. he left the white house for delaware this morning for family time. he heads to kentucky tomorrow to see the damage caused by deadly flooding. for ships carrying ukrainian grain left the sea ports today. it's part of a deal to turkey to unblock ukrainians see exports as it continues to resist a russian invasion. dangerously high temperatures gripped the u.s. east coast, heat advisories are in effect in major cities including boston and new york. meteorologists say the heat index could reach 104 degrees monday. more politics nation with reverend al sharpton right after the short break. after the short break. sometimes i'm a homebody. can never have too many pillows. sometimes i'm all business. wooo!
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democrat from maryland. thank you for joining us. >> first, the breaking news. senate democrats climate health care and tax bill having just passed. your reaction what does it mean for baltimore? >> it's a tremendous piece of legislation. it is not build back better but it is groundbreaking because we are able to say to working americans were gonna reduce the cost of prescription drugs. we are gonna negotiate prices on an open market, which is never happened before. the cost of health care under the obama plan, which was going to end the subsidies will now be extended in 2021 in the very least -- there is a cap on insulin for diabetics. unfortunately it does not cover
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private insurers but, for three and a half million americans there on medicare there cause for insulin will be kept at $35. there is in this bill significant efforts to deal with the environment, the air that they breathe, the water that they breathe. on the way that we are using and disposing of. things like, review again, at the very least, if we breathe through the air is not a civil rights matter at on what can be. particularly given the increasing amount of cancer that we see all over our society as a result of carcinogens because of the carbon footprint that is way out of place and in terms of where it should be. that will be reduced by 40% by the end of this decade. as you pointed, out there are a number of things. i was really glad to hear the remarks of the epa director on the provisions and things that they are undertaking. this bill also does a number of other things. it takes corporations who may go over a billion dollars and for the first time put on a
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mandatory tax rate of 15%. if every day people have to pay taxes, there is no reason why those corporations should not. it's probably why the other side of the aisle thought it was so long we. it's groundbreaking in many respects. it's coming to session. we will get people to vote on it, finalize it, and then extend it to the presidents desk for signature. >> congressman, let me go to another subject. you know i've been very vocal from the beginning about the case of britney griner. you've become one of britney griner's biggest advocates in congress throughout her detention. as of last week conviction for cannabis possession in russia earlier this year. griner is now facing nine years in prison. both russia and the u.s. have signaled openness to prison swap that would bring griner
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home as well as probably paul whelan. again we've been back and forth. i've tried a clergy visit you've taken a strong stance. are you optimistic about a swap that could lead to brittani's release? >> i'm cautiously optimistic. i would be remiss if i did not thank you for your public support of this. in the early days when it first broke people weren't saying anything because the word was the less said the better things. are we realized that's not true. the more said the more opportunities there are to get miss griner home. i'm cautiously optimistic. let me just explain why. putin is a great chess player. he realized that this was an issue here in this country. instead of a one for one he is looking to find others that he can put into that deal. it will sweeten the deal and then cause the swap to take place.
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victor fount is a merchant of death as he is known. he has a gun runner. has been arrested and locked up for some time. it is clear that putin wants him back on russian soil. miss griner along with paul whelan another american who has been locked up since 2020, are both as we know it in detention. the question becomes, is it a one for one? two for one? for his attitude for to swap? i think putin would prefer a two for two swipe. there's a lot of talk about a russian who is in jail in germany, which has nothing to do with the u.s., about adding that to the situation. what we hear coming out of putin's mouth and his foreign minister has to be taken with a grain of salt. it is primarily for domestic consumption in russia. we know that there are back channels that have been open for three and a half weeks. discussions are taking place. my assumption is it will culminate and --
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it will result in them being free. part of the problem i think the president faces is that people, for the most part, don't want person swaps. we had a situation where that's never the case. but even foreign secretaries of this country have said over and over again foreign relations secretary's have said that there comes a time when these things are necessary. this is one of those times. i was listening to bill richardson the other day who has for some time contributed to this area of foreign relations. who by the way is someone who does not favor the swaps. he said even he realizes that now this is a time to do it. we've got to get miss griner home. we've got to be very careful for people traveling abroad particularly traveling in russia because my sense is that they're going to try to grab more americans like they are doing in afghanistan in venezuela some of these other places. and it seems to me that it is
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so agree just that we don't even have athletics now above the global politics because britney griner, for seven years, was working on a russian basketball team when she was off-season here in the united states. and it was -- in fact, some of her teammates and her former coach testified for her in russian court. it seems that we could not -- it is odd that that is the case. let me go to another subject. what do you take from all the trump backed candidates that prevailed in republican primaries last week? what party gets helped or hurt in november by this? >> we are dealing with three parties now, the democratic party, the old republican party, and the make america great again party, which seems to have more and more influence and has really divided republicans almost right down the middle. donald trump endorsed 57 non
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incumbents in this last round of elections. 57. and in doing that, he came away with 33 winners and nine losers. his mark is at 78%. that is how effective he is in the maga people are. the problem aaron though, is that these are primaries. there is a bigger picture when you go into a general, you can't just campaign from the far left or far-right. you have a government and you campaign from the middle. that is probably where we will see a correction of that number. having said that, 78% of donald trump's candidates being elected over the past couple of bull of months is unbelievable and a country that really has seen donald trump for who he is and, quite frankly, has seen many republicans for who they are. unfortunately, we need to work very hard here in this upcoming general election, which is about 94, 93 days away. otherwise, a low voter turnout
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will doom the democratic party and republicans are energized. particularly the maga republicans. they sense victory. it's kind of like the tea party of a decade or so ago. they will turn out in large numbers. the only way to thwart that is to stand right on the -- and turn out and vote. >> let me ask you this. having -- now a member of congress -- with less than 100 days to go before the midterm election, really, i wanted to ask you this based on what you just said. do you feel democrats are doing enough to re-engage black voters, who may have lost faith in the party and the biden administration over the last two years? >> i think up to this point, the answer may have been, we could've done more or democrats could have done more or somebody else could have done more.
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at this particular point, when i'm seeing from around the country, it's an effort to not take this for granted and definitely not to take the larger black or latino communities for granted. not that they were, but in these instances, people need you to communicate to them, this is what i'm doing for you, this is what i will do for you, this is what i have done for you and this is why we are in this together. it needs to be a clear message that connects with people. and that is the way it is. nobody will come out and vote because me or someone else has -- they need to believe they are voting for something or against something. and there is a lot to vote for, particularly when you look at donald trump blooming asked the next candidate. >> thank you, congressman. always good to have you. next, it's time to rise up and take the fight for abortion rights to the states. stay tuned. helps reduce your background noise.
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just over an hour ago, senate democrats passed a big climate health care and tax package. what will this mean for voters? let's get to my political panel to weigh in. joining me now is former democratic senator doug jones of alabama. and former republican representative david -- of florida. welcome to both of you. let me go to you first, david. president biden has had a long list of legislative wins during his first two years in office, which include his infrastructure bill, covid relief package, and a supreme court justice appointment. in spite of the successes, many americans remain very worried about the economy and inflation. how do you see the passage of this democratic spending bill affecting the narrative surrounding democrats
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effectiveness in washington? is it enough to change some minds ahead of the midterms in your opinion? >> yeah, that is great contact. because president biden, democrats have had a great week, much less a great month. but you will very likely not see the immediate impact on the economy and on voters actual way of life between now and november for what they did. but what they did is actually deliver on the values that democrats want to contrast with republicans. in the bill that was passed today, there wasn't enormous investment in climate. he gave the government the ability to negotiate prescription drug prices. and no more billionaires -- those are democratic values. i think when it merits is joe biden doing something he doesn't often do, which is take a public victory lap and get in front of the american people and say, this is where we stand for us democrats. republicans do not. it might not be enough to change the economy by november. it probably is not. but that doesn't mean you can't
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showcase the leadership of values that today's democrats are putting in front of the american people. >> a lot of the key components of biden's build back better plan is not in the democrats agenda bill that just passed in the senate, such as universal pre-k, parental leave, expanded child tax credit. is that a mistake in your judgment? >> no, not at all. i think david is right about this. it helps the president talk about the agenda. look, we all know democracy is not perfect. democracy is not going to give you every item that you want. i think what is so significant about this bill and what has been happening over the past several months, you have seen the democrats all come together and coalesce around -- that is what this is. they are coalescing around things, getting certain things done. understanding that they can't get it all done. and i think that is a really
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important thing going into the midterms. the contrast, as david said, it's important. one of those contrasts is the fact that democrats can deliver on things republicans have not provided -- what they will do on climate, and democrats are not only now showcasing their values, they are saying that even now as -- we can get things done. and that is what the american people want. they want to know that people are out there, working for them and fighting for them. >> david, you along with former new jersey governor kristen -- and former democratic candidate -- recently announced you are launching a new political party call the forward party. i would like to hear your pitch for the new third-party. but in particular, what do you think it will offer voters like black voters, who don't always feel valued by the democratic
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party and are put off by racist politics of the republicans? >> thank you for that. it is a response to 40% of the country that today still says, i can't see my politics in either major party. and so, we did something very different. we brought together left, right, and middle to form basically a new kind of political party. a new type of political coalition. and is a coalition that actually celebrates independent thought, celebrates the diversity of our communities and says, you know what? instead of a party that from the top down says, you must believe these things to be a part of our coalition, what it says is, let's come together around basic principles of economic opportunity, personal liberty and defense of democracy, and then you exercise those politics that reflect your community best. frankly, it's the notion of pluralism upon which the nation was founded. i will say this because i know a lot of people freak out when they hear about a third party, please don't conflated with a
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third run for the presidency in 2024. well governor whitman and andrew and myself did was try to lay the framework for a viable, durable, third party to run candidates from judges, to clerics -- the law does not permit a party to start today and run -- >> let's turn to former president donald trump, who spoke for two hours at cpac last night about homeless and can't minutes and death sentences for drug dealers. he handed yet again at another bid for the white house. 69% of attendees chose trump in a straw poll as their preferred candidate, edging out ron desantis at 24%. we have seen many republican candidates when primaries by continuing to embrace trump. what influence do you think he is having on the midterms
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overall? >> i think he is having a tremendous influence on the midterms. in the republican party, you only need to look and see what's happening in pennsylvania, arizona, other places in the country. look, cpac is not mainstream republicans. it is the maga faction. -- donald trump got 69% of the vote -- we spoke for two hours, but like every trump speech, he didn't say anything. he just spoke to resentment and fear. -- their other top speaker was -- and autocrat, a racist -- and that is unfortunately the sad state of affairs for cpac. i think what we are going to see in the future is trump's still going to have an impact in that republican party until enough people come out and not
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only push back, but condemn his actions. every republican member of congress, every republican candidate, ought to be asked the question, did donald trump engage in contact that was a supreme dereliction of his duty as president on and before and right after january 6th? everyone ought to be put on the spot by that. and let's get this out in the open. if there's going to be a referendum on trump, so be it. let it be. i think democrats would welcome. that >> david, your thoughts on the trump factor in the midterms? >> it's a big question. will he run or not. i think he will. i think what is different where we are right now than where we were six months ago is if donald trump -- if we were talking about him running, it likely would've been a field of one. i now think if he runs, there will be other republicans. i think ron desantis rounds regardless of what donald trump says. it is not to contest donald trump. he will probably say, i support
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the president and if voters choose him, he has my support. i think you will see asa hutchinson and some others begin to nibble on -- i think this could be a crowded republican race. it is still donald trump to lose. but he very well might lose it. >> all right, former senator doug jones and former congressman david -- thank you both. up next, my final thoughts.
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it is good that we saw the senate passed that bill today that will deal with inflation and climate change and that we are making sure it goes into areas that needed the most once the house passes it. it is good to see that expectations -- was over done in terms of, we achieved more than expectations.
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in the jobs that were created over the last month, when we saw the jobs numbers this week released on what happened in july and the economy was stronger than predicted -- yes, it was great to see progress in the breonna taylor case in which the federal government came in and indicted four of the officer surrounding her killing, her murder, in louisville, kentucky, as they come in on ahmed arbery's case as they come in on the case of george floyd. you see the justice department finally working towards civil rights. but that does not mean we should relax. we need to keep going and we need to say, wait a minute. these victories only will matter if we sustain them and a vote in november and they are chipping away at voting rights. that's why i'm staying on the issues. i'm staying going forward, full
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american voices with alicia menendez starts right now. >> thank you so much, reverend sharpton. and hello everyone. we begin this hour with a big breaking news on capitol hill. the senate a short time ago, scoring a major legislative win for the biden agenda. >> the -- the senate being equally divided, vice president votes in the affirmative and the bill, as amended, is passed. [applause] >> senate democrats without any help from our politicians, passing the inflation reduction act as the laws name suggests, the i.r.a. helps ease inflation, lower prescription drug costs -- and reduces the deficit. it includes the nation's largest investment in the fight against climate change, devoting 369 billion dollars to help save our planet. here is senate majority leader