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hell of a lot more bills. >> we'll sort through the republican's successful removal of a proposed $35 cap on insulin in the private market. and president biden and the first lady are in eastern kentucky surveying the damage from last week's floods. we'll have live coverage. and there are renewed concerns either potential nuclear catastrophe for ukraine and europe after weekend shelling near europe's largest nuclear plant in ukraine with the international atomic energy agency sounding the alarm of the very real risk of a nuclear disaster. we begin with ali vitale and jillian tet.

11:29 p.m. saturday night they finished after 4:00 sunday afternoon. >> reporter: this whole process from the time they started with the motion to proceed vote on saturday until the moment they passed it on sunday was about 22 hours continuously of work in the senate. this is a building that's rarely working on the weekends and certainly not stretching for 22 hours at a time. but that's what it took to get this done. democrats laid out that mile marker that they wanted to pass this sweeping legislation before the august recess. it's going to require the house to do something similar. they're going to come back friday to do their part in passing this legislation. then it goes to president biden's desk. this marks a really signature achievement for democrats on both sides of pennsylvania avenue. we talked through the multiple

iterations this package went through starting about this time last year, part of the build back better agenda. at that point, some estimations of what democrats wanted to put in this reconciliation bill was as high as 6$6 trillion. we now see this bill whittled down to where it is, which is about 430 billion in spending. that insulin provision caps the price of insulin at $35 but does not cap it for people on private insurance. that is something republicans stripped out of the bill. then, of course, there are the deficit cutting provisions.

about 300 billion according to somewhat old estimates. this is something that democrats are now touting as anti-inflationary, but also spending on their priorities. of course, republicans, on the other hand, eager to attack them on this saying they are spending at a moment of inflation and economic uncertainty. >> the very last minute, only hours before final passage, kyrsten sinema signed on saturday, but then she backed by a number of senate colleagues including some democrats went for chipping out the 15% minimum corporate tax on hedge funds. the argument coming from the

arizona chamber of commerce was it would be passed onto small businesses that the these hedge funds own. the strong pushback was the finance committee had fixed that and made sure it would be the lead partners in these hedge funds that would pay out of their own income tax rather than any of the small businesses, that the small businesses were completely protected from that impact. she went forward together with john thune and some republicans and democrats from some states and they did that. they had to crash a fix to come up with the alleged pay fors. >> this political sausage making looks grubby when you see what

was held over her head to get her to insist on this carveout. this is the kind of thing that makes voters disgusted with washington and can only conclude there's a lot of donations coming from the private equity sector. yes, it is pretty grubby. the big picture as far as the white house is concerned that they got the bill through. there's a terrible irony about this bill in that it's called the inflation reduction act. the reality is that inflation probably will fall in the coming months which will be good for the white house, but not really because of anything that's in this bill. this bill is primarily about thoroughly sensible measures to do things like introduce more green reforms into america, which many democrats support. but aside from the medicare and the health care issues, it doesn't really do that much directly to attack inflation.

that's more the federal reserve's task right now. the reality is inflation is likely to drop in a few months and that's good for the white house as well. >> briefly, ali, one reason why it won't attack inflation more broadly is that it will only hit those drug prices for seniors and medicare because that was also stripped out of the private insurance market that affects people not on medicare. that was a big piece of it and a big cost benefit in the semifinal bill but at the end they were going to have to raise the money else where. >> reporter: in terms of these provisions, a lot of them had to be targeted. that was the whole point of these negotiations between manchin and schumer. democrats will tell you most of them wanted more than what they

got, but they're happy they did it anyway and they want to take the win here. >> that's the bottom line. thank you. joining us now is maryland democratic senator chris van hollen. thank you for being with us on a monday, earlier than you might expect to be. >> great to be with you. >> glad to see you healthy. i know you've had a rough summer. >> thank you. >> i want to begin with this bill. if it's signed into law, it's going to help americans in the short-term. i think it is a misnomer to call it the inflation bill, which it really isn't.

a long time columnist has a big piece in the "washington post" saying this is not going to help inflation, but it does a lot of other good things. i think politically for you guys, climate might be the best thing you can advertise to younger voters. >> yes. lots of things contribute to the fight against inflation. obviously the federal reserve is on the front lines. economists like former secretary treasury larry summers who mitch mcconnell has been fond of quoting lately has argued -- and i agree -- that because of the deficit cutting provisions in this bill, it will also put downward pressure on inflation. the big accomplishments here in my view are, number one, finally allowing medicare to negotiate the price of drugs in that program and driving down the price to seniors, extending premium supports for millions on

the affordable care act so they won't have to be paying more next year. and the investment in climate initiatives, which will have important pocketbook impacts, helping consumers lower the cost of heating and cooling by making homes more energy efficient and reducing the emission of greenhouse gasses, which are choking us and the planet. >> of course, senator kyrsten sinema, this hedge fund carveout, how do you justify that? she certainly holds the cards. any one senator in a 50/50 senate holds the cards. it was late in the day on sunday when they had to scramble for a fix to make it all still hang together. >> as you know, i supported closing the carried interest loophole, which benefits hedge fund managers.

i also opposed the provision that would help the private equity funds that own majority stakes in certain businesses. the bottom line is we got this done. would i have liked to have closed those tax loopholes as well? you bet i would have. but the big picture is we got it done. it will reduce the deficit. we came up with alternative tax measures and we are closing a lot of tax breaks for very wealthy corporations and others, including that 15% minimum tax on corporations, some of which were paying zero income tax in the united states. we also empowered the irs to go after wealthy tax cheats so that we collect taxes that are already due and owing from very wealthy people who try to hide their income and not contribute

to the country. again, a big day on the climate front, on the health care front and on the tax reform front. >> just quickly putting on your foreign relations experience, let me ask about china. china today extended beyond what it initially threatened to do in terms of their live fire exercises. they may not be using live artillery firing anymore, but they've still got virtually a naval blockade going. how worrying is this? >> i think this is a manufactured crisis by president xi in response to speaker pelosi's visit. we've had many other delegations, speakers of the house have visited taiwan before. as you know, president xi is preparing for his upcoming party congress this fall where he's

seeking an unprecedented third term. i think this kind of saber rattling and chest thumping ahead of that party congress he believes serves his political interest there. but it's important that china deescalate. it's important that the united states be firm. we are not changing our policy. speaker pelosi was not trying to change our one china policy, but she was -- and we all underscore the fact that we oppose any effort by china to reunite taiwan by force, by violence. >> plan the iea says was at rik was the russians controlling it because they can't get in to have inspections. >> that's exactly right.

we're many months now into putin's brutal war against ukraine. this treatment of the nuclear plant there just shows how reckless he's prepared to be, endangering people in ukraine not just through his direct military actions but endangering people in that region and around the world with the possible meltdown of a nuclear plant. russia, of course, experienced chernobyl. they should understand the costs and risks to the world. >> this is many times the size of chernobyl. thank you very much, senator van hollen. hope you get some rest of this weekend. >> will do. the abortion ban, indiana ending legal abortions with only very limited exceptions despite objections from some republicans and a major home state employer. that's next. ublicans and a major home state employer. that's next.

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. indiana is now the first state to pass a near total abortion ban in the wake of roe v wade being overturned by the supreme court. the new law, which goes into effect september 15th, has already spurred protests at the state house. major employer eli lily is condemning the law. joining me is an indiana abortion provider and a member of the committee to protect reproductive freedom task force. and barbara mcquade. dr. shaw, you provide care in indiana, also in new york. what differences are you already seeing between those two states? it looks to me as though it would be a perfect test case, although the law is not quite into effect yet in indiana. >> i am primarily based in new

york. i'm the chief medical officer of planned parenthood here in new york state. i also fly to indiana monthly to provide abortion care. the difference is in the way in which i deliver abortion care are vast. there's a waiting period in indiana of 18 hours. there is a requirement that we provide a mandatory ultrasound, that we provide a picture, a copy of the picture to the patient whether they want it or not. there's an insurance ban preventing patients from using their medicaid or their commercial insurance to pay for the abortion. the differences are huge and prevent access already. so what's happening with this ban is truly devastating. indiana is positioned in the country, you know, it's already providing care to folks in the

midwest, in the south. now patients not only in indiana but in regions surrounding indiana won't have access to abortion care. it's not the will of the people. it's not the will of folks in indiana. 71% of folks in indiana support access to abortion care. so what's happening is truly devastating. >> the governor signed that within minutes of its passage, apparently didn't let any type elapse. it was in indiana that the 10-year-old rape victim went to get her procedure. it occurs to me that requiring someone to have a picture of the ultrasound, i know what it's meant to do. it's meant to have psychological impact on the woman to see how

large the fetus is, but also can reveal gender, which many people don't want to know. there are so many invasive privacy issues here as well. talk to me about the law itself. >> so this law gets passed in the wake of dobbs, which of course removed the constitutional protection of the right to an abortion which was grounded in these privacy laws. we're seeing this activity all over the country. i think we are likely to see lawsuits challenging the statute. we could even see ones that mirror the one filed by the justice department last week against an idaho statute that made it a crime to provide abortion services. there's a collision here between state law and federal law. in idaho there is a collision between their ban on abortion and the federal law that requires emergency rooms to

provide stabilizing health care to any presenting patient, including patients who are pregnant. the indiana law has a little more leeway, it says abortions are permissible to save the life of the mother or to address a serious health risk. one harm of a statute like this is it creates a chilling effect on providers. when the law lacks clarity, people aren't going to err on the side of exposing themselves to criminal prosecution, even if that means their patients are going to suffer in the meantime. >> dr. shaw, one of the issues is how do you define preserving the life of the mother because often you see an elevation in blood pressure which can be life threatening but not immediately. how does the doctor determine how to do that if that doctor is concerned about the legal implication?

>> that's an excellent question. as a physician, as someone who is trained to take care of patients, i know exactly what my patients need and what it takes to ensure they have a safe and healthy pregnancy. it's when politicians interfere with my ability to practice medicine that adds to this layer of fearing for losing my medical license and the criminalization. barbara brings up the point that it prevents us and gives a pause from doing what we know how to do, which is practice medicine and take care of our patients, as we took an oath to do. >> thank you so much for being with us. a ballot boost from democrats' legislative win this weekend, helping them hold off a republican takeover of congress, next. a republican takeover of congress, next

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votes. but would it change their chances in the midterms despite the president's historically low polling and the lessons of history, only twice has this been reversed in 100 years. joining me now michael steel, ashley parker and dave watson. ashley, the democrats' big accomplishments include the chips, the semiconductor bill, bipartisan gun legislation, covid-19 relief. they still have a very unpopular president in a midterm year and midterms are historically bad for the incumbents. they have a very thin margin in the house and no margin at all in the senate. what do you see as their rene ed chances perhaps because of the abortion vote in kansas and this, a better record of achievement? >> that's correct. it's a fantastic list of recent

achievements for this president, especially when you take into account it was done with a 50/50 senate and an incredibly narrow margin in the house. president biden was asked just this morning if he thinks this will help in the midterms and he says yes, he absolutely thinks it will. he also acknowledged the reality that some of this stuff that has recently been passed will take a little while to kick in. you may not see results before the midterms. the just in talking to people inside the white house and other democrats, this is good for the administration. they would rather have these achievements than not have them, but they are still facing in some ways an uphill climb, including the inflation reduction act will not necessarily and certainly not immediately reduce inflation, which all along they have said is the biggest issue facing them in the midterms politically. >> and let's talk about some of

these key races. the big picture is, yes, the kansas abortion vote was a much bigger margin than anyone expected from red kansas. obviously republicans voting to preserve abortion rights as well as independents. >> the key number there is 28%. that's the number of trump voters in the 2020 election who at least leaned pro choice on apportion. it's not surprising that in these red states we are seeing pro-choice trump voters show up in these refrenda. >> it's a candidate. they can still be voting for abortion even if it's a referendum on the ballot and still vote for republican candidates. >> i think the best test we have coming up are going to be in special elections in trump-won

districts. we have a special election coming up tomorrow in minnesota's first district, we have one in new york's 19th district on august 23rd. the question isn't whether democrats win these necessarily. it's do they hit biden's number or even exceed it. that would be a sign democrats are benefitting from a triple boost of dobbs, better news about congress's productivity perhaps sending democratic enthusiasm a little bit higher. then also, of course, gas prices coming down take a little bit of a bite out of republican's inflation attack. voters are still very concerned. the president is still quite unpopular. keep in mind that the component of biden's 40% approval rating has been democratic voters disapproving of him because they believe not enough is getting done in washington. do the last few weeks change that in democrats' eyes and

start closing that enthusiasm gap? and even more, does it change how independent voters view the president? i think these upcoming races in minnesota, alaska, where sarah palin is on the ballot, and also in new york will give us clues. >> one of the problems democrats have had is that the democratic party completely divided and a lot of incoming from the left against any kind of middle of the road decisions. i say talking points that came indirectly sent out by the progressive caucus, authored by the jayapal staff. that was to tell progressives to get in line and here's why we like it. forget about those last cave-ins

from kyrsten sinema to the hedge fund people. is that a big boost? >> it's a huge boost. if the democrats can actually take themselves out of the circular firing squad and focus on getting this piece through the house and then hitting the road and selling that message, yeah, this could create a lot of energy for them going into the fall. the reality is, they're beginning to realize in circles around washington and inside the democratic party that this historic trend line is not something that's absolute. it can be beaten because of these other environmental issues, if you will, that have arisen, not just the environment legislation, but abortion has

changed the political environment. the economy with the jobs numbers and certainly with gas prices coming down have changed the fiscal environment. so the political environment as a whole is beginning to reshape itself in such a way that if they're tactical and their messaging is tight, they can create some advantages going into november particularly in those 34 tossup districts that are out there. they could get some wins. >> i want to play something from "meet the press" that nancy may from south carolina said. she's been wavering back and forth vis-a-vis trump in the last couple of years. here's what she said about abortion. she seemed to be taking a far more centrist view about what should be a proper restriction rather than a total ban. >> handmaid's tale is not

supposed to be a road map. this is a place where we can be in the center. we can protect life and we can protect where people on both sides of the aisle. i have 100% pro-life voting record. i do think it will be an issue in november if we're not moderating ourself, that we're including exceptions where women have been raped and certainly where the life of the mother is at stake. >> so she would provide more exceptions for more hard line anti-apportion advocates. >> a number of republicans would. you're seeing them talk about this way not just politically. former vice president mike pence said he would provide exceptions for rape, insist and the life of the mother. you have people who are

anti-abortion who believe in some exceptions. now that supreme court ruling has come down and this is getting adjudicated in the states, you are going to see people navigating those shades of gray. grappling with something now real and not politically popular in the way she earlier might have assumed for her party. >> thanks to all of you. right now, president biden is in kentucky. he and the first lady joining the state as the state is mourning 37 lives lost in kentucky's worst flood of all time. here they are surveying some of the damage with governor andy baa sheer moments ago. kathy parker is reporting live

from lost creek, kentucky. how are people there feeling about the president's visit? it's notable that mitch mcconnell has not been back to the disaster zone in the week since it happened. this is not when those key votes were happening. this was earlier in the week and last weekend. >> reporter: yeah. based on some of the conversations we've had so far here on the ground, many residents say they welcome the president's visit, and regardless of political affiliation, they say this is going to put a spotlight on the problem here that they are facing. the road to recovery is going to be a long one. it's going to take months, if not years, to recover. the damage is extensive. it spans roughly 12 counties. they are hopeful with the president and first lady here on

the ground, this will shed more light on the devastation left behind by the historic flooding and also spur the effort to get more funding into this region and to the victims. >> we may be hearing from the president. they've had some technical problems getting information and video out. we'll be coming back to you if anything else develops in the next 20 minutes. thank you. and red flag, fears of a nuclear accident at europe's largest nuclear plant located in ukraine, now held by russians who surrounded it with land mines. o surrounded it with land mines. that's right, robert. and it's never too early to learn you could save with america's number one motorcycle insurer. that's right, jamie. but it's not just about savings. it's about the friends we make along the way. you said it, flo. and don't forget to floss before you brush.

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nuclear power plant in ukraine are raising fears of a cat tas trophy. the plant has been under russian control since march. russia is releasing this video reported to show damage inflicted by ukraine. the head of the atomic energy council saying every principle of nuclear safety has been violated. joe, this is obviously volatile. so how do we know what's going on? the inspectors say they can't get in because it's under fire. the russians say they've mined it. what is the chance that nuclear material could be released? >> well, that's the first risk

that you have, is that we don't know what's going on in the plant. this is what the director warns about. we don't have secure communications, we don't have secure power. the staff is operating at gunpoint. of course, now we have shelling in and around the facility risking the structural integrity of the facility itself. the kind of disaster that you worry about is a shell piercing some of the concrete containment facilities, either of the six reactors at the plant, two known to be operating, or the storage for the spent fuel, either one of which would release clouds of radioactive material into the air. we're not looking at an explosion, but a major release of contamination. >> of course, russia is blaming ukraine for the rocket attacks.

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albuquerque's muslim community is on edge after a series of murders. four muslim men have been shot and killed in the community with police now investigating whether the taets are connected, if the men died at hands of a possible serial killer. police are now appealing to the public for help, including for locating this vehicle of interest spotted there in that picture. what is the latest?

am i correct that 3 out of 4 muslim men had the same last name as hew sane? >> reporter: that is correct. they have that same last name. those are the three that died in the last two weeks, so the latest from authorities is that photo that you shared is the volkswagen sedan. they are asking people to share information regard vehicle. there's some marks on the rims, trying to get as much information as they can. at this point, the fbi is work ing with albuquerque police and state officials to try to get more information from members of the community. you showed the photo of the four men. when you look at albuquerque, you have about half a million people in this city. less than 1% of them are part of this muslim community. that's why they aren on high alert and that's why authorities have gotten involved to try to find out what's happening. there's also a reward that has gone up to $30,000 for any

information that could lead to the arrest and conviction of the person or persons responsible for the deaths of these men taking place here in albuquerque, new mexico. >> thank you. and we have some terrible breaking news. the bst-selling author david mccullough has died. the presidential medal of freedom recipient. known later in life for narrating award-winning documentaries. a great personal hero. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." chris jansing starts right after this. chris jansing starts right after this

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good afternoon, everyone. i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. and today we're watching a tale of two parties heading into different directions. as we speak, democrats are on the verge of landing that huge and hugely unexpected legislative win. the major climate change and health care bill. it passed the senate sunday with the vice president breaking a 50/50 tie. >> at last we have arrived and we are elated. every member of of my caucus is elated about what happened